| [08:19] <kwwii> moin | |
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| [16:59] <thorwil> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081013-german-court-google-image-thumbnails-infringe-on-copyright.html | |
| [17:00] <thorwil> i hope i will not have to look for other ways to get at reference pictures because of this judicial stupidity :/ | |
| [17:03] <kwwii> omg | |
| [17:03] <kwwii> that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard | |
| [17:43] <Nece228> finally ubuntu team changed intrepid wallpaper to a new and beautiful! | |
| [17:44] <kwwii> Nece228: you apparently missed the email I sent to the list | |
| [17:46] <Nece228> kwwii: what email? | |
| [17:46] <kwwii> I announced the new wallpaper on friday | |
| [17:47] <kwwii> rico sta. cruz made the new stuff....really nice, eh? | |
| [17:47] <Nece228> kwwii: i mean this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-8-10-Has-a-Brand-New-Wallpaper-95451.shtml | |
| [17:48] <kwwii> lol, I like how people take things that I said and quote them as if mark said them :-) | |
| [17:49] <kwwii> and post "news" without really trying to get to the real information | |
| [17:49] <Nece228> kwwii: this wallpaper is really nice | |
| [17:49] <kwwii> glad to hear that you like it! | |
| [17:49] <Nece228> kwwii: best of all ubuntu wallpapers, because we all are bored of simple abstract images | |
| [17:50] <kwwii> well, the heron was just as good (and not abstract either) | |
| [17:50] <kwwii> but I do agree with the over-use of abstract images | |
| [17:57] <Nece228> kwwii: heron is nice too but not as intrepid | |
| [18:01] <Nece228> kwwii: theres already thread in forum and all people agree that new wallpaper is nice | |
| [18:05] <Nece228> kwwii: but how about new theme? its still not deffered and theres no big progress | |
| [18:35] <hagabaka> hmm, i actually like http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu810alpha1-large_001.jpg | |
| [18:37] <Nece228> any news about new theme? | |
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| [20:48] <jws141> Hrm, murrine trunk seems a bit faster than the packaged engine for Intrepid, maybe a placebo effect? | |
| [20:48] <Cimi> jws141, I have rewritten the whole drawing code | |
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| [20:48] <Cimi> it should be faster | |
| [20:48] <dashua> Cimi: Very nice. | |
| [20:49] <dashua> Hopefully, it will get packaged for Intrepid. | |
| [20:49] <Cimi> http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/project/murrine/development | |
| [20:50] <dashua> It's noticeably faster, even w/ Compiz. | |
| [20:50] <dashua> :) | |
| [20:51] <dashua> Nice work mate. | |
| [20:51] <Nece228> let me see that... | |
| [20:52] <dashua> Getting a new snapshot packaged shouldn't be too hard, eh? | |
| [20:52] <dashua> The only issue with trunk, is all the older themes are written with style instead of profile. | |
| [20:53] <Nece228> dashua: where can i get murrine trunk? | |
| [20:53] <dashua> Not a hard fix in the gtkrc. | |
| [20:53] <dashua> Cimi: Any other way around that? | |
| [20:53] <dashua> Nece228: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk/murrine | |
| [20:54] <Nece228> dashua: The requested URL /svn/murrine/trunk/murrine was not found on this server. | |
| [20:54] <dashua> Nece228: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk/ murrine | |
| [20:54] <dashua> Nece228: Typo | |
| [20:54] <dashua> Second one | |
| [20:55] <Nece228> dashua: thanks, so i need download all source files? | |
| [20:55] <dashua> Yes | |
| [20:55] <dashua> ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --enable-animation. make, make install | |
| [20:57] <Nece228> dashua: oh man i need to press right mouse and download link | |
| [20:57] <Nece228> dashua: o | |
| [20:57] <Nece228> dashua: to every file | |
| [20:57] <dashua> Nece228: ? | |
| [20:57] <dashua> Do you have subversion installed? | |
| [20:58] <Nece228> dashua: its pretty long way to download all these files | |
| [20:58] <dashua> Run that command in a terminal | |
| [20:58] <dashua> It takes a few seconds to compile. | |
| [21:02] <Cimi> bb in 2 hours | |
| [21:02] <dashua> Cimi: Pz. | |
| [21:04] <kwwii> Cimi: is this the newest? | |
| [21:04] <kwwii> Last Changed Rev: 94 | |
| [21:04] <kwwii> Last Changed Date: 2008-10-11 14:51:01 +0200 (Sat, 11 Oct 2008) | |
| [21:05] <kwwii> stupid question perhaps, but before I do all this work I want to make sure | |
| [21:07] <kwwii> ok, I take that question back | |
| [21:25] <jws141> kwwii: 94 is the latest revision unless Cimi has something planned. | |
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| [21:26] <kwwii> dashua: yeah, I checked myself, kinda stupid question really | |
| [21:26] <dashua> Ha, np :) | |
| [21:27] <dashua> kwwii: Just watch the gtkrc's will not work because of that style-profile change a few revisions ago. | |
| [21:27] <dashua> Not a big deal to fix. | |
| [21:27] <kwwii> dashua: to be honest, I think that will be a deciding reason against using it | |
| [21:27] <kwwii> as anything anyone downloads will no longer work | |
| [21:27] <kwwii> fixing our few gtkrcs is easy | |
| [21:28] <dashua> There may be an easier workaround in the code, but I'm not sure of that. | |
| [21:28] <dashua> It's definitely faster. | |
| [21:29] <dashua> No real benchmark tests, just personal feel. | |
| [21:30] <dashua> Dust is just so sexxy with my laptop due the glossy screen. I can't wait to show it off at the nearest coffee shop. | |
| [21:30] <kwwii> hehe | |
| [21:31] <kwwii> I am trying to build a new package, we'll see what comes out of it | |
| [21:31] <kwwii> I can at least suggest it (and put it in my PPA) | |
| [21:31] <dashua> Nice | |
| [21:32] <kwwii> but every time I make a package for ubuntu out of the svn I find some new problem (I am not a developer anymore!) | |
| [21:32] <dashua> Cimi tweaked the contrast in the engine, so try experimenting with lower values. It look quite nice with Human. | |
| [21:33] <dashua> Ah | |
| [21:35] <dashua> Anyway, nice work altogether. I think Intrepid looks very sexxy. | |
| [21:38] <kwwii> I wish we could have done more radical changes, personally, but things take longer sometimes I guess | |
| [21:40] <kwwii> lol, I just found the most useless status icons ever....the bittorrent client | |
| [21:40] <dashua> I was reading a Linux magazine today about Mark Shuttleworth contributing to GNOME to make Ubuntu look on par or better than Apple. | |
| [21:41] <dashua> It will come, I'm sure. I think it looks quite good now. | |
| [21:41] <kwwii> yeah, we are hiring several people to form a team which can take something like that on | |
| [21:41] <dashua> Ha | |
| [21:42] <dashua> That is nice. | |
| [21:42] <kwwii> until now, I am the only person at the company doing all the work (packaging, bug fixing, and artwork for all of gtk/metacity/gdm/usplash, etc) | |
| [21:42] <dashua> Whoa, I bet you are busy. | |
| [21:43] <kwwii> being busy isn't the bad part...the bad thing is working on several different totally different aspects at the same time | |
| [21:44] <kwwii> and I do quite a bit more than just that...I also work on the mobile stuff, some marketing stuff, and every now and then a bit of the website graphics | |
| [21:44] <dashua> I am still very fond of the Human theme for nostalgic reasons, so I switch back every once and again. | |
| [21:44] <kwwii> and marketing graphics, and secret projects that never come to be, and, and, and | |
| [21:44] <kwwii> yeah, I really do like the ubuntulooks engine | |
| [21:44] <kwwii> I really like the scrollbars (the highlights are nice), and the progress bars | |
| [21:45] <dashua> I'm sure there is a lot of behind-the-scenes work the community does not realize. | |
| [21:46] <dashua> Deprecated, we should have an official funeral. | |
| [21:46] <kwwii> hehe, no doubt | |
| [21:46] <kwwii> I wish we would have paid Cimi to work on some stuff similar to that for murrine...even if it never made it into the official branch | |
| [21:47] <kwwii> but alas, until we have a team formed it seems things are somewhat on the back burner | |
| [21:48] <dashua> Hopefully, maybe for the next release or two for something more radical. | |
| [21:49] <dashua> People do not realize these changes take time, but I guess they are upset with being told of a new change. | |
| [21:50] <dashua> I actually saw a copy of Ubuntu 8.04 for sale today at Best Buy. Things are definitely progressing. | |
| [21:57] <kwwii> hehe, cool | |
| [21:57] <kwwii> sounds good :-) | |
| [22:04] <kwwii> time for sleep | |
| [22:04] <kwwii> have fun! | |
| [23:54] * Cimi -> bed | |