2008/07/29/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:18] <genii> Another bot on the loose MIRCBRAAD
[00:19] <Myrtti> you could report them straight to #freenode, I believe
[00:20] <genii> Myrtti: They all so far today have not been in any channels I am, just unsolicited PMs. I'll go there when the next one strikes :)
[00:20] <Myrtti> yup
[00:21]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee before he goes 
[00:21] <Myrtti> so they've got an agent on #ubuntu which proxies users to the actual sp...
[00:21] <Myrtti> oh well
[01:14]  * Flannel thinks cgibin is a troll (in -offtopic)
[01:16] <Myrtti> is any other -ot op awake than me?
[01:17]  * Myrtti pokes Pici
[02:36]  * Pici pokes the Myrtti 
[02:39]  * nalioth pokes the Pici 
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> stdin: whoohoo!
[03:38]  * nalioth sips his marmite tea
[07:19] <nalioth> Flannel: klined
[08:48] <Myrtti> HYVää HUOMENTA lapsukaiset ♥ ♥ ♥
[09:08] <Tm_T> menta
[09:13]  * Myrtti slaps Tm_T on the tush and grins
[10:51]  * Myrtti runs around her apartment and smiles wildly
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: looks wayyy too happy this morning
[10:53] <Myrtti> too happy? NEVAH
[11:01] <gnomefreak> anyone german or dutch for that matter
[11:01]  * Myrtti pinches gnomefreaks cheek
[11:01]  * gnomefreak not really sure how to search for trtanslation without knwon lang
[11:01]  * gnomefreak blushes
[11:02]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[11:02]  * jussi01 has dutch grandparents - can idetify dutch, but not speak it
[11:02]  * gnomefreak hugs grandpa Tm_T 
[11:02] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: <3
[11:02] <Myrtti> *squeek*
[11:03] <Myrtti> I wubs you all
[11:03] <Tm_T> atheros wifi drivers free? http://mobile.slashdot.org/mobile/08/07/26/2138228.shtml
[11:03] <gnomefreak> Umlaut öäüÖÄÜ?  is that dutch
[11:03] <jussi01> sigh, who can I kill?
[11:03] <Tm_T> jussi01: what's up, son?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> or russin
[11:03] <gnomefreak> both have crossed my mind
[11:03] <jussi01> usb doesnt mount n plugin anymore :(
[11:03] <jussi01> gnomefreak: many languages have umlauts - but yeah...
[11:04] <gnomefreak> jussi01: yeah == it is dutch?
[11:04] <jussi01> gnomefreak: umlaut is just the ? on top
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:05] <jussi01> gnomefreak: can you give me more context?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> jussi01: open a file with an Umlaut öäüÖÄÜ (like the attached one)
[11:07]  * gnomefreak doesnt like opening files without knowing what im downloading and opening
[11:07] <jussi01> gnomefreak: so open a file with one of those characters in the name...
[11:08] <gnomefreak> would have been nice if he told me more about OO.o as in word pesentation ect..
[11:09] <jussi01> gnomefreak: Id say that would help - is this a bug?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> jussi01: yes but i was ablet o reproduce already thanks for help
[11:16] <jussi01> :)
[11:22]  * Myrtti scream WOOOO
[11:22] <Myrtti> .--->
[11:22] <Tm_T> YAYYY!
[11:25] <Tm_T> smallfoot haven't come back lately, have you noticed?
[11:26] <Myrtti> not even on -se
[11:41] <jussi01> hrm, whats the easiest way to back up an entire hdd?
[11:41] <Tm_T> dd or cat?
[11:42] <ikonia> msg ubottu @blogin
[11:42] <ikonia> oops
[11:47] <gnomefreak> can someone please join #kubuntu if you are not already there. let me know if someone pms you
[11:47] <ikonia> on my way
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thanks
[11:48] <gnomefreak> name used to pm is dileep
[11:48] <ikonia> nothing yet
[11:49] <bazhang> he's in there
[11:49] <jussi01> nothing for me
[11:49] <bazhang> here either
[11:50] <gnomefreak> 06:46 <dileep> hello welcome
[11:50] <gnomefreak> this is in pm
[11:50] <gnomefreak> 06:46 <gnomefreak> hi, is there something i can help you with?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> 06:47 <dileep> yeah sure
[11:50] <gnomefreak> 06:47 <dileep>  hello help me to learn linux
[11:51] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu
[11:51] <ubottu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <jpds> So... not a bot.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> good i did give me right command
[11:51] <gnomefreak> jpds: nope
[11:51] <gnomefreak> but why me?
[11:51] <jussi01> gnomefreak: you are "special" :P
[11:51] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: "ubuntu/member" perhaps?
[11:51] <jpds> gnomefreak: Prehaps he saw thy velvet cloak?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> helping him learn linux can take months
[11:51] <gnomefreak> good point
[11:52] <Tm_T> heh
[11:52] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: bah, sorry, me and my mistabbing
[11:52] <gnomefreak> anyone have a few spare months to teach him linux?
[11:52] <Tm_T> not me
[11:52] <Tm_T> jussi01 makes sure of that <3
[11:53]  * jussi01 runs scared of Tm_T
[11:53] <Tm_T> jussi01: ...but you can't hide, son
[11:58] <bazhang> asking about developing gtk in kubuntu channel: priceless
[11:58] <ikonia> for everything else, there is mastercard....
[11:58] <bazhang> haha
[12:01] <jussi01> rofl
[12:03] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:04]  * gnomefreak wonders if Tm_T is dad who is mom? i want my mommy!!!!!
[12:04] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[12:05] <jussi01> gnomefreak: myrtti... :P
[12:06] <jussi01> gnomefreak: and Im big brother :P
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:16] <bazhang> gordboy in #ubuntu
[12:18] <jpds> Well, that's that.
[12:18] <bazhang> he'll surely be back
[12:18] <jpds> Yep
[12:19] <jpds> What does he want anyway?
[12:20] <bazhang> to replace all ubuntu maintainers
[12:20]  * jpds wonders where the "denied access" comes from.
[12:21] <gnomefreak> bazhang: not an op in #ubuntu?
[12:22] <bazhang> gnomefreak, sure; he has ceased-->is asking that question an instaban?
[12:23] <bazhang> he was warned then kicked and came back
[12:23] <bazhang> gooody got kicked (was gordboy)
[12:25]  * jpds left him a message.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> thanks
[12:25] <jpds> gnomefreak: I've banforwared gordboy here.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> bazhang: gooody was an accident
[12:25] <jussi01> sigh... [14:21:27] <flaccid> try os x :o
[12:25] <jpds> And gooody is now back in #u
[12:25] <gnomefreak> jpds: thanks i saw that after i banned him
[12:26] <gnomefreak> i remember that nick
[12:26] <gnomefreak> not sure why though
[12:26] <jpds> [!] mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*@host86-153-197-18.range86-153.btcentralplus.com]] by gnomefreak
[12:26] <jpds> One too many "]"s there
[12:26] <gnomefreak> oh damn i didnt see that
[12:26] <ikonia> is gooody gordboy ?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> no
[12:26] <jpds> Just remove the ban, he already has one bringing him here.
[12:27] <ikonia> good
[12:27] <bazhang> no gooody is good
[12:27] <gnomefreak> gordboy left before i started to ban him
[12:27] <jpds> bazhang: Oh, goodie!
[12:27] <gnomefreak> jpds: should it be removed or will it screw with your ban?
[12:27] <bazhang> haha
[12:27] <jpds> gnomefreak: The ban won't have any affect with that ] there.
[12:28] <gnomefreak> oh good
[12:35] <jussi01> -ot ops might want to look in..
[12:35] <Pici> hm?
[12:36] <jussi01> Pici: take a look in -offtopic
[12:36] <Pici> jussi01: just got here, looking.
[12:36]  * jussi01 should probably get some access there, but meh... 
[12:37] <gnomefreak> hes gone
[12:37]  * Hobbsee pokes Tm_T with a stick
[12:37] <Pici> gnomefreak: I see, thanks.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> hes really starting to get old with him
[12:37]  * jussi01 hugs gnomefreak
[12:37]  * gnomefreak hugs jussi01 
[12:40] <gnomefreak> hes in my pm now
[12:41] <jussi01> gnomefreak: have fun...
[12:43] <gnomefreak> wtf is that
[12:43] <ikonia> what a time waster
[12:44] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: kiitoksia, lapsikulta
[12:44] <gnomefreak> @host86-153-197*!#ubuntu-o*@* shouldnt that show up as ops
[12:44] <jpds> Looks like gnomefreak has a fan.
[12:45] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: who's your new fan?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> i dont know but if you mean gordboy he is leaving ubuntu ;)
[12:46] <Tm_T> oh no
[12:47] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: can I have some log?
[12:47] <Pici> gnomefreak: fixed.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: yes let me get it from logs
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Pici: thanks
[12:47] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: thanks, son
[12:47] <gnomefreak> acnt understand why i couldnt use -ops
[12:48] <Pici> Because your client didnt understand what you were trying to do.
[12:48] <Pici> I need to manually do forwards, I can't use my /csban aliases for that.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/503003
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Pici: i did manually do it
[12:49]  * Pici shrugs
[12:49] <gnomefreak> oh well crap happens
[12:49] <Pici> I mean, /mode +b n!u@h!#channel
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: and no i didnt reply. that is whole log using pastebinit to post it
[12:50] <gnomefreak> i used by typing it /mode +b @host86-153-197-18.range86-153.btcentralplus.com!#ubuntu-ops
[12:51] <gnomefreak> should have ban forwarded him
[12:51] <Pici> You forgot the *!* in front of it then.
[12:51] <jpds> *!*@ *
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ah thats right i wasnt using script :(
[12:52] <gnomefreak> damn i really do need coffee
[12:52] <Tm_T> hrrr
[12:52] <gnomefreak> brb making some
[12:52] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: I wonder how ##linux has to do with him
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: hes not really that important since he cant obey rules
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: dont know
[12:52] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[12:53] <Pici> ##linux has rules too
[12:53] <ikonia> got my eye on him
[12:53] <ikonia> there is guy in there feeding him though
[12:53] <ikonia> ooh and limcore is in there too, genius
[12:55] <Hobbsee> AlmightyCthulhu apparently hasn't learnt to be useful yet
[12:56] <ikonia> who ?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> he's bene in and out of here for a while, remember?
[12:56] <ikonia> there are so many....
[12:56] <jpds> Hobbsee: I'll watch -bugs
[12:57] <Hobbsee> jpds: \o/
[14:07] <Myrtti> Hello
[14:07] <Pici> Hi!
[14:13] <Myrtti> Yay. Phone crashed
[14:21] <Myrtti> How are we doing on this glorious day?
[14:22] <Myrtti> And, what has forums decided re almightycthulhu?
[14:23] <jpds> Myrtti: He went quiet after Hobb.see stepped her foot down.
[14:25] <Myrtti> Hm. I've got a bad feeling about his bans. We might end up having lots of troubles with the amount of publicity and image issues...
[14:34] <Pici> ah
[14:35] <Pici> O'
[14:35] <jpds> RLY?
[14:35] <Pici> er, I'm trying to figure out these logs.
[14:35] <jpds> Plenty of bot abuse in #u
[14:35] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[14:35] <Tm_T> hug me?
[14:35] <jpds> I did that.
[14:35]  * Pici hugs Tm_T 
[14:35] <Tm_T> <3
[14:35] <Pici> Was he banned from the forums? and came here to contest?
[14:37] <Myrtti> Yup
[14:37] <Tm_T> interesting
[14:37] <Hobbsee> jpds: yeah, thankfully.
[14:38] <Tm_T> I wonder why he was banned, all his doings are still available?
[14:38] <jussi01> so, wonderful ops, what is the stance on our favourite program, ultimatix?
[14:38] <Tm_T> jussi01: what's that?
[14:39] <Pici> automatix?
[14:39] <Tm_T> Pici: no cursing
[14:39]  * jussi01 thinks ultimatix sounds like it straight out of Asterix bookx
[14:39] <Pici> :X
[14:39] <elkbuntu> aww, i was just about to go to bed. why are you giving me nightmare fodder? :Þ
[14:40] <jpds> -> #ubuntu
[14:40] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: =)
[14:40] <jussi01> ultimatix is the successor to automatix
[14:40] <elkbuntu> ugh.
[14:40] <Pici> jussi01: ehh?
[14:41] <elkbuntu> i really dread to think what it does
[14:41] <Pici> me to
[14:41] <Pici> er, too /me needs more caffeine
[14:41] <Tm_T> jussi01: if it's not supported by us, it's not supported by us
[14:41] <jussi01> http://ultamatix.com/
[14:42] <jpds> Oh damn, the talk of it has moved to #ubuntu-uk already.
[14:42] <Hobbsee> jpds: why is that a case of damn?  surely that's a good thing, as less people are exposed.
[14:43] <elkbuntu> is it just me, or um... does the first few paragraphs of that site make little sense
[14:44] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: it's not you
[14:44] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: the whole site isn't making much sense
[14:45] <Tm_T> anyone find any indication of license?
[14:45] <jussi01> I pronounce Ultamatix evil!
[14:45] <jussi01> :P
[14:48] <Flannel> jussi01: That goes without saying
[14:49] <Tm_T> yeah
[14:49]  * jpds doesn't like the look of it.
[14:49] <Tm_T> I mean, seriously, not a single word about license
[14:50] <Flannel> Tm_T: AlmightyCthulhu's bans are available in the BT.  For the most part, they probably ought to be dropped (or at least, the ones a month ago, I have no idea what's happened recently with him)
[14:52] <Tm_T> roger
[14:53] <jussi01> @bansearch AlmightyCthulhu
[14:53] <ubottu> jussi01: Error: You don't have the bantracker capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[14:53] <jussi01> right...
[14:53] <jussi01> @admin capability add jussi01 bantracker
[14:53] <ubottu> jussi01: The operation succeeded.
[14:53] <jussi01> @bansearch AlmightyCthulhu
[14:53] <ubottu> jussi01: Match: *!*@c-69-245-242-199.hsd1.in.comcast.net by vorian in #ubuntuforums on Jun 17 2008 01:22:00 (ID: 1726)
[14:53] <ubottu> jussi01: Match: *!*@c-69-245-242-199.hsd1.in.comcast.net by ompaul in #ubuntu-offtopic on Jun 15 2008 09:37:59 (ID: 1673)
[14:54] <Pici> The only license info I can find is the following, but in the actual package "The packaging is (C) 2008, TheeMahn <theemahn@yahoo.com> and is licensed under the GPL, see `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'."
[14:54] <Tm_T> interesting
[14:54] <Tm_T> where's sources?
[14:54] <Tm_T> or do I have to load the deb and unpack it?
[14:54] <jpds> Tm_T: It looks like a bunch of python scripts
[14:54] <Tm_T> I see...
[14:55] <Pici> Yep.
[14:55] <jpds> And that copyright is wrong (in a way)
[14:55] <jussi01> yay for konqueror crashes ;(
[14:55] <Tm_T> ye, well, I cannot see why sources arent downloadable on site
[14:56] <Pici> Ugh. Lots of sudo apt-get --assume-yes --force-yes install $somepackages in /etc/ultamatix/ax_data/gutsy.autoscript
[14:56] <Pici> anyway, meeting time.
[14:56] <Tm_T> Pici: what did you expect? ;-P
[14:56] <jussi01> bleh
[14:56] <elkbuntu> eeep. bedtime. nite
[14:56] <jussi01> Do we need to get MJG to write a review of this one also?
[14:56] <Tm_T> jussi01: yes
[14:57]  * jussi01 should really go home...
[14:57] <elkbuntu> now *that* will be bedtime reading
[14:58]  * jpds blinks at the first few lines of http://pastebin.com/f100c6502
[14:59] <Tm_T> jpds: yeah, plays some "music" loudly when runned
[15:00] <elkbuntu> pygame?
[15:00] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, you braved it?
[15:00] <jussi01> ok, Im taking bets on the age of this prankster... :P
[15:00] <jpds> jussi01: Oi.
[15:00] <jpds> ;-)
[15:00] <jussi01> oops
[15:00] <elkbuntu> 14
[15:00]  * jussi01 hugs jpds
[15:01] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: nope, you can tell it by reading some forum posts and those few first lines
[15:01]  * jpds hugs jussi01 back.
[15:01] <jussi01> ok, off home
[15:01] <Tm_T> jussi01: must be 17
[15:01] <elkbuntu> really? what do they tell you?
[15:01] <Tm_T> jussi01: go go
[15:01] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: that they had earphones on, and ears bleeding after
[15:02] <jpds> elkbuntu: dpkg --info ultamatix-1.8.0-3_all.deb -> Maintainer: TheeMahn <theemahn2003@yahoo.com>
[15:02] <elkbuntu> the author is 5? :Þ
[15:03] <Tm_T> nope
[15:04] <Tm_T> but nice that he uses his own name ;)
[15:04] <elkbuntu> heh
[15:04] <jpds> whois ultamatix.com reveals all.
[15:05] <Tm_T> yeah, but, being packagemaintainer without your own name... hrrr
[15:06] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, that's what worries you?
[15:06] <elkbuntu> you see that script but the packagemaintainer name is what bothers you?
[15:06] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: no, it all worries me
[15:06] <elkbuntu> good
[15:06] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I'm about to trying lintian and linda etc with that package
[15:07] <elkbuntu> wear protective clothing
[15:07] <elkbuntu> or at least a raincoat
[15:07] <elkbuntu> they're going to puke all over you
[15:08] <gnomefreak> ultramatix == automatix?
[15:08] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: no, worse
[15:08] <elkbuntu> much worse
[15:08] <gnomefreak> oh god
[15:08] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: yes?
[15:08] <elkbuntu> you thought arnie was on crack....
[15:08] <gnomefreak> i said gog not dad
[15:08] <gnomefreak> god even
[15:08] <gnomefreak> he still is
[15:09] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: oh, but I'm both?
[15:09] <gnomefreak> ;)
[15:09] <elkbuntu> ok, granted. but this guy is on something much harder
[15:09] <gnomefreak> as long as we dont package it and noone uses it we should be fine
[15:09] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: but people does use it
[15:10] <gnomefreak> we should really hav ea sign on the door saying you sue this ask them for support
[15:10] <jpds> lintian ultamatix-1.8.0-3_all.deb | wc -l
[15:10] <jpds> 129
[15:10] <Tm_T> jpds: yeah
[15:10] <gnomefreak> we cant be reasonible for breackage if someone uses it
[15:10] <Tm_T> beautiful
[15:10] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: exactly
[15:10] <elkbuntu> hmm, nice typo, good idea
[15:10] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: sorry email for last ~4 hours
[15:10] <gnomefreak> hands are getting tired
[15:11] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[15:11] <elkbuntu> jpds, sums it up nicely
[15:12] <elkbuntu> ok, i really gotta go bed now. ninite
[15:12] <jpds> I wonder how he even managed to package it: E: ultamatix: debian-changelog-file-missing-or-wrong-name
[15:13] <Tm_T> http://pastebin.com/d373a6d82
[15:13] <Tm_T> I mean, seriously...
[15:16]  * Hobbsee blinks
[15:17] <Tm_T> I just love how they assume your architechture after so sophisticated check
[15:18] <gnomefreak> how about factoid something like using this app can result in no official support as it violates official Ubuntu usage standards. referring users or suggesting users use this may result in: first time warning 2nd time removal from chat 3rd time being banned for 24 hours
[15:18] <gnomefreak> its long but its just an outline
[15:18] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: sounds good
[15:19] <gnomefreak> oh and cause breakage during Ubuntu official updates due to depends
[15:19] <gnomefreak> but its still way too long,
[15:19] <gnomefreak> would say wiki but that would allow anyone to change it to thier liking
[15:19] <jpds> Maybe make a wiki page and link to it in the factoid?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> ;)
[15:20] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: awww, you know.... when installing restricted packages from ubuntu repositories, first rm -rf users gstreamer settings =)
[15:21] <Hobbsee> heh
[15:21] <Tm_T> oooo this is good, real good =)
[15:21] <gnomefreak> ut oh
[15:21] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: how good/bad/ugly?
[15:22] <gnomefreak> is there atleast a removal script or is it a .deb and what does it remove besides its own packages
[15:24] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[15:24] <ubottu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:24] <gnomefreak> well there goes that idea
[15:24] <gnomefreak> wrong bot name
[15:25] <ikonia> if the people who worked on systems like automatix put the effort into things like restricted driver manager, and synaptic the contribution would be fantastic
[15:25] <gnomefreak> !no automatix is <reply> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksorMe
[15:25] <ubottu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[15:26] <gnomefreak> anyone testing it maybe blog about it so we can point to blog?
[15:33] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: I dare not to test it myself, son
[15:34] <pleia2> gnomefreak: WorksorMe ?
[15:34] <pleia2> er
[15:34] <pleia2> WorksForMe
[15:34] <pleia2> missed the F
[15:36] <gnomefreak> !worksforme
[15:36] <ubottu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[15:36] <gnomefreak> pleia2: it was already there i just changed bot name
[15:37] <pleia2> gnomefreak: before it was /msg ubotu WorksForMe and now it's /msg ubottu WorksorMe
[15:37] <pleia2> I just doublechecked
[15:37] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: test == just look into what it does and how it does it no need to test it
[15:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu no longer is running seveas took it when he left
[15:38] <gnomefreak> is
[15:38] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: you missed F
[15:38] <pleia2> no, I'm saying the command is wrong, it has to be "WorksForMe" not "WorksorMe"
[15:38] <gnomefreak> oh damn
[15:39]  * Tm_T hugs pleia2 
[15:39]  * pleia2 hugs Tm_T 
[15:40] <gnomefreak> !no automatix is <reply> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe
[15:40] <ubottu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[15:40] <pleia2> :)
[15:40] <gnomefreak> fixed thanks for pointing it out
[15:40] <gnomefreak> ok off to cook carrots and get a real drink
[17:00] <energY> Hey
[17:00] <Pici> How can we help?
[17:01] <Pici> Yes.. its me again.
[17:01] <energY> Can someone kick 3 people from #ubuntu so it becomes 1337 people there?
[17:01] <Pici> ...
[17:01] <energY> Make that 4 people...
[17:01] <Pici> No.
[17:02] <energY> Pici: Where did I see you before?
[17:02] <Pici> energY: I was just talking to you in #defocus
[17:02] <energY> Oh, about netsplits
[17:03] <energY> So many nicks, hard to remember...
[17:03] <energY> So it isn't four bots or something we can kick?
[17:03] <Pici> no.
[17:04] <Pici> Do you have a serious question to ask here?
[17:05] <energY> Not reallt
[17:05] <energY> really*
[17:08] <Pici> energY: Please see the channel topic then.
[17:08] <energY> What is LoCo?
[17:09] <Pici> Local Ubuntu user groups.
[17:09] <energY> Like ubuntu norway?
[17:09] <Pici> Yes
[17:09] <energY> Does cities have their own ubuntu groups?
[17:12] <Pici> energY: Some do, but again, this really isnt the place to discuss it.  #ubuntu-locoteams might have more information for you or...
[17:12] <Pici> !loco
[17:12] <ubottu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[17:27] <Pici> !idle | energY
[17:27] <ubottu> energY: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[18:08] <Flannel> lovely that the only usage of LP for ultamatix is blueprints, and the only blueprint is "Fix all known issues Automatix had"
[18:09] <Tm_T> =)
[18:09] <ikonia> I don't like that
[18:09] <Pici> Where?
[18:09] <ikonia> why is there a blueprint for an automatix style product
[18:09] <ikonia> it's not needed
[18:09] <ikonia> or in my opinion wanted
[18:09] <Flannel> ikonia: Because 19 hours ago he decided he wanted to make a LP project
[18:10] <Flannel> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/theemahn2003
[18:10] <ikonia> I just wish for things like that people would work with the existing tools to improve them
[18:10] <Flannel> It might be possible to do that with this one.  He doesn't seem like a bad kid, just a little misguided.
[18:11] <ikonia> is this matt garrett posting this ?
[18:11] <Flannel> No, but the "blueprint" links to his blog, instead of an actual blueprint
[18:11] <ikonia> so it should be canned then
[18:11] <ikonia> thats not a blue print or a spec
[18:12] <ikonia> thats not what launhpad is for
[18:12] <ikonia> thats just a random page
[18:12] <Pici> The blueprint links to mjg59's post about automatix
[18:12] <ikonia> exactly, thats not a blue print
[18:12] <ikonia> thats not a "spec"
[18:12] <Flannel> Oh dear, now there's two blueprints
[18:12] <ikonia> and the post of "main only minor issues remain"
[18:13] <ikonia> this is joke and a waste or launchpad resources
[18:13] <Flannel> now there's three!
[18:13] <Flannel> somebody, make the bad man stop.
[18:13] <Flannel> mmm, no, still only two.
[18:14] <ikonia> this is silly there must be a standard / approval to submitting a project, surly,
[18:14]  * Flannel isn't comfortable with the new LP yet.
[18:14] <Pici> ikonia: nah, a joke was when jdong registered himself as a project. And put his "to-do's" in as milestones.
[18:14] <ikonia> Pici: this is beyond that, this isn't funny
[18:14] <Pici> Yeah. :(
[18:14] <ikonia> complete waste of time and resorources
[18:14] <ikonia> resources
[18:16] <Flannel> the scary thing is the praise you see when googling for it.
[18:16] <Pici> Because people don't know any better.
[18:17] <ikonia> I wonder if its worth talking to someone in launchpad
[18:18] <Pici> Probably not.
[18:18] <Flannel> Its definatey worth shooting theemahn an email, even if its not posted anywhere.
[18:20] <ikonia> as it currently stands it's not a project
[18:20] <ikonia> a spec is not a blog post
[18:20] <ikonia> and a release goal of "custom cusors"
[18:23] <ikonia> best thing ubuntu can do is distance them selves from this and not support/dicuss it as it will end up another automatix fight
[18:50]  * jpds walks slowly away from irc.
[18:50] <jpds> -irc*
[18:50] <Pici> I dont know what he is asking nor what he expects as an answer.
[18:51] <jpds> Exactly.
[19:34]  * jussi01 sighs
[19:35] <Pici> hm?
[19:35] <jussi01> Pici: I have a headache, a sore throat and just generally feel crap
[19:35] <Pici> jussi01: Well, thats not good.
[19:36] <ompaul> jussi01, some hot drinks, rest, and a lack of excitement :)
[19:36] <jussi01> hrm, hot drink, that could be good...
[19:39] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubottu, no, coffee =~ s/filtering/filtering hot/
[19:40] <Pici> !coffee =~s/filtering/filtering hot/
[19:40] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-ops, Pici said: !coffee =~s/filtering/filtering hot/
[19:40] <Pici> ...
[19:40] <Pici> @login
[19:40] <ubottu> Pici: The operation succeeded.
[19:40] <Pici> !coffee =~s/filtering/filtering hot/
[19:40] <ubottu> I'll remember that Pici
[19:40] <Pici> That was an important 'drop-everything' edit
[19:40] <ompaul> Pici, has escaped call the pici police
[19:40] <jussi01> !pici
[19:40] <ubottu> pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Send help!
[19:41] <Myrtti> hullo
[19:41] <Pici> ubottu does not like.
[19:41] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about does not like.
[19:41] <Pici> er, like.
[19:41] <Pici> er... LIE
[19:41] <jussi01> rofl
[19:42] <ompaul> Daviey, boooooooooooooooo
[19:42] <ompaul> it hints of thunder outside
[19:44] <Pici> I like thunder
[19:47]  * Myrtti hugs jussi01 
[19:49]  * PriceChild waves
[19:49]  * Myrtti hugs PriceChild too
[19:51] <ompaul> Pici, sorry I encouraged it
[20:06] <jussi01> !test
[20:06] <ubottu> Failed!
[20:07] <Pici> laggy bot today.
[20:24] <jussi01> mmm, lemon tea
[20:24] <Pici> hehe
[20:24] <Pici> 15:23:25 <?Deckard_Cain> I know that if you type /disco in IRC, it's supposed to enable rainbow color mode, but its not working for me for some reason
[20:24] <Pici> 15:24:08 [freenode] >>>> Deckard_Cain (n=dcain@12.104.204.211) has left #ubuntu [requested by Pici: "/disco"]
[20:45] <Myrtti> what antivirus was it again that you suggested
[20:45] <Myrtti> for windows
[20:45] <nalioth> avast
[20:45] <nalioth> avast.com
[20:45] <nalioth> free for personal use
[20:46] <Myrtti> the kid wants to keep her vista on the laptop - auntie Myrtti's PC hotline installs some el cheapo antivirus and backs off
[20:46] <nalioth> don't forget zonealarm free ( to block explorer.exe and any other malware from phoning home )
[20:47] <Myrtti> I'm SO FED UP WITH THESE FRIGGING WINDOWSES
[20:49] <jussi01> poor Myrtti, what happened to the good mood?
[20:49] <Myrtti> no comments
[20:50]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti
[20:51] <PriceChild> I'm up at 5 tomorrow :(
[20:51] <jussi01> PriceChild: damn, that sucks
[20:52] <PriceChild> I'm sure it'll be fun :D
[20:52] <PriceChild> I should make better use of the time I have for ubuntu.
[21:55] <ubottu> TiredWolf called the ops in #ubuntu (Lhvs)
[21:56] <Myrtti> mehs.
[21:59] <mneptok> ugh
[21:59] <mneptok> no, i don;t want to fly from Montreal to Tokyo for ONLY 2 DAYS
[22:21]  * Myrtti pokes Tm_T with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[22:21] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[22:23] <ompaul> Myrtti, I has a rules about windozez
[22:24] <Myrtti> ompaul: you don't do them
[22:24] <Myrtti> ompaul: I know
[22:24] <ompaul> Myrtti, I rescue your data - you look after yourself
[22:24] <ompaul> if you wants gnu I helps you
[22:24] <Myrtti> that's what I'm trying to do with F-secure Rescue CD
[22:24]  * ompaul hands Myrtti mount -t /dev/sda1 /windows -o force (see if I care - I can read it)
[22:24] <mneptok> Myrtti: what's the issue?
[22:25] <Myrtti> past viral infections
[22:25] <mneptok> ompaul: you know that has a high probability of data los, yesss?
[22:25]  * ompaul hands Myrtti mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /windows -o force (see if I care - I can read it)    (sorry typo)
[22:25] <mneptok> +s
[22:25] <ompaul> mneptok, yes you know you can't read this disk with dos
[22:25] <ompaul> mneptok, nor can you mount it
[22:25] <ompaul> you have one place left
[22:25] <ompaul> and you do it on the first mount
[22:25] <mneptok> ompaul: re-mount in Windows, unmount properly, neagte the need for -o
[22:26] <ompaul> mneptok, if and only if it will start on a windows box
[22:26] <ompaul> this disk is borked I do not understand it you want me to format y/n is the ms response to it
[22:26]  * ompaul grins
[22:26] <mneptok> Myrtti: if virii actually made it onto the machine, you should just re-install Windows
[22:27] <ompaul> Myrtti, better not -o force unless you are in bad place (last chance hotel)
[22:27] <ompaul> mneptok, reading the honourable man, from France and it makes it all good ;-)
[22:28] <ompaul> just in case you were wondering - /me is happier these days
[22:29] <ompaul> mneptok, the box I had access to for the last couple of hours would not repair under windows, would not mount under -t ntfs
[22:29] <ompaul> so currently the nice mans couple of thousand useful photos of kids and family are being rescued
[22:30] <ompaul> instructions left on how to shut down or install ubuntu when the copy action is complete
[22:30] <ompaul> his call if the latter I will help more tomorrow
[22:30] <ompaul> if not that is his call
[22:30] <mneptok> ompaul: rescued as in "your data is recovered" or rescued as in "you run Linux now?"
[22:30]  * Myrtti hears frogs
[22:30] <Myrtti> ribbit
[22:30] <ompaul> mneptok, your data is recovered
[22:30] <Myrtti> ribbit ribbit
[22:30] <ompaul> and in a safer place
[22:30] <mneptok> ompaul: :/
[22:30] <ompaul> mneptok, I tired
[22:30] <ompaul> tried even
[22:31] <ompaul> I tired after I tried
[22:31] <mneptok> is this person Irish?
[22:31] <ompaul> he runs one linux box
[22:31] <ompaul> he is
[22:31] <ompaul> in his office for web surfing
[22:31] <mneptok> makes sense, then. the Irish are better off begging for scraps from the table of first world countries than they are controlling their own destiny.
[22:31] <ompaul> office / shop
[22:32] <ompaul> hehe
[22:32] <mneptok> </flame_designed_to_promote_adoption>
[22:32] <mneptok> ;)
[22:32] <ompaul> well he knows how it works
[22:32] <ompaul> but he "invested in photoshop elements" and is addicted to it
[22:32] <mneptok> he just likes that Ballmer aftertaste?
[22:33] <ompaul> as I said he has xubuntu in the shop for logging onto web mail etc
[22:33] <ompaul> well I did not say xubuntu but anyway
[22:33] <ompaul> box is fast enough for ubuntu but he used to have a really slow one and I put xubuntu on it
[22:33] <ompaul> and he was happy with it
[22:34] <ompaul> so when he got a better box I just upgraded his xubuntu
[22:34] <Myrtti> I lurves gwibber ♥
[22:35] <ompaul> he saw hardy ubuntu tonight it was what I used to mount the faulty ntfs partition and get at his data - even safe mode command prompt would not let us get into the home directorys
[22:35] <ompaul> silly broken security model
[22:36] <ompaul> I can mount partition, I can see past your security though obsecurity
[22:37] <ompaul> drop the letter e if you want to spell that right
[22:37] <ompaul> mneptok, for fun: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/dictators_free_and_open_source_software
[22:52] <Flannel> nalioth: I prefer comodo for a firewall
[22:56] <Myrtti> MEH
[22:59] <nalioth> Flannel: i've not used windows since the year 2000 ( i'm going from memory )
[23:04] <Jadewolf> Can I be tested for some reason suddenly I can join #ubuntu and I didn't change any settings or upgrade.
[23:06] <Myrtti> oooookeys
[23:08] <Flannel> He wants to be tested for rabies?
[23:10] <Myrtti> WTH is /sajoin ?
[23:10] <Myrtti> should I know this?
[23:15] <nalioth> Myrtti: /help sajoin
[23:15]  * nalioth has no idea
[23:15] <Myrtti> apparently its forced join on some networks
[23:15] <Myrtti> /invite gone bad
[23:51] <MTecknology> I forgot how to make ubottu forward factoid changes...
[23:51] <MTecknology> !code is Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida
[23:51] <ubottu> MTecknology: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:51] <Pici> !code
[23:51] <ubottu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[23:51] <Myrtti> I'll do it!
[23:51] <Pici> okay!
[23:52]  * Pici moves over to make more room in the factoid factory