| [00:23] <mxiia> have I been banned in #ubuntu, if so why? | |
| [00:23] <LjL> yes, you have. let me check on the "why" part | |
| [00:24] <PriceChild> LjL: spam. | |
| [00:24] <LjL> that's... correct! though you win no prize. | |
| [00:25] <mxiia> oh... when do i get unbanned... I dont remember spamming | |
| [00:25] <LjL> mxiia, saying "SPAM" three times in a row isn't a very subtle way to spam | |
| [00:25] <mxiia> ? | |
| [00:25] <LjL> mxiia, did you check the fine print in Mibbit, which said you're *not* anonymous? | |
| [00:25] <mxiia> yea... | |
| [00:25] <mxiia> prolly was my sister on my account, though not blaming others.. | |
| [00:26] <LjL> 2008-10-12T19:40:29 <MXII4> SPAM | |
| [00:26] <LjL> 2008-10-12T19:40:31 <MXII4> SPAM | |
| [00:26] <LjL> 2008-10-12T19:40:32 <MXII4> SPAM | |
| [00:26] <mxiia> yea | |
| [00:26] <mxiia> <_< | |
| [00:26] <mneptok> this is why screensavers have passwords, son | |
| [00:27] <PriceChild> mxiia: You are responsible for the connections you make. | |
| [00:27] <mxiia> Yes, i know, how long am I banned? | |
| [00:27] <PriceChild> Mimi: outbri: Can I help either of you? | |
| [00:28] <LjL> mxiia: you or your sister joined, then after being banned, attempted to join again for 2 hours. for some reason that seems to me uncomfortably much to believe it was an accident | |
| [00:28] <outbri> Wow, this channel gets quite a bit of attention. ;) No, I just heard about the channel in a reply to mxii #ubuntu and thought I'd check it out. | |
| [00:29] <PriceChild> outbri: could you reword that last bit please, I didn't quite understand. | |
| [00:29] <outbri> In a reply to mxii *in* the #ubuntu channel. | |
| [00:30] <LjL> #ubuntu+1, even | |
| [00:30] <outbri> Err, yeah. In other words, you don't have to waste any time on me, I didn't need anything. | |
| [00:31] <LjL> outbri: ok, but we'd prefer this channels' discussion to remain private between the ops and the people involved | |
| [00:32] <outbri> Sounds good to me, even if it is 50 ops to each person. :P | |
| [00:32] <outbri> Cya. | |
| [01:43] <LjL> if you have someone in -proxy-users who you feel comfortable joining #ubuntu, you can "exempt nick!ident@host" in -ops-monitor from now on | |
| [01:43] <LjL> an exempt will be added by the bots, and removed when the user parts or is kicked (just like with mibbit) | |
| [01:45] <nalioth> excellent :) grazi, LjL | |
| [01:46] <LjL> grazie* ;) | |
| [01:49] <PriceChild> automatic mibbit one still done? | |
| [01:53] <LjL> sure PriceChild | |
| [01:53] <LjL> unless i've introduced bugs in the process, but i checked briefly and it still worked | |
| [01:53] <LjL> on the other hand | |
| [01:54] <LjL> after today's quite unpleasant flood that the floodbots managed to do almost nothing about | |
| [01:56] <LjL> i've tightened the flood triggers a little | |
| [01:56] <LjL> that means, however, that if a bot gets very lagged, it *could* go berserk and set +rR without any actual attack | |
| [01:56] <LjL> hope it never happens but if it does well, let me know | |
| [02:06] <ubottu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | |
| [02:06] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | |
| [02:06] <ubottu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | |
| [02:06] <PriceChild> fail | |
| [02:11] <LjL> uh... | |
| [02:11] <LjL> PriceChild: didn't fail, that was someone testing the bots | |
| [02:11] <PriceChild> sorry, i was thinking the evil person was failing | |
| [02:11] <LjL> PriceChild: look at "Expl0ited" | |
| [02:12] <PriceChild> hmm? | |
| [02:12] <LjL> (also, the exploitER had an unaffiliated cloak, by the way) | |
| [02:13] <LjL> PriceChild: well, it's weird that someone whose nickname is "Expl0ited" would fall victim of an exploit... no? | |
| [02:14] <LjL> might just be me being overly suspicious of course. | |
| [02:14] <PriceChild> very odd | |
| [03:01] <StonewallJackson> I am stonewall Jackson | |
| [03:11] <StoneWallJackson> I am StoneWallJackson | |
| [08:43] <jussi01> Morning all! | |
| [08:43] <jussi01> hrm... Stonewall jackson... right... | |
| [08:47] <Flannel> Howdy jussi01 | |
| [08:48] <jussi01> Morning flannel | |
| [09:17] <Flannel> I can't decide whether A|}EEL is trying to cause problems, or just... being himself | |
| === elky_work is now known as elky | |
| === elky is now known as elky_work | |
| === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL | |
| [14:04] <Tm_T> hi LjL && Mez | |
| [14:05] <LjL> hi | |
| [14:25] <Mez> hey Tm_T | |
| [14:25] * Mez wonders why the < and > round a user are now unreadable | |
| [14:31] <jdong> <><><><><><><><><<><><><><><><><><><><> | |
| [14:31] <jdong> Mez: did you switch from a black to white terminal or vice-versa and forget to update your theme? :) | |
| [14:32] <Mez> nope... still same theme, same terminal | |
| [14:32] <Mez> it's just the ones around nicks are purple, and hard to see, they werent earlier | |
| [14:33] <Mez> infact, It's still the same session as when they were visible | |
| [14:36] * jdong blames it on compiz. | |
| [14:36] * Mez doesnt use compiz | |
| [14:41] <Mez> what happened to Myrtti? | |
| [14:43] <Tm_T> Mez: he's on duty elsewhere | |
| [14:43] <Mez> he? | |
| [14:43] <Tm_T> she, bah | |
| [14:43] <Tm_T> whatever | |
| [14:43] <Mez> "on duty"? | |
| [14:44] <Tm_T> dunno details | |
| [14:44] * Mez sends an SMS | |
| [14:44] <Tm_T> I hope he can receive one, as she stated that he cannot take calls | |
| [14:45] <Tm_T> she | |
| [14:45] <Tm_T> bah, she's more he than I am | |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | |
| [14:47] <Pici> o.O | |
| [16:10] <LjL> !version | |
| [16:10] <ubottu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -rc » in a !shell | |
| [16:10] <LjL> !no version is <reply> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -dc » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | |
| [16:10] <ubottu> I'll remember that LjL | |
| [16:39] <Mez> LjL: ?? | |
| [16:39] <LjL> yes? | |
| [16:40] <Mez> why dc instead of rc? | |
| [16:40] <LjL> ljl@ljlbox:~$ lsb_release -rc | |
| [16:40] <LjL> Release: 8.04 | |
| [16:40] <LjL> Codename: hardy | |
| [16:40] <LjL> ljl@ljlbox:~$ lsb_release -dc | |
| [16:40] <LjL> Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 | |
| [16:40] <LjL> Codename: hardy | |
| [16:40] <Mez> yeah, I know the difference | |
| [16:40] <Mez> but. | |
| [16:40] <LjL> but, "-r" doesn't give you the real version. | |
| [16:40] <Mez> Description: Ubuntu intrepid (development branch) | |
| [16:40] <Mez> Codename: intrepid | |
| [16:41] <LjL> for that matter, i don't know why that's been changed from "lsb_release -a" to begin with | |
| [16:41] <Mez> @login | |
| [16:41] <ubottu> The operation succeeded. | |
| [16:41] <LjL> Mez: well that's correct | |
| [16:41] <LjL> Intrepid doesn't really have a version number yet | |
| [16:41] <LjL> it might be delayed (it won't, but) | |
| [16:42] <Mez> !version =~ s/lsb_release -dc/lsb_release -a/ | |
| [16:42] <ubottu> I'll remember that Mez | |
| [16:42] <Mez> !version | |
| [16:42] <ubottu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | |
| [16:42] <LjL> good call, i'm pretty sure nobody will be bothered by the couple more informative lines that outputs. | |
| [16:43] <Mez> and er, why use policy, policy is a bit confusing right? | |
| [16:43] <LjL> what else would you use? it's the command virtually everyone gives in #ubuntu to check package version, both installed and available, and just where it came from | |
| [16:43] <Mez> madison ? | |
| [16:44] <LjL> doesn't even tell you whether the package is actually installed | |
| [16:44] <Mez> dpkg -l ? :P | |
| [16:45] <LjL> what's wrong with apt-cache policy? it's just what that command exists for | |
| [16:45] <Mez> It's not very readable to be used in a factoid like that | |
| [16:46] <LjL> not sure i see why | |
| [16:46] <Mez> well, do you understand what | |
| [16:46] <Mez> 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages | |
| [16:46] <Mez> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | |
| [16:46] <LjL> the output of dpkg -l, on the other hand, is far from readable | |
| [16:46] <Mez> means? | |
| [16:46] <LjL> of course i do | |
| [16:47] <LjL> the version is available from intrepid's main repository, british mirror, with priority 500 | |
| [16:47] <LjL> it's known to the local status file | |
| [16:47] <Mez> priority ? | |
| [16:47] <LjL> yes, the repository's priority is 500 | |
| [16:47] <Mez> what do you mean "priority"? | |
| [16:48] <LjL> i mean that if APT has to choose between two packages, it will choose the one with the higher priority | |
| [16:48] <LjL> the security repository has a high priority | |
| [16:48] <LjL> locally installed packages have a low priority | |
| [16:49] <Mez> not neccessarily | |
| [16:49] <LjL> anyway, no one can mistake the part where it says "Installed: <version>, Candidate: <version>" | |
| [16:50] <Mez> It's actually the pinning priority ;) | |
| [16:50] <stdin> Mez, LjL: it was changed to -rc because people often paste all of "lsb_release -a" to the channel | |
| [16:50] <Mez> stdin: all 4 ? | |
| [16:51] <LjL> Mez: what other priority there is? | |
| [16:51] <Flannel> LjL: Any? | |
| [16:51] <stdin> Mez: why 4 when 2 will do | |
| [16:51] <LjL> Flannel: hm? | |
| [16:51] <Mez> stdin: why 2 when 1 will do? | |
| [16:51] <Flannel> LjL: You can specify arbitrary priorities | |
| [16:51] <stdin> and it'll probably print 5 actually | |
| [16:52] <LjL> stdin: because they don't really | |
| [16:52] <Flannel> The important thing about -a vs the others is it also has the codename | |
| [16:52] <Flannel> oh wait | |
| [16:52] <LjL> Flannel: -c gives the codename | |
| [16:52] <Flannel> LjL: see above | |
| [16:52] <Mez> why not lsb_release -c | |
| [16:53] <Flannel> Mez: because that's not the actual release name? | |
| [16:53] <LjL> Mez: because a lot of people know their codenames but not their version numbers, and vice versa | |
| [16:53] <stdin> -a == -virdc | |
| [16:53] * Flannel is torn between -d and -r | |
| [16:53] <Flannel> well, with -c | |
| [16:53] <LjL> also | |
| [16:53] <LjL> "description" (-d or -a) will let us know whether they're actually using ubuntu | |
| [16:53] <LjL> or a derivative | |
| [16:53] <LjL> "release" won't | |
| [16:53] <Flannel> actually, thats sometimes important | |
| [16:54] <LjL> yes, it is, given the amount of Mint etc. users who sneak in | |
| [16:54] <Flannel> so, lets just leave it as -a, most people know not to paste, etc. | |
| [16:54] <Flannel> social fixes for social problems, etc. | |
| [16:54] <stdin> do all derivatives change the description? | |
| [16:54] <LjL> Flannel: and if they don't, they'll find out one way or another anyway | |
| [16:54] <Mez> echo /etc/lsb-release | |
| [16:54] <Flannel> LjL: but it makes it easier for us ;) | |
| [16:54] <Mez> s/echo/cat/ | |
| [16:54] <LjL> stdin: well, maybe the stupid ones don't, but there's only so much i can do about it | |
| [16:54] <LjL> Mez, that's what the factoid used to say (well, it said /etc/issue) years ago | |
| [16:55] <Flannel> LjL: that's not acceptable! you need to go change all of the derivative's descriptions. | |
| [16:55] <LjL> Flannel: i will certainly bug them if i find out, you can bet on that | |
| [16:55] <LjL> Flannel: the trademarks department of canonical would normally also like to hear about that | |
| [16:57] <LjL> Flannel: anyway with "they'll find out one way or another", i meant to say that, if they don't paste all the five lines of -a but just two of them, then 5 minutes later they'll paste their entire xorg.conf | |
| [16:58] <LjL> so if someone doesn't know they should use the pastebin, it's even better they start finding out while pasting something small | |
| [17:42] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, d-b said: ubottu: ufw is ubuntu or uncomplicated firewall. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall . there is also gufw. | |
| [17:43] <ubottu> In ubottu, d-b said: ubottu: ufw is ubuntu or uncomplicated firewall. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall . there is also gufw. | |
| [17:44] * Flannel is the reason for the double post | |
| [17:51] <Pici> !ufw | |
| [17:51] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ufw | |
| [17:56] <genii> Good morning, afternoon or evening. | |
| [17:56] <Flannel> Howdy genii | |
| [17:56] <Pici> Hallo | |
| [17:57] <genii> I'm on today with Konversation but tonight after work I'll return for more irssi practice... | |
| [17:57] <genii> ;) | |
| [17:58] <Pici> Heh ;) | |
| [18:00] <PriceChild> genii: You don't have to switch. | |
| [18:00] <Pici> genii: Obi-wan never told you what happened to your father. | |
| [18:01] <genii> PriceChild: I figure I should probably know how it works anyways since the scripting features which make moderating easier, etc | |
| [18:01] <genii> Pici: Yes, he was a fellow full of secrets | |
| === tritium_ is now known as tritium | |
| [18:03] <PriceChild> genii: time so far been at all eventful? | |
| [18:04] <genii> PriceChild: As far as moderating #kubuntu , no. One fellow spamming some which I thnk mneptok took care of | |
| [18:04] <PriceChild> Good good. | |
| [18:04] <genii> They are generally well behaved in there :) | |
| [18:23] <Mez> genii: indeed, :D thats why I prefer the kubuntu channels, less ops calls ;) | |
| [18:24] <genii> How often does a mass bot attack like yesterday happen ? | |
| [18:27] <Pici> genii: In #ubuntu? | |
| [18:27] <Mez> depends on how evil the spammers are feeling | |
| [18:28] <genii> Pici: Yeah there were what looked like maybe 6-10 different sites with botname variations | |
| [18:28] <genii> Hmm | |
| [18:29] <Pici> genii: Not too often, but often enough that we have the floodbots in place to handle mass joins and such. | |
| [18:30] <genii> OK | |
| [18:47] <LjL> widely depends on the time of the year, mostly | |
| [18:50] <Mez> !eee is <alias> eeepc | |
| [18:50] <ubottu> I'll remember that, Mez | |
| [18:51] * Mez is surprised it doesnt have info about nbr | |
| [18:54] <Mez> o_O | |
| [18:54] <Mez> my eeePC isnt booting | |
| [18:55] <Mez> ah, left it on and knocked out power cable :D | |
| [18:56] <jussi01> hehe | |
| [19:05] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !aubade is <reply> <aubade> snuxoll: elephant penis <3 | |
| [19:06] <Tm_T> hi kids | |
| [19:07] <ikonia> magnetron appears to be going off the rails | |
| [19:07] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !elephant is <reply> <aubade> snuxoll: elephant penis <3 | |
| [19:08] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, aubade said: !magnetron is <reply> goodjobgoodjobgoodjobgoodjobgoodjob | |
| [19:10] * Mez rolls eyes | |
| [19:11] * Mez wonders how the research team into FSOE is getting on | |
| [19:11] <LjL> next time short ban, can't lead them to believe they can get this cruft through | |
| [20:38] <ubottu> In ubottu, Ktron_ said: rickroll is <reply>Never gonna give you up! | |
| [20:38] <LjL> !botabuse > ktron_ (ktron_, see the private message from Ubotu) | |
| [20:56] <ScottK> maestrolinux has been popping in and out of Ubuntu IRC channels and link spamming. He was just in #ubuntu-server. | |
| [20:56] <ScottK> Riddell banned him in #kubuntu-devel, but I guess it needs doing on a wider basis. | |
| [20:56] <christel> ScottK: klined, thanks | |
| [20:57] <ScottK> Thank you. | |
| [20:58] <christel> np | |
| [23:26] <ubottu> In ubottu, Some_Person said: ffmpeg is a cross-platform command line video encoder for linux. To install, type "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg". For help, type "ffmpeg -h" | |
| [23:59] <ubottu> In ubottu, drog said: ubottu, is there a god? | |