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[01:02] <vorian> evening |
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[01:03] <JontheEchidna> Oh hi, I was wondering how koffice was coming along. |
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[01:03] * JontheEchidna is just getting back himself |
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[01:06] <vorian> i havent looked at it since last night |
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[01:08] * vorian takes another look-see |
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[01:09] <vorian> JontheEchidna: I uploaded your plasma app today, you should have poked me about it |
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[01:10] <JontheEchidna> Oh, plasmoid-am4rok? |
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[01:10] <vorian> yes |
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[01:10] <JontheEchidna> Oh, um, well thanks. ;) |
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[01:11] <JontheEchidna> Did you get your system-status package uploaded? |
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[01:11] * JontheEchidna is quite happy with the number of plasmoids in Intrepid |
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[01:12] <vorian> yeah, a few days ago |
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[01:12] <vorian> fo realz! keep an eye out for new ones |
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[01:12] <jjesse__> JontheEchidna: thanks for closing a lot of the bugs i was working on... i haven't had much time for follow up and work on kubuntu/kde stuff lately |
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[01:12] <JontheEchidna> So far we've got plasmoid-weather, plasmoid-wifi, plasmoid-quickview, plasmoid-am4rok, and plasmoid-system-status |
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[01:12] <jjesse__> seriously thanks for taking the time |
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[01:12] <JontheEchidna> No problem. ;) |
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[01:14] * JontheEchidna is currently triaging kdebase-kde4 |
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[01:14] <JontheEchidna> Putting all the bugs that still apply in kdebase, and requesting infos on the ones that I can't reproduce |
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[01:16] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, though now that I'm using konqueror as my browser that makes it less convenient to test Konqi crashes... |
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[01:20] <JontheEchidna> Where did the ability to add an affected package in LP go? |
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[01:25] <jjesse> it disappeared in the wonderful upgrade to the new look and feel |
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[01:26] <JontheEchidna> Actually |
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[01:26] <JontheEchidna> if you change the source package in the url |
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[01:27] <JontheEchidna> and hit enter |
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[01:27] <JontheEchidna> It'll say that this bug isn't in the source package, and asks you if you want to open it there too |
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[01:42] <gnomefreak> what do i need to set my terminal to to view a .so file without it looksing like @@@@ all over it? |
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[01:46] <gnomefreak> ok gedit cant open it :( |
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[02:36] <yuriy> JontheEchidna: I thinks "also affects distribution"? |
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[02:36] <JontheEchidna> Oh hey, it is |
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[02:37] <yuriy> evening all |
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[02:43] <JontheEchidna> vorian: plasmoid-system-status has a new upstream release |
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[02:43] <vorian> eek |
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[02:43] <vorian> it's not even out of new yet! |
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[02:43] <JontheEchidna> lol |
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[04:59] <vorian> apachelogger: when you have a moment http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=darkroom |
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[08:30] <Riddell> seele: nice knm review |
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[08:38] <kduser> Going though it now :-) |
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[08:50] <Wubbbi> good morning everyone :D |
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[08:54] * kduser waves |
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[08:54] <Wubbbi> I have got a Crash on Intrepid: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28930/ Kubuntu or KDE bug? |
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[10:17] <Wubbbi> seems that everyone is still sleeping xD |
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[10:24] <Riddell> I expect that's an upstream crash |
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[10:25] <Wubbbi> Well i have reported it to #plasma and they have reported it ( as a Bug report ) to kde :) so my part is done :D |
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[11:15] <Wubbbi> I get a crash, when I try to watch Videos ( With Xine ) on Firefox. But the only massage I get is "Segmentation fault". Very strange. How to debug that? Terminal wont help |
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[11:19] <Wubbbi> on Konqueror it crashs too. So that is a Xine bug ( libxine 1.1.14-1ubuntu1 ) on Intrepid |
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[11:20] <Wubbbi> Konqueror shows me that: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28952/ |
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[11:20] <Wubbbi> any idea? |
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[12:43] <nixternal> mornin' |
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[12:46] <JontheEchidna> mornin' |
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[12:47] <Riddell> my inbox tells me that JontheEchidna wants to be a member |
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[12:47] <Riddell> we should convene the council for the solem and serious decision making process |
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[12:49] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm guessing there wouldn't be any problem if Edubuntu wanted to use our Drupal theme? |
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[12:51] <Riddell> ryanakca: nope |
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[12:51] <Riddell> the theme should be put under some suitable free licence |
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[12:51] * ryanakca nods, I'm not too sure what newz released it under |
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[12:51] <nixternal> Riddell: we should setup up a meeting for sometime soon |
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[12:51] <jussi01> Riddell: just so you know - that is me who asked for facebook friendship... (approval would be nice) :D |
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[12:54] <Nightrose> Riddell: on hardy since 4.1 RC 1 launching kde 3 programs launches the kde 4 version instead |
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[12:54] <Nightrose> launching from kickoff and krunner |
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[12:54] <Nightrose> patch got lost? |
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[12:56] * txwikinger wonders why Nightrose sends patches by mail :D |
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[12:56] <Nightrose> hmmm? |
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[12:56] <txwikinger> well.. the mail often loses things :D |
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[12:56] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: Also, looking for sponsorship for bug 248792 |
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[12:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 248792 in kdenetwork "Binary package knewsticker should be renamed to plasmoid-knewsticker" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248792 |
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[12:57] <Nightrose> ;-) |
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[13:02] * nixternal heads to work |
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[13:14] * Riddell lunches, back soon |
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[13:27] <smarter> all plasmoids should be named plasmoid-foo now? |
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[13:27] <JontheEchidna> Yes plz |
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[13:28] <JontheEchidna> Or that's the consensus that vorian, apachelogger and I came to |
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[13:28] <smarter> ;) |
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[13:28] <smarter> I'll fill a bug for my kepas package then |
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[13:28] <smarter> but we should ask Debian first imho |
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[13:28] <smarter> are they already packaging applets? |
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[13:29] <JontheEchidna> Don't know |
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[13:29] <JontheEchidna> Does debian's bug database even have a web interface? |
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[13:29] <JontheEchidna> for reporting? |
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[13:30] <smarter> nop |
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[13:30] <smarter> but asks in #debian-qt-kde@irc.oftc.net |
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[13:30] * JontheEchidna also has to go for now |
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[13:52] <seele> Riddell: thx |
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[14:29] <Wubbbi> hello :D |
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[14:43] <mooper> ello, I have a bit of a whine about firefox intergration if anyones interested |
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[14:48] <Hobbsee> mooper: don't whine. use that energy to start putting forth actual patches to fix it. |
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[14:49] <Hobbsee> there's already a spec about it, if you're interested - has been for a while. |
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[14:54] <Riddell> trouble with firefox is we tend to use konqueror, and the firefox guys tend not to use KDE |
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[14:54] <Riddell> but the spec is on their side not ours :) |
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[14:54] <Hobbsee> making firefox useful for those who *do* use it with kubuntu would be very useful, though |
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[15:00] <Riddell> yep |
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[15:22] <seezer> can i somehow find out which compilation flags had been used on compilation of binary packages? |
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[15:23] <seezer> or what I'm really interested in: do qt(4) packages get build with QT_NO_(DEBUG|WARNING)_OUTPUT? |
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[15:27] <yuriy> seezer: download the source for a package (apt-get source) and look at the debian/rules file |
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[15:28] <seezer> yuriy: ah ok - so what's not in the rules file isn't called from somewhere else? alright then, thanks |
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[15:30] <seezer> or do those cdbs files contain anything like that? |
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[15:34] <mooper> Riddell: Hobbsee: I dont think I have the skills to do anything usfulll |
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[15:34] <mooper> where is the spec? |
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[15:40] <Riddell> seezer: nothing shows up grepping the build log for OUTPUT |
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[15:40] <Riddell> mooper: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/firefox-kde-integration-intrepid |
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[15:40] <Riddell> "Assignee: None" |
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[15:40] <Riddell> ah well |
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[15:40] <seezer> Riddell: nice, thank you |
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[15:42] <smarter> IIRC someone is working on a Qt frontend for Firefox |
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[16:00] <mooper> Intrepid? |
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[16:00] <mooper> Iguana? |
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[16:00] <mooper> Ibex? |
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[16:00] <mooper> Iceland Scallop |
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[16:06] <Riddell> smarter: only the fifth such project to do that :) |
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[16:07] <mooper> Riddel: sadly, thats way beyond my skill level |
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[16:07] <mooper> which is only just enough for making a good cup of tea |
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[16:08] <smarter> Riddell: true :p |
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[16:08] <smarter> that reminds me, I should update the webkitkde package with a new snapshot |
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[16:15] <Riddell> smarter: I e-mailed Urs the SoC student working on it, he doesn't think it'll be good enough for intrepid unfortunately |
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[16:16] <smarter> oh :/ |
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[16:16] <smarter> we'll stick with khtml for the moment then, it's not that bad :p |
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[16:21] <Riddell> smarter: but do take new snapshots when you get time and there's notable changes |
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[16:22] <smarter> Riddell: I'll do, once I'll be a MOTU ;) |
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[16:22] <smarter> s/once/when/ |
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[16:22] <smarter> well, maybe once is appropriate in this context, don't know :P |
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[16:41] <smarter> bug #250551 << could someone please upload my fix? |
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[16:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 250551 in kvpm "FTBFS with 0.4.5b-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250551 |
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[16:46] <smarter> Riddell maybe? ;) ^ |
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[16:47] <Riddell> ok |
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[16:48] <smarter> thanks |
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[16:55] <Riddell> smarter: uploaded, mind and send the change to upstream |
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[16:55] <smarter> that's in my TODO list ;) |
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[17:12] * Arby wanders in looking for things to work on |
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[17:16] <Arby> Riddell: do we have things that need packaging? |
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[17:17] <Riddell> Arby: there's a ktorrent merge on dholbach's sponsoring list |
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[17:17] <Arby> ok I'll look into it, is this a new list of some kind? |
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[17:17] <Riddell> webpage |
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[17:18] <Riddell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/ |
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[17:18] <Riddell> it's for ktorrent-kde4 but we use ktorrent as the package name now so dunno if it's needed or not |
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[17:18] <Arby> I'll look |
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[17:24] <Half-Left> Hello, can I speak to a packager who does KDE4? |
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[17:26] <Riddell> that'll be us |
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[17:26] <Half-Left> hi, I heard you package svg's with the Oxygen icons? |
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[17:27] <Riddell> seems so, I should probably remove them to make some CD space |
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[17:28] <Half-Left> ok but you shouldn't because they are suorces only and will save you lots of bandwith |
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[17:29] <Arby> Riddell: short summary, ktorrent 3.1.1 is released, intrepid has 3.1~rc1, hardy has 3.0.1 |
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[17:30] <Arby> Riddell: I assume we want intrepid updated, do we want 3.1.1 backported to hardy as well? |
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[17:31] <Riddell> Arby: yes we want intrepid updated, ktorrent-kde4 source package should be removed, I don't use backports so I can't say I'm fussed :) |
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[17:31] <Riddell> Half-Left: looks like we just install usr/share/icons/oxygen/* in kdebase-runtime currently |
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[17:31] <Riddell> Half-Left: so not installing the .svgz files would be good |
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[17:32] <Riddell> Half-Left: what's your interest? |
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[17:32] <Half-Left> I do artwork for KDE4 |
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[17:32] <Riddell> bling bling |
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[17:32] <Half-Left> 4.2 actaully |
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[17:32] <Arby> Riddell: I'll do intrepid first. How do I get ktorrent-kde4 removed, use 'Replaces' in debian/control? |
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[17:33] <Riddell> Arby: replaces and conflicts yes, and file a bug on ktorrent-kde4 asking for removal subscribing ubuntu-archive |
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[17:33] <Arby> Riddell: thanks |
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[17:33] <Riddell> Half-Left: do you know who added all the new mouse themes to 4.1? |
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[17:34] <Half-Left> nope |
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[17:34] <Half-Left> oh |
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[17:34] <Half-Left> yes |
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[17:34] <Half-Left> Think it was Ruphy or pinheiro |
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[17:35] <toma> yeah, upstream |
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[17:37] <Riddell> they seem a bit excessive for kdebase, for the same space reasons |
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[17:38] <toma> splitting them off to something like oxygen-cursors makes sense |
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[17:39] <jtechidna> By the way, I'm backporting kdebindings-kde4 for the hardy ppa |
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[17:39] <Riddell> that's what I did with the wallpapers |
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[17:39] <Riddell> jtechidna: good luck! |
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[17:39] <Riddell> jtechidna: where did you get to with koffice? |
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[17:40] <Riddell> rediscovering kdeartwork would be good though |
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[17:40] <jtechidna> We fixed the FTBFS and ran into a few more which we also fixed |
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[17:40] <jtechidna> But it takes 6 hrs to build on my computer so vorian is doing the testbuildign |
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[17:40] <Riddell> mm, it's a beast to build |
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[17:40] <jtechidna> and I don't know if the latest works built yet |
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[17:40] <jtechidna> *builds |
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[17:40] <Riddell> jtechidna: you mean kde4bindings ? |
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[17:41] <jtechidna> koffice2 |
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[17:41] <jtechidna> It took 15 mins for it to get to 3% built on my computer |
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[17:41] <jtechidna> vorian's computer can do it in an hour |
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[17:41] <jtechidna> So he's doing the testbuilding |
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[17:41] <Riddell> right, I changed the subject |
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[17:42] <Riddell> jtechidna: you mean kde4bindings rather than kdebindings-kde4 ? |
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[17:42] <jtechidna> right |
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[17:42] <Riddell> good good |
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[17:43] <ryanakca> Could someone look at 233972 please? |
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[17:43] <ryanakca> bug 233972 , unsure if I merged it properly |
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[17:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 233972 in kde-style-qtcurve "Please merge kde-style-qtcurve 0.55.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233972 |
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[17:46] <Riddell> ryanakca: looking |
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[17:46] <Riddell> ryanakca: looks groovy, uploading |
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[17:47] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm pointing to the ``skipping'' patch part... |
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[17:48] <ryanakca> or is that just during the debian/rules clean section, it notices that it isn't applied, so skips unapplying it? (I'm not too familiar with just plain patch) |
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[17:52] <Riddell> ryanakca: yes that's fine |
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[17:52] <ryanakca> ok, thanks :) |
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[17:55] <ryanakca> Riddell: also, feel free to tweak the sentence describing the kubuntuway forums |
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[17:57] <Riddell> "yet another forum" |
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[17:59] <ryanakca> done. Also, how hard would it be to patch out the logout dialog options, where could I get the sources to do so, and what options need to be patched out? I'm guessing this is for KDE4? |
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[18:09] <Riddell> ryanakca: yes KDE 4 |
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[18:09] <Riddell> not sure how hard, it depends if the menu just calls "logout dialog" or if it calls "shutdown" or "restart" or the specific option |
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[18:10] <Riddell> I think the code is shutdowndlg.cpp from ksmserver |
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[18:11] <Riddell> it would also be worth investigating why upstream hasn't got it showing only the one option as picked from the kmenu |
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[18:12] * ryanakca nods |
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[18:14] <Riddell> ryanakca: probably best remove the "yet", it's a bit too derogitory |
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[18:15] * ryanakca switches it back |
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[18:15] <toma> opensuse shows only the option selected from the kmenu |
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[18:25] <apachelogger> Oo |
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[18:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=darkroom I am wondering what that thing is doing |
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[18:25] <apachelogger> oh |
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[18:25] <apachelogger> re |
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[18:25] <apachelogger> btw |
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[18:25] <apachelogger> ;-) |
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[18:25] <Nightrose> haha |
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[18:25] <Nightrose> yea yea... |
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[18:27] <apachelogger> hm |
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[18:27] <apachelogger> actually quite boring |
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[18:27] <apachelogger> vorian: typo: Description: immage manipulation tool |
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[18:35] <apachelogger> vore: line 6 in control has a trailing whitespace which makes it exceed 80 characters :P |
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[18:39] <apachelogger> vorian even |
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[18:39] <apachelogger> vore: sorry |
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[18:40] <apachelogger> vorian: in the manpage: for the \fBKubuntu GNU/Linux\fP system. ---- please use 'the Kubuntu system' since that is the official naming |
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[18:41] <jtechidna> PyKDE sorta takes a long time to build |
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[18:41] * jtechidna runs off to do other things |
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[18:42] <apachelogger> jtechidna: dude, you have no idea how long all of kdebindings would take :S |
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[18:46] <apachelogger> vorian: and please tell upstream that DocPath in the desktop file should be X-KDE-DocPath, that Terminal=0 should use a boolean and the genericname is _far too_ generic |
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[18:50] <DRebellion> apachelogger, could I ask you something about posterazor? |
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[18:50] <apachelogger> DRebellion: I don't even know what that is, but you can certainly ask me ;-) |
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[18:51] <apachelogger> smarter: archived kvpm ppa1 upload to revu |
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[18:51] <apachelogger> smarter: what's the status of foxkit? |
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[18:53] <apachelogger> DRebellion: btw, what is the status of monkeystudio? |
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[18:54] <DRebellion> apachelogger, heh, it's another package i'm working on. The current version released on the website is 1.5, however this has a problem with gcc-4.3. The upstream developer has fixed it in a version called 1.5.1, however he has not been able to test the new package under os x yet (only win32 and linux). He has given me a link to the new, unreleased source package, http://www.casaportale.de/lagerraum/PosteRazor-1.5.1-Source.zip , which |
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[18:54] <DRebellion> I have prepared and builds fine. Can I upload that package, or should I wait (it's been a couple of weeks) for it to be released after mac testing? |
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[18:54] <DRebellion> apachelogger, the package is ready, but the current release fails to build under amd64. |
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[18:54] <DRebellion> upstream says the dev branch works, but i can't test |
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[18:55] <DRebellion> also, the dev branch uses a debugging binary, etc, other oddities, etc. |
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[18:55] <DRebellion> so I am waiting for the next full release. |
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[18:55] <apachelogger> technically you will have to wait for the official release |
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[18:55] <DRebellion> =( |
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[18:55] <apachelogger> upstream could just release the source |
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[18:55] <DRebellion> ok |
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[18:55] <apachelogger> and if it doesn't work on osx |
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[18:56] <apachelogger> push 1.5.2 and skip the .1 release for osx |
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[18:56] <apachelogger> you might suggest that |
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[18:56] <DRebellion> I will bug upstream and ask them to do a release for win32 and linux only then. |
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[18:56] <DRebellion> s/them/him :P |
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[18:56] <apachelogger> ...or just don't tell anyone that it isn't official released, maybe none notices ;-) |
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[18:56] <DRebellion> hehe |
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[18:57] <apachelogger> vorian: status of kio-ftps? |
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[18:58] <smarter> hey apachelogger |
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[18:59] * apachelogger waves to smarter |
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[18:59] <smarter> apachelogger: yeah, sorry for the upload to revu |
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[19:00] <apachelogger> ryanakca: archiving qtcurve on revu |
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[19:00] <smarter> I've not touched foxkit for sometimes now, I'll probably finish it soon, but first I've to make that why-I-think-I-should-be-a-motu page |
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[19:01] * jtechidna fears for the amount of time kdebindings will take' |
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[19:01] <smarter> jtechidna: a lot |
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[19:01] <jtechidna> Hmm, it's up to PyQT4 now |
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[19:01] <jtechidna> *Qt |
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[19:05] <jtechidna> Bah, python plasmoids won't be supported until 4.2 is released |
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[19:06] <jtechidna> well, support will come in the pre-releases |
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[19:06] * jtechidna sighs -_- |
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[19:06] * apachelogger is singing ruby ruby ruby |
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[19:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did I upload konq-plugins yet? |
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[19:19] <JontheEchidna> Don't think so; did you ever get the email? I got a reutrn message saying that delivery was delayed or somethign |
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[19:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ^ |
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[19:20] <apachelogger> oh well |
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[19:20] <apachelogger> I just hope you didn't break anything :P |
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[19:20] * apachelogger uploads |
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[19:20] * JontheEchidna never figured out how he was supposed to use them |
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[19:22] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: konqueror -> tools |
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[19:22] <apachelogger> or settings -> configure extensions to activate/deacitvate them |
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[19:22] <apachelogger> depends alot on the plugin really |
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[19:23] * JontheEchidna can only see a Text-to-speech one |
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[19:23] * JontheEchidna hopes that isn't bad |
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[19:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you actually install any plugin? :P |
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[19:26] <JontheEchidna> I installed the debs that debuild spit out |
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[19:27] <JontheEchidna> all of 'em |
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[19:34] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: maybe you use the wrong cdbs again? ;-) |
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[19:35] <JontheEchidna> ;) |
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[19:42] <Arby> Riddell: ktorrent update done, files are on lichts |
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[19:43] <Arby> is the backport worth doing? |
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[19:43] <JontheEchidna> does it fix the crash on exit? |
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[19:44] <JontheEchidna> If it does, the backport would fix a crash. :P |
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[19:44] <Arby> what crash on exit? |
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[19:44] <JontheEchidna> KTorrent 3.0.1 crashes on exit in Hardy |
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[19:44] <Arby> ok let me check the changelog |
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[19:45] <JontheEchidna> http://saroengels.blogspot.com/2008/07/sweet-dreams.html <- Plasma on windows |
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[19:46] <Riddell> Arby: there's no .orig .dsc .diff.gz on lichts |
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[19:46] <Arby> hmm, odd |
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[19:48] <Riddell> oh, wiat |
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[19:50] <JontheEchidna> Bah, kde4bindings ftbfs |
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[19:50] <JontheEchidna> missing files.... |
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[19:51] <JontheEchidna> Oh, I guess I wasn't supposed to /usr/lib/kde4 that one |
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[19:53] <JontheEchidna> debuild -nc will make it not do a make clean, correct? |
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[19:53] <Riddell> yes |
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[19:54] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: fix it then run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list0missing |
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[19:54] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: fix it then run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing |
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[19:54] <Riddell> repeat until it doesn't complain then debuild -nc |
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[19:56] <JontheEchidna> Woo, that was the only one |
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[19:56] <Arby> JontheEchidna: there's nothing obvious here about fixing a crash on exit |
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[19:56] <JontheEchidna> hmm... |
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[19:56] <Arby> did you have a specific bug number |
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[19:56] <Arby> brb |
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[19:57] <JontheEchidna> just a second |
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[19:58] <JontheEchidna> Arby: bug 227932 |
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[19:58] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 227932 in ktorrent-kde4 "Ktorrent-kde4 crashes after shutdown of closing" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227932 |
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[19:59] <Arby> JontheEchidna: thanks |
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[19:59] * JontheEchidna injects humor: |
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[19:59] <JontheEchidna> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/i-can-fix-thiz-sorta.jpg |
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[20:00] <JontheEchidna> (Disclaimer, I probably couldn't fix that crash :P) |
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[20:02] <Arby> :) |
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[20:05] <JontheEchidna> and kde4bindings builds! |
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[20:05] <JontheEchidna> :D |
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[20:06] <Nightrose> jcastro: hey :) just gone through brainstorm again and there are a lot of amarok ideas that can be closed as wontfix basically or could use an upstream comment - can you get me admin rights to do that? |
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[20:06] <Nightrose> or is that not possible yet? |
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[20:06] <jcastro> Nightrose: I can't personally give you admin rights, but nand or stgraber can |
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[20:06] <jcastro> I think nand is on holiday though |
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[20:07] <Nightrose> ok |
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[20:07] <Nightrose> thx |
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[20:07] <jcastro> no worries, thanks for looking after them! |
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[20:07] <Nightrose> :) |
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[20:09] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: can I send kde4bindings 4.0.98~hardy~ppa1 over to you? |
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[20:10] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: sure |
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[20:10] <Arby> JontheEchidna: no real idea whether 3.1.1 fixes that bug or not |
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[20:10] <Arby> best solution is probably to do the backport and tet to find out |
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[20:10] <Arby> s/tet/test/ |
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[20:10] * JontheEchidna agrees |
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[20:10] <Wubbbi> hello to everyone :D |
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[20:12] <JontheEchidna> Hi |
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[20:13] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: is there something easy to fix? I want to learn more :D. Now I know hoe to creat a gpg and how the get a source and how to edit a file :D |
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[20:13] * JontheEchidna can't think of anything |
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[20:13] <JontheEchidna> But that's good I guess :P |
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[20:13] <Wubbbi> guess what? |
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[20:13] <JontheEchidna> what? |
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[20:14] <Wubbbi> ohhh ... I have read wrong xD sorry |
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[20:19] <yuriy> Wubbbi: look at bugs and see what there is you can fix! |
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[20:19] <Wubbbi> hihi ^^ |
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[20:20] <yuriy> Wubbbi: maybe start with bugs tagged bitesize or packaging |
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[20:20] <Wubbbi> how to searc for bug? It's a bit difficult on Launchpad :/ |
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[20:20] <Wubbbi> search |
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[20:22] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: can I use created GPG-Keys always or just one time? |
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[20:22] <JontheEchidna> always |
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[20:22] <Wubbbi> ahhh ok good to know :) |
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[20:23] <Wubbbi> thx |
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[20:24] <yuriy> Wubbbi: go to bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and go to the advanced search. there you can put in keywords, what status you want, and what tags you want |
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[20:27] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent |
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[20:32] <Wubbbi> yuriy: ahhh thank you :D |
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[20:34] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, I should probably backport kdeutils and kdesdk next |
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[20:38] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please add libzip-dev to kdeutils |
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[20:38] <apachelogger> otherwise ark doesn't support zippy files |
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[20:39] <Arby> if I'm backporting ktorrent3.1.1 to hardy should I name the package ktorrent or ktorrent-kde4? |
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[20:39] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: This was I bug, I had today too :) |
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[20:40] <apachelogger> Arby: -kde4 |
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[20:40] <Arby> thanks |
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[20:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bindings uploaded |
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[20:42] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: Is it easy to add libzyp-dev to kdeutils? If it was can I do this? :D |
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[20:50] <Arby> ktorrent3.1.1/debian has gained several files that don't exist in 3.0.x /debian |
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[20:51] <Arby> is it safe to just copy those files across |
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[20:51] <Arby> or is that likely to break things |
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[20:51] <Arby> for example .install .lintian .postinst.debhelper |
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[20:51] <Arby> quite a few actually |
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[20:59] <smarter> apachelogger: I've finally updated my wiki page :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GuillaumeMartres |
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[20:59] * Wubbbi klapps his hands for smarter |
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[20:59] <Wubbbi> :D |
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[21:00] <smarter> :) |
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[21:01] <Wubbbi> smarter: You are just 15 years old? oO .. so younger than me ^^ |
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[21:02] <apachelogger> Arby: depends on the files' content really |
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[21:02] <apachelogger> .lintian only overrides lintian overrides for example |
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[21:02] <apachelogger> .install probably needs path changes |
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[21:03] <apachelogger> smarter: https://edge.launchpad.net/~smarter/+packages is changing |
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[21:03] <Arby> apachelogger: does it seem reasonable to copy them and see what debuild complains about? |
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[21:03] <apachelogger> smarter: like when someone uploads a newer version to intrepid the packages will disappear |
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[21:04] <apachelogger> smarter: so I suggest to actually protocol all your work |
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[21:04] <smarter> apachelogger: ok |
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[21:04] <apachelogger> Arby: if you can upload to the ppa -> no, if you can't -> yes ;-) |
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[21:05] <Arby> I can't so I'll go with that option |
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[21:05] <apachelogger> Arby: I think only the .install files should require changes |
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[21:05] <apachelogger> adding /usr/lib/kde4/ as prefix to everything |
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[21:05] <Arby> apachelogger: I was expecting those |
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[21:06] <Arby> also I'm confused by the debian changelogs, let me pastebin |
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[21:06] * apachelogger is updating the kde.org content |
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[21:06] <apachelogger> Arby: is there already a backport? |
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[21:08] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna seems to sleep xD |
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[21:08] <Arby> apachelogger: no, newest in hardy is 3.0.1, I'm working on 3.1.1 |
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[21:09] <apachelogger> Arby: yeah |
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[21:09] <apachelogger> just copy the official changes since 3.0.1 at the beginning of the new backport |
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[21:09] <apachelogger> and add your backport entry |
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[21:10] <Arby> ok |
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[21:11] * JontheEchidna was away |
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[21:11] <Wubbbi> hihi ^ |
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[21:11] <Wubbbi> ^ |
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[21:11] * JontheEchidna won't be going to sleep for another 6 hours :P |
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[21:11] <Wubbbi> lol |
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[21:12] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: Is it easy to add libzyp-dev to kdeutils? If it was can I do this? :D |
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[21:13] <JontheEchidna> That's not all that has to be done |
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[21:13] <Arby> apachelogger: does this look ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/29092/ |
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[21:13] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: :( |
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[21:14] <apachelogger> Arby: sure |
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[21:14] <Arby> thanks |
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[21:14] <apachelogger> it doesn't really matter all that much for the ppa ;-) |
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[21:14] <Arby> I still prefer to do it right so that I understand when it does matter :) |
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[21:16] <Wubbbi> Well If i have nothing to do, let me go to bed ... Its 22:15 o'clock ^^ see you tomorw :D |
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[21:16] <Wubbbi> tomorow |
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[21:16] <Wubbbi> I'm very tired |
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[21:16] <JontheEchidna> 16:16 here |
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[21:25] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: oh crap, I think I know why I can't find any of the plugins |
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[21:25] <JontheEchidna> I forgot to rename the .install files |
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[21:25] <apachelogger> *thumbsup* |
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[21:25] <apachelogger> :P |
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[21:27] <apachelogger> "KDE is a very big project" or "KDE is a very large project"? |
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[21:27] <JontheEchidna> Both work, afaik. But I think the latter is more "proper". |
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[21:28] <JontheEchidna> you could even go with "KDE is a rather expansive project" |
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[21:28] <apachelogger> simplified english |
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[21:28] <raphink_> "KDE is a big bunch of code" |
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[21:28] <JontheEchidna> "a series of tubes" |
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[21:28] <apachelogger> tubes ftw |
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[21:30] <raphink_> "KDE is a big stuff with tons of programs" |
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[21:32] <Daskreech> KDE is a group of three letters. Please enjoy |
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[21:41] * Arby is having problems with patches |
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[21:41] <Arby> ktorrent backport fails to build with http://paste.ubuntu.com/29101/ |
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[21:42] <smarter> trying to stop smoking? :} |
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[21:42] <Arby> the patch is against 3.1.1 and doesn't exist in 3.0.1 |
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[21:42] <Arby> :P |
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[21:42] <Arby> I have no idea how to deal with that |
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[21:42] <smarter> apachelogger: updated my wiki page, again :P |
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[21:45] <apachelogger> smarter: perfect |
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[21:46] <apachelogger> smarter: now you just need some wicked photo so that we can buy you a coke when meeting :-P |
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[21:46] <smarter> I'll try to find one ;) |
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[21:47] <smarter> so, what is the process to become a master of da universe now? |
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[21:47] <apachelogger> that is a very good question |
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[21:47] * apachelogger is totally confused by the new contributors thingy |
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[21:47] * JontheEchidna just does what he keeps doing |
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[21:47] <apachelogger> but as I understand it - first you need to apply as ubuntu contributor |
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[21:48] <smarter> launchpad group? |
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[21:48] <apachelogger> which is basically yet another form of ubuntu membership |
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[21:48] <apachelogger> smarter: motu-council |
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[21:48] <JontheEchidna> Question: to autostart .destkop files get /usr/lib/kde4'd? |
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[21:48] <apachelogger> and the fact that it is basically an ubuntu membership makes we wonder whether one has to apply for that thing even if already approved as ubuntu member |
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[21:49] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: everything |
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[21:49] <apachelogger> \sh: are you around? |
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[21:49] <JontheEchidna> not application .deskotp files |
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[21:49] <smarter> hmm |
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[21:49] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: every file |
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[21:49] <apachelogger> smarter: best thing is to ask in ubuntu-motu |
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[21:50] <apachelogger> but I think you need to apply for contributor |
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[21:50] <apachelogger> then contribute |
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[21:50] <apachelogger> and then become motu |
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[21:50] <smarter> apachelogger: I'll ask that tomorrow, it's late here (: |
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[21:50] <apachelogger> tell me about it :P |
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[21:50] <smarter> g'night everybody |
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[21:50] <apachelogger> nini smarter |
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[21:51] <jpds> bonsoir smarter |
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[21:51] <Arby> apachelogger: if it's not too late could you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/29101/ |
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[21:51] <Arby> I'm confused by this patch |
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[21:52] <Arby> it's new in 3.1.1 and it's blocking this backport from building |
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[21:52] <Arby> and I can't find anything in the changelog to say what it actually does |
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[21:53] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent you new konq-plugins |
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[21:54] <Arby> starting to think this may be beyond my skills :( |
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[21:57] <apachelogger> Arby: take a look at the patch and at the patched files |
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[21:58] <apachelogger> maybe it got applied upstream |
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[21:58] <apachelogger> though |
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[21:58] <apachelogger> how did it apply |
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[21:58] <apachelogger> very strange issue I have to say |
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[21:58] <Arby> what do you mean by how did it apply? |
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[21:59] <Arby> it's probably my fault, there's quite a lot of difference in /debian between 3.0.1 and 3.1.1 |
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[22:00] <apachelogger> Arby: well, just get a clean source tree (i.e. extact the orig tarball again) and copy your debian/ in |
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[22:00] <apachelogger> then it should be working |
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[22:02] <Arby> apachelogger: good call, somewhere between beta and final the patch got rolled into the main source |
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[22:02] <Arby> should have thought of that |
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[22:05] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: forgot I was still debuilding before sending the new konq-plugins, lol |
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[22:05] * JontheEchidna did something wrong... |
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[22:07] * apachelogger thinks that JontheEchidna needs upload rights to the ppa to get that special feeling when users come after one because everything is broken :P |
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[22:07] <JontheEchidna> what the heck? |
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[22:07] <JontheEchidna> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/config/translaterc': No such file or directory |
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[22:07] <JontheEchidna> jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/ubuntu/konqplugins-hardy/konq-plugins-kde4-4.1~svn831460$ dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing |
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[22:07] <JontheEchidna> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/config/translaterc': No such file or directory |
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[22:07] <JontheEchidna> Ooh, I see, extra / |
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[22:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: correct cdbs? |
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[22:07] <apachelogger> not the extra / it is |
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[22:08] <JontheEchidna> hmm, nevermind |
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[22:08] * JontheEchidna has correct cdbs |
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[22:08] <Riddell> Arby: ktorrent uploaded thanks, please close that bug on the sponsoring bit saying thanks for his contribution |
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[22:09] <Arby> Riddell: thanks for uploading |
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[22:09] <Arby> Riddell: do you still want me to file a bug about removing ktorrent-kde4? |
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[22:10] <Riddell> Arby: oh aye please. my archive day tomorrow so I'll do that and some more |
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[22:11] <apachelogger> the some more is hopefully amarok-kde4 ;-) |
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[22:11] <apachelogger> alpha2 coming up |
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[22:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/project.php |
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[22:12] * JontheEchidna is 100% sure he has correct cdbs, but is still running into the ftbfs |
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[22:12] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: just comment out that install line |
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[22:12] <Nightrose> apachelogger++ |
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[22:12] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: once it built run make -f debian/rules list-missing |
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[22:13] <Arby> Riddell: actually, does the sponsoring bug count as closed, the users experiencing it are on hardy not intrepid |
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[22:13] <Arby> so unless I can make this backport build the fix won't reach them |
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[22:13] <Arby> I'm sure you're right, just trying to understand |
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[22:14] <apachelogger> Nightrose: did you do any pushing on accessibility yet? |
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[22:14] <Nightrose> nope |
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[22:14] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, looks like kdeutils might be a long builder too |
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[22:15] <apachelogger> Arby: grab the intrepid source and try to build it in hardy-backports enabled chroot |
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[22:16] <apachelogger> if it builds against kdelibs 4.0.x we can do a hardy-backports backport |
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[22:16] <apachelogger> otherwise we have to go with the kde4 ppa |
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[22:16] * JontheEchidna notes that 4.1 final is tagged tomorrow. |
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[22:16] <apachelogger> hm |
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[22:17] <Arby> apachelogger: ok, I think I'm going to have start over anyway, I've made a mess of this |
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[22:17] <apachelogger> ^_^ |
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[22:17] <JontheEchidna> Is 4.1 going to Hardy backports? |
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[22:17] <apachelogger> ah right, we can't do an officlal backpot anyway |
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[22:17] <apachelogger> *backport |
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[22:18] <JontheEchidna> oh well |
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[22:19] * JontheEchidna hopes Intrepid becomes stable-ish soon |
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[22:19] <apachelogger> it isn't? |
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[22:20] <JontheEchidna> ...in regards to 3D and proprietary drivers |
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[22:20] * JontheEchidna hugs KWin |
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[22:20] <apachelogger> hm |
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[22:20] <apachelogger> if |
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[22:20] <apachelogger> they would use that dkms thingy from dell |
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[22:20] <apachelogger> there wouldn't be any problem |
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[22:20] <JontheEchidna> dkms? |
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[22:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: dynamic kernel module support |
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[22:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://linux.dell.com/projects.shtml#dkms |
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[22:21] <JontheEchidna> sounds... dynamic! |
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[22:21] <sebas> apachelogger: if the proprietary drivers actually work with new xorg and kernel, dkms would work as well |
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[22:21] <Arby> Riddell: before I do the subscription, do you need more info than this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent-kde4/+bug/250626 |
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[22:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 250626 in ktorrent-kde4 "Please remove ktorrent-kde4 from intrepid" [Undecided,New] |
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[22:21] * sebas is just trying newest ati w/ 2.6.26 |
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[22:21] <apachelogger> sebas: nvidia works ;-) |
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[22:22] <apachelogger> and even then... we all got an intel onboard chip, right? ;-) |
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[22:22] <sebas> apachelogger: not with kwin though :) |
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[22:22] <sebas> apachelogger: we do, users don't. |
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[22:22] <sebas> As a matter of fact, I don't. |
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[22:22] <apachelogger> users don't use itnrepid :P |
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[22:23] <apachelogger> *intrepid |
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[22:23] <sebas> that leaves only me :'/ |
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[22:23] <apachelogger> :( |
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[22:23] * apachelogger hands sebas a beer |
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[22:23] <apachelogger> also provides fancy graphics ;-) |
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[22:23] <JontheEchidna> Actually KWin works great with my GeForce 4 MX 440 |
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[22:23] <JontheEchidna> ironic, isn't it? |
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[22:23] <ScottK-laptop> Arby: Did you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive?highlight=%28CategoryUbuntuDevelopment%29#head-6a4a4d2ad0cc004c6199f465539e3bbc2239291e |
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[22:24] <sebas> apachelogger: lsd works better with fancy graphics, or so I've heard. |
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[22:24] <apachelogger> I am quite sure beer tastes better though |
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[22:24] <sebas> JontheEchidna: no signs of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16538 ? |
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[22:24] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 16538 in Driver/nVidia (proprietary) "Slow resizing of windows in kwin from KDE4" [Normal,New] |
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[22:24] <Arby> ScottK-laptop: no I filed it because I was asked to, reading now. |
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[22:24] <sebas> Yeah, but you usually don't drink a pint of lsd |
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[22:25] <sebas> So that's moot. |
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[22:25] <sebas> And they're not mutually exclusive anyway |
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[22:25] <apachelogger> true |
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[22:25] <JontheEchidna> sebas: half a second max |
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[22:25] <sebas> what exactly, JontheEchidna? |
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[22:25] <sebas> Vdesktopswitching? |
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[22:25] <sebas> Or resizing konsole? |
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[22:26] <sebas> And is that the legacy driver or the 'real' one? |
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[22:26] <JontheEchidna> resizing konsole |
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[22:26] <sebas> That's faster than my 7600gs |
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[22:26] <JontheEchidna> nvidia-glx which is the 90.x |
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[22:26] <JontheEchidna> 96.43.05 |
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[22:27] <JontheEchidna> Bet you're envious of my smokin' card. :P |
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[22:30] * JontheEchidna never thought he'd see the day where his videocard actually was 5 times faster than anybody else's |
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[22:31] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yay, all files included now |
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[22:31] <JontheEchidna> ...and the bookmarks show up! |
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[22:32] <JontheEchidna> *extenstoins |
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[22:32] <Arby> ScottK-laptop: for this line, mention to remove both source and all binaries |
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[22:33] <Arby> if we remove the source do we also have to remove the binaries? |
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[22:33] <ScottK-laptop> Arby: If you want binary packages removed, you need to list them. |
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[22:33] <ScottK-laptop> Depends on if the same binary is being built from another source packages now. |
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[22:34] * JontheEchidna hugs google searchbar |
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[22:34] <Arby> the reason for the removal is that ktorrent-kde4 becomes ktorrent in intrepid |
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[22:34] <Arby> so I guess the answer is yes |
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[22:34] <Arby> both binary and source package names have changed |
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[22:39] <Arby> ScottK-laptop: does this look acceptable to you now? bug 250626 |
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[22:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 250626 in ktorrent-kde4 "Please remove ktorrent-kde4 from intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250626 |
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[22:40] * ScottK-laptop looks |
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[22:42] <ScottK-laptop> Arby: Look at it now. |
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[22:44] <Arby> ScottK-laptop: so the content was ok? I deliberately left subscribers, status etc until I had that sorted |
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[22:44] <Arby> minimise e-mail churn et |
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[22:44] <Arby> *etc |
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[22:45] <ScottK-laptop> Arby: Yes. That's why I confirmed it and subscribed the archive. |
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[22:45] <Arby> ok thanks |
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[22:45] * Arby has one more go at this backport before giving up for the night |
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[22:52] <Arby> what the... debuild is trying to apply a patch I just deleted |
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[22:52] <Arby> :( |
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[22:52] <Riddell> check debian/patches/series |
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[22:53] <Arby> Riddell: there isn't one, there is only one patch, which is no longer needed so I removed the whole of debian/patches. |
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[22:53] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: having a tad bit of trouble with kmail, konq-plugins coming soon |
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[22:55] <apachelogger> Arby: did you apply the patch? |
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[22:56] <apachelogger> oh |
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[22:56] <Arby> apachelogger: no, it's been incorporated into the source so is no longer needed. |
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[22:57] <apachelogger> Arby: are you sure it's applying and not unapplying? |
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[22:57] <Arby> no |
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[22:57] <apachelogger> so, how does quilt know about that patch if there is no patches directory Oo |
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[22:57] <Arby> I no longer have any idea what is happening |
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[22:57] <Arby> that's what I want to know |
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[22:57] <apachelogger> Arby: are you sure you deleted it in the right directory? |
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[22:58] * Arby triplecheck |
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[22:58] <Arby> s |
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[22:58] * apachelogger usually works in 3 branches at the same time leading to that kind of issue ;-) |
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[22:58] <JontheEchidna> bah, gmail is being retarded |
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[22:58] <Arby> yes definitely the right directory |
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[22:59] <apachelogger> Arby: tar up the directory and send it over |
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[22:59] * apachelogger can't think of any other cause realy |
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[22:59] <JontheEchidna> brb, restarting router |
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[22:59] <apachelogger> we should get a kolab setup for kubuntu.org |
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[22:59] <Arby> apachelogger: ok, I suspect it's a pebkac :) |
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[23:00] <Arby> apachelogger: the whole source tree, or just the debian directory |
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[23:00] <Arby> ? |
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[23:00] <apachelogger> Arby: former |
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[23:00] <Arby> k |
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[23:04] <Arby> apachelogger: incoming |
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[23:05] <Arby> maybe, eventually |
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[23:05] * apachelogger is afraid of the impact |
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[23:06] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent konq-plugins ppa3 |
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[23:08] <Arby> sent at last |
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[23:13] <vorian> yee haa |
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[23:14] <vorian> how goes |
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[23:14] <JontheEchidna> good |
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[23:14] <JontheEchidna> vorian: any progress on koffice2? :P |
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[23:14] <vorian> nope |
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[23:14] <JontheEchidna> where do we stand right now? |
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[23:15] <vorian> there is some problem with the icons in koffice-data icons |
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[23:16] <JontheEchidna> the insert table one? |
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[23:16] <JontheEchidna> or a different one? |
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[23:46] * JontheEchidna is improving at backporting |
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[23:46] * apachelogger is enjoying is crappy connection today |
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[23:47] <apachelogger> omg Arby left |
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[23:47] <JontheEchidna> hmm, still no .zip support in ark even with libzyp-dev :/ |
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[23:48] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: could you ark --version for me? |
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[23:48] <apachelogger> me@apoc:~/tmp/ktorrent-3.1.1$ ark --version |
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[23:48] <apachelogger> Qt: 4.4.0 |
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[23:48] <apachelogger> KDE: 4.00.98 (KDE 4.0.98 (4.1 RC1)) |
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[23:48] <apachelogger> Ark: 2.9.999 |
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[23:48] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: maybe libarchive |
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[23:48] * apachelogger isn't sure about that anymore |
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[23:49] <JontheEchidna> heh |
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[23:49] <JontheEchidna> so 2.9.999 is RC1? |
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[23:49] <apachelogger> aye |
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[23:50] <JontheEchidna> good |
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[23:53] <JontheEchidna> libZzip is what cmake wants |
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[23:53] <JontheEchidna> libzzip-dev, then |
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[23:53] <apachelogger> ok |
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[23:53] <apachelogger> I think |
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[23:54] <apachelogger> it was like libarchive -> libzip -> libzzip |
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[23:54] <apachelogger> eventually ark could stick with some lib at some point ;-) |
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[23:54] <apachelogger> hm |
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[23:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: zzip only proivdes read access apparently |
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[23:55] <JontheEchidna> + LibZip: A library for reading, creating, and modifying ZIP archives <http://www.nih.at/libzip> <cmake sez |
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[23:55] <JontheEchidna> so sez upstream website too |
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[23:56] <JontheEchidna> So libzzip-dev as build-dep for the source package |
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[23:56] <JontheEchidna> libzzip-0-13 as a dep for ark-kde4 |
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[23:57] <JontheEchidna> sound good? |
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[23:57] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: libzip != libzzip |
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[23:57] <JontheEchidna> ? |
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[23:57] <JontheEchidna> I said libzzip both times |
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[23:57] <JontheEchidna> oh, nvm |
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[23:57] <apachelogger> upstream website doesn't :P |
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[23:57] <apachelogger> neither does the pasted output |
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[23:58] <JontheEchidna> libzip and libzip-dev |
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[23:58] <apachelogger> if (LIBZIP_FOUND) |
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[23:58] <apachelogger> add_subdirectory( libzipplugin ) |
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[23:58] <apachelogger> endif (LIBZIP_FOUND) |
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[23:59] <JontheEchidna> *libzip1 |
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[23:59] <apachelogger> hm |
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[23:59] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: where do you read libzzip? |
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[23:59] <Daskreech> 4 |
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[23:59] <JontheEchidna> JontheEchidna: I don't, I suck at reading tonight |
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[23:59] <apachelogger> cool :) |
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[23:59] <apachelogger> +1 |
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