| [00:00] <belgarath_> xxubuxx have you tried to run pppconfig? | |
| [00:00] <Zappza> I want to run Ubuntu from my USB stick, however it isn't big enough for it to install. Therefore I thought about xubuntu, The only question I have, is wether the Update Manager is the same in xubuntu as in Ubuntu? | |
| [00:00] <Zappza> And what are really the differences between the two versions? | |
| [00:00] <Zappza> I really miss a comparison table to be hones | |
| [00:00] <Zappza> honest* | |
| [00:01] <belgarath_> Zappza Yep, they work the same! | |
| [00:01] <belgarath_> Zappza: Xubuntu rules... :) | |
| [00:02] <Zappza> So the only difference is that xubuntu uses xfce instead of gnome? All the features are the same? | |
| [00:02] <xxubuxx> yes, but everything looks normal, except maybe the string in answer to "connect" in the advanced options, which is \d\c, but the lines of explanations say it should normally be void | |
| [00:03] <belgarath_> Zappza Yes! | |
| [00:04] <Zappza> Awesome :) | |
| [00:05] <Zappza> One more question; I have already configured several boot-cds for the ISOlinux bootloader, is it a problem to just use the same options in kernel and append in the GRUB bootloader which ubuntu uses? | |
| [00:05] <Zappza> I am planning to install xubuntu on the usb stick, and have options for booting some other live CD's in the same bootloader. | |
| [00:06] <Zappza> Sorry if some answers are a bit stupid, this is one of my first experiences with Linux :P | |
| [00:07] <belgarath_> xxubuxx Some modems need special AT-commands to work properly.... for example US Robotics (my own experience) !?! | |
| [00:08] <xxubuxx> i used a Trust modem, i don't know about the AT init string. but that wouldn't explain the first connection being LONG and then the next just hanging? | |
| [00:13] <belgarath_> xxubuxx Have you tried to decrease your cennection speed? if a lower connection speed works maybe you should try to find AT for your modem? Just a thought. | |
| [00:14] <xxubuxx> i just lowered the speed to 57600, i'll tell you in a few minutes :) also, i replaced the \d\c with nothing | |
| [00:14] <belgarath_> xxubuxx good luck! | |
| [00:17] <xxubuxx> thanks :) | |
| [00:18] <xxubuxx> :( | |
| [00:18] <xxubuxx> no luck | |
| [00:19] <xxubuxx> what did you say about lock-files? | |
| [00:19] <xxubuxx> belgarath_: ^^ | |
| [00:21] <belgarath_> xxubuxx I not 100% sure about Xubuntu but when I used ppp the ppp-connection always created a lock-file in /tmp and sometimes I had to remove these files by hand to get the ppp to work again | |
| [00:22] <xxubuxx> i'll check, thanks :) | |
| [00:23] <belgarath_> xxubuxx One curious question !?! Why are you still using modem? | |
| [00:24] <xxubuxx> it's a eee pc i'm using because my main machine died and i'm waiting for parts to arrive | |
| [00:25] <xxubuxx> err... where is /temp? :) | |
| [00:26] <zoredache_> /temp???? or /tmp | |
| [00:26] <xxubuxx> oops, /tmp, yes, sorry | |
| [00:26] <belgarath_> xxubuxx ok! :) | |
| [00:27] <xxubuxx> i'm a windows user, so i'm having trouble finding stuff in the hard drive with xubuntu | |
| [00:27] <belgarath_> xxubuxx dont forget to show hidden files as well! (Ctrl+h) | |
| [00:27] <xxubuxx> i have, but i still see no /tmp | |
| [00:28] <xxubuxx> ah, found it | |
| [00:28] <belgarath_> xxubuxx ok | |
| [00:28] <xxubuxx> belgarath_: what should i look for? | |
| [00:30] <belgarath_> xxubuxx i am not sure. but hey I can try it out on my eeepc wait a moment!!! | |
| [00:30] <xxubuxx> there is a "ior" file in "lock" in gconfd-my_user_name | |
| [00:31] <xxubuxx> thanks for being so helpful :) | |
| [00:34] <belgarath_> xxubuxx dont say hey to early, we have not solved anything yet! :) | |
| [00:34] <xxubuxx> yes, but still ;-) | |
| [00:35] <belgarath_> xxubuxx :) | |
| [00:37] <xxubuxx> is there a way to show the date of files in long format instead of just "today"? | |
| [00:41] <belgarath_> xxubuxx in thunar Ctrl+2 | |
| [00:41] <belgarath_> xxubuxx = detail view in explorer | |
| [00:42] <xxubuxx> hmmm | |
| [00:43] <xxubuxx> well, i can't get the date in 2008-10-10, but i can live with that i guess | |
| [00:44] <belgarath_> xxubuxx i dont think you have problem with the lock file because you get online, right !?! | |
| [00:45] <xxubuxx> i do... for 5 or 6 minutes, even though i'm doing NOTHING | |
| [00:46] <belgarath_> xxubuxx ok then I am 100% sure you dont have a problem with a lock-file | |
| [00:46] <xxubuxx> maybe i could paste my pppd config file somewhere so that it can be screened by experts? if only i knew how to find it | |
| [00:46] <belgarath_> xxubuxx yeah.. good idea... | |
| [00:47] * xxubuxx needs guidance to do that :( | |
| [00:48] <belgarath_> xxubuxx ok. wait I have to find it first! :) | |
| [00:48] <xxubuxx> hihihihi | |
| [00:49] <belgarath_> xxubuxx I believe it should be in /etc/ppp | |
| [00:49] * xxubuxx looks | |
| [00:54] <belgarath_> xxubuxx I dont think I can help you more.... try to find a AT INIT command for your modem and if you send files to gurus dont send pap-secrets without edit because it stores your user/pass in cleartext. Good luck! | |
| [00:56] <xxubuxx> thanks for everything, belgarath_ :) | |
| [00:56] <belgarath_> xxubuxx nice chatting with you... bye! | |
| [00:58] <xxubuxx> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/548632 this is my ppp config file | |
| [00:59] <xxubuxx> if anyone feels like taking a look | |
| [04:02] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know if a Fujitsu B6110D will work with Ubuntu? | |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | |
| [05:58] <threa1> hi all, I | |
| [05:59] <threa1> m surre this is an often asked question, but internet searching hasn | |
| [05:59] <threa1> t helped me out. | |
| [05:59] <threa1> (blated apostrophee/enter) | |
| [05:59] <threa1> i can adjust the acceleration behaviour of the mouse in 'mouse settings' | |
| [05:59] <threa1> however, is there any way to adjust the linear sensitivity of the mouse? | |
| [06:08] <homebrewcider> can anyone help please, have a friends computer fired up with a xubuntu live cd so we can get into his HDD, bloody windows and virus, need to access the data on there from my computer | |
| [06:10] <threa1> whree have ou got stuck? | |
| [06:10] <homebrewcider> that's all I've done | |
| [06:10] <homebrewcider> need to know how to access it, to copy data across | |
| [06:11] <homebrewcider> it's connected to the home network | |
| [06:11] <homebrewcider> as am I | |
| [06:14] <threa1> can you access your other computers (full) shared folder? | |
| [06:14] <threa1> if your liv disc can see your networked computer, you;re home | |
| [06:14] <threa1> just mount the hard drive you need to get stuff from and copy | |
| [06:23] <homebrewcider> can't seem to access other computer, on the other computer I mounted the HDD okay, but can't seem to access it from this one | |
| [06:27] <threa1> to be honest, Im pretty new to XFCE | |
| [06:27] <threa1> more experienced with rescuing iwth kde | |
| [06:28] <threa1> and new to *buntu too | |
| [06:28] <threa1> so Im not sure exactly how to get samba(if that's what you | |
| [06:28] <threa1> re using) | |
| [06:28] <threa1> just right | |
| [06:28] <threa1> the other way to do it | |
| [06:28] <threa1> is copy to a USB stick or HDD using your live cd | |
| [06:28] <homebrewcider> yeah, that's a last resort | |
| [06:29] <homebrewcider> trying to do it right for starters | |
| [06:29] <threa1> hehe | |
| [06:29] <threa1> is your other computer linux or windows | |
| [06:29] <threa1> the working one? | |
| [06:30] <threa1> either way, if sharing is a problem between the two | |
| [06:30] <threa1> you can start an SSH server on the live CD compy | |
| [06:30] <threa1> then ssh in from your working one | |
| [06:30] <threa1> and ccopy files through that | |
| [06:30] <threa1> if you | |
| [06:30] <threa1> you're un windows, winscp is pretty easy | |
| [06:31] <threa1> filemanager and ssh client in one | |
| [06:31] <threa1> (sorry about the typos, am new to this eee keyboard) | |
| [06:32] <homebrewcider> my comp-good one linux, other-trashed windows running live cd | |
| [06:37] <threa1> ok | |
| [06:37] <threa1> also to be honest, i only have one linux box | |
| [06:37] <threa1> so i | |
| [06:37] <threa1> ve never had to share linux to linux so far | |
| [06:37] <threa1> (but will change now :D) | |
| [06:37] <threa1> but what do you think of the ssh option? | |
| [06:40] <knome> ssh is overkill in LAN shares | |
| [06:40] <knome> you'll almost never need secure transfers | |
| [06:41] <knome> and ecnrypting takes bandwidth = slower speeds | |
| [06:41] <homebrewcider> so any advice knome? | |
| [06:41] <threa1> knome: correct | |
| [06:41] <threa1> I | |
| [06:41] <threa1> m just more familiar with ssh :$ | |
| [06:42] <threa1> in any case | |
| [06:42] <threa1> new kernel time | |
| [06:42] <threa1> see you gyus round | |
| [06:45] <homebrewcider> any ideas? | |
| [06:46] <knome> homebrewcider, hmm. | |
| [06:47] <knome> can you wait a sec | |
| [06:47] <homebrewcider> ok | |
| [06:51] <knome> !samba | |
| [06:51] <ubottu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 | |
| [06:51] <knome> you have read that? | |
| [06:52] <knome> homebrewcider, | |
| [06:53] <homebrewcider> checking | |
| [06:54] <homebrewcider> other computer is a windows computer but runninga linux live cd atm | |
| [06:54] <homebrewcider> that is the dilemna | |
| [06:55] <knome> so do you need temporary or permanent solution? | |
| [06:55] <knome> yes, samba is windows file sharing on a linux computer | |
| [06:55] <homebrewcider> temp | |
| [06:56] <knome> well i'd suggest a usb stick then, if you have one | |
| [06:56] <homebrewcider> just to get the files off to copy and burn, then nuke the other computer | |
| [06:56] <homebrewcider> gonna take ages via usb | |
| [06:56] <knome> how much? | |
| [06:56] <homebrewcider> would prefer to access via network and drag over | |
| [06:56] <knome> how much data do you have? | |
| [06:57] <homebrewcider> 30gig + | |
| [06:57] <knome> k... | |
| [06:57] <homebrewcider> photos, docs etc | |
| [07:00] <knome> and what is actually the problem, can't you get samba installed or...? | |
| [07:03] <homebrewcider> how do I install it on the live cd computer? | |
| [07:06] <knome> normally? | |
| [07:07] <homebrewcider> sudo apt-get? | |
| [07:08] <knome> for example | |
| [07:09] <homebrewcider> says already newest version | |
| [07:09] <knome> then you have it | |
| [07:10] <homebrewcider> but running command samba does nothing | |
| [07:10] <knome> try applications -> system -> shared folders | |
| [07:12] <homebrewcider> ok, folder is "shared" now | |
| [07:15] <homebrewcider> can I mount it now | |
| [07:22] <yinoneh> hi, just installed xubuntu-desktop, but it stuck on log-in. any ideas how to debug it ? thanks ! | |
| [07:23] <Travelerxxx> Hallelujja testverek | |
| [10:57] <jean-louis> each time I boot on xubuntu I have to write compiz & to have windows borders | |
| [10:58] <jean-louis> how to solve this problem ? | |
| [10:58] <TheSheep> !compiz | |
| [10:58] <ubottu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion | |
| [11:15] <jean-louis_> i can't synchronise the time, I choose a server but it doesn't work | |
| [11:20] <jean-louis_> i can't synchronise the time, I choose a server but it doesn't work | |
| === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen | |
| [12:13] <yinoneh> hi, just installed xubuntu-desktop, but it stuck on log-in. any ideas how to debug/solve it ? thanks ! | |
| [12:41] <cody-somerville> yinoneh, how exactly is it stuck? | |
| [12:49] <yinoneh> cody-somerville: upon hitting the 'Enter' on login, I see an empty screen | |
| [12:50] <cody-somerville> yinoneh, At the login screen, click "sessions" | |
| [12:50] <cody-somerville> and then select xfce4 | |
| [12:50] <cody-somerville> and then click oaky | |
| [12:50] <cody-somerville> then login (make sure to click make xfce4 the default) | |
| [12:50] <cody-somerville> and it should work | |
| [12:50] <yinoneh> let me test (will logout gnome). Thanks | |
| [14:06] <homebrewcider> anybody used lanshark? | |
| [14:06] <TeXnicer> hm, the developer? | |
| [14:06] <homebrewcider> file sharing program | |
| [14:06] <TheSheep> !anyone | |
| [14:06] <ubottu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | |
| [14:08] <homebrewcider> anyone have any idea on how to use it, I can browse the folder I want to download from on the other computer, but when I click "download to" and click on a location, it says, "download complete" but it ain't where I wanted it | |
| === coldhak is now known as Pete_I | |
| === Pete_I is now known as coldhak | |
| [15:25] <sunsetloungejc> who can help me with a broken system? | |
| [15:26] <sunsetloungejc> simple question...if I reinstall from the "Recover" function on the CD, will I lose my data files? | |
| [15:34] <sunsetloungejc> anybody home? | |
| [15:36] <coldhak> if you're removing the partition or some such, yes | |
| [15:36] <coldhak> should be able to reinstall just fine as long as you don't mess with your data partition. best back it up to be safe though | |
| [15:38] <coldhak> if your data files are on the same partition as everything else, then yes, you'll lose it when you reinstall | |
| [15:40] <sunsetloungejc> ok, quick ?....i've been tols that if I "sudo rm /home/username/.session" and rebbot, that gthis will fix the problem....correct? | |
| [16:17] <sunsetloungejc> anybody here? | |
| [16:18] <vinnl> !ask | |
| [16:18] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | |
| [16:18] <vinnl> Yep :) | |
| [16:18] <sunsetloungejc> .i removed /.xsession*, but that did not fix the problem. I still get same message: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default. mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission Denied. | |
| [16:19] <vinnl> When do you get that? | |
| [16:19] <sunsetloungejc> on boot-up, after splash screen | |
| [16:20] <TheSheep> let me guess, you removed writing rights to the /tmp directory? | |
| [16:20] <sunsetloungejc> well, not sure. "trying" to get Apache/mysql/Joomla installed...so probably | |
| [16:21] <TheSheep> sunsetloungejc: what does 'ls -ald /tmp' say? | |
| [16:21] <sunsetloungejc> 1 sec | |
| [16:23] <sunsetloungejc> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-10-7 | |
| [16:24] <jean-louis> hi | |
| [16:26] <Ahtenus> How can I see shared folders in a windows network? | |
| [16:29] <sunsetloungejc> Sheep, any hope for me? | |
| [16:30] <favro> sunsetloungejc: I get - drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 4096 2008-10-08 01:26 /tmp - so you need to add rights back for group and others | |
| [16:30] <TheSheep> sunsetloungejc: sudo chmod +t /tmp | |
| [16:30] <TheSheep> sunsetloungejc: should help | |
| [16:30] <sunsetloungejc> u RAWK!!! | |
| [16:30] <TheSheep> and maybe sudo chmod a+rwx /tmp | |
| [16:30] <TheSheep> but that +t is important | |
| [16:31] <sunsetloungejc> 'k | |
| [16:31] <sunsetloungejc> now reboot? | |
| [16:32] <favro> a login should work | |
| [16:32] <sunsetloungejc> :-X | |
| [16:34] <sunsetloungejc> Whew! I can live another day! (saved our daughter's pix) | |
| [16:34] <sunsetloungejc> THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! | |
| [16:35] <jean-louis> it there an easy way to add an application which is in a sub-menu on the desk bar ? | |
| [16:35] <jean-louis> it's doesn't look possible to just drag and drop the icon of an application | |
| [16:36] <sunsetloungejc> one more thing....(should be even simpler.... | |
| [16:36] <sunsetloungejc> I mistakenly unzipped some files to the /home/user folder. and I can't remove them | |
| [16:39] <TheSheep> sunsetloungejc: run thunar with 'gksu thunar' | |
| [16:40] <sunsetloungejc> ok | |
| [16:40] <sunsetloungejc> so i can now remove them? | |
| [16:43] <sunsetloungejc> u ARE the Xubuntu Guru! :-D forgive my newbie-ness | |
| [16:45] <TheSheep> sunsetloungejc: careful with that axe, Eugene | |
| [16:45] <Wrinkliez> is there any application that will uninstall any files or packages that came with a file? it seems that whenever i do basic removal in add/remove, it doesn't clear all the files it installed | |
| [16:47] <sunsetloungejc> Sheep...yes, sir. Absoultely, sir. No excuses, sir. | |
| [16:49] <sbarg> Wrinkliez: if you're OK with the command line, try "apt-get autoremove". From the apt-get man page... "autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed. | |
| [16:52] <favro> I've found sudo apt-get --purge package works the best | |
| [17:02] <Wrinkliez> o okay | |
| [17:02] <Wrinkliez> thanks sbarg | |
| [17:02] <Wrinkliez> and favro :) | |
| [18:17] <jean-louis> it worked perfect, thanks a lot | |
| [19:35] <Ahtenus> So i want to connect my laptop with ati card to my tv via S-video how do i do that? | |
| [19:44] <Ahtenus> Too bad no one here :( | |
| [19:44] <bytor4232> Ahtenus: first you need the right cable. | |
| [19:44] <bytor4232> Ahtenus: Then you can use xrandr to span your desktop onto the tv card. | |
| [19:44] <bytor4232> Ahtenus: Or you can cold-boot your laptop with the cable plugged in and it should show up on your TV. | |
| [19:44] <bytor4232> Ahtenus: At least thats how it works for me. | |
| [19:45] <Ahtenus> ok I'll try rebooting.. | |
| [19:46] <bytor4232> Darnit | |
| [19:46] <bytor4232> I said cold boot. A warm reboot won't cut it in most cases. | |
| [19:46] <bytor4232> Power off then back on. | |
| [20:21] <cruzer> everytime i put in a cd (xubuntu/ubuntu/arch) it will go into the setup but it will either say that there is an error with the disk,"nobody cares", or just freeze | |
| [20:22] <cruzer> ah | |
| [20:22] <cruzer> anyone ever had a problem like this | |
| [20:25] <belgarath_> cruzer: Are you trying to boot xubuntu from a cd? | |
| [20:25] <cruzer> im trying to use the alternative install | |
| [20:25] <cruzer> xubuntu says error cd | |
| [20:26] <cruzer> i burned it a few times | |
| [20:26] <cruzer> slow | |
| [20:26] <cruzer> on different cd's | |
| [20:26] <knome> does other cds work well? | |
| [20:26] <knome> (with the same drive) | |
| [20:26] <belgarath_> ok.. and you are sure that you have a working cd/dvd-player !? | |
| [20:27] <cruzer> well | |
| [20:27] <cruzer> i was able to use the windows xp installer | |
| [20:27] <cruzer> and install xp on it | |
| [20:27] <cruzer> with a cd | |
| [20:28] <belgarath_> ok... sounds weird. and your cdrom is a normal ide-drive ? | |
| [20:29] <cruzer> well, its a laptop | |
| [20:29] <cruzer> so i dont quite no | |
| [20:29] <cruzer> *know | |
| [20:33] <belgarath_> hm... this is a tricky one.... maybe try to disable/enable dma in bios. can you boot on usb? maybe you should try to put xubuntu on a usb-stick and install from that. | |
| [20:33] <cruzer> yeah i was thinking about that | |
| [20:33] <cruzer> would www.pendrivelinux.com be a good place to start? | |
| [20:37] <bytor4232> I still think its a little non-intuitive to add a blank launcher, and have to fill it in manually or with appfinder. | |
| [20:37] <bytor4232> er | |
| [20:37] <bytor4232> sorry | |
| [20:37] <bytor4232> wrong channel. | |
| [20:49] <thinkmassive_> cruzer, did you check the md5sum of the iso? | |
| [20:50] <thinkmassive_> maybe the download just got corrupted | |
| [20:51] <cruzer> 4 in a row? | |
| [20:54] <cruzer> oh wait | |
| [20:54] <cruzer> how awesome is that | |
| [20:55] <cruzer> xubuntu has wubi | |
| [20:55] <cruzer> ill installfrom windows | |
| [21:06] <nnull> im trying to use vino, do i need to run a command after i use vino-preferences to start the server or? | |
| [21:20] <centaur5> It appears that Xubuntu ins't much lighter than Ubuntu. Is there something else that can be done or would I need a different distro for 450 mhz and 128 ram? | |
| [21:25] <Genelyk> ram very slow | |
| [21:25] <Genelyk> test fluxbuntu :) | |
| [21:25] <Odd-rationale> centaur5: or try puppylinux... | |
| [21:26] <centaur5> Thanks, I have a bunch of old machines to fix up and donate and Xubuntu still doesn't run so well. | |
| [21:28] <centaur5> Just out of curiosity. I thought Xubuntu was the answer to 98 being discontinued. Since it still requires basically as much RAM as Ubuntu what do you gain with Xubuntu? | |
| [21:29] <TheSheep> it runs faster with that ram | |
| [21:29] <TheSheep> plus it uses xfce, which is preferred by many people | |
| [21:29] <TheSheep> just because it's xfce | |
| [21:30] <Genelyk> xubuntu is fasted with 256 ram | |
| [21:30] <zoredache> I don't know, it seemes faster with 4GB :p | |
| [21:30] <centaur5> Okay, I guess I'll continue looking into Fluxbuntu then cause it still takes so long to even browse the web. | |
| [21:30] <Genelyk> for 128 ram is fluxbox :) , | |
| [21:32] <centaur5> Do you think I can still network install Fluxbuntu and does it still use Ubuntu mirrors? | |
| [21:33] <Genelyk> mmm | |
| [21:35] <Genelyk> or test antixmepis 7,5, is based in debian and attach synaptic | |
| [21:37] <centaur5> Hmm...I don't think people would understand how fluxbox works looking at screenshots. | |
| [21:37] <zoredache> you might get better answers about fluxbuntu on #fluxbuntu | |
| [21:38] <centaur5> Thanks for your help. | |
| [21:38] <zoredache> you could also look at jwm, or fvwm | |
| [21:58] <floating> my full screen on youtube and others is not really a full screen | |
| [21:58] <floating> the actual window with picture is almost smaller than default youtube pic, and the sides are just filled with white color | |