| [00:38] <nixternal> hola people | |
| [00:39] <JontheEchidna> y hello thar | |
| [01:18] <seele> Riddell: hmm.. can you still call Tea "tea" if you don't serve tea? | |
| [03:21] <ScottK> Riddell: kleopatra is not essential to get GPG and S/MIME working for Kontact (which is why we didn't promote it for Gutsy). It does add certificate management U/I that is hugely helpful for S/MIME and so I always use it. Since we try to be user friendly, I think we want it, but it's not essential. | |
| [03:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ | |
| [08:37] <Arby> morning all | |
| [08:38] <davmor2> Morning :) | |
| [09:22] <Tonio_> hi there | |
| [09:30] <Tonio_> hum.... am I the only one who gets an ldap protocol issue when starting konversation ? that may be due to the fact I'm using ldap in kontact and konversation tries to get them somehow.... | |
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| [10:03] <yuriy> fun konsole bug -- different windows seem to want to stay the same size | |
| [10:12] <Riddell> seele: I never have tea with my tea | |
| [10:25] <davmor2> Riddell: on wubi I'm still getting the lightbulb telling me that "incomplete Language Support" but when you click on it it opens up a window with english greyed out and an install button but it doesn't install anything :-/ | |
| [10:28] <Riddell> davmor2: only one? I get three | |
| [10:29] <davmor2> I get one but it never goes away | |
| [10:29] <Riddell> yep, needs work post beta | |
| [10:29] <davmor2> Riddell: I'll note a bug on it shortly | |
| [10:31] <davmor2> Riddell: should jockey autostart on Kubuntu like it does on Ubuntu and xubutnu? | |
| [10:31] <Riddell> davmor2: yes | |
| [10:32] <Riddell> it does too, no idea if it shows up though, I don't have any non-free hardware | |
| [10:33] <davmor2> well it hasn't yet system has been on for a while. I'll confirm with a really install rather than a wubi one after | |
| [10:50] <eagles0513875> is there someone i can talk to bout getting unbanned from motu channel so that i may start helping to pkg things | |
| [10:53] <davmor2> Riddell: are you able to do a wubi test on the latest cd's? | |
| [10:55] <davmor2> Riddell: I need to confirm a shutdown issue | |
| [11:11] <Riddell> davmor2: not until this afternoon (when girlfriend doesn't need her computer) | |
| [11:12] <davmor2> :) | |
| [11:15] <davmor2> Riddell: well when you get chance just see if you have this issue https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/276693 | |
| [11:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New] | |
| [12:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: kleopatra is only the GUI part of the Ägypten stack, and from the selftest it runs at startup I would say half the stack is unusable because of gpgme being compiled without gpgconf | |
| [12:50] <apachelogger> sebas: yo, what's the ETA for .2? | |
| [12:50] <rgreening> morning all | |
| [12:50] <sebas> apachelogger: I'm on the release announcement now ... maybe 2 hours or so? | |
| [12:51] <apachelogger> sebas: sounds terrific :) | |
| [12:59] <apachelogger> eagles0513875: the person who banned you would probably make sense | |
| [12:59] <apachelogger> otherwise the ubuntu irc operators | |
| [13:02] <stdin> apachelogger: currently in progress | |
| [13:03] <apachelogger> <3 progress :) | |
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| [13:27] <sebas> apachelogger: correction, release tomorrow, some last minute fix went in | |
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| [14:01] <seele> huh, canonical marketing is handling UX? does that mean mpt is going to change departments or is this new UX initiative only concerned with artwork? | |
| [14:06] <Hobbsee> seele: UX? | |
| [14:08] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: This is about as far as I can get with tooltips: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52820/ | |
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| [14:08] <JontheEchidna> Fails during the linking of libplasma | |
| [14:08] <JontheEchidna> so I'm probably doing something stupid that I'm not realizing | |
| [14:08] <seele> Hobbsee: user experience.. something sabdfl has been throwing around in blog entries | |
| [14:08] <apachelogger> sebas: oh kay | |
| [14:09] <Hobbsee> seele: oh. right. | |
| [14:09] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: can i ask you something in pm | |
| [14:10] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: no. | |
| [14:10] <eagles0513875> k | |
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| [15:07] <apachelogger> ScottK, Riddell: bug 276588 needs some sponsoring | |
| [15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 276588 in kde4libs "package kdelibs5-dev None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs5-dev.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkjsembed.so', which is also in package libkjsembed-dev" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276588 | |
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| [15:42] <\sh> Riddell: in what package I can find now the libQtGui.so.4 ? | |
| [15:43] <\sh> ah libqt4gui | |
| [15:43] <apachelogger> lol | |
| [15:44] <apachelogger> \sh: are you going to backport quassel .2 or should we try to get an exception? | |
| [15:44] <\sh> apachelogger: try to get an exception..I'm trying to fix ia32_linsd | |
| [15:44] <\sh> ia32-libs | |
| [15:45] <apachelogger> oh kay | |
| [16:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: Did you see JontheEchidna's paste on tooltips? Could you have a look at it? | |
| [16:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think 276588 ought to wait until after the beta is out. | |
| [16:03] <apachelogger> k | |
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| [16:05] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what is the linking error? | |
| [16:06] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/52639/ | |
| [16:09] <JontheEchidna> aseigo said I was missing the tooltip class from libs/plasma/private | |
| [16:09] <JontheEchidna> but I have that in my patch | |
| [16:09] <JontheEchidna> so I'm probably doing something wrong | |
| [16:12] <apachelogger> apparently | |
| [16:13] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: should there be a plasma/tooltip.h as well as the plasma/tooltip_p.h? | |
| [16:14] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: it's plasma/private/tooltip_p.h | |
| [16:15] <rgreening> hmm.. | |
| [16:15] <apachelogger> private header files have _p | |
| [16:17] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: patch looks good to me(tm) | |
| [16:17] <JontheEchidna> well it doesn't work, lol | |
| [16:17] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: so, in the log, tooltipmanager.cpp doesn't recognize the member functions, which means it has no reference (i.e. no header defining them), correct? at least that's how I read it... | |
| [16:18] <apachelogger> rgreening: technically | |
| [16:18] <apachelogger> but #include <private/tooltip_p.h> | |
| [16:18] <apachelogger> public: | |
| [16:18] <apachelogger> void updateTheme(); | |
| [16:19] <rgreening> right, that's why I was thinking you need a public tooltip.h | |
| [16:19] * rgreening could be wrong though | |
| [16:20] <apachelogger> well, the slot is public, if the file itself is doesn't really matter there AFAIK | |
| [16:21] * apachelogger needs to find some food | |
| [16:21] <rgreening> does the include line in the .cpp for tooltip_p.h need to come before the tooltipmanager.h include? | |
| [16:21] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: ^ | |
| [16:24] * JontheEchidna pulls up the patch | |
| [16:25] <JontheEchidna> in tooltipmanager.cpp | |
| [16:25] <JontheEchidna> tooltipmanager.h comes before the tooltip_p.h include | |
| [16:27] * rgreening wonders if it needs the reverse | |
| [16:27] <rgreening> cause tooltipmanager refs stuff in the private include (just thinking...) | |
| [16:29] <JontheEchidna> well I guess it's worth a shot | |
| [16:30] <JontheEchidna> but it begs the question "how does this stuff work in trunk?" | |
| [16:32] <rgreening> hmm... ok, I'm at a loss. | |
| [16:32] * rgreening builds it for myself.. testing | |
| [16:32] <JontheEchidna> linking now... | |
| [16:32] <JontheEchidna> fails, same error | |
| [16:36] <Riddell> davmor2: bug 276693 is from a kubuntu installed to a windows drive yes? | |
| [16:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 276693 in wubi "Intrepid: Kubuntu Fails to shutdown cleanly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276693 | |
| [16:37] <davmor2> Riddell: yes it's the wubi install | |
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| [16:46] <Riddell> davmor2: when I install with wubi to a windows drive is it supposed to then boot up with ubiquity running? | |
| [16:47] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: I'll see if I can figure it out... | |
| [16:48] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: thx | |
| [16:48] <davmor2> Riddell: First it does the iso prep in windows itself, then it reboots and you should choose kubuntu then you get ubuiquity, then it reboots and you get KDM | |
| [16:48] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: np... | |
| [16:52] <Riddell> davmor2: why does it need ubiquity? | |
| [16:52] <Riddell> davmor2: anyway, ubiquity doesn't show for me and ps on the console suggests something crashed | |
| [16:52] <Riddell> kwin crashes for one | |
| [16:53] <Riddell> control-alt-backspace in X and it starts kde fine, shutdown is also fine | |
| [16:53] <smarter> Riddell: any news on the i18n issue? | |
| [16:54] <davmor2> Riddell: Wubi only handles creation of the virtual partition and how to boot. Wubi then runs the installer from the modified image it creates in windows. | |
| [16:54] <Tm_T> smarter: I heard it's sorted in some way, though all translations need acception/review | |
| [16:55] <davmor2> so it is basically a standard install just to a virtual partition :) | |
| [16:55] <smarter> Tm_T: cool | |
| [16:57] <Riddell> davmor2: and does kwin and/or ubiquity crash for you? | |
| [16:58] <davmor2> Riddell: No but I get no backdrop which I should have to be honest. Install went fine it was just the shutdown or reboot I was having issues with | |
| [16:59] <Riddell> smarter: it's bug 273489 | |
| [16:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 273489 in rosetta "Remaining Intrepid template approvals" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273489 | |
| [17:00] <Riddell> smarter: doesn't look like language packs have been updated, so I guess it's still not fixed | |
| [17:00] <Tm_T> Riddell: I heard it's sorted in some way, though all translations need acception/review | |
| [18:33] <ScottK> I'd appreciate it if someone on Intrepid who uses kontact could do a quick test for me ... | |
| [18:34] <ScottK> In a folder that has mail you want to delete, click on the trach icon as fast as you can for 5 - 10 times and see if it gets lost and you end up with no message selected? | |
| [18:34] <JontheEchidna> would kmail be ok? | |
| [18:35] <ScottK> Yes. | |
| [18:35] <ScottK> Should be the same for that. | |
| [18:35] <JontheEchidna> I clicked it real fast 17 times but I still have a message selected | |
| [18:36] <ScottK> Thanks. | |
| [18:36] <ScottK> Must be me then. | |
| [18:38] <Riddell> anyone fancy doing a beta announce wiki page? | |
| [18:38] <Riddell> nixternal? | |
| [19:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: it's a wiki -> team work would be sensible ;-) | |
| [19:04] <apachelogger> ah right, I can't edit :P | |
| [19:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: what content? | |
| [19:05] <apachelogger> like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Alpha5/Kubuntu ? | |
| [19:10] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what is new since alpha5? | |
| [19:10] <JontheEchidna> uh | |
| [19:10] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.1.2 :P | |
| [19:11] <apachelogger> yus | |
| [19:11] <apachelogger> what else | |
| [19:11] <JontheEchidna> wokring network manager | |
| [19:11] <apachelogger> rly? | |
| [19:11] <JontheEchidna> *working | |
| [19:11] <JontheEchidna> ya, rly | |
| [19:11] <apachelogger> ok | |
| [19:11] <JontheEchidna> and bugfixes in general | |
| [19:11] * apachelogger thinks we should keep a changelog | |
| [19:11] <apachelogger> also helps with the team reports | |
| [19:13] <apachelogger> Adept 3.0 Beta 2 | |
| [19:38] <rgreening> apachelogger: write a script to scarf the changelogs and grab the entries > date... :) | |
| [19:38] <rgreening> changelogs exist already in the packages | |
| [19:39] * rgreening ducks and hides from apachelogger, lest he hit me with the lart stick | |
| [19:41] <apachelogger> rgreening: not all package changelog entries are useful | |
| [19:41] <apachelogger> + that would mean someone has to maintain the list of packages to generate the changelog from | |
| [19:41] <apachelogger> ...if we were using bzr... :P | |
| [19:42] <Riddell> apachelogger: also what's new in Intrepid at all, since lots of hardy users will be upgrading | |
| [19:43] <jjesse> we should give nixternal a hard time for not keeping up with that | |
| [19:43] <jjesse> he did the release notes/wiki pages for hardy | |
| [19:43] <jjesse> if i recall correctly | |
| [19:44] * apachelogger thinks nixternal doesn't love us anymore | |
| [19:44] <Riddell> just because he got a job doesn't mean he doesn't love us | |
| [19:45] <jjesse> he doesn't love us anymore, thats why he is working w/ rpms ;( | |
| [19:45] <apachelogger> getting a job that doesn't involve kubuntu is pretty unloving | |
| [19:46] <jjesse> and the best part is nixternal isn't here to defend himself | |
| [19:46] <rgreening> apachelogger: that's why I ducked... figured for a shot across the bow :) | |
| [19:46] * apachelogger should start working for novell | |
| [19:46] <nixternal> I just love Riddell now because he supported me! | |
| [19:46] <apachelogger> that would make stealing patches easier | |
| [19:46] <jjesse> dang he's hback | |
| [19:46] <nixternal> jjesse: I am always here | |
| [19:46] <nixternal> just can't answer all of the time | |
| [19:46] <apachelogger> ^_^ | |
| [19:46] <jjesse> even when we don't want you to be here :P | |
| [19:46] <apachelogger> lol | |
| [19:46] <nixternal> between the hours of 06:00 and 17:00 CST I am here | |
| [19:47] * rgreening wishes to work for canonical F/T | |
| [19:47] <nixternal> if you want to write SNMP MIB specs, mib readers, and a mib publisher I will be down for the help | |
| [19:48] <apachelogger> rgreening: don't ever start contributing to the kernel then :P | |
| [19:48] <jjesse> grin :) | |
| [19:48] <rgreening> hahahah | |
| [19:49] <rgreening> I would, just to add to the point 01 % | |
| [19:49] <apachelogger> :D | |
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| [21:12] <ScottK> Riddell: It looks to me like kmobiletools got added to kubuntu-desktop when it shouldn't have due to temprorarliy being part of kdepim. | |
| [21:12] <ScottK> Riddell: OK if I remove it? | |
| [21:34] <Riddell> ScottK: go ahead | |
| [21:34] <ScottK> Riddell: OK. Thanks. | |
| [22:28] <ScottK> Riddell: Done. | |
| [22:29] <Riddell> New Kubuntu desktop CDs for testing! | |