2008/07/30/#xubuntu.txt

[00:07] <bsharitt> I'm having a slight problem with disabling the touch to click function of my trackpad in Ubuntu.
[00:08] <bsharitt> Yesterday I got GSynaptics to turn it off and I got the error: "GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[00:08] <bsharitt> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics"
[00:08] <bsharitt> I fixed that in the xorg.conf file and was able to disable the annoying behavior
[00:09] <bsharitt> Today the dreaded tap to click is back and GSynaptics still won't work(with the same error), and to make things worse, xorg.conf is still "fixed". Now I'm stuck, any ideas?
[00:37] <PsynoKhi0> heya
[01:06] <guardro> hrm, the quick search in synaptic isn't working.  it's grayed out.  (intrepid)  any ideas of what could be up?
[01:27] <Coder365_2> okay guys
[01:27] <Coder365_2> where is the User Interface Settings utility?
[01:27] <Coder365_2> I can't find it at all
[01:29] <Coder365_2> come on, someone has to know where it is
[01:32] <guardro> settings->settings manager?
[01:33] <Coder365_2> oh
[01:33] <Coder365_2> looking right at it
[01:33] <Coder365_2> :D
[01:33] <Coder365_2> thanks
[01:33] <guardro> np
[01:49] <fourChan> how do i edit the xubuntu menu?
[01:49] <fourChan> the menu editor doesn't really work
[01:49] <fourChan> not for the categories like network, etc.
[01:50] <fourChan> that's the only thing i don't like about xfce
[01:50] <Sydero> I think you have to edit the .desktop files by hand for those
[01:52] <Sydero> /usr/share/applications
[02:30] <MeanderingCode> Does anyone use pulseaudio on 8.04?
[02:31] <MeanderingCode> or can point me to a resource for 8.04 sound problems, like no software mixing...the ubuntu forums aren't holding solutions on this one
[02:34] <MeanderingCode> no?  does anyone in here have sound issues with xubuntu 8.04?
[02:34] <Sydero> not me
[02:35] <MeanderingCode> be happy
[02:35] <MeanderingCode> thanks for responding, though :)
[02:39] <Coder365_2> I'm having problems with xorg. I can't get anything higher than 800x600
[02:39] <Coder365_2> and that's a pain
[02:39] <Coder365_2> any suggestions/ideas? do I need to reconfigure xorg?
[02:42] <Genelyk> ?
[02:42] <Coder365_2> hm?
[02:42] <Sydero> get a better graphics card ;)
[02:42] <Coder365_2> ....
[02:42] <Sydero> or get proper drivers :P
[03:25] <wols> Coder365_2: what videocard?
[03:26] <Coder365_2> ATI Rage Mobility
[03:26] <wols> ouch. use ati or fglrx drivers. fglrx might not work tho
[03:26] <wols> check what drivers you run run now and check your Xorg.0.conf
[03:26] <Coder365_2> it worked fine in ubuntu 7.10
[03:27] <Coder365_2> so I know i can get it working
[04:59] <ffoegboy> i want to dual boot a hp 2133 mini computer with xubuntu, will the install iso help with partinioning and the dual boot setup?
[05:01] <ffoegboy> im new to linux and unsure of these steps
[05:50] <ai3gtmc> how do I mount my windows Devices? I cant see it on places
[11:20] <facker>  i just downloaded mummy tomb of the dragon  movie by torrent. its says 'content blocked. the movie can be viewd by go media player'   and the go media player is not free. any other options i have?
[11:27] <facker>  i just downloaded mummy tomb of the dragon  movie by torrent. its says 'content blocked. the movie can be viewd by go media player'   and the go media player is not free. any other options i have?
[12:40] <wols> !warez
[12:40] <ubottu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:53] <TheSheep> wols: he left
[13:05] <generalsnus> hey guys!
[13:05] <adamw9678> how do I get fiuxbox to work on xubuntu?
[13:05] <adamw9678> Fluxbox sorry
[13:07] <generalsnus> so ive been struggeling with setting up  xubuntu with ldap.. for user authentication and /home folder mounting.. is there a updated tutorial/how-to for doing this?  im dizzy with all the .conf files and such from my last unsucsessfull attempt
[13:23] <nbjayme> hello all. any sound record app for xubuntu 8.04? the default install does not have.
[13:30] <generalsnus> so ive been struggeling with setting up  xubuntu with ldap.. for user authentication and /home folder mounting.. is there a updated tutorial/how-to for doing this?  im dizzy with all the .conf files and such from my last unsucsessfull attempt
[14:40] <mikeblack93> hello??
[14:40] <mikeblack93> i can't speak to anyone
[14:41] <th0r> mikeblack93, ask the question and if someone knows the answer they will respond
[14:43] <mikeblack93> thx
[14:43] <mikeblack93> i have a problem with my mic
[14:44] <mikeblack93> i need a how to or something(i have a Creative Ensoniq soundcard)
[14:45] <th0r> mikeblack93, you might start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[14:46] <mikeblack93> thx
[14:49] <mikeblack93> i'll start with this and come back =)
[15:26] <adamw9678> Dose any1 know how to install fluxbox on xubuntu?
[15:27] <TheSheep> adamw9678: you cannot find it in synaptic?
[15:28] <adamw9678> I havent look, I will look now. Thanks
[15:37] <th0r> adamw9678, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
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[16:16] <bassboi> hey guys
[16:16] <bassboi> how would i move my /home dir
[16:16] <bassboi> to a diff partition that has stuff already on it
[16:17] <gnomefreak> same way you would move anything else but might i suggest not doing that and instead copy it
[16:17] <adamw9678> th0r: I'v tryed that but it did'nt seen to work?
[16:17] <bassboi> adamw9678, does it install?
[16:17] <gnomefreak> adamw9678: you cant install fluxbox?
[16:18] <bassboi> gnomefreak, ok
[16:18] <adamw9678> I'v been told i can?
[16:18] <Krystanos> hi
[16:18] <bassboi> adamw9678, you must log out, and then change the session to fluxbox
[16:18] <bassboi> and log back in
[16:18] <gnomefreak> adamw9678: do you have universe repo enabled?
[16:18] <adamw9678> Ok I'll try that. Thanks
[16:18] <bassboi> adamw9678, once fluxbox is installed
[16:18] <Krystanos> I'm looking for help, I can't find any onf Ubuntu forum... I can't make VNC or NX work on xubuntu
[16:18] <bassboi> adamw9678, did fluxbox install correctly
[16:19] <th0r> you guys might first ask him what he means by "it didn't seem to work"
[16:19] <bassboi> yz
[16:19] <bassboi> he didn't answer :|
[16:19] <adamw9678> I dont know I will see if I can change the session
[16:19] <bassboi> wait
[16:19] <bassboi> !@
[16:19] <gnomefreak> th0r: he couldnt find it as he couldnt before. he doesnt have universe enalbled if he cant find it ;)
[16:19] <bassboi> in your terminal, did the apt=get install work correctly
[16:19] <gnomefreak> -
[16:19] <Krystanos> I can't start XFCE when I start a VNC server
[16:21] <Krystanos> :'(
[16:21] <gnomefreak> adamw9678: if apt-cache policy fluxbox   says it is installed than it installed if nothing is next to the Installed line than it needs to be installed
[16:23] <Krystanos> nobody can help ?
[16:25] <Krystanos> allriiiiiiiiiiiight... I guess I will give up on ubuntu and xubuntu...
[16:26] <Krystanos> thanks anyway...
[16:28] <wols> Krystanos: you're welcome
[16:28] <wrtpeeps> I do love how you expect that to work though. Nice idea. Well thought out.
[16:28] <adamw9678> I'm in now I just dont know my way around fluxbox yet, Thanks
[16:29] <Krystanos> well I guess not, since I've never hd any answer on any forum, neither people who have the same problem... IRC was my last try after days trying to make things work... :(
[16:30] <Krystanos> so bye, maybe I'll try again ubuntu later... ;)
[16:32] <adamw9678> I dont like fluxbox much. It makes my laptop a bit quicker but I cant even find a web brouser?
[16:36] <wols> right click on desktop and menu is there as usual. if you have a browser installed, it will show up there
[16:36] <wols> e.g. firefox
[16:37] <adamw9678> I cant seem to wine to work back in XFCE. I get an error message saying Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c" The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported?
[16:38] <wols> winecfg
[16:56] <bassboi> :-D
[16:56] <bassboi> gnomefreak, it worked
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[17:23] <gnomefreak> bassboi: good to hear
[17:24] <gnomefreak> sorry was starting lunch
[18:16] <bassboi> np
[18:16] <bassboi> gnomefreak, i just whipped up some myself
[18:31] <xubuntuuser> how can i disable orage's configure dialog at startup?
[18:42] <asbjorn> hi guys... Having some issues getting xdmcp up and running with 8.04 and gdm, googling it leads me to think its a know bug? If so, is there a recommended workaround? Like using kdm or xdm or something else?
[18:43] <cody-somerville> whats the bug number?
[18:44] <asbjorn> 150193?
[18:45] <asbjorn> fits my issue, but I can't be sure..
[18:46] <cody-somerville> ubottu, bug #150193
[18:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 150193 in gdm "Remote Login via XDMCP is not working" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150193
[20:55] <trpf> Hey .. anyone willing to help out a newbie with getting his Ati videocard to work?
[20:55] <Sydero> get the drivers from the repos ;)
[20:56] <PsynoKhi0> actually, it's very much dependent upon the card
[20:56] <Sydero> yeah :/
[20:56] <PsynoKhi0> and personal taste/needs
[20:56] <Sydero> actually forget repos
[20:56] <trpf> so just enabling it to use the drivers under the "hardware drivers" thing, is indeed not the right solution? .. its ticked and says its working, but the cpu load shoots up even if I move a window or scroll
[20:56] <Sydero> they're usually too old for some things
[20:57] <Sydero> try finding a newer version
[20:58] <PsynoKhi0> I don't trust the proprietary drivers manager
[20:58] <PsynoKhi0> I'd much rather use ATIs own binaries
[20:59] <PsynoKhi0> but as I said... what card and what do you ant to do with it?
[20:59] <trpf> when I installed Xubuntu from Wibu , it offered to enable the propieratary one .. I did, but I don't think its helping .. scrolling in a webbrowser will lag
[21:00] <PsynoKhi0> you're running Xubuntu within windows?
[21:00] <trpf> a dual boot
[21:00] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[21:00] <PsynoKhi0> phew
[21:01] <PsynoKhi0> anyway let's try with the drivers manager first
[21:01] <trpf> System > Hardware Drivers, you mean?
[21:03] <PsynoKhi0> I use different ubuntu version with different locales so I can't remember  exactly the name in each but yeah something like taht
[21:04] <PsynoKhi0> not even logged in xubuntu right now :)
[21:04] <trpf> it shows just one thing, a Device Driver: ATI accelerated grap. driver , enabled and in use
[21:04] <PsynoKhi0> that's the thing
[21:05] <PsynoKhi0> using xubuntu 8.04?
[21:06] <trpf> the newest .. 8.04.1 ?
[21:06] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[21:06] <PsynoKhi0> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[21:06] <PsynoKhi0> Method 1 is what to look at
[21:07] <PsynoKhi0> basically: open a terminal, and type:
[21:07] <PsynoKhi0> cd /etc/X11
[21:08] <PsynoKhi0> once there type
[21:08] <PsynoKhi0> sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.bak
[21:08] <trpf> done
[21:09]  * PsynoKhi0 backspace "tell me when done" :P
[21:09] <PsynoKhi0> ok now:
[21:09] <PsynoKhi0> sudo nano xorg.conf
[21:10] <trpf> right
[21:10] <PsynoKhi0> use your arrow keys to navigate to Section "Device"
[21:10] <trpf> yup
[21:10] <PsynoKhi0> there should be so,ething like "Configured video card" or similar
[21:10] <trpf> yep
[21:11] <PsynoKhi0> cool, right under that "Configured videocard" row, add
[21:11] <PsynoKhi0> Driver "fglrx"
[21:12] <trpf> already there
[21:12] <PsynoKhi0> unless it's there?
[21:12] <PsynoKhi0> hehe
[21:12] <PsynoKhi0> great press Ctrl + X
[21:12] <trpf> ok, saved
[21:12] <PsynoKhi0> back in terminal?
[21:12] <trpf> yep
[21:13] <PsynoKhi0> ok now type:
[21:13] <PsynoKhi0> sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[21:13] <trpf> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[21:14] <trpf> I have run the Ati's driver .run file .. and then tried this last step , without the -f
[21:14] <trpf> neither worked, hence Im here :)
[21:15] <PsynoKhi0> getting anything from "fglrxinfo"?
[21:16] <trpf> yes:
[21:16] <trpf> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[21:16] <trpf> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[21:16] <trpf> and two more lines of stuff
[21:17] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[21:17] <PsynoKhi0> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[21:18] <trpf> Package xserver-xgl is not installed, so not removed
[21:18] <trpf> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:20] <PsynoKhi0> what card is it again?
[21:21] <trpf> ati radeon 2600
[21:21] <Genelyk> :O
[21:21] <PsynoKhi0> PCI-E or AGP?
[21:21] <trpf> agp
[21:21] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[21:23] <Genelyk> I have directory in home named  mesa ,  thinking  thats my  brother create
[21:27] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Manual_Method_.28installing_Catalyst_8.7.29 could you give those a try while I browse a few forums about your card?
[21:27] <trpf> I will have a look at it
[21:35] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, how far have you gotten?
[21:36] <trpf> sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[21:36] <trpf> sudo: gedit: command not found
[21:36] <trpf> there, just got stopped :P
[21:37] <trpf> its one of the steps of Method 2
[21:37] <devoncoke> hi
[21:38] <devoncoke> i recently installed xubuntu on my system and was wondering if there is a way to undo some of the settings, like using a partition as a swap area
[21:39] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, gedit is for ubuntu, xubuntu uses mousepad by default :)
[21:39] <PsynoKhi0> devoncoke, yes you can
[21:39] <TheSheep> devoncoke: sure, although using a partition for swap is better
[21:40] <devoncoke> i preffer having two partitions wor win and one for xubuntu
[21:40] <trpf> ok, so what do I change about that command?
[21:40] <devoncoke> i kinda  set like 60GBs for swap O.o
[21:40] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, when you see gedit somewhere, use mousepad or nano instead
[21:41] <trpf> ok
[21:41] <TheSheep> devoncoke: you can use gparted (find it in synaptic) to disable swap, resize the swap partition, and enable it back
[21:41] <devoncoke> will try thanks in advance
[21:42] <PsynoKhi0> isn't gparted on the livecd?
[21:42] <PsynoKhi0> devoncoke, did you use the desktop or alternate CD  to install?
[21:43] <devoncoke> alternate CD
[21:43] <PsynoKhi0> ooooo
[21:43] <devoncoke> that sounded like a bad oooo
[21:44] <PsynoKhi0> nope :)
[21:44] <PsynoKhi0> the alternate CD ships with a partitioning tool called partman
[21:45] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: gparted is there too
[21:45] <devoncoke> ok will check it out
[21:45] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep, I was thinking about booting from the alternatce cd
[21:45] <PsynoKhi0> dang
[21:47] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, is it coming along?
[21:47] <trpf> am at last step of method 2 .. but getting errors .. so checking for typos :P
[21:48] <bassboi> hmm
[21:48] <bassboi> this junk is easy
[21:49] <trpf> sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_*.deb fglrx-kernel-source_*.deb fglrx-amdcccle_*.deb
[21:49] <trpf> dpkg: error processing xorg-driver-fglrx_*.deb (--install):
[21:49] <trpf>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[21:49] <trpf> same error for other two
[21:51] <trpf> wait ..
[21:51] <PsynoKhi0> if you type:
[21:51] <PsynoKhi0> ls
[21:51] <PsynoKhi0> do you see and .deb file?
[21:51] <trpf> yeah, gotta be in right dir :D
[21:51] <PsynoKhi0> ;)
[21:51] <bassboi> LOL
[21:51] <trpf> ... been so long since playing in DOS
[21:52] <hvgotcodes> can anyone tell me how to determine how much power is being used by a usb device?
[21:52] <bassboi> no more than 500mA
[21:52] <hvgotcodes> bassboi: i just received my notebook cooler from newegg but it doesn't appear to work
[21:53] <hvgotcodes> I just want to make sure the usb is providing enough power
[21:53] <bassboi> it's usb powered?
[21:53] <trpf> how much does it require?
[21:53] <hvgotcodes> bassboi: yes
[21:53] <hvgotcodes> it requires .45A
[21:53] <PsynoKhi0> the aluminium Zalman one?
[21:53] <hvgotcodes> antec
[21:53] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[21:53] <bassboi> hvgotcodes, USB can handle up to 500mA per port
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> 2.25 watts
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> so newegg shipped me a broken unit eh?
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> the box was open when i received it
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> i f**** pissed
[21:54] <PsynoKhi0> uh
[21:54] <bassboi> did you try other USB ports?
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> yes
[21:54] <bassboi> RMA it i guess, newegg is good for that
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> i just want to do due diligence and see if i can see the device connected
[21:54] <hvgotcodes> RMA?
[21:55] <bassboi> exchange it... in other words
[21:55] <PsynoKhi0> return it for an exchange
[21:55] <bassboi> i never had a problem with newegg
[21:55] <hvgotcodes> do people recommend the zalman?
[21:55] <PsynoKhi0> are you sure yo can't adjust the fan speed somehow?
[21:55] <bassboi> or maybe a power button?
[21:56] <PsynoKhi0> hvgotcodes, the Zalman one is what I'd go for
[21:56] <bassboi> ...maybe it's temp controlled
[21:56] <hvgotcodes> how much power does it require?
[21:56] <hvgotcodes> there is no power button
[21:56] <hvgotcodes> there is a switch for low/hi
[21:56] <hvgotcodes> when i plug it in an led light goes on
[21:56] <bassboi> weird
[21:56] <PsynoKhi0> anywheel on the side?
[21:56] <hvgotcodes> but thats it
[21:57] <hvgotcodes> nope
[21:57] <bassboi> it seems like it's 1/2 workin
[21:57] <hvgotcodes> yes
[21:57] <bassboi> it could require a high temp to kick on
[21:57] <hvgotcodes> in xfce is there anything to tell me how much power is being drawn from a usb port?
[21:57] <hvgotcodes> I dont think it has  a temp monitor
[21:58] <bassboi> is it the one thats shaped like an x?
[21:58] <hvgotcodes> yes
[21:58] <hvgotcodes> the directions say it will turn on once plugged in
[21:58] <TheSheep> hmm.. there is powertop, at least for checking cpu power
[21:58] <PsynoKhi0> but no air coming out?
[21:59] <hvgotcodes> <PsynoKhi0>
[21:59] <hvgotcodes> sorry
[21:59] <hvgotcodes> how much power does the zalman draw
[21:59] <hvgotcodes> ?
[21:59] <hvgotcodes> and i can visually see the fans are not spinning
[21:59] <hvgotcodes> so no air coming out ;)
[21:59] <PsynoKhi0> meh
[21:59] <th0r> hvgotcodes, please don't use the enter key for punctuation
[21:59] <PsynoKhi0> I don't know about the zalman
[22:00] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, still there?
[22:00] <trpf> yes, trying still, sec
[22:01] <PsynoKhi0> what's wrong?
[22:02] <trpf> no, its doing its thing with the .deb files
[22:03] <trpf> finished .. it said some already exited
[22:03] <trpf> *existed .. what do I do now? restart?
[22:04] <PsynoKhi0> btw my xubuntu hardy installation hangs after a while as long as have the soundcard module loaded (snd_sbawe), any suggestion what could cause that?
[22:05] <trpf> that's a question not directed to me, right? this is the first time ever for me to muck about in linux :D
[22:05] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, no, check the final steps (after the 64bits part)
[22:05] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, nope hehe
[22:05] <PsynoKhi0> or well, you never know :)
[22:08] <PsynoKhi0> http://pastebin.com/m29de602a lsmod | grep snd
[22:08] <PsynoKhi0> the rows with a star are the ones I don't see in another ditro that works w/o probs on the same comp
[22:10] <trpf>  sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[22:10] <trpf> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[22:10] <trpf>   Major opcode of failed request:  144 (ATIFGLEXTENSION)
[22:10] <hvgotcodes> PsynoKhi0: which one did you recomment?
[22:11] <bassboi> zalman eh?
[22:12] <hvgotcodes> yeah but they make a bunch of models
[22:13] <PsynoKhi0> hvgotcodes, a bog flat one in aluminium with plenty of holes all over
[22:13] <PsynoKhi0> big*
[22:13] <hvgotcodes> yeah i want one that rests on the lap
[22:13] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[22:14] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, I don't know anymore
[22:14] <trpf> yeh .. the manual: " If it does not error you should be fine." .. doesn't know either :P
[22:15] <trpf> at least it got rid of the MESA mention in the fglrxinfo :D
[22:15] <PsynoKhi0> what exactly did you do to try and get your video card working, starting from the beginning?
[22:16] <trpf> first thing was that I accepted Xubuntu's offer to enable the proprietary drivers .. which I did, but did not have any effect
[22:16] <PsynoKhi0> I start fearing you rtied something "the windows way" and now big oopsie...
[22:17] <trpf> then I went on a search for others that had this problem .. and did eventually come across the manual link you gave me too
[22:17] <trpf> I tried it, but got confused with the gedit missing :\
[22:17] <trpf> (heck what I know gedit is) .. now I know :P
[22:18] <trpf> so have tried both 1 & 2 before, but got stuck
[22:18] <PsynoKhi0> how much memory does your computer have?
[22:18] <trpf> 512
[22:19] <PsynoKhi0> ok, here's something that has helped AGP users:
[22:19] <PsynoKhi0> go to /boot/grub
[22:20] <trpf> alright
[22:20] <PsynoKhi0> are you in a terminal?
[22:20] <trpf> yes
[22:20] <bassboi> hey i hear that nvidia cards don't perform all that well on linux
[22:20] <bassboi> true?
[22:20] <PsynoKhi0> sudo cp menu.lst menu.old
[22:21] <trpf> done
[22:21] <PsynoKhi0> bassboi, apparently the 8xxx and 9xxx series have abyssmal 2d  performance for the time being
[22:21] <trpf> menu.old didn't exist yet, now it does
[22:21] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, ok then:
[22:21] <bassboi> damn
[22:21] <PsynoKhi0> sudo nano menu.lst
[22:21] <bassboi> i wanted a 8600gt
[22:22] <trpf> ok
[22:22] <PsynoKhi0> (by the way, the sudo cp blabla.bla blabla.old is to make back ups in case things go south :) )
[22:22] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, find defoptions
[22:23] <PsynoKhi0> it should be something like #defoptions=silent splash
[22:24] <hvgotcodes> bassboi: i have the mobile version of that card and it works fine
[22:24] <trpf> found!
[22:24] <hvgotcodes> is there an lsusb type command?
[22:24] <trpf> uncomment?
[22:25] <PsynoKhi0> no no
[22:25] <PsynoKhi0> trpf, addthis to that line: mem=512MB
[22:26] <trpf> with a # preceding?
[22:26] <PsynoKhi0> yes
[22:27] <trpf> # defoptions=quiet splash
[22:27] <trpf> # mem=512MB
[22:27] <trpf> like that?
[22:27] <PsynoKhi0> no...
[22:27] <PsynoKhi0> on same line
[22:27] <trpf> ups
[22:27] <trpf> ok
[22:27] <PsynoKhi0> Ctrl + X and save
[22:28] <trpf> ok
[22:28] <PsynoKhi0> sudo update-grub
[22:28] <trpf> done
[22:29] <PsynoKhi0> ok now... reboot you comp... when you get to the login screen, hit: Ctrl + Alt + F2... enter your user name and pass, once done, type: aticonfig --initial -f
[22:29] <PsynoKhi0> then
[22:30] <PsynoKhi0> ctrl + alt + backsapce
[22:30] <PsynoKhi0> backspace*
[22:30] <PsynoKhi0> I hope he/she wrote it down >.<
[22:32] <PsynoKhi0> brb
[22:37] <trpf> hmm .. booting Xubuntu it said .. error 16: .. something with file system being wrong
[22:37] <trpf> went into recov. , from there resumed normal boot .. and now here again :P
[22:37] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[22:38] <trpf> tried aticonfig --initial -f
[22:38] <trpf> but
[22:38] <trpf> aticonfig --initial -f
[22:38] <trpf> Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[22:38] <trpf> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:38] <trpf> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[22:38] <trpf> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> my bad
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> you need superuser privileges, hence sudo
[22:40] <trpf> done :)
[22:40] <trpf> now the restart combo?
[22:41] <PsynoKhi0> no need to restart I think, log out and hit ctrl+alt+backspace (that might be overkill but better safe than sorry)
[22:43] <trpf> nothing changed
[22:43] <trpf> fglrxinfo still shows Mesa too
[22:47] <trpf> psy? interesting detail in the .conf
[22:48] <PsynoKhi0> Driver  "mesa"?
[22:48] <trpf> Section "Device"
[22:48] <trpf>         Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
[22:48] <trpf>         Driver      "fglrx"
[22:48] <trpf>         BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[22:48] <trpf> EndSection
[22:48] <trpf> PCI .. ?
[22:50] <PsynoKhi0> oh nvm than
[22:53] <trpf> hmm, this one post on ubuntu forum says that is the way for it to identify it as a AGP .. and should work that way
[22:53] <PsynoKhi0> that's what I thought
[22:54] <trpf> moreover, he says to enable the restricted driver and be done with it ... lol .. they are enabled .. but nothing changed
[22:55] <trpf> any use in trying method 2 again?
[22:56] <trpf> or does the added grub line not do much?
[22:58] <PsynoKhi0> is the restricted driver still showing as enabled?
[22:59] <trpf> yes
[22:59] <trpf> a ticked box
[22:59] <trpf> with "in use"
[23:00] <PsynoKhi0> shouldn't be
[23:00] <trpf> I read so too
[23:00] <PsynoKhi0> either you have the restricted driver from within xubuntu or you have the one you downloaded from ATI's website, not both:::
[23:01] <PsynoKhi0> sudo dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.493.1 --all
[23:01] <PsynoKhi0> but
[23:01] <PsynoKhi0> after the -v
[23:01] <PsynoKhi0> you should have the string that corresponds to the deb file you installed from Method 2
[23:02] <trpf> ok, the whole string? .. "ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run" ?
[23:02] <PsynoKhi0> no
[23:03] <PsynoKhi0> I'll give you the link again
[23:03] <PsynoKhi0> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Manual_Method_.28installing_Catalyst_8.7.29
[23:04] <trpf> so I need the version number I installed
[23:04] <PsynoKhi0> ok if you followed that guide, you should have isntalled a .deb file
[23:04] <PsynoKhi0> yes
[23:04] <trpf> yes i have
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[23:04] <trpf> and when I did, it too mentioned some stuff was already present
[23:06] <PsynoKhi0> so you have 2 conflicting fglrx on your comp
[23:06] <PsynoKhi0> anyway, better removing the latest one to start with
[23:07] <trpf> deleted the latest module .. v8.512
[23:09] <PsynoKhi0> ok, log out gain, hit ctrl alt F2, login/pass, sudo aticonf --initial -f
[23:09] <PsynoKhi0> you know the drill :)
[23:09] <trpf> ok
[23:11] <steven_> i got a good one for ya problem solvers
[23:11] <steven_> "mount point /cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere"
[23:11] <PsynoKhi0> /mnt/cdrom?
[23:11] <steven_> yep
[23:11] <steven_> it foes exist
[23:12] <cody-somerville> steven_, whats your question exactly? lol
[23:12] <steven_> /dev/scd0 -> /media/cd
[23:12] <steven_> well
[23:12] <steven_> i'm trying to put xubuntu on a usb stick
[23:12] <steven_> i get to this command
[23:12] <steven_> "mount -o loop -tiso9660 xubuntu*.iso /cdrom"
[23:13] <steven_> and i receive the response "mount: mount point /cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere"
[23:13] <steven_> and ideas?
[23:14] <steven_> i am LOSTY FROSTY!
[23:14] <steven_> i have no idea what to do
[23:15] <steven_> any ideas? i searched and found some stuff for knoppix but didn't help
[23:17] <steven_> anyone ever seen that error in xub?
[23:18] <trpf> when I boot, Xubuntu halts and says there's a problem with the file system .. through recov & resume normal , it works though :P but something is broke there too , heh .... anyways, I did the ctrl-alt-f2 + aticonfig thing .. that is done
[23:18] <gaurdro> steven_ try mounting it to cdrom0  cdrom is a autolink used by the automounter
[23:19] <steven_> how do i do that?
[23:20] <gaurdro> steven_ is this not in a xubuntu environment?
[23:20] <PsynoKhi0> trpf: do you have the desktop CD?
[23:20] <steven_> yes not with me
[23:20] <steven_> i have the .iso
[23:20] <steven_> i am within xubuntu
[23:20] <trpf> Psy: I installed it through Wibu, with an .iso
[23:20] <steven_> trying to make a persistent instll of xub 8.04.1 on a USB stick
[23:21] <steven_> and i am LOST
[23:21] <steven_> tried this
[23:21] <steven_> : sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom0
[23:21] <steven_> went okay
[23:21] <steven_> but i don't have an internal cd drive
[23:21] <steven_> i have an external at home
[23:21] <gaurdro> okay,  to mount the iso change /media/cdrom to /media/cdrom0
[23:21] <PsynoKhi0> trpf: if xubuntu complains after your file system you should worry
[23:21] <steven_> then i get this
[23:21] <steven_> mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom0
[23:21] <steven_> mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[23:21] <PsynoKhi0> complains about*
[23:22] <trpf> I figured as much, but booting XP works fine
[23:22] <trpf> I checked
[23:22] <gaurdro> steven_ that's not going to mount an iso and if you don't have a cdrom drive it's going to error because there's no cd drive to mount...
[23:22] <PsynoKhi0> err is this dual boot or not?
[23:22] <steven_> ahhh
[23:23] <steven_> so it should work fine once i attach my external cd rom drive?
[23:23] <gaurdro> mount -o loop -t iso9660 xub.iso  /mnt/cdrom0
[23:23] <trpf> yes, dual boot, but no separate partitions .. do you know the Wibu installer?
[23:23] <gaurdro> if you're mounting a .iso you don't need a physical cdrom drive
[23:23] <PsynoKhi0> trpf: that's no dual boot to me heh
[23:24] <trpf> a 1+ boot then :P
[23:24] <steven_> that ma have worked!
[23:24] <steven_> no errors
[23:24] <steven_> let me try it
[23:24] <PsynoKhi0> but whatever, I'd do a thorough file system check
[23:25] <steven_> let's see
[23:25] <steven_> if so thanks guys
[23:25] <gaurdro> no problem
[23:26] <PsynoKhi0> I think the person who came up with Wubi should be shot
[23:26] <gaurdro> ls /mnt/cdrom0   if it comes up with files your in business
[23:27] <PsynoKhi0> trpf: I'd do a proper dualboot install..
[23:27] <steven_> k
[23:28] <steven_> it seems to be working
[23:38] <steven_> YAY it worked!
[23:40] <steven_> is there a way to restrict my cpu use?
[23:40] <steven_> will it damage my cpu running a 100% a lot?
[23:40] <steven_> i do acpi -t to make sure it's under 60 degrees C
[23:41] <steven_> is that okay though?
[23:42] <akaaka>  i know google is my friend, but i wonder if anyone have a really good tutorial to recommend me about formating and building bootable usb and hcsd stick
[23:43] <steven_> akaaka?
[23:44] <steven_> you making a bootable usb stick?
[23:44] <steven_> xubuntu 8.04?
[23:44] <akaaka> hcsd and usb.. i guess is the same method for both
[23:44] <akaaka> yeah
[23:44] <steven_> i am doing the exact thing right now
[23:44] <steven_> hold on
[23:44] <steven_> how big is usb stick
[23:44] <steven_> i can tell you how to make bootable usb stick
[23:45] <steven_> you familiar with command line?
[23:45] <akaaka> yeah
[23:45] <akaaka> its a 8gb
[23:45] <akaaka> and the hcsd its 4gb.
[23:46] <akaaka> but i want to know if its the same method
[23:46] <akaaka> to make usb and hcsd bootable
[23:46] <akaaka> i guess its the same thing
[23:46] <steven_> hcsd is a high capac secure dig?
[23:46] <steven_> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/21/usb-xubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[23:46] <steven_> worked perfectly for me
[23:46] <steven_> 2 times
[23:46] <akaaka> thx man
[23:47] <steven_> follow it to the t
[23:47] <steven_> i am using a 4 gb
[23:47] <steven_> and it's persistent
[23:47] <steven_> so it saves and you can boot into it again
[23:47] <steven_> you wanted xub 8.04.1?
[23:47] <steven_> that's exactly how to do it
[23:48] <akaaka> thx
[23:48] <akaaka> i will fallow the instructions
[23:48] <steven_> yep it works
[23:48] <steven_> glad to help
[23:49] <akaaka> thx i let you know
[23:49] <akaaka> if i stuck
[23:50] <akaaka> lol
[23:50] <akaaka> are you going to be here?