2008/10/06/#launchpad.txt

[00:00] <NCommander> oh, ok
[00:00] <NCommander> I assume you have devscripts installed?
[00:00] <mtah> yes
[00:00] <NCommander> in the source directory, type dch -i
[00:00] <NCommander> THis will pop up an editor with a new changelog entry already added
[00:00] <NCommander> Type in something like "Rebuild for Hardy" in the changelog
[00:01] <mtah> neat
[00:01] <mtah> :)
[00:01] <NCommander> Then on the versioning string, you'll see something ending in -2ubuntu1, change that to -2~ppa1
[00:01] <NCommander> And make sure the series (which is right after the version says hardy)
[00:01] <mtah> ok
[00:02] <NCommander> Save and exit
[00:02] <NCommander> DO you know if this package will build out of the box?
[00:02] <NCommander> (i.e., does it build correctly on hardy?)
[00:02] <NCommander> oh, as a second note, make sure your username and email is right in the changelog (just open it with nano debian/changelog or some other editor)
[00:02] <mtah> yes it builds
[00:03] <NCommander> (it needs to match what your GPG key says)
[00:03] <mtah> the version just ends with ubuntu1, not -2ubuntu1
[00:04] <NCommander> Just remove the ubuntu part of it ;-)
[00:04] <mtah> NCommander: got it
[00:04] <NCommander> The reason you need the ~ppa1 at the end is because if the package is ever added to the Ubuntu repositories, you want upgrades to work sanely
[00:05] <mtah> so it's the latest changelog entry that debuild looks at when trying to sign?
[00:05] <NCommander> Yup
[00:05] <NCommander> So it should be *your GPG Key Name* <*your GPG key email*>
[00:06] <NCommander> Once your done
[00:06] <NCommander> run debuild -S; it will prompt for your GPG key to sign the package once your done
[00:11] <NCommander> mtah, once that's done, simply upload the new changes to your PPA :-)
[00:11] <mtah> :) Launchpad is pretty impressive
[00:12] <mtah> and by that I mean awesome
[00:12] <mtah> but it's not approving of my trailer line in the changelog
[00:13] <NCommander> \o\
[00:13] <NCommander> Launchpad is a combination of awesome and frustrating at times
[00:16] <mtah> NCommander: does this look alright? http://pastie.org/285535
[00:17] <NCommander> It can't linewrap
[00:17] <NCommander> The final line has to be one line :-)
[00:17] <NCommander> (which is why it likely rejected)
[00:17] <mtah> d'oh of course not
[00:17] <NCommander> You need to run debuild -S -sa
[00:18] <NCommander> (since the package isn't in ubuntu, the source isn't handy, so you need to include it)
[00:25] <mtah> NCommander: Success! So now I only have to wait until the "Pending" status is gone?
[00:26] <NCommander> Its 20 minutes from upload before the source is available
[00:26] <NCommander> And 20 minutes from when the binaries are built to when they are available
[00:26] <WillPittenger> Why doesn't Launchpad's bug tracking system have a quick link to a list of bugs that I am involved in for a project?
[00:27] <WillPittenger> I was expecting a tabbed system with bugs filed by me in one tab and those assigned to me or simply that I am subscribed to in another.
[00:27] <beuno> WillPittenger, it should. Feel free to file a bug requesting it, it's been talked about quite a few times, but I'm not sure if there's a bug open for it yet
[00:27] <beuno> you have that, just not per-project
[00:28] <beuno> but it would be very useful
[00:28] <WillPittenger> Where?
[00:28] <beuno> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[00:28] <mtah> NCommander: Ok. Thanks for all your help, really appreciated! :)
[00:28] <WillPittenger> No.
[00:28] <NCommander> No problem
[00:28] <WillPittenger> Where is the list of bugs?
[00:28] <beuno> WillPittenger, go to your user page, click on the "Bugs: tab
[00:28] <beuno> "Bugs"
[00:29] <beuno> and, on your right side, you have a few filters
[00:29] <beuno> List assigned bugs, List commented bugs, etc
[00:30] <WillPittenger> I haven't found it yet.
[00:31] <WillPittenger> I also appear to have been unsuccessful changing my image.
[00:34] <WillPittenger> Now I found it.  I was looking at it like it was a project bug tab.
[00:34] <WillPittenger> Confusing at best.  I think the user name should be a drop down listing stuff like that.
[00:35] <WillPittenger> Then change the CSS to keep users from thinking they are looking at a project page.
[00:55] <markh> I'm pretty sure I know the answer: but is there any way to force a cvs import to store windows-style line endings in the bzr branch it creates?  Until bzr itself gets some support for platform line endings, I'm guessing I'm kinda screwed though...
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[09:10] <NCommander> cprov & bigjools & kiko: I've got a hypothetical about Soyuz that needs to be asked. Any of you around?
[09:10] <bigjools> NCommander: shoot
[09:10] <NCommander> bigjools, is it possible for a package in a released distribution to be promoted to main
[09:10] <NCommander> And not break everything to high heaven?
[09:11] <bigjools> NCommander: I don't think that can happen in a released distro, no
[09:11] <NCommander> bigjools, this is from a techological standpoint, right? (I'm just asking to see if I can get the archive admins to bump a package to main to resolve a bug in xfprint)
[09:13] <bigjools> NCommander: the issue is that once a distroseries goes to release, the release pocket is frozen so no changes can be made in it
[09:13] <NCommander> bigjools, could we do it via -updates?
[09:14] <NCommander> bigjools, i.e., upload a new version to updates, and then bump that package to main?
[09:14] <bigjools> theoretically, yes, but I'm not sure if the distro team can do that
[09:14] <bigjools> you might want to catch up with them
[09:14] <NCommander> bigjools, well, we needed to find out first if Soyuz could possibly do it
[09:17] <bigjools> NCommander: I'm pretty sure it's ok as long as the release pocket is not involved.  apt-get should cope, right?
[09:17] <NCommander> If apt sees multiple versions of a package in multiple sources, whichever one is highest should one
[09:17] <bigjools> indeed
[09:18] <NCommander> s/one/win
[09:18] <NCommander> whoops
[09:18] <NCommander> Wrong shortcut key
[09:18] <NCommander> I just have that weird feeling I can see things exploding in a giant fireball of fury
[09:18]  * bigjools also curses ctrl-q being next to ctrl-w
[09:18] <NCommander> bigjools, can a promotion to main be done in a pocket without effecting the entire series?
[09:20]  * NCommander is just trying to preventively prevent the destruction of Launchpad :-)
[09:22] <bigjools> NCommander: what do you mean by affecting the entire series?
[09:22] <NCommander> Well
[09:22] <NCommander> If you promote a package in RELEASE pocket, it also promotes it in UPDATES and BACKPORTS
[09:22] <NCommander> I'm curious if that works in reverse
[09:23] <bigjools> NCommander: mmm I don't know
[09:23] <NCommander> Care to test on dogfood :-)
[09:23] <NCommander> (I figure its better then testing it when/if this motion gets approved, and the archive self-destructs)
[09:24] <bigjools> NCommander: ok pick me a package in a released distroseries
[09:24] <bigjools> I'll override it on dogfood
[09:24] <NCommander> hello
[09:24] <NCommander> :-)
[09:24] <NCommander> That's an easy one
[09:24] <bigjools> well
[09:25] <NCommander> bigjools, https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/hello
[09:25] <NCommander> oh
[09:25] <NCommander> You need one from universe
[09:25] <NCommander> d'oh
[09:25] <bigjools> :)
[09:25] <bigjools> xfprint? :)
[09:25] <NCommander> a2ps
[09:25] <NCommander> THat's what needs to be promoted anyway
[09:26] <NCommander> Might as well see how badly the archive implodes
[09:26] <bigjools> ok
[09:26] <NCommander> (generally speaking, we probably should have a package in -updates to test what this realistically will look like)
[09:26]  * bigjools kicks the dog
[09:26]  * NCommander watches the dog kick back
[09:27] <bigjools> it's low on memory so the first request in a while makes it grind when stuff is paged
[09:27] <NCommander> Er, did you change a2ps?
[09:27] <bigjools> not yet
[09:27] <NCommander> There is no package in -updates
[09:27] <NCommander> WHich is what we need to test
[09:27] <NCommander> (that a change in the updates pocket won't break release pocket)
[09:28] <bigjools> I can override universe/release to updates/main
[09:28] <NCommander> And that will do the right thing?
[09:28] <bigjools> let's see
[09:28] <NCommander> (what we're expecting to do is upload a package to updates/universe, and then get it promoted there)
[09:28] <bigjools> ok
[09:29] <NCommander> I'd upload to dogfood, but I'm not a core developer ;.;
[09:29] <bigjools> find one that fits the bill while I try this
[09:29] <NCommander> Sure
[09:29]  * NCommander looks at gutsy-updates
[09:30] <bigjools> NCommander: meh, I can't move pockets, d'oh
[09:30] <NCommander> o_o;
[09:31] <NCommander> so does this mean this plan wont' work?
[09:31] <bigjools> NCommander: well let's try one in -updates
[09:31] <NCommander> yeah, looking
[09:32] <NCommander> Oh that's anonying
[09:32] <NCommander> The dogfood snapshot is too old to have a bunch of these updates
[09:32] <bigjools> yeah it's 2+ months old now
[09:32] <NCommander> https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi - bingo
[09:33] <NCommander> oh wait
[09:33] <NCommander> nm
[09:33] <bigjools> lol
[09:33] <NCommander> why is that in gutsy-updates/universe/Packages.gz o_o;
[09:33] <NCommander> https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/basket - FINALLY
[09:34] <bigjools> ok
[09:34]  * NCommander always wonders what the archive admin interface looks like
[09:34] <bigjools> scripts :)
[09:35] <NCommander> I thought there was some things that could be done by the web interface
[09:35] <NCommander> Such as promotions/demotions
[09:35] <bigjools> only the queues
[09:35] <bigjools> ok check it out
[09:35] <bigjools> I will re-publish
[09:35] <bigjools> it will take a while
[09:35] <NCommander> check what out?
[09:35] <bigjools> the url you just pasted
[09:35] <NCommander> Cool, it got promoted
[09:36] <NCommander> now the question is does the backend glue do the right thing :-)
[09:38] <NCommander> bigjools, dogfood is awesome; all my LP bugs now have backtraces attached :-)
[09:38] <bigjools> NCommander: ahem :/
[09:38] <NCommander> Is that a bad thing?
[09:39] <bigjools> config foobar, it should not happen, I'll be turning that off :)
[09:39] <NCommander> bigjools, argh. kiko wasn't concerned about backtraces being public
[09:39] <NCommander> oh well
[09:40] <NCommander> So much for useful bug reports
[09:40] <bigjools> really?
[09:40] <NCommander> yeah
[09:40] <NCommander> passwords and such are censored
[09:40] <NCommander> So there isn't much of a security risk
[09:40] <bigjools> well, don't rely on dogfood for bug reports please, it's rarely running the latest code
[09:40] <NCommander> Well, I found the bug on production
[09:40] <NCommander> (edge actually)
[09:40] <NCommander> Then reproduced
[09:40] <NCommander> and dogfoods code is new enough; it has black icons ;.;
[09:41] <bigjools> when you cause an oops on production/edge, we can see the stack trace in our reports
[09:41] <bigjools> even if you can't
[09:41] <bigjools> so you just need to reference the oops number
[09:41] <LarstiQ> right, webfacing tracebacks don't sound too useful
[09:41] <bigjools> dogfood also often has highly experimental code on it
[09:42] <NCommander> Ok, point taken ;-)
[09:42] <NCommander> (this bug didn't generate an OOPS)
[09:42] <NCommander> Two bugs actually, one was a DoS, and one was an annoyance
[09:43] <NCommander> bigjools, so at least we know that Launchpad won't self-destruct if we promote in a pocket
[09:43] <bigjools> NCommander: right, the publisher has finished and it was ok
[09:43] <NCommander> cool
[09:43] <NCommander> So you proved it was possible
[09:44] <NCommander> Now I get to try and make my case to u-devel
[09:44] <NCommander> \o/!
[09:44] <bigjools> you're welcome
[09:44] <NCommander> bigjools, well, if launchpad didn't do the right thing, picture how ugly it would be to fix
[09:45] <bigjools> NCommander: no more so than the other crises we deal with :)
[09:45] <bigjools> but thanks for asking about this
[09:45] <NCommander> bigjools, I can picture it. Like a bad code upload causes the buildds to rm -r their chroots ;-)
[09:46] <bigjools> that would be ok, the chroots are in the librarian :)
[09:46] <NCommander> Ooooh
[09:46] <NCommander> Maybe you can help me with this then
[09:46] <NCommander> Can you find me the chroot for intrepid or hardy? We have a failure that only occurs on the actual buildds (doesn't happen in sbuild/pbuilder)
[09:46] <NCommander> bigjools, cprov wasn't able to find it when I asked him :-/
[09:47] <bigjools> NCommander: I'll get back to you on that
[09:47] <NCommander> If it can be done, it would be awesome. I know something similar happened back in gutsy and a chroot was made available via librarian
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[10:41] <NCommander> bigjools, I need help, I have no life :-)
[10:41] <NCommander> How can I resolve?
[10:42]  * NCommander is shot
[10:42] <NCommander> j/j
[10:42] <NCommander> er jk
[10:47]  * bigjools furrows brow
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[12:35] <wgrant> bigjools: Any idea how I access a branch through launchpadlib?
[12:36] <bigjools> wgrant: I don't, but I can find out
[12:36] <wgrant> They're exposed in the API, but there's no obvious way to get to them.
[12:36] <wgrant> bigjools: That's what I was hoping. Thanks.
[12:40] <bigjools> wgrant: you could use Launchpad.load(), thinking about it
[12:41] <wgrant> bigjools: My launchpadlib doesn't seem to know about that. Is it a new feature?
[12:41] <kiko> shouldn't be, wgrant
[12:41] <bigjools> and project seems to have a branches_collection_link
[12:42] <wgrant> bigjools: Ahh, I was trying to navigate to branches directly. I guess I could use that. Thanks.
[12:42] <bigjools> np
[12:43] <bigjools> wgrant: see "persistent references" in https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib for the load() call
[12:45] <wgrant> bigjools: Still doesn't work, but going through the project should be fine.
[12:45] <bigjools> okay
[12:46] <kiko> wgrant, is it worth filing a bug or asking a question about that I wonder
[12:46] <wgrant> kiko: I suspect I'm using a very old version (the one in Intrepid).
[12:47] <kiko> wgrant, hmmm. can you confirm that? because if so we should definitely get it upgraded in Intrepid
[12:47] <wgrant> 0.1~bzr7-0ubuntu1
[12:48] <wgrant> We're way past FF, but I'm sure an exception could be organised.
[12:53] <thekorn> you should really try to update this version in intrepid, because it is missing all the nice features like load(), caching and support for hosted files
[12:56] <james_w> I'm going to work on that this week
[12:57] <james_w> if anyone wants to help that would be appreciated
[13:02] <kiko> james_w, on upgrading launchpadlib?
[13:02] <james_w> kiko: yup
[13:03] <kiko> james_w, awesome, I will tell francis and leonart to ping you. thanks for doing that!
[13:03] <james_w> no problem
[13:04] <james_w> I thought about asking to make sure there was nothing juicy landing in the next week we were going to miss out on
[13:05] <kiko> I was going to ask them exactly that :)
[13:13] <thekorn> james_w, super, great news :)
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[13:35] <wgrant> mrevell-lunch: Yay! CHR docs.
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[16:23] <kiko> leonardr, ping
[16:24] <leonardr> kiko, yo
[16:25] <kiko> leonardr, hey there, weekend okay? I was talking this morning with james_w who wanted to get in touch with you about upgrading launchpadlib in Intrepid -- can you give him suggestions or advice?
[16:25] <leonardr> sure, i don't know anything about packaging but i can answer any questions he has about launchpadlib or the web service in particular
[16:26] <kiko> james_w, be sure to let us know
[16:26] <james_w> hey leonardr, how ya doing?
[16:26] <james_w> thanks kiko
[16:27] <leonardr> hi james_w
[16:28] <james_w> leonardr: my first question is about whether current trunk is good to take. Is there anything juicy landing in the next week we would want? Any known major bugs with it?
[16:29] <leonardr> there are known bugs but they're not going to be fixed in the next week
[16:29] <leonardr> because i've got a deadline on another project
[16:29] <james_w> sure, but is there anything major that would make the current trunk worse than what we already have?
[16:29] <kiko> leonardr, how bad are the known bugs? (URLs help)
[16:30] <leonardr> let me find the worst one
[16:30] <leonardr> james_w: there are no regressions from what you already have
[16:30] <james_w> cool, that's good enough, as long as we aren't introducing known security holes or anything
[16:32] <leonardr> the worst ones have to do with hosted files. bug 274815 and bug 277533
[16:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 274815 in launchpadlib "Cached binary files aren't retrieved from cache" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274815
[16:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277533 in launchpadlib "Deleting a file from a release raises exceptions." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277533
[16:32] <abentley> mrevell: Did you want to talk?
[16:32] <mrevell> hey abentley, it's okay, don't worry
[16:33] <abentley> mrevell: Okie dokie.
[16:33] <james_w> leonardr: they look ok, we can always SRU for fixing important things.
[16:34] <james_w> leonardr: for future reference, how do you get the debugging information from the first bug?
[16:36] <leonardr> james_w: set httplib2.debuglevel to 1 before creating any Launchpad objects
[16:36] <james_w> cool, thanks, that will come in useful
[16:36] <james_w> leonardr: I haven't seen any waddlib changes, have I missed any?
[16:38] <leonardr> james_w: no, no wadllib changes for quite a while
[16:38] <james_w> cool
[16:38] <james_w> I'll request a freeze exception today
[16:39] <james_w> my last question would be about API stability. We've obviously had lots of problems with things like python-lp-bugs which do screen-scraping. Are future changes in launchpad likely to break launchpadlib in released versions, or is it far more robust against that sort of thing?
[16:40] <james_w> by it's nature it seems like it would be more robust, but I wondered if API stability was a launchpad goal. I realise this may be a post-beta thing.
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[17:25] <james_w> leonardr: I filed the freeze exception request at bug 279147, thanks for your time.
[17:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 279147 in python-launchpadlib "[Freeze exception] Update to new bzr snapshot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279147
[17:25] <leonardr> james_w, sure
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[18:36] <kmouly> how may states are there in a bug lifecycle in launchpad's bug tracker?
[18:40] <kiko-fud> kmouly, see http://news.launchpad.net/general/of-bugs-and-statuses
[18:41] <kmouly> kiko-fud: thnx
[18:41] <kiko-fud> YW
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[20:31] <CardinalFang> Is all well on lp?  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jimw/mysql-server/bug-33812/diff/2673  ->  "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."
[20:32] <beuno> CardinalFang, mysql is known to make loggerhead explode
[20:32] <beuno> mwhudson, mornin'
[20:32] <beuno> up yet?  :)
[20:32] <CardinalFang> beuno, Oh.  Dang.
[20:33] <beuno> CardinalFang, I'd say, try a few more times, enough RAM may be freed up at some point
[20:33] <S-i-A> hi
[20:33] <beuno> it's a "known issue"
[20:33] <CardinalFang> It certainly pushes bzr in general, too.
[20:33] <S-i-A> anyone from Mailing list approval?
[20:33] <mwhudson> beuno: hi
[20:34] <beuno> S-i-A, that would be Rinchen or barry (which I think is off sick today)
[20:34] <S-i-A> ok thanx
[20:34] <beuno> mwhudson, hi!  is CardinalFang's timeout expected?
[20:35] <mwhudson> mm, loggerhead is using a lot of ram
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[20:40] <Rinchen> S-i-A, mailing list approval?  let me look
[20:40] <S-i-A> Rinchen: https://launchpad.net/~linwx.net
[20:40] <Rinchen> beuno, actually any LP dev can do it now, unless it's ubuntu then we hand them off
[20:41] <mwhudson> CardinalFang: i restarted the code browser, please try again
[20:41] <Rinchen> S-i-A, done
[20:41] <S-i-A> Rinchen: thanx
[20:44] <stefanlsd> Does anyone know why this doesnt work - bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu     -  It just hangs and doesnt download anything...
[20:53] <Rinchen> stefanlsd, interesting
[20:53] <Rinchen> stefanlsd, i'm uploading something and it's taking a long time
[20:53] <stefanlsd> Rinchen: maybe if its a big repo?
[20:54] <Rinchen> stefanlsd, let me try locally
[20:54] <rockstar> stefanlsd, yea, it might take a while.  It's a big repo.
[20:54] <stefanlsd> rockstar: its been about 15 minutes, and i have 28k so far...
[20:55] <rockstar> stefanlsd, yea, when I say a while, I mean a good long time.
[20:55] <rockstar> If you want to make sure it's progressing,  add -Dhpss after the bzr branch
[20:56] <rockstar> stefanlsd, upgrading you version of bzr might also help.
[20:56] <Rinchen> stefanlsd, worked here but it's slow.. it's not been upgraded either
[20:58] <stefanlsd> rockstar: im using 1.6.1...
[20:58] <stefanlsd> maybe the bandwidth to LP just sucks from me
[20:58] <rockstar> stefanlsd, I think 1.6.1 had the regression fixes in it, but I can't be sure.
[21:02] <stefanlsd> This is interesting strace of bzr process. Its just repeating this... - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/54761/
[21:03] <stefanlsd> looks like its working - just slow
[21:04] <beuno> stefanlsd, optionally, if you branch through http, it should be faster for the first time (after that, it's faster to use bzr+ssh, the default when you use lp: urls)
[21:04] <beuno> of course, if you've already start, it's probably best to leave it as-is
[21:05] <stefanlsd> beuno: thanks. noted. will do http next time :)
[21:05] <james_w> this is http isn't it?
[21:06] <stefanlsd> james_w: lp:
[21:06] <beuno> james_w, doesn't  lp: default to bzr+ssh if you specified your launchpad-login?
[21:06] <james_w> yeah, but the strace looks like HTTP
[21:06] <stefanlsd> traceroute from me to code.edge.launchpad.net if anyone is interested - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/54762/
[21:06] <james_w> recv(4, "HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\nDate: Mon, 06 O"..., 16384, 0) = 640
[21:07] <CardinalFang> mwhudson, restarting it made it work.  Thank you.
[21:07] <mwhudson> np
[21:10] <stefanlsd> heh. still 28K. where is it saving this 'stuff'?
[21:13] <james_w> stefanlsd: I assume you are on intrepid?
[21:13] <stefanlsd> james_w: yeah...
[21:14] <stefanlsd> james_w: actually, it just started increasing...
[21:14] <james_w> stefanlsd: there may be a bugfix in this area not in Intrepid. I remember one, but I need to find some time to investigate and cherrypick it
[21:15] <stefanlsd> james_w: and u were right, i actually am running  bzr branch https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu     . run the lp one earlier...
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[22:00] <YaManicKill> hey guys, i was wondering, basically, this is my first time really doing some actual testing of ubuntu...and i was wondering if someone could direct me to somewhere that could tell me how to properly file a bug?
[22:02] <kiko-phone> YaManicKill, launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[22:02] <beuno> YaManicKill, or http://help.launchpad.net/Bugs
[22:04] <det> Does launchpad offer any statistics
[22:04] <det> like number of times a package has been downloaded ?
[22:04] <det> for ppas
[22:04] <beuno> det, not at the moment, no
[22:04] <beuno> it is planned for the future
[22:05] <det> That would be really useful
[22:05] <det> Thanks
[22:06] <YaManicKill> is it sad that i'm excited about the first bug i'm logging?
[22:06] <exarkun> Filing bugs is great.
[22:06] <exarkun> Community participation, hooray.
[22:06] <exarkun> Open source, hooray.
[22:06] <kiko-phone> nah, it's cool
[22:08] <YaManicKill> man i'm a geek...but you are right...the whole feeling of, i can actually make a difference with the stuff i use on my computer - its great
[22:10] <YaManicKill> anyway...i'm just bout to test if my video driver works...so gotta reboot...ciao
[22:15] <mtaylor> kiko-phone: so, I just uploaded a source package to a PPA, and it didn't install a depend that was listed in Build-Depends-Indep. Is this expected?
[22:16] <kiko-phone> mtaylor, no... but that's not really something I'd expect us to not have noticed before
[22:17] <mtaylor> kiko-phone: me either :)
[22:17] <mtaylor> kiko-phone: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18274662/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.protobuf_2.0.2-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:18] <kiko-phone> make[1]: dh_pysupport: Command not found
[22:18] <wgrant> mtaylor: Build-Depends-Indep are only installed for arch: all builds - ie. i386
[22:20] <mtaylor> wgrant: ahh... so in this case it's an error in the packaging
[22:20] <wgrant> It is.
[22:21] <wgrant> Soyuz does give us some strange build failures, but that's not one of them.
[22:21] <mtaylor> :)
[22:21] <wgrant> They're generally in strange, strange things like SCons.
[22:22] <mtaylor> SCons does not give me happy
[22:22] <wgrant> Mhm.
[22:22] <markh> is there a way we can ask for a Launchpad mirror of a CVS repo to use windows line endings in the repo?  Otherwise, the mirror and the real CVS trunk are always different and never the same on my platform.
[22:23] <markh> (problem is CVS checkout on windows has \r\n, but bzr branch has \n, so every file differs on every line.
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[22:49] <tretle> hi, I am trying to push some stuff to my branch but I am getting an error
[22:50] <beuno> tretle, what error are you getting?
[22:50] <tretle>  Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko
[22:51] <jelmer> tretle, install python-paramiko
[22:51]  * wgrant recommends using bzr+ssh, too.
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[22:54] <kiko> tretle, bzr launchpad-login and then bzr push lp:...
[22:55] <beuno> well, bzr defaults to http if you don't have lp-login set, so he may be something manually
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[23:08] <tretle> now getting this bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)
[23:11] <wgrant> tretle: See /topic
[23:12] <tretle> ah
[23:12] <tretle> at least its not me doing something wrong, will try later.. thanks for the help
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