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[21:33] <soundray> AlexC: I understand you've tried displayconfig-gtk |
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[21:33] <AlexC> yes |
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[21:33] <soundray> AlexC: did you find a display setting there that matched your monitor? |
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[21:34] <AlexC> I also tried renaming xorg,.conf to xorg,conf.save and restarting X |
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[21:34] <AlexC> TY=The highest choices offered are 1280x1024 and 1400x800 |
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[21:35] <AlexC> I have selected as my monitor LCD 1680x1050 |
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[21:35] <AlexC> My video driver is for ATI Radeon |
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[21:35] <AlexC> It should work. But it doesnt |
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[21:35] <soundray> AlexC: did you change the Model setting away from "Plug and Play"? |
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[21:35] <AlexC> Yes. |
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[21:35] <AlexC> I have selected as my monitor LCD 1680x1050 |
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[21:36] <AlexC> I restarted and rebooted several times |
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[21:36] <soundray> What did you do after that? |
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[21:36] <soundray> Did you click on Test ? |
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[21:36] <AlexC> then I went into preferences->Screen Resolution but the highest resolution offered remains 1280x1024 |
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[21:36] <soundray> Please, for now, answer only my questions |
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[21:37] <soundray> Did you click on Test ? |
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[21:37] <AlexC> Yes |
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[21:37] <soundray> What happened? |
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[21:37] <AlexC> It displayed a grey hash pattern and asked if I wanted to save my settings. I said yes. |
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[21:38] <soundray> Okay. Are you at the poor resolution right now? |
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[21:38] <AlexC> I am at 1280x1024. There is a 1440x900 option also. |
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[21:39] <soundray> Okay. When you do 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' now, does it still show LCD 1680x1024 under Model? |
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[21:39] <AlexC> I have just switched to 1440x900. I dopnt like this one either.. |
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[21:39] <AlexC> let me try |
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[21:39] <soundray> AlexC: can you please, just while I'm helping you, not do anything other than what's in my train of thought? |
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[21:40] <AlexC> yes it still shows LCD Panel 1680x1050 |
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[21:40] <AlexC> (sorry) |
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[21:40] <soundray> Okay, good. |
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[21:40] <soundray> Please put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on a pastebin so I can have a look at it. |
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[21:41] <AlexC> Sure. (refresh my memory - what is the link to pastbin? |
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[21:41] <soundray> !pastebin |
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[21:41] <ubot5`> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) |
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[21:42] <soundray> Oh, ubottu's here, too. Good |
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[21:42] <soundray> ubot5`: Hi |
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[21:42] <ubot5`> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-classroom! |
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[21:43] <AlexC> Its there |
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[21:43] <soundray> AlexC: you know the drill |
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[21:43] <soundray> I need the link |
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[21:43] <AlexC> Oops |
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[21:44] <AlexC> I am looking for the link url but not finding it. |
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[21:45] <soundray> You just pasted it, didn't you? In Firefox? |
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[21:45] <AlexC> Yes |
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[21:45] <soundray> So look in the location bar |
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[21:45] <AlexC> It shows on the left under Alex Chigos |
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[21:46] <AlexC> http://pastebin.com/m332691d4 |
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[21:46] <AlexC> Sorry |
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[21:46] <AlexC> I am very frustrated. Not at my best |
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[21:47] <soundray> Where do these modelines come from? Did you put them in by hand? |
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[21:47] <soundray> Line 62 to 71 |
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[21:47] <soundray> *Lines |
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[21:47] <AlexC> Nope. I tried that but it didnt work. This xorg.conf was automatically generated after renaming my original file. |
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[21:48] <soundray> It's strange that it doesn't have a mode for the resolution you want |
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[21:48] <soundray> Would you mind starting from scratch? |
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[21:48] <AlexC> By the way. that 1400x1050@60 never appears as an option in either displayconfig-gtk or Preferences->tion |
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[21:48] <AlexC> Sure |
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[21:48] <AlexC> Please tell me what to do. |
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[21:49] <soundray> Okay, exit displayconfig if you haven't already |
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[21:49] <AlexC> I have |
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[21:49] <soundray> AlexC: in terminal, do mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-pre-soundray |
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[21:49] <soundray> sorry |
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[21:49] <AlexC> OK |
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[21:49] <soundray> AlexC: in terminal, do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-pre-soundray |
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[21:50] <AlexC> done |
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[21:50] <soundray> Now run 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' again. Model should be "Plug & Play" again. |
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[21:51] <AlexC> Nw says unknown |
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[21:51] <AlexC> No says unknown |
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[21:51] <soundray> Ah |
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[21:51] <AlexC> (encouraging sound) |
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[21:51] <soundray> Okay, just click on it and select LCD panel 1680x1024 again (that's your native resolution, correct?) |
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[21:51] <AlexC> OK |
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[21:52] <AlexC> done |
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[21:52] <soundray> Don't bother with Test, just save and pastebin me your new /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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[21:53] <AlexC> http://pastebin.com/d585b1f14 |
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[21:54] <soundray> Okay, that's annoying... it's back to what it was. |
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[21:54] <AlexC> Ah (more encouraging sound) |
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[21:55] <soundray> Shall we try and insert a mode for 1680x1024 manually? |
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[21:55] <AlexC> Lets |
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[21:55] <AlexC> Please guide me |
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[21:55] <soundray> The alternative would be for you to look into an ATI proprietary thing called Catalyst, which I know nothing about |
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[21:55] <AlexC> I am editing the file now |
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[21:55] <AlexC> Catalyst is for windows (I thiink) |
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[21:56] <soundray> I've heard they have it for Linux as well now |
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[21:56] <AlexC> I have been through this with red hat. I got it to work by editing xorg,.conf manually |
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[21:56] <soundray> Okay, give me a minute to find a proper modeline |
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[21:56] <AlexC> I tried copying the lines from my red hat machine into my ubuntu machine but it did not help |
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[21:59] <soundray> Do you have that version of xorg.conf still? |
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[22:00] <AlexC> I think so |
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[22:00] <AlexC> Do you want me to pastebin it? |
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[22:00] <soundray> Yes, if it's reasonably easy to find |
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[22:01] <AlexC> Would you like the entire reed hat xorg.conf or the modified ubuntu one with the correct video driver entries? |
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[22:01] <soundray> modified ubuntu one |
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[22:01] <AlexC> OK |
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[22:03] <AlexC> http://pastebin.com/m48a8fa0d |
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[22:04] <soundray> Theres a slight strangeness in that the modeline for 1680 has no hsync/vsync appendix |
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[22:05] <soundray> You didn't just miss that from the original -- did you? |
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[22:05] <AlexC> I noticed that. I suspect it has to do with the different versions of xorg between Red Hat EL ES 4 and Ubuntu 8.02 |
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[22:06] <AlexC> Is the file truncated in the post? |
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[22:06] <soundray> Yes |
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[22:06] <AlexC> Let me post it again |
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[22:06] <soundray> And it's word-wrapped |
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[22:08] <AlexC> http://pastebin.com/m7bdb4e7d |
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[22:08] <AlexC> I dont know about the word wrap. I am editing in a terminal window. That is what it does. |
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[22:08] <AlexC> In the file it is not wrapped. |
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[22:09] <soundray> Now it's more truncated |
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[22:09] <soundray> Do a 'cat /path/filename' and highlight that to paste |
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[22:09] <AlexC> When I click on the link ai just sent you, it appears to be complete. |
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[22:10] <soundray> Okay |
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[22:11] <soundray> I'd like to see the log when you use this config. |
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[22:12] <soundray> Can you make it current, restart X and pastebin the output from |
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[22:12] <soundray> grep 1680 /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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[22:12] <AlexC> Should I copy it over and restart X then come back to the #ubuntu-classroom |
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[22:12] <soundray> Yes, please |
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[22:12] <AlexC> OK |
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[22:12] <soundray> I'll wait |
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[22:17] <AlexC> http://pastebin.com/m620a8c96 |
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[22:17] <AlexC> Soundray - still there? |
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[22:17] <soundray> Yes |
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[22:18] <AlexC> just the lines containig 1680 |
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[22:19] <soundray> It looks all good... Still no 1680 in System-Preferences-Screen Resolution? |
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[22:19] <AlexC> Nope - just checked |
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[22:20] <soundray> Do you have the model name of the LCD panel there? |
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[22:20] <AlexC> I think so |
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[22:21] <soundray> Are you going to tell me? |
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[22:22] <AlexC> I had to get a magnifying glass. There is no model number printed on the monitor front or back |
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[22:22] <AlexC> Neither on the box |
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[22:22] <AlexC> Let me check the invoice |
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[22:23] <soundray> Do you get any output when you run xrandr ? |
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[22:23] <AlexC> E2009FP |
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[22:24] <AlexC> yes |
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[22:24] <AlexC> I will post it |
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[22:24] <soundray> Please |
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[22:24] <AlexC> http://pastebin.com/m6cc8cbf |
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[22:25] <soundray> What happens when you do |
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[22:26] <AlexC> ? |
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[22:26] <soundray> xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto |
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[22:26] <AlexC> Not even a blink |
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[22:26] <AlexC> Nothing changes |
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[22:27] <AlexC> Can I specify the resolution in xrandr |
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[22:27] <soundray> yes |
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[22:27] <soundray> I have to read up how |
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[22:28] <AlexC> I tried $xrandr -s 1680x1050 |
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[22:28] <AlexC> got Size 1680x1050 not found in available modes |
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[22:29] <soundray> Yeah |
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[22:29] <soundray> It's listed as the maximum, but it's not listed as a possible mode |
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[22:29] <soundray> Could you send me your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
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[22:29] <AlexC> It is interesting that it says Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1680 x 1050 but then does not list 1680x1050 in mode list |
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[22:30] <soundray> You can use https://fileexchange.imperial.ac.uk if it's too big for pastebin |
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[22:30] <soundray> Yes, indeed |
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[22:30] <soundray> That's why I think another look at the log is in order |
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[22:31] <AlexC> Your email address is requuested |
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[22:31] <soundray> soundray at imperial ac uk |
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[22:32] <AlexC> is that soundray@imperial_ac.uk? |
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[22:32] <soundray> AlexC: no |
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[22:32] <soundray> You're not meant to repeat it here |
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[22:32] <soundray> Why do you think I obfuscated it? |
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[22:32] <AlexC> Sorry, it is asking me to put something there. |
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[22:32] <soundray> Look at the https address, that should give you a clue |
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[22:33] <AlexC> gotit |
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[22:33] <soundray> This channel is publicly logged. You've just tripled my spam volume |
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[22:36] <AlexC> https://fileexchange.imperial.ac.uk/int/3a6b1da3d43/Xorg.0.log |
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[22:36] <AlexC> I am so very sorry |
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[22:38] <soundray> It's very weird. All it ever says is that 1680x1050 is supported, so it should be fine -- but it obviously isn't |
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[22:39] <soundray> If it was my computer, I'd try the proprietary ATI driver next. |
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[22:39] <soundray> Do you want instructions for that? |
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[22:39] <AlexC> Please |
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[22:40] <soundray> System-Administration-Hardware Drivers -- enable the ATI driver and follow the instructions. You will probably have to log out and back in -- I'll hang around. |
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[22:40] <soundray> Might even ask you to reboot |
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[22:42] <AlexC> When I do System->Admin->Hardware Drivers I get a window that is somewhat empty and says No proprietry drivers are in use on this system. |
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[22:42] <soundray> Dang |
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[22:42] <AlexC> My sentiments exactly |
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[22:43] <soundray> Maybe envyng would force it |
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[22:43] <soundray> but I have no experience with it |
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[22:43] <soundray> Should be straightforward, though |
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[22:43] <AlexC> envying? |
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[22:43] <soundray> envyng |
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[22:43] <soundray> !info envyng |
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[22:43] <AlexC> apt-get install envyng? |
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[22:44] <soundray> Think so -- hold on... |
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[22:44] <soundray> !info envyng-gtk |
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[22:44] <soundray> Bot is dead. |
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[22:44] <soundray> apt-get install envyng-gtk should do it |
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[22:44] <AlexC> it is now installed. |
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[22:45] <AlexC> cool |
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[22:45] <soundray> Is it running? |
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[22:46] <AlexC> running it now |
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[22:46] <AlexC> It is downloading something |
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[22:46] <soundray> Yes, that's what it's for |
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[22:46] <AlexC> building . . . |
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[22:46] <soundray> The latest ATI Linux driver |
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[22:47] <AlexC> complete restarting - be right back |
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[22:54] <AlexC> soundray are you there |
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[22:54] <soundray> Yes |
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[22:55] <AlexC> I rebooted. It came up at 640x480. I run displayconfig-gtk and selected 1280x1024 |
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[22:56] <soundray> Depressing |
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[22:56] <AlexC> I then tried to run catalyst and it said there was a problem initializing the catalyst driver |
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[22:56] <AlexC> No ATI graphics driver is installed or the ATI driver is not functioning properly |
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[22:57] <soundray> I've been thinking that there might be a hardware initialization issue |
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[22:57] <soundray> Oh envyng hasn't done its job properly either, then |
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[22:57] <AlexC> Please install the ATI driver appropriate for your harware or configure it with aticonfig |
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[22:57] <AlexC> aticonfig gives me 8 pages of usage notes |
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[22:57] <soundray> Yeah, that one's horrible |
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[22:57] <AlexC> I tried aticonfig --initial and got seg fault |
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[22:58] <soundray> Here's another thing to try |
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[22:58] <soundray> Assuming that it's initialization trouble |
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[22:59] <AlexC> should I re,pve envyng? |
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[22:59] <soundray> Do you know how to set a boot option? |
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[22:59] <AlexC> can you be more specific? |
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[22:59] <soundray> AlexC: I don't think it's done anything, so you might keep it around for when a driver becomes available |
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[22:59] <AlexC> I can press esc at grub to go into the menu. |
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[23:00] <soundray> AlexC: yes, that's what I'd like you to try |
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[23:00] <AlexC> Then I think I press E to edit the kernel line |
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[23:00] <soundray> then hit E on the default boot entry to edit, |
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[23:00] <AlexC> What should I append |
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[23:00] <soundray> then E again on the kernel line |
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[23:00] <soundray> hold on... |
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[23:01] <AlexC> Do you think envyng will interfere? |
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[23:01] <soundray> No |
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[23:01] <AlexC> OK |
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[23:02] <soundray> vga=866 |
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[23:02] <AlexC> OK |
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[23:02] <AlexC> I will be right back |
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[23:02] <soundray> It's a bit of a shot in the dark |
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[23:10] <AlexC> Hi Soundray |
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[23:11] <AlexC> Hi Soundray |
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[23:13] <AlexC> Here I am |
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[23:13] <soundray> Here we all are |
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[23:13] <DarkGu1> Soundray, alexc |
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[23:13] <DarkGu1> Hello |
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[23:13] <soundray> It's strange that |
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[23:13] <soundray> Wherever you go there you are |
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[23:13] <DarkGu1> The page you gave me is 404 |
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[23:13] <AlexC> Hi DarkGu1 |
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[23:13] <soundray> Buckaroo Banzai was right |
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[23:13] <DarkGu1> hey |
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[23:13] <DarkGu1> ??? |
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[23:13] <soundray> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions |
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[23:13] <soundray> Works here |
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[23:14] <AlexC> Soundray - it didnt like that video mode. It gave me the option to scan which I tried. I then chose the highest option it offered me |
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[23:14] <soundray> AlexC: this was about initialisation of the monitor |
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[23:14] <AlexC> That scrambled my screen |
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[23:14] <AlexC> I was able to go to Alt-F1 and copy my xorg.conf back and reboot |
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[23:14] <AlexC> I am back to 1280x1024 |
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[23:15] <DarkGu1> AlexC: what's your monitors maker |
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[23:15] <AlexC> Dell |
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[23:15] <soundray> AlexC: I was hoping that being initialised with vga=866 would make it more cooperative |
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[23:15] <AlexC> I suspect it may be a samsung oem |
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[23:15] <DarkGu1> soundray: I'm going to reboot. Wait here |
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[23:15] <soundray> Oh, I've got an order |
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[23:15] <AlexC> Yes but it rejected that mode and offered me other choices |
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[23:15] <soundray> AlexC: I see |
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[23:16] <AlexC> scan listed my choices |
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[23:16] <AlexC> I had to pick something so I chose the highest number |
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[23:16] <soundray> What was that? |
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[23:16] <AlexC> Perhaps not the best choice |
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[23:16] <AlexC> I dont know |
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[23:16] <soundray> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers |
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[23:16] <AlexC> My short term memory isn't what it used to be |
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[23:17] <soundray> How old are you? |
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[23:17] <AlexC> none of those was listed as a choice |
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[23:17] <AlexC> (from your link) |
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[23:17] <soundray> No, they are graphical modes |
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[23:17] <soundray> scan only lists text modes |
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[23:17] <AlexC> only text modes ie e 162 132x44 |
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[23:19] <AlexC> It did say mode 866 not available |
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[23:19] <AlexC> I am 52 |
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[23:19] <AlexC> I am a Python (pygtk) and C developer |
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[23:19] <AlexC> I have been programming since 1980 |
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[23:19] <AlexC> I am usually pretty good at this kindd of thing |
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[23:20] <soundray> I started programming in 1980 :) |
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[23:20] <AlexC> I only use the irc as a last resort after exhausting my other choices including google |
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[23:20] <soundray> Didn't keep it up, though |
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[23:20] <AlexC> No I am very active |
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[23:20] <soundray> All I write these days are bash scriptes |
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[23:20] <AlexC> I am not near a pen and paper and did not write it down |
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[23:20] <DarkGu1> soundray |
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[23:20] <soundray> *scripts |
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[23:20] <DarkGu1> Did you say vga=866 |
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[23:20] <AlexC> yes |
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[23:20] <soundray> yes |
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[23:21] <DarkGu1> It wouldn't let me do it |
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[23:21] <DarkGu1> Said unrecognized or something |
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[23:21] <soundray> Well, it wasn't the best choice |
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[23:21] <AlexC> yes - mode 866 not available - then it listed about 8 modes + scan |
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[23:21] <DarkGu1> Any other options? |
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[23:21] <AlexC> I chose scan |
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[23:21] <soundray> 791 should work everywhere |
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[23:21] <AlexC> I got a list of text modes |
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[23:21] <AlexC> I chose one |
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[23:21] <DarkGu1> I doubt a boot option will help |
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[23:22] <AlexC> So do you want me to try again with 791? |
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[23:22] <soundray> 791 is 1024x768 at 16bit |
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[23:22] <AlexC> I can already get that |
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[23:22] <soundray> DarkGu1: I've fixed at least one strangely behaving machine with that |
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[23:22] <DarkGu1> soundray: But I need 1400by1500 with 24 bit |
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[23:22] <soundray> That number keeps changing, DarkGu1 |
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[23:23] <DarkGu1> What number? |
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[23:23] <soundray> I guess you mean 1440x1050 |
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[23:23] <AlexC> Remember that xrandr said my monitor could do 1680 x 1050 but did not list that option |
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[23:23] <DarkGu1> No I don't |
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[23:23] <DarkGu1> I mean 1400by1050 |
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[23:24] <soundray> AlexC: DarkGu1's xrandr says maximum 1280x800 |
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[23:24] <soundray> It's all too weird for me |
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[23:24] <soundray> Sorry I couldn't help guys |
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[23:24] <AlexC> Dang |
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[23:24] <DarkGu1> Are the two sound rays the same |
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[23:24] <soundray> DarkGu1: are there two of me? |
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[23:24] <DarkGu1> Yes, on e gold, one green |
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[23:25] <soundray> Things are getting ever weirder |
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[23:25] <AlexC> soundray - are you part of the ubuntu dev team? |
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[23:25] <soundray> No |
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[23:25] <AlexC> double dang |
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[23:26] <AlexC> I wish I could find a regular 19" monitor (not wide) |
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[23:26] <AlexC> They seem to have stopped making them |
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[23:26] <AlexC> This machine is for a customer and is scheduled to be installed monday morning |
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[23:26] <AlexC> I will have a difficult tome dancing arouind this |
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[23:26] <AlexC> I will have a difficult time dancing arouind this |
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[23:27] <AlexC> I have been on the ubuntu page since 1:00 EST trying to fix this. It is now 6:25 |
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[23:27] <AlexC> thats a long time with no results. |
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[23:27] <AlexC> I very much appreciate your help. |
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[23:27] <soundray> Agreed |
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[23:28] <soundray> Is the graphics card very recent? |
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[23:28] <AlexC> I thought ubuntu was "the linux that just works" |
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[23:28] <AlexC> No |
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[23:28] <soundray> Graphics is always a problem, esp. ATI and NVidia |
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[23:29] <AlexC> I have been installing this exact configuration (Dell Power Edge Server SC1430) with Red Hat Enterpreise Linux for at least 2 years. Red Hat works with this config |
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[23:29] <AlexC> If not ATI and nVidia, then what? |
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[23:29] <soundray> Intel worked out of the box for me |
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[23:29] <AlexC> Are they not the two most popular video cards in the industry? |
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[23:29] <soundray> They certainly are |
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[23:30] <AlexC> So the guys at Ubuntu just thought they would ignore that fact? |
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[23:30] <soundray> And they happen to be made by the most un-enlightened companies around, as far as free software is concerned |
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[23:30] <AlexC> Ore the guys at xorg |
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[23:30] <soundray> It's not a lack of effort on Ubuntu's part |
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[23:30] <AlexC> How about Dell? |
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[23:30] <AlexC> Maybe someone should let them klnow |
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[23:31] <soundray> You can't write a free video driver without open specifications |
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[23:31] <soundray> Oh, they are being told all the time |
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[23:31] <AlexC> Again, the most popular manufacturer in ths business |
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[23:31] <soundray> Torvalds has threatened closing the kernel API to proprietary modules |
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[23:31] <AlexC> That will driver more people away from linux |
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[23:32] <soundray> Possibly |
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[23:32] <soundray> Well, the fact that it hasn't happened says something |
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[23:32] <AlexC> I think Linux is a pretty smart guy. |
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[23:32] <AlexC> I think Linus is a pretty smart guy. |
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[23:33] <soundray> But there are vocal hardliners among the kernel devs who wouldn't give a toss about popularity |
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[23:33] <AlexC> I do have a problem with the kernel versioning thing! |
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[23:33] <soundray> Yeah, and he's only 13 |
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[23:33] <AlexC> I used to be able to run one version of my X-Med software on any rev of modern linux |
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[23:34] <AlexC> Now I must compile on 4 different machines |
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[23:34] <AlexC> argh |
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[23:34] <soundray> Medical practice software? |
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[23:34] <AlexC> yes |
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[23:34] <soundray> Cool |
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[23:34] <soundray> I'm a doctor |
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[23:34] <AlexC> X-Med is written in C |
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[23:35] <AlexC> my new product, Cybax is written in pygtk |
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[23:35] <AlexC> It runs on linux, mac and windows |
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[23:35] <AlexC> This server will be running X-Med |
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[23:35] <AlexC> cybax is still being developd |
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[23:36] <AlexC> It is very cool |
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[23:36] <AlexC> What kind of doctor? |
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[23:36] <soundray> Is it for appointments and such, or for medical records as well? |
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[23:36] <soundray> Radiologist |
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[23:36] <AlexC> All of the above - including medical records, billing, appointments and document management |
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[23:36] <AlexC> Do you know ali? |
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[23:37] <soundray> HL7 compliant? |
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[23:37] <soundray> No |
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[23:37] <AlexC> He is an anesthesiologist in the UK |
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[23:37] <soundray> On IRC? |
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[23:37] <AlexC> X-Med is Hl7 compliant. Cybax will be |
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[23:37] <soundray> Wow, that must have been hard work... |
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[23:38] <AlexC> Yes - I wrote X-Med single handedly |
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[23:38] <AlexC> I have help with Cybax |
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[23:38] <AlexC> We are using an indian outsourcing company and one of my partners is an ophthalmologist/prrogrammer |
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[23:38] <soundray> I worked for a company once who were selling image management software |
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[23:38] <AlexC> What software? |
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[23:39] <AlexC> Cameleo |
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[23:39] <AlexC> ? |
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[23:39] <soundray> They were aiming to make it HL7 compliant, but went bust before they could :) |
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[23:39] <AlexC> I see |
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[23:39] <AlexC> I am waiting for a rediologist to read an MRI I had today |
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[23:40] <AlexC> on my right medial malleolus |
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[23:40] <soundray> Oh -- nothing bad I hope |
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[23:40] <AlexC> to rule out osteomyelitis |
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[23:40] <soundray> Bad twisted ankle? |
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[23:40] <AlexC> I have an ulcer that has fusarium fungus in it |
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[23:41] <soundray> Nasty |
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[23:41] <AlexC> My infectious disease doctor wants to be sure it is not in the bone before she prescrribes mefs |
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[23:41] <AlexC> My infectious disease doctor wants to be sure it is not in the bone before she prescrribes meds |
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[23:41] <AlexC> I hope not |
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[23:41] <soundray> I bet the med students are all keen to see you |
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[23:41] <AlexC> I saw the images - there were no obvious lights or dark spots on the malleolus that I could see |
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[23:42] <AlexC> But I am not a doctor |
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[23:42] <AlexC> I just make it a point to understand things about my body (and others) |
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[23:42] <soundray> It would be rare for a fungal ulcer to penetrate into the bone |
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[23:42] <AlexC> I was a pre-veteranary student when I got stupid and got married |
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[23:42] <AlexC> That's encouraging |
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[23:43] <AlexC> My ID dr is just being through |
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[23:43] <AlexC> My ID dr is just being thorough |
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[23:43] <soundray> ID? |
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[23:43] <AlexC> I also play keyboards in a Yes triburte band |
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[23:44] <soundray> :) |
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[23:44] <AlexC> (www.x-med/com/MP3/ |
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[23:44] <AlexC> there is an instrumental version of Close To The Edge there |
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[23:44] <AlexC> (www.x-med.com/MP3/ |
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[23:45] <AlexC> Well, I must be on my way. It has been a pleasure talking to you |
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[23:45] <soundray> Again, sorry I couldn't really help |
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[23:45] <AlexC> Thanks for trying. :) Bye |
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[23:46] <soundray> It's worth going down the initialization route once more |
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[23:46] <soundray> vga=792 |
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[23:46] <soundray> Good luck! |
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[23:46] <AlexC> What do you hope this will accomplish? |
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[23:46] <AlexC> I suspect the problem is with the adapter, not the monitor |
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[23:47] <AlexC> Good night |
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