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[03:48] <boredandblogging> so whats going on with the fridge?
[03:48] <newz2000> we enabled launchpad auth and then Joey turned it off
[03:49] <boredandblogging> ah, ok
[03:50] <boredandblogging> and all the user accounts are gone?
[03:50] <newz2000> yes, they get recreated automatically on successful login
[03:50] <newz2000> do you need access to the admin area?
[03:50] <boredandblogging> newz2000: not at the moment, I was just going to login to post
[03:50] <newz2000> let me re-enable it
[03:50] <newz2000> once you login successfully I'll disable it again
[03:51] <newz2000> ok boredandblogging, go ahead and login
[03:51] <newz2000> use the button on the bottom left
[03:52] <boredandblogging> said I'm not authorized to access the page once I hit the button
[03:52] <boredandblogging> but it lets me see everything
[03:53] <newz2000> it says it worked, you should be logged in as an admin
[03:53] <boredandblogging> yeah, looks like it, thanks
[03:53] <newz2000> no prob
[03:53] <newz2000> let me know if anything is odd.
[03:53] <boredandblogging> will do
=== Rafik_ is now known as Rafik
[16:16] <tyche> Rinchen: What's up with the Fridge login? Suddenly I can't log in, either normally or through OpenID.
[16:17] <Rinchen> newz2000, ^^
[16:17] <tyche> The error it's giving me is: "Only site administrators can create new user accounts."
[16:17] <newz2000> tyche: yes, sorry, you weren't an admin so I deleted your account
[16:17] <newz2000> are you in the ubuntu-fridge group on launchpad?
[16:17] <tyche> Oops.
[16:18] <tyche> Hold on.
[16:18] <tyche> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fridge, look at the top name. Craig A. Eddy (tyche)
[16:19] <newz2000> I'll open up access again and we'll see what happens... just a sec
[16:19] <tyche> kk
[16:19] <newz2000> ok, try logging in
[16:20] <tyche> OK, now I'm in. Thanks.
[16:20] <tyche> Now, am I going to have to ask for access every time I need to work on it?
[16:20] <newz2000> no
[16:20] <tyche> OK, Thanks
[16:20] <newz2000> once you're in the first time it lets you have future access
[16:21] <newz2000> and you're an admin this time too. I wonder what happened before.
[16:21] <tyche> Well, my joining as an editor was only just a few days ago. Maybe that had something to do with it.
[16:30] <Rinchen> shouldn't have affected it tyche
[16:30] <Rinchen> I added you before we deployed the update
[16:30] <tyche> Well, it did. But it's straightened out, which is all I really care about.
[16:31] <tyche> No harm, no foul.
=== beuno is now known as beuno-lunch
=== beuno-lunch is now known as beuno
[18:40] <johnc4510-laptop> Rinchen: ping
[18:41] <johnc4510-laptop> you sent the fridge open id email to the -news list, that's for publishing the UWN on. did you mean to use the -news-team list?
[18:43] <Rinchen> uh
[18:43] <Rinchen> yes! the news-team
[18:43] <Rinchen> I can't keep those two mailing lists separate
[18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> Also, when i try to login i get this: Only site administrators can create new user accounts.
[18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[18:43] <Rinchen> I wanted to send it to just the fridge editors
[18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah, just a heads up
[18:43] <tyche> AH! Another one. Hee hee
[18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> hmmm
[18:43] <Rinchen> johnc4510, yeah there is an issue with the configuration
[18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[18:43] <tyche> That's 2 in one day, Rinchen
[18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[18:43] <Rinchen> apparently anyone can create userids so we've set a restriction on new accounts
[18:44] <johnc4510-laptop> sure
[18:44] <Rinchen> newz2000 was looking into it with the developer. The dev said he might have an answer for us tomorrow
[18:44] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i'm going to delete the email and let you resend it
[18:44] <johnc4510-laptop> cool
[18:44] <Rinchen> only newz2000 can do userid admin now
[19:09] <newz2000> Stu confirmed that my suggestion sounds best...
[19:09] <newz2000> hmm
[19:09] <newz2000> but it's tricky to implement
[19:09] * newz2000 checks something
[19:11] <newz2000> Rinchen: I suggest we turn it back on the way it was before
[19:11] <newz2000> registered users can't really do anything abd
[19:11] <newz2000> bad
[19:11] <newz2000> they can only "view uploaded files" and "access news feeds"
[19:11] * tyche watches newz2000 VERY CAREFULLY, to see what stumbling blocks he's going to face, now. Hee hee
[19:11] <newz2000> otherwise same as anonymous
[19:13] <tyche> BTW, newz2000, do you have anything to do with the Wiki? (as in the UWN). My browser has been set to auto-login to it for a long time. Suddenly today I had to go through the process again, through OpenID
[19:13] <newz2000> tyche: sorry, that's not me
[19:13] <newz2000> the canonical sysadmins probably
[19:13] <newz2000> regarding wikis I just help with the themes
[19:14] <tyche> Ah! Nothing to be sorry about. I do find it amusing that I'm suddenly having difficulties everywhere. Hee hee
[19:14] <newz2000> there are some growing pains associated with openid
[19:14] <newz2000> we use the openid 2.0 which is a bit different than openid in keys ways, and not as widely supported
[19:15] <tyche> Yea, but it IS a good idea.
[19:15] <tyche> I have NO problem with using it, in principle. It's just the practice, right now, that can get frustrating.
[19:16] <newz2000> tyche: I just looked and it says you're not an admin anymore.
[19:16] <newz2000> did you do anything weird?
[19:16] <tyche> Not an admin for what?
[19:16] <newz2000> fridge
[19:16] <Rinchen> newz2000, ok, do it
[19:17] <newz2000> done
[19:17] <newz2000> tyche: did you log out?
[19:17] <tyche> newz2000: I'm going to let you and Rinchen talk together for a while. He's the one that set up the account for me, on the 6th.
[19:18] <tyche> I logged out the last time that I was in, which was about an hour ago, or so.
[19:18] <newz2000> well, you logged into the fridge a bit ago and it made your account new from scratch (because I deleted your old one)
[19:18] <newz2000> you were an admin then
[19:18] <newz2000> but you're not now
[19:18] <newz2000> maybe logging out removes your permissions
[19:19] <tyche> GEE! newz2000. Got a phone number, so I can call you whenever I need to add an event to the calendar? LOL
[19:19] <newz2000> tyche: can you login again?
[19:19] <johnc4510-laptop> newz2000: i can't log into the fridge as an admin either :(
[19:19] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[19:19] <tyche> Sure. standby
[19:19] <newz2000> johnc4510-laptop: are you in the ubuntu-fridge group on launchpad?
[19:19] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[19:20] <tyche> I'm in.
[19:20] <newz2000> johnc4510-laptop: try again if you don't mind, and if it doesn't work, let me know what happens
[19:20] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[19:20] <newz2000> tyche: it gave you the admin permissions back
[19:20] <newz2000> so logging out strips them away
[19:20] <newz2000> very interesting
[19:20] <johnc4510-laptop> newz2000:
[19:20] <johnc4510-laptop> Sorry, unrecognized username or password.
[19:20] <tyche> Which might be good, so a "coat-tail rider" can't do anything nasty after I'm out.
[19:21] <newz2000> johnc4510-laptop: is this after you get bounced over to launchpad?
[19:21] <tyche> (Hmmm. I'm not sure *I* recognize johnc4510-laptop, either) Hee hee
[19:21] <newz2000> oh, johnc4510-laptop: are you clicking the login button on the bottom left?
[19:21] <johnc4510-laptop> no
[19:21] <newz2000> try that
[19:21] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[19:22] <tyche> newz2000: Can we identify those login buttons? Or pull the upper one and replace it? I can see where it could confuse a lot of people (Me included). :-)
[19:22] <johnc4510-laptop> newz2000: ok, that works and i have admin privelges
[19:22] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[19:22] <newz2000> cool
[19:22] <newz2000> tyche: there are more than one?
[19:23] <johnc4510-laptop> i only see one login button
[19:23] <tyche> There's one just in under the place to enter username and password that sends the "username or password not recognized", and there's the lower one that goes to OpenID
[19:23] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[19:24] <newz2000> oh, on the /user page ?
[19:24] <johnc4510-laptop> oh that's on the openid user page
[19:24] <tyche> Yep
[19:24] <johnc4510-laptop> not on the fridge login mail page
[19:24] <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/user
[19:24] <newz2000> well, the /user page is needed because super admin has to login there
[19:24] <newz2000> I wonder if there's a way to edit that page
[19:25] <tyche> It's drupal. there should be.
[19:25] <newz2000> well, if you're not logged in there's no edit button, and if you are logged in it bounces to your own page. :-/
[19:25] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: that's the page that's not working now for me. i can't log in there
[19:25] <johnc4510-laptop> only on the main page now
[19:26] <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: Go to the lower left, under the sidebar. There's a second login button there.
[19:26] <tyche> That's the one that goes to openID
[19:26] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, missed that one
[19:26] <tyche> Ah . . . What would you do without me. Hee hee
[19:27] <newz2000> I think we're going to have to educate users
[19:27] <tyche> OK, I'll go back down to Target and pick up an aluminum bat and some black paint (for the word "Clue")
[19:28] <johnc4510-laptop> actually i like this was better, i can login from the front page of the fridge now instead of having to go to the other page
[19:28] <johnc4510-laptop> saves a step for me
[19:29] <tyche> DANG! Why didn't *I* notice that. OK, so what would *I* do without you. LOL
[19:30] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[19:30] <johnc4510-laptop> i'm not _just_ a pretty face you know hee hee
[19:30] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, need to get some regular work done,bbl
[19:30] <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: You're NOT EVEN a pretty face. ROFL
[19:30] <johnc4510-laptop> :(
[19:32] <Rinchen> johnc4510 do you feel....lucky? ;-)
[19:32] <Rinchen> johnc4510, would you care to restate my email in the correct email list for me?
[19:33] <Rinchen> pointing out anything you learned today working with NewZ?
[19:33] <newz2000> Rinchen: I cc'd you and stu on an email with my enahncmenent suggestions
[19:34] <newz2000> I'm going to sign out from here and move on to my next project (intrepid download page)
[19:34] <newz2000> feel free to ping me if you need anything, I'm still on freenode
[19:53] <boredandblogging> sorry I'm late to this conversation, but are we leaving the login button on the front page?
[19:55] <tyche> The one on the front page goes to the OpenID login.
[19:55] <boredandblogging> hmmm
[19:55] <boredandblogging> the button is useless to 99.999% of the people who will visit the fridge
[19:55] <boredandblogging> it shouldn't be there
[19:56] <tyche> ROFLMAOPMP Oh, this channel is getting INTERESTING! LOL
[20:00] <boredandblogging> heh
[20:31] <Rinchen> you have email
[20:35] <Rinchen> boredandblogging, 2nd email send to you
[20:36] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: awesome, thanks
[20:38] <beuno> what happened to the pony!?
[21:00] <Rinchen> beuno, I upgraded our image :-D
[21:00] <beuno> more like downgraded...!
[21:00] <beuno> very cool we have openid now though
[21:05] <Rinchen> Quick beuno! What's the pony's name?
[21:05] <Rinchen> :-)
[21:05] <beuno> Woody!
[21:06] <tyche> Fred
[21:06] <beuno> I used him in 2 presentations already
[21:06] <Rinchen> good man!
[21:06] <beuno> see, I listen :)