| === salgado-afk is now known as salgado | |
| [16:00] <danilos> me | |
| [16:00] <matsubara> #startmeeting | |
| [16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is matsubara. | |
| [16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | |
| [16:00] <matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues. | |
| [16:00] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call | |
| [16:00] <MootBot> New Topic: Roll Call | |
| [16:00] <sinzui> me | |
| [16:01] <matsubara> who's here today? | |
| [16:01] <stub> yo | |
| [16:01] <danilos> me | |
| [16:01] <flacoste> me | |
| [16:01] <matsubara> bigjools, intellectronica, rockstar, Ursinha ? | |
| [16:01] <bigjools> meeeee | |
| [16:01] <Ursinha> me | |
| [16:02] <matsubara> hmm I think rockstar is flying to London, isn't he? | |
| [16:02] <flacoste> yep | |
| [16:02] <matsubara> ok, let's move on without Code and Bugs | |
| [16:02] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda | |
| [16:02] <MootBot> New Topic: Agenda | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> * Next meeting | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> * Actions from last meeting | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> * Oops report & Critical Bugs | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> * DBA report (DBA contact) | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> * QA Stats of the week | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> [topic] next meeting | |
| [16:03] <MootBot> New Topic: next meeting | |
| [16:03] <matsubara> so, no meeting next week? | |
| [16:03] <Ursinha> matsubara, will be live! | |
| [16:03] <danilos> or live meeting? | |
| [16:03] <mpt> We'll do it live! | |
| [16:03] <bigjools> oh man | |
| [16:04] <bigjools> our secret identities will be blown | |
| [16:04] <matsubara> forgot the LOSA | |
| [16:04] <stub> You mean I have to wear pants?? | |
| [16:04] <matsubara> herb: around? | |
| [16:04] <herb> me | |
| [16:04] <Ursinha> lol | |
| [16:04] <danilos> stub: that's never been necessary for live meetings | |
| [16:04] <matsubara> ok, will any of the LOSAs attending the Epic? | |
| [16:04] * sinzui will still be in his jim-jams | |
| [16:04] <danilos> matsubara: I don't think the timezone suits them :) | |
| [16:04] <herb> matsubara: I don't think so, no. | |
| [16:04] <danilos> herb: really? | |
| [16:05] <herb> danilos: I know I'm not. | |
| [16:05] <matsubara> ok, we can have the meeting there then and ask one of the LOSAs to join us | |
| [16:05] <herb> I'm fairly certain spm isn't. That only leaves mthaddon and he hasn't mentioned anything to me about it. | |
| [16:06] <matsubara> i guess he's not going by his reply to mwhudson_ climbing email | |
| [16:06] <flacoste> mthaddon isn't coming | |
| [16:06] <flacoste> matsubara: right | |
| [16:06] <matsubara> we'll sort it out there and let you know herb | |
| [16:07] <matsubara> [topic] * Actions from last meeting | |
| [16:07] <MootBot> New Topic: * Actions from last meeting | |
| [16:07] <matsubara> * Ursinha to keep an eye on OOPSes regarding bug 277129, to confirm that the bug is really fixed. | |
| [16:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277129 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when attempting to render a timeout page" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277129 | |
| [16:07] <flacoste> actually | |
| [16:07] <flacoste> that fix was only deployed to staging | |
| [16:07] <Ursinha> yes | |
| [16:07] <flacoste> so that watch was meaningless | |
| [16:07] <Ursinha> yes again | |
| [16:07] <flacoste> i can say now that it is fix | |
| [16:07] <flacoste> fixed | |
| [16:07] <flacoste> but that we have a fall-out for it :-) | |
| [16:08] <flacoste> the DoomedTransaction OOPS you saw this morning | |
| [16:08] <matsubara> the other two items are for intellectronica | |
| [16:08] <flacoste> and that gary is working on | |
| [16:09] <matsubara> and another item for me, which i did (matsubara to find or file a new bug for the core dump issue and add info discussed today there, subscribe niemeyer, kiko and someone from ubuntu | |
| [16:09] <matsubara> ) | |
| [16:09] <matsubara> thanks flacoste | |
| [16:09] <flacoste> good progress has been made on that one | |
| [16:09] <flacoste> it was in reviewed last time i checked | |
| [16:10] <matsubara> great | |
| [16:10] <matsubara> I guess I'm not receiving notifications for it | |
| [16:11] <matsubara> maybe I forgot to subscribe myself | |
| [16:11] <matsubara> anyway, moving on | |
| [16:11] <flacoste> i,m not sure there was progress report on the bug | |
| [16:11] <matsubara> flacoste: hmm, I'll update it after the meeting then. | |
| [16:12] <matsubara> [action] matsubara update core dump bug with progress made last week | |
| [16:12] <MootBot> ACTION received: matsubara update core dump bug with progress made last week | |
| [16:12] <matsubara> thanks | |
| [16:12] <matsubara> [topic] * Oops report & Critical Bugs | |
| [16:12] <MootBot> New Topic: * Oops report & Critical Bugs | |
| [16:12] <herb> flacoste, matsubara what was the bug number for that so I can subscribe myself? | |
| [16:12] <matsubara> Ursinha: floor is yours | |
| [16:12] <matsubara> herb: let me look | |
| [16:12] <Ursinha> okay | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> 7 bugs, not sure if it'll be pointless but will list all them anyway | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> 3 for foundations: bug 284458, 284418, 284403 | |
| [16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 284458 in launchpad-foundations "API NotFoundErrors should be converted to NotFound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284458 | |
| [16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 284418 in launchpad-foundations "oops reports not displaying the whole traceback" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284418 | |
| [16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 284403 in launchpad-foundations "DoomedTransaction OOPS in +specworkload page" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284403 | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> 1 for shipit: 284448, salgado already told that it's only caused when users handcraft URLs, need to set priority on it | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> 1 for translations: 284429 | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> 1 for soyuz: 264319 | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> oops | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> bug 284448 | |
| [16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 284448 in shipit "Custom 404 page for shipit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284448 | |
| [16:13] <Ursinha> bug 284429 | |
| [16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 284429 in rosetta "NotOneError raised while uploading a translation file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284429 | |
| [16:14] <Ursinha> bug 264319 | |
| [16:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 264319 in soyuz "Broken link in breadcrumbs for source packages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264319 | |
| [16:14] <Ursinha> 1 for bugs: bug 186262 | |
| [16:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 186262 in malone "+filebug pages time out" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186262 | |
| [16:14] <bigjools> I'll take 264319 | |
| [16:14] <matsubara> flacoste: can you comment on 284458? | |
| [16:14] <Ursinha> bigjools, thanks | |
| [16:15] <danilos> Ursinha: we'll look into 284429 | |
| [16:15] <matsubara> the other two from foundations are being diagnosed/addressed already | |
| [16:15] <Ursinha> danilos, thanks | |
| [16:15] <flacoste> matsubara: that's a bug for SOyuz | |
| [16:15] <danilos> Ursinha: jtv was looking at it just before he left | |
| [16:15] <flacoste> it's not API code | |
| [16:15] <flacoste> it's soyuz code invoked through the API | |
| [16:15] <bigjools> flacoste: is it just a case of returning a different exception? | |
| [16:15] <flacoste> yep | |
| [16:15] <flacoste> bigjools: NotFound | |
| [16:15] <bigjools> ok, easy | |
| [16:16] <matsubara> flacoste: right, I thought the NotFoundError was a generic thing | |
| [16:16] <bigjools> I got that one too Ursinha | |
| [16:16] <flacoste> not in this case | |
| [16:16] <matsubara> all right, thanks flacoste | |
| [16:16] <Ursinha> bigjools, ok, I'll take not | |
| [16:16] <Ursinha> bigjools, do you want me to assign it to you? | |
| [16:16] <bigjools> Ursinha: I'll do it right now when I target it | |
| [16:16] <flacoste> 284418 is something to fix when we deploy | |
| [16:16] <flacoste> i assigned it to canonical-losas | |
| [16:16] <Ursinha> bigjools, ok, thanks | |
| [16:16] <flacoste> i think Tom is the one who would fix it | |
| [16:17] <matsubara> herb: bug 95822 | |
| [16:17] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 95822 in apport "Malone connection generates an "Internal Server Error" on large file attachments" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95822 | |
| [16:17] <herb> matsubara: thanks. | |
| [16:17] <flacoste> (we need to remove the .pyc after renaming the directory and before starting the app server) | |
| [16:17] <flacoste> gary is handling 284403 | |
| [16:18] <flacoste> and that's the fall-out from the fix to the timeout-related exception | |
| [16:18] <matsubara> I guess that's all Ursinha ? | |
| [16:19] <Ursinha> salgado, what about bug 284448? | |
| [16:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 284448 in shipit "Custom 404 page for shipit" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284448 | |
| [16:19] <sinzui> I'm not certain about the priority | |
| [16:19] <matsubara> Ursinha: salgado already said it's low priority and he's not supposed to attend this meeting :-) | |
| [16:19] <Ursinha> matsubara, old habit :) I'll set the bug to low | |
| [16:20] <Ursinha> sinzui, why? | |
| [16:20] <sinzui> It interferes with bookmarks. We should be redirecting in the example given. | |
| [16:21] <sinzui> The 404 page is needed, but the users who have used shipit.edubuntu should know they can access their information at shipit.ubuntu | |
| [16:21] <Ursinha> sinzui, can you set the proper priority on that, please? | |
| [16:22] <sinzui> I'm not certain how many users the problem really affect to know whether we should be redirecting | |
| [16:22] <sinzui> Ursinha: I think seeing the frequency of oopses help me to know the priority | |
| [16:22] <Ursinha> sinzui, so we should keep it low and see if it happens more often? | |
| [16:22] <matsubara> Ursinha: bring it up again if the OOPS count for that one increases too much | |
| [16:23] <Ursinha> ok, I'll feed the bug with more oopses if they happen | |
| [16:23] <Ursinha> and bring it here | |
| [16:23] <Ursinha> there's only the bugs' bug left | |
| [16:23] <sinzui> Ursinha: I would definitely make it high if this happens almost every day...but I think in this case the problem is that the user need to get to shipit.ubuntu | |
| [16:23] <matsubara> sinzui: so far we had like 3 OOPSes, so doesn't seem to happen often | |
| [16:24] <matsubara> intellectronica: around? | |
| [16:24] <Ursinha> intellectronica, bug 186262 | |
| [16:24] <intellectronica> matsubara: yes | |
| [16:24] <Ursinha> intellectronica, hi :) | |
| [16:24] <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/186262/+text) | |
| [16:24] <Ursinha> oh my | |
| [16:24] <Ursinha> intellectronica, https://launchpad.net/bugs/186262 | |
| [16:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 186262 in malone "+filebug pages time out" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [16:25] <intellectronica> ouch | |
| [16:25] <intellectronica> wow, this is quite old, is it a comeback? | |
| [16:26] <matsubara> intellectronica: yeah, looks like. mthaddon tried to file a bug recently and got a timeout | |
| [16:26] <sinzui> Is it really High if the bug is old? | |
| [16:26] <Ursinha> intellectronica, yes, it seems | |
| [16:26] <Ursinha> I've seen it lately | |
| [16:26] <Ursinha> the oopses, that is | |
| [16:26] <intellectronica> Ursinha: ok, assigning to myself and will investigate | |
| [16:26] <mthaddon> matsubara, I know someone else got it recently too (a non-canonical employee) | |
| [16:26] <Ursinha> intellectronica, ok, thanks | |
| [16:27] <Ursinha> nothing else from me, then | |
| [16:27] <intellectronica> Ursinha: is this something that happens consistently? | |
| [16:27] <Ursinha> intellectronica, I was able to reproduce | |
| [16:27] <matsubara> intellectronica: yes, depending on what you use as the bug summary | |
| [16:27] <intellectronica> anyway, we can discuss later | |
| [16:27] <matsubara> and it's workaroundable | |
| [16:27] <matsubara> so, I guess that's why people are not complaining so loudly :-) | |
| [16:27] <matsubara> thanks for taking it intellectronica | |
| [16:28] <matsubara> we have only 1 critical bug which is fix committed | |
| [16:28] <Ursinha> no critical bugs, also, besides one fix committed | |
| [16:28] <matsubara> actually should be fix released by now | |
| [16:29] <Ursinha> thanks guys, you can move on matsubara | |
| [16:29] <matsubara> thanks everyone | |
| [16:29] <matsubara> [topic] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) | |
| [16:29] <MootBot> New Topic: * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) | |
| [16:29] <herb> * Monday (2008-10-13): Did a cherry pick to lpnet* to update the shipit pages for intrepid. | |
| [16:29] <herb> * Last night (2008-10-16): Rolled out 2.1.10 | |
| [16:29] <herb> * Over the last week we've had to restart codebrowse 7 times because it was unresponsive. | |
| [16:30] <matsubara> very well executed rollout, btw. Congrats! 21 min downtime only | |
| [16:30] <herb> I'll look into whether or not there are any bugs filed for the codebrowse issue. if not I'll take care of that after the meething. | |
| [16:30] <matsubara> [action] herb to find or file a bug about codebrowse being unresponsive and needing restarts | |
| [16:30] <MootBot> ACTION received: herb to find or file a bug about codebrowse being unresponsive and needing restarts | |
| [16:30] <herb> matsubara: lifeless and mthaddon worked out a change in procedure. really seemed to help | |
| [16:31] <mthaddon> we've actually had a 21 minutes rollout before (1.2.4), but I definitely agree the new rollout method is much better and quicker) | |
| [16:32] <matsubara> herb: indeed. the only downside is that oops reports are less informative now, but flacoste will email you guys about it | |
| [16:32] <flacoste> that's done | |
| [16:32] <matsubara> cool | |
| [16:32] <matsubara> anything else for herb? | |
| [16:32] <flacoste> are we having a re-roll? | |
| [16:32] <herb> I haven't heard anything about that. | |
| [16:32] <herb> doesn't mean we aren't | |
| [16:32] <flacoste> matsubara, Ursinha? | |
| [16:32] <flacoste> what's your feeling? | |
| [16:33] <flacoste> personnally, candidate for it would only be for the DoomedTransaction problem | |
| [16:33] <mthaddon> OOPS reports less informative? | |
| [16:33] <matsubara> flacoste: it'd be nice to have the oops thing fixed and I guess we don't need to re-roll for that, right? | |
| [16:33] <flacoste> matsubara: just restart | |
| [16:33] <mthaddon> is this because we make build in another directory, or unrelated? | |
| [16:33] <matsubara> the other issues so far don't look that critical | |
| [16:33] <flacoste> mthaddon: it is, i sent you an email about it | |
| [16:33] <matsubara> in any case we'll be checking the oops summaries the whole day, and if anything comes up, we'll let you know | |
| [16:34] <flacoste> DoomedTransaction problem is the ghost of the old timeout problem | |
| [16:34] <flacoste> so would happen as often as it | |
| [16:34] <mthaddon> flacoste, ok, see the email here | |
| [16:34] <flacoste> we could cherry-pick the fix | |
| [16:34] <flacoste> or re-roll | |
| [16:34] <Ursinha> flacoste, well, so far I guess that only a CP would be enough | |
| [16:35] <flacoste> since we are still in r-c | |
| [16:35] <flacoste> mode | |
| [16:35] <flacoste> i think it's easier for the LOSA to do a re-roll than a CP | |
| [16:35] <flacoste> mthaddon, herb: is that right? | |
| [16:35] <sinzui> flacoste: the old timeout problem as in bug #244957? | |
| [16:35] <ubottu> Bug 244957 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/244957 is private | |
| [16:35] <herb> it's easier on pqm. :) | |
| [16:35] <herb> if we re-roll we don't need to run the test suite on the release+patch. | |
| [16:35] <flacoste> matsubara: no as in bug 277129 | |
| [16:35] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277129 in launchpad-foundations "OOPS when attempting to render a timeout page" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277129 | |
| [16:36] <matsubara> sinzui: ^ | |
| [16:36] <flacoste> herb, mthaddon: what time would be good for a re-roll today? | |
| [16:37] <mthaddon> flacoste, any time is fine - re-roll to where? | |
| [16:37] <flacoste> app-servers | |
| [16:37] <mthaddon> flacoste, yeah, anytime is fine | |
| [16:37] <stub> After the fix exists might be best though | |
| [16:37] <flacoste> :-) | |
| [16:37] <mthaddon> flacoste, sooner the better, but really no difference | |
| [16:37] <mthaddon> and what he said :) | |
| [16:38] <flacoste> so unless anything else comes up, we can target a re-roll after gary's land his fix | |
| [16:38] <matsubara> deal | |
| [16:38] <flacoste> which should happen later this afternoon | |
| [16:39] <matsubara> so, anything else for LOSAs? | |
| [16:39] <matsubara> thanks herb, mthaddon | |
| [16:39] <matsubara> moving on | |
| [16:39] <matsubara> [topic] * DBA report (DBA contact) | |
| [16:39] <MootBot> New Topic: * DBA report (DBA contact) | |
| [16:39] <stub> Load on the db seems to have decreased a little after the rollout, although it is too early to tell for sure. Hopefully this is a sign of good work and not broken systems :) | |
| [16:39] <stub> The replicated staging db rebuild work has been done and awaiting review. I don't see any problems getting this landed and switched on Monday, time in London permitting. | |
| [16:39] <stub> Also in London, we need to find time with Mark to discuss some of the db design that was bounced this cycle (bzr Job system, milestone/productrelease linking). | |
| [16:39] <stub> fini. | |
| [16:40] <matsubara> all right. any questions for stub? | |
| [16:40] <danilos> what are you wearing? | |
| [16:40] <danilos> uhm, wrong channel | |
| [16:40] <danilos> ;) | |
| [16:40] <matsubara> heh | |
| [16:41] <matsubara> thanks stub | |
| [16:41] <matsubara> [topic] * QA Stats of the week | |
| [16:41] <MootBot> New Topic: * QA Stats of the week | |
| [16:41] <Ursinha> :) | |
| [16:41] <matsubara> so this is a new section, and I have no stats for this week | |
| [16:41] <matsubara> but the idea is to bring up some number about triage and needstesting items from the current week and last week | |
| [16:42] <matsubara> kinda show how we're progressing during the cycle | |
| [16:42] <matsubara> what you guys think? keep, bag, change? | |
| [16:42] <danilos> sounds nice, not sure how you are going to present it live :) | |
| [16:42] <danilos> maybe using a drawing board? | |
| [16:42] <Ursinha> danilos, never heard of ascii-art? :) | |
| [16:43] <matsubara> that's all from me. | |
| [16:43] <danilos> Ursinha: ascii-art is going to be a long stretch during Epic, though I'd like to see him try :) | |
| [16:43] <matsubara> danilos: I'll come up with a way :-) | |
| [16:43] <matsubara> or probably postpone it to the next IRC meeting :-) | |
| [16:43] <danilos> ok, thanks | |
| [16:43] <matsubara> ok, anything else before I close? | |
| [16:44] <Ursinha> not from me | |
| [16:44] <matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs. | |
| [16:44] <matsubara> #endmeeting | |
| [16:44] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:44. | |
| [16:44] <danilos> thank you as well, bye bye :) | |
| [16:44] <matsubara> just in time | |
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