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[06:06] <Belutz> @schedule Jakarta |
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[06:06] <ubottu> Belutz: Schedule for Asia/Jakarta: 08 Jul 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 22:00: Server Team | 10 Jul 00:00: QA Team | 10 Jul 05:00: Platform Team | 10 Jul 20:00: Desktop Team |
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[11:38] * persia does the dance of preparedness (which may take 20 minutes) |
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[11:56] <amachu> elky: TheMuso: persia: lifeless: Hi |
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[11:56] <TheMuso> amachu: Hi. There is nobody on the agenda. |
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[11:56] <amachu> Yes |
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[11:56] <TheMuso> amachu: And lifeless said he likely may not be around. |
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[11:56] <amachu> ok |
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[11:57] <TheMuso> I'm all for postponing the meeting, unless there is something else we need to discuss. |
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[11:57] <elky> i second postponing |
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[12:00] <persia> Why postpone? Let's have the meeting now, and call it done, and have another next week. |
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[12:00] <elky> heh |
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[12:00] <TheMuso> haha |
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[12:00] * persia moves to adjourn the meeting |
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[12:00] <elky> whichever way works |
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[12:01] <TheMuso> Seconded. |
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[12:01] <elky> that's probably the word we were looking for |
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[12:01] <elky> my brain started switching off about half an hour ago |
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[12:01] <TheMuso> lol |
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[12:01] * persia waits for our fearless leader to take a decision based on the motion |
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[12:01] <persia> elky: slow switch, or just intermittent for a while? |
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[12:01] <elky> we have a leader? |
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[12:02] <elky> persia, like water cooling |
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[12:02] <elky> so the former ;) |
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[12:02] <persia> Didn't we declare amachu lord high leader, secretary for life, and continual chair so the rest of us could get out of writing anything up? |
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[12:02] <amachu_> persia? |
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[12:02] <elky> ah right, indeed! |
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[12:03] <elky> amachu, no agenda: luke, emmet and i all voted for postpone. aye or nay? |
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[12:03] <persia> s/postpone/adjourn |
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[12:03] <amachu_> elky: persia : TheMuso : so shall we have our next meeting on 22 Kuly |
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[12:03] <amachu_> July |
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[12:03] <amachu_> elky: I agree |
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[12:03] <elky> persia, stop making me look like a fool :Þ |
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[12:03] <persia> 22 works for me. |
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[12:03] <elky> yep |
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[12:04] <TheMuso> Yep that works for me also. |
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[12:04] <persia> elky: Sorry. It's a bit earlier here, so I have an advantage :) |
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[12:04] <elky> persia, cheat! |
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[12:04] <elky> g'nite guys |
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[12:04] <TheMuso> Night. |
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[12:05] <amachu_> so we decide to have our next meeting on 22 July 08, 11.00 AM UTC |
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[12:05] <elky> amachu, i believe so |
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[12:05] <amachu_> elky: g'nite |
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[12:05] * elky wanders off to tv land for a few hours |
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[12:05] <amachu_> fine then |
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[12:05] <amachu_> anything else to shared, discussed? |
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[12:07] <persia> amachu: Nope. |
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[12:08] <amachu_> persia: ok. I will update the wiki accordingly. Thank you everyone for participating |
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[12:08] <amachu_> have good day/ evening/ night ;-) |
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[12:09] <amachu_> bye! |
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[12:39] <Belutz> hi all, sorry I just finished a meeting |
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[12:40] <persia> Belutz: No problem. We had a quick meeting. The only agenda items were 1) to schedule the next meeting for the 22nd, and 2) to adjourn. |
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[12:40] <Belutz> persia, ah ok |
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[12:40] <Belutz> persia, 22nd with the same time? |
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[12:41] <persia> Yep. |
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[12:41] <Belutz> ok, thanks persia :) |
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[12:41] <persia> My understanding is that we're skipping the 15th as the third Tuesday, which would be conflicting with the CC meeting. |
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[12:49] <Belutz> persia, ok :) |
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[15:59] <kirkland> howdy all |
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[15:59] * mathiaz waves |
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[15:59] <sommer> yo |
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[15:59] <nxvl> \o\ |o| /o/ |o| \o\ |
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[16:00] <lukehasnoname> Kernkraft - Zombie Nation |
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[16:00] <zul> hello |
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[16:00] <nijaba> o/ |
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[16:00] <mathiaz> allright - let's get started |
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[16:00] <Koon> \o |
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[16:01] <mathiaz> for today's server team meeting ! |
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[16:01] <mathiaz> #startmeeting |
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[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is mathiaz. |
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[16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] |
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[16:01] <mathiaz> Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting |
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[16:02] <mathiaz> last meeting logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20080701 |
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[16:02] <mathiaz> I've updated the Roadmap |
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[16:03] <mathiaz> so that we knwo what's we're working on during this release cycle |
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[16:03] <mathiaz> if things are missing there, add them to the wiki page |
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[16:03] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap |
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[16:03] <kirkland> mathiaz: i still owe you an update to the Roadmap on the LSB init script stuff |
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[16:03] <kirkland> mathiaz: I'll do that today |
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[16:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: great - thanks |
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[16:04] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to update the lsb section on the roadmap |
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[16:04] <MootBot> ACTION received: kirkland to update the lsb section on the roadmap |
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[16:04] <nxvl> need to add the augeas thing also |
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[16:04] <mathiaz> kirkland: do you know what you wanna add there ? |
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[16:04] <nxvl> i will try to do it tonight |
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[16:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: yeah, so the status_of_proc() function is in Ubuntu's lsb, and has been pushed to Debian, where the maintainer says he likes it, and will integrate after the Debian freeze is over |
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[16:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: there's a list of package in this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/lsb/+bug/203169 |
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[16:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 203169 in samba ""status" function for init scripts" [Wishlist,Confirmed] |
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[16:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - so now we need to update the package to use this lsb function |
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[16:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: those are the key server packages where I'd like to submit a stack of very small patches to use this function |
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[16:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: I'm going to try and knock all of those out today |
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[16:06] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - great ! |
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[16:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: should only take a few hours |
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[16:06] <nxvl> kirkland: so finally the DM accepted the patch? Awesome! |
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[16:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: I will need sponsorship, of course |
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[16:06] <zul> kirkland: feel free to bug me |
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[16:06] <nxvl> kirkland: and me |
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[16:06] <kirkland> zul: awesome! |
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[16:07] <kirkland> nxvl: cool! |
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[16:07] <nxvl> i have some time this weekend |
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[16:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'd advise you to go through the sponsorship queue |
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[16:07] <kirkland> mathiaz: right, i will certainly do that |
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[16:07] <mathiaz> great - let's move on |
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[16:08] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] # |
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[16:08] <mathiaz> Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. |
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[16:08] <MootBot> New Topic: # |
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[16:08] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. |
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[16:08] <MootBot> New Topic: Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. |
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[16:08] <mathiaz> nealmcb: any new factoids ? |
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[16:09] <mathiaz> sommer: I've looked into the splitting the server guide from the big ubuntu-doc branch |
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[16:10] <mathiaz> sommer: It seems really easy to achieve |
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[16:10] <mathiaz> sommer: so one option we could do is to push our own branch - and then you could merge it the ubuntu-doc branch |
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[16:10] <mathiaz> sommer: I'm not sure if that would work well, but we could give it a try |
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[16:11] <sommer> mathiaz: yep, and the more I think about it the more I'm all for it :) |
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[16:12] <mathiaz> sommer: the ubuntu-doc bzr branch uses a format that support sub-tree, so it's really easy to split a sub-directory in its own branch |
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[16:12] <sommer> mathiaz: do you know what needs to happen as far as the current LP branch? I guess I'm not too familiar with the branching process |
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[16:12] <mathiaz> sommer: however I haven't figured out how to deal with translations |
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[16:12] <mathiaz> sommer: no yet - I'm still experimenting with it |
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[16:13] <sommer> mathiaz: translations, are really one of the biggest issues when dealing with the docs... for me it's easy to forget about them |
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[16:13] <nxvl> i have some workaround on a bzr branch on how to do translations |
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[16:13] <sommer> mathiaz: great, just let me know how I can help :) |
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[16:13] <nxvl> the script is ubuntu-course specific, but it won't be hard to change it |
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[16:13] <mathiaz> sommer: well - what I don't understand is where/when the translations are included |
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[16:14] <mathiaz> sommer: IIUC they're done in rosetta - but how do they end up in the bzr tree ? |
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[16:14] <sommer> mathiaz: the when is after string freeze, the new strings are translated and the packages are created |
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[16:14] <nxvl> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel/ubuntu-desktop-course/ubuntu-desktop-course-translation |
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[16:14] <nxvl> this a po maker script |
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[16:14] <mathiaz> sommer: right - so there is not point in having the .po files in the bzr branch ? |
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[16:15] <sommer> mathiaz: I think they're synced sometime after SF |
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[16:15] <nxvl> this is* |
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[16:15] <sommer> mathiaz: I don't think so, at least not right away |
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[16:15] <LaserJock> .pot files are created from the docbook, put in the source package, and they get extracted to Rosetta, then the .po files are downloaded, converted back into docbook |
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[16:15] <mathiaz> sommer: hm - ok - I think I'll ask about that on the ubuntu-doc ml or IRC channel |
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[16:15] <nxvl> mathiaz: rosette generates .pot files |
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[16:16] <nxvl> mathiaz: so at some point you only need to download them and include in your release |
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[16:16] <nxvl> rosetta* |
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[16:16] <sommer> LaserJock: ah, thanks that makes more sense :) |
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[16:16] <LaserJock> nxvl: rosetta generates .po files, you send it .pot files |
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[16:17] <mathiaz> LaserJock: well - can I ask more detailed questions about the process after the meeting ? |
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[16:17] <nxvl> LaserJock: :D I'm not a translation expert, thanks for clearing it |
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[16:17] <LaserJock> mathiaz: sure |
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[16:17] <mathiaz> LaserJock: thanks - let's move on |
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[16:17] <LaserJock> mathiaz: I'm not a translation expert but I do it for edubuntu-docs |
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[16:17] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Migrate openldap configuration to cn=config |
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[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic: Migrate openldap configuration to cn=config |
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[16:17] <mathiaz> so I've started to work on that spec - and got some preliminary code |
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[16:18] <mathiaz> I've finally understood the packaging bits and have a plan now |
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[16:19] <mathiaz> I'd like to talk with slangasek about it and get some if his input on this |
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[16:19] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Boot Support for Degraded RAID |
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[16:19] <MootBot> New Topic: Boot Support for Degraded RAID |
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[16:19] <mathiaz> kirkland: anything new ? |
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[16:19] <kirkland> mathiaz: nope, not yet |
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[16:19] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok |
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[16:20] <mathiaz> kirkland: are you blocked on something ? |
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[16:20] <kirkland> mathiaz: the Ecryptfs work is pretty much done, i'm turning my focus now to Degraded RAID and ISCSI |
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[16:20] <mathiaz> kirkland: or just not enough time ? |
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[16:20] <kirkland> mathiaz: time ;-) |
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[16:20] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Encrypted ~/Private Directory in Each User's Home |
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[16:20] <MootBot> New Topic: Encrypted ~/Private Directory in Each User's Home |
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[16:20] <mathiaz> kirkland: anything to test ? |
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[16:20] <kirkland> mathiaz: I think I'm going to tackle Degraded RAID first |
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[16:20] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes, this stuff is in pretty good shape in Intrepid now |
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[16:21] <nealmcb> mathiaz: sorry - was distracted - we have a new kvm factoid and an updated virtualization factoid |
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[16:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: so it's uploaded - can we ask for more widespread testing ? |
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[16:21] <nealmcb> !kvm |
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[16:21] <ubottu> kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM |
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[16:21] <nealmcb> !virtualization |
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[16:21] <ubottu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu. See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications |
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[16:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: I'll update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list |
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[16:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: great - could you also add an item to the Testing section on the Roadmap ? |
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[16:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: there's one thing that has to be done manually still.... |
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[16:22] <mathiaz> nealmcb: great - thanks |
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[16:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: one line has to be added to /etc/pam.d/common-auth, and one line to /etc/pam.d/common-session |
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[16:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: does this need to be documented somewhere ? |
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[16:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: i need some advice from slangasek on how to do this automatically or on install |
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[16:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's documented in the Spec |
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[16:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: basically, the pam_ecryptfs.so module needs to be added to the stack |
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[16:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: I don't understand how we can do this automatically and within Debian policy |
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[16:23] <kirkland> mathiaz: any help here would be much appreciated |
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[16:23] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list about ecrypts fs |
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[16:23] <MootBot> ACTION received: kirkland to update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list about ecrypts fs |
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[16:23] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'd suggest to send an email to ubuntu-devel@ |
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[16:23] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay, will do |
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[16:23] <dendrobates> kirkland: I have some ideas as well. |
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[16:23] <kirkland> dendrobates: yeah? |
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[16:24] <kirkland> dendrobates: let's talk offline, then |
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[16:24] <dendrobates> kirkland: ok |
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[16:24] <mathiaz> [ACTION]: kirkland to ask for feedback on how to add the pam_ecryptfs module to the pam stack |
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[16:24] <MootBot> ACTION received: : kirkland to ask for feedback on how to add the pam_ecryptfs module to the pam stack |
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[16:25] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Migrate new installs and upgrades of client and server packages to use SSL v3 or TLS |
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[16:25] <MootBot> New Topic: Migrate new installs and upgrades of client and server packages to use SSL v3 or TLS |
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[16:25] <mathiaz> ivoks: ? |
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[16:25] <ivoks> hi |
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[16:25] <ivoks> sorry for being late |
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[16:25] <ivoks> this is just configuration change |
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[16:25] <mathiaz> ivoks: np - just in time for your spec :) |
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[16:25] <ivoks> for all services, so only patches needed are for config files |
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[16:26] <ivoks> this is a no brainer, and will be done at the end of this week |
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[16:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: do you have a list of services that needs to be updated ? |
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[16:26] <ivoks> (i'm just busy these days with exams on faculty; tomorrow is the last one) |
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[16:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: I don't see it on the wiki page |
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[16:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrateOffSSL2 |
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[16:26] <ivoks> apache2, dovecot, postfix |
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[16:27] <ivoks> i'll finish wiki after tomorrow |
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[16:27] <mathiaz> ivoks: these are the only services ? |
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[16:27] <ivoks> only that come to my mind atm |
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[16:27] <mathiaz> [ACTION]: ivoks to update the MigrateOffSSL2 wiki page with a list of services that needs to be checked and fixed |
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[16:27] <MootBot> ACTION received: : ivoks to update the MigrateOffSSL2 wiki page with a list of services that needs to be checked and fixed |
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[16:28] <ivoks> i'll take a look at openldap also |
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[16:28] <mathiaz> ivoks: great - thanks. |
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[16:28] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Integration of Dovecot SASL and Postfix |
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[16:28] <MootBot> New Topic: Integration of Dovecot SASL and Postfix |
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[16:28] <mathiaz> ivoks: while you're around - ^^ |
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[16:28] <ivoks> shoot :) |
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[16:28] <mathiaz> ivoks: one question I have is why use dovecot sasl ? |
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[16:29] <ivoks> yes, openldap is a config change too |
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[16:29] <ivoks> TLSCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM:-SSLv2 |
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[16:29] <mathiaz> ivoks: while doing some prep work for the kerberos spec, I quickly looked at sasl |
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[16:29] <ivoks> mathiaz: saslauthd? |
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[16:29] <mathiaz> ivoks: there are indeed two implementations of sasl in main, cyrus an dovecot |
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[16:30] <ivoks> right |
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[16:30] <mathiaz> ivoks: unfortunately support for dovecot sasl is almost inexistent (only exim and postfix) |
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[16:30] <mathiaz> ivoks: so we need to keep cyrus-sasl in main for the other services |
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[16:30] <nxvl> mathiaz: i have deploy dovecot with sasl before, is painful but it can be done |
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[16:31] <ivoks> so... basicaly, why not do postfix and cyrus too? |
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[16:31] <ivoks> s/cyrus/dovecot |
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[16:31] <mathiaz> ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkAuthentication/KerberizeServices |
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[16:31] <mathiaz> ivoks: ^^ there is a list of services in main that support sasl |
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[16:32] <ivoks> ok |
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[16:32] <mathiaz> ivoks: so the aim is to provide an easy way to enable sasl auth in postfix - why not choose cyrus ? |
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[16:33] <sommer> mathiaz: don't you have to change the cyrus socket location if using postfix in chroot? which could cause an issue if running those other services on the same box? |
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[16:33] <mathiaz> sommer: well - you'd have the same problem with dovecot |
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[16:33] <sommer> with dovecot you have to change the location as well, but since less services can use it less are affected |
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[16:33] <ivoks> well... there is no special reason, except the chrooted postfix, but that's the same problem with dovecot |
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[16:33] <ivoks> doh.. :) |
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[16:34] <sommer> heh |
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[16:34] <sommer> it just feels to me that dovecot and postfix make a good match... plus they're both mail related so they might be more likely to be installed on the same box |
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[16:34] <ivoks> i don't recall what were the reasons to move to dovecot |
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[16:34] <mathiaz> well - my main argument is that most of services in main use cyrus sasl |
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[16:34] <ivoks> except that setting dovecot's sasl is easy and all packages are already there |
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[16:35] <mathiaz> and it seems that it will be the case for quite some time as supporting dovecot sasl require hacking the src code IIUC |
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[16:35] <sommer> and postfix is by default in chroot |
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[16:35] <ivoks> fwiw, we will have the same packaging problems with both variants |
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[16:35] <mathiaz> ivoks: aggreed |
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[16:36] <sommer> would un-chrooting postfix alleviate some of the pain? |
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[16:36] <mathiaz> ivoks: so it may worth looking into improving cyrus sasl experience |
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[16:36] <ivoks> sure |
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[16:37] <ivoks> if cyrus is way to go for everything else... well, it would be silly not to go there with postfix and dovecot, too |
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[16:37] <mathiaz> ivoks: so - should we retarget to integrate cyrus sasl instead of dovecot sasl for postfix ? |
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[16:38] * ivoks cries... |
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[16:38] <ivoks> ah well, ok :D |
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[16:38] <mathiaz> ivoks: could you look into that and report back what needs to be done to integrate postfix and cyrus sasl ? |
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[16:38] <ivoks> life would be much easier if postfix wouldn't be chrooted :/ |
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[16:39] <ivoks> mathiaz: simple: get postfix out of jail or add another 'meta' package that would delete cyrus socket, create it in postfix chroot, and then link old location |
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[16:40] <mathiaz> [ACTION] ivoks to look into cyrus sasl/postfix integration |
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[16:40] <MootBot> ACTION received: ivoks to look into cyrus sasl/postfix integration |
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[16:40] <mathiaz> ivoks: I'll update the roadmap then. |
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[16:40] <ivoks> ok |
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[16:40] <mathiaz> [ACTION]: mathiaz to update the Roadmap wrt postfix sasl integration |
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[16:40] <MootBot> ACTION received: : mathiaz to update the Roadmap wrt postfix sasl integration |
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[16:40] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Manpage Repository |
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[16:40] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu Manpage Repository |
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[16:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: ? |
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[16:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: awaiting Kees' security audit |
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[16:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: elmo has agreed to provide hosting for it |
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[16:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: elmo just asked kees to sign off on the code |
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[16:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - great |
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[16:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: there's a Launchpad project if anyone else wants to review |
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[16:41] * nealmcb cheers |
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[16:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: where ? |
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[16:42] <nxvl> kirkland: i can make a security audit on it, did you have some branch or link i can break? |
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[16:42] <nxvl> :D |
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[16:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: nxvl: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository |
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[16:42] <nxvl> (just to make things faster on kees revition) |
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[16:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: i might add that the command line interface, "dman" absolutely kicks arse! |
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[16:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: could add a reference to dman to the spec somewhere ? |
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[16:43] <kirkland> mathiaz: instant access from a command line to any man page in any ubuntu release dapper - intrepid, main/universe/multiverse/restricted |
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[16:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: so that we can keep track of it ? |
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[16:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: well, i'd like to actually submit that to the "man" package once the backend repo is up on it's permanent ubuntu.com home |
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[16:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's only about 20 lines that does a wget and pipes to man |
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[16:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: just a shell wrapper |
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[16:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: sure |
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[16:44] <kirkland> http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/dman |
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[16:44] <MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/dman |
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[16:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's temporarily housed in the same LP project as the repository code |
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[16:45] <mathiaz> kirkland: seems great to me |
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[16:45] <mathiaz> let's move on |
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[16:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: I'm going to send it to cjwatson eventually |
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[16:45] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Call for user experiences on WBEM/CIM Servers |
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[16:45] <MootBot> New Topic: Call for user experiences on WBEM/CIM Servers |
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[16:45] <mathiaz> Koon: ^ ? |
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[16:45] <Koon> I've been investigating possibilities we have for integrating a WBEM/CIM server in Ubuntu server |
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[16:46] <Koon> I was wondering if anyone in the team had any experience with that he would like to share |
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[16:46] <Koon> the possibilities are : OpenWBEM, SBLIM, OpenPegasus (others ?) |
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[16:46] <Koon> anyone uses them, or has an opinion on them ? |
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[16:47] <ivoks> guess not :) |
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[16:47] * sommer hasn't used any |
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[16:48] <Koon> ivoks: heh ;) |
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[16:48] <Koon> ok, let's move on then :) |
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[16:48] * nxvl doesn't even know what they are or do |
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[16:48] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Intrepid alpha 2 |
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[16:48] <MootBot> New Topic: Intrepid alpha 2 |
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[16:48] <mathiaz> A reminder that we're gearing up for Alpha2 to be released this thursday |
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[16:48] <ivoks> nxvl: something blabla enterprise blabla :D |
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[16:49] <ivoks> already?! |
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[16:49] <mathiaz> there is a soft freezr in effect as announced by pitti: |
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[16:49] <ivoks> doh... |
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[16:49] <mathiaz> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000445.html |
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[16:49] <nxvl> ivoks: that's what i thought |
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[16:49] <mathiaz> that means we'll some -server isos to be tested in the next few days |
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[16:49] <mathiaz> we'll *have* |
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[16:50] <mathiaz> #ubuntu-testing and the iso qa tracker are the place to keep track of that |
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[16:50] <sommer> do the isos work with kvm? |
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[16:50] <kirkland> yeah, the kvm business is really hurting my testing |
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[16:50] <nxvl> i always download them on my class of thursday and start testing them |
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[16:50] <nijaba> soren said he would upload a patch to fix that shortly |
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[16:51] <mathiaz> sommer: I don't know - I'm not sure :/ |
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[16:51] <sommer> Yay! |
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[16:51] <nxvl> sommer: i always test them using KVM |
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[16:51] <nxvl> sommer: with virt-manaer |
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[16:51] <nxvl> manager* |
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[16:51] <mathiaz> sommer: a new kernel has been uploaded - I was able to boot an intrepid guest |
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[16:51] <mathiaz> sommer: but there were tons of oopses |
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[16:52] <sommer> mathiaz: oh cool, I checked a while back and wasn't able to boot... will try again :) |
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[16:52] <mathiaz> sommer: yes - 2.4.26-2 wasn't working at all |
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[16:52] <mathiaz> sommer: 2.6.26-3 should work |
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[16:52] <nxvl> i have some intrepid guest generated by u-vm-builder without problems |
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[16:53] <nxvl> u just needed to create them as a hardy and then upgrade |
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[16:53] <nealmcb> Koon: if you have a version of your request for wbem/cim info that is a bit more expanded and in context I'd be happy to forward it to folks that should know.... |
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[16:53] <Koon> nealmcb: great, will send that to you |
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[16:53] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open Discussion |
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[16:53] <MootBot> New Topic: Open Discussion |
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[16:53] <mathiaz> anything else to add ? |
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[16:54] <nxvl> o/ |
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[16:54] <sommer> I was wondering if we could get a serverguide factiod? |
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[16:54] <sommer> at least that's a url I copy and paste a lot :) |
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[16:54] <mathiaz> nealmcb: ^^ could you take care of that ? |
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[16:54] <nxvl> yes please! |
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[16:55] <mathiaz> nxvl: you wanted to add something ? |
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[16:55] <nxvl> yep |
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[16:56] <nxvl> Augeas is about to reach the archive |
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[16:56] <nxvl> i have already worked on a list of suggested/needed services |
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[16:56] <nxvl> and i have already get some lenses |
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[16:56] <nxvl> i talked to raphink earlier today and he said he has some and he will mail them to me |
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[16:56] <nxvl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCentralizedServiceAdministrator/Augeas |
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[16:57] <nxvl> this is the list |
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[16:57] <nxvl> if you have some suggestions on it, or want to add/remove something |
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[16:57] <nxvl> i will be really grateful |
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[16:57] <nxvl> (if you want to write some lenses better) |
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[16:57] <nxvl> i also wrote a call for lensers |
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[16:58] <nxvl> but i thing i do it on a bad time (sunday) |
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[16:58] <mathiaz> @schedule |
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[16:58] <ubottu> mathiaz: Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00: MOTU |
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[16:58] <nxvl> mathiaz: so if you make echo on the ubuntu server blog it would be really cool |
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[16:59] <nxvl> original post can be found here: http://nvalcarcel.aureal.com.pe/?p=199 |
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[16:59] <mathiaz> nxvl: I'll write something up - it will be in the minutes anyway :) |
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[16:59] <mathiaz> anything else to add ? |
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[16:59] <nxvl> not from me |
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[16:59] <nxvl> that's all i wanted to add |
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[17:00] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time |
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[17:00] <MootBot> New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time |
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[17:00] <mathiaz> same place, same time, next week ? |
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[17:00] <sommer> works for me |
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[17:01] <ivoks> yes, sound good... |
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[17:01] <mathiaz> excellent than - see you all next week here at the same time |
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[17:02] <mathiaz> thanks for coming and happy iso testing ! |
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[17:02] <mathiaz> #endmeeting |
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[17:02] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:03. |
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[17:02] <sommer> thanks mathiaz, later on all |
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[17:02] * nealmcb will talk to sommer about serverguide factoids |
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[17:03] <nijaba> Thanks mathiaz |
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[17:03] * nealmcb was distracted by a house guest... |
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[17:05] <nealmcb> !documentation |
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[17:05] <ubottu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com |
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[17:06] <sommer> nealmcb: could we get a !serverguide, with a specific link... and maybe linking the development docs? |
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[17:10] <nealmcb> sommer: I would think so - but it seems like the existing documentation factoid could be enhanced also |
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[17:10] <nealmcb> wiki.ubuntu.com isn't really documentation - and there is much confusion as a result |
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[17:11] <sommer> nealmcb: sounds good to me :) |
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[17:11] <nealmcb> we can continue the chat in u-s in a bit after I finish something else |
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[17:12] <sommer> nealmcb: cool, I'm at lunch as well |
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=== ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Jul 13:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community |
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[18:05] <slangasek> kirkland: munging pam configs - can we fix that once for all this cycle? |
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[18:07] <kirkland> slangasek: dendrobates has pointed me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AuthClientConfig for that |
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[18:07] <slangasek> kirkland: which is not what I'm talking about at al |
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[18:07] <slangasek> all |
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[18:07] <slangasek> AuthClientConfig is just not scalable, it only lets you switch between profiles |
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[18:08] <slangasek> we should probably take this to #-devel, though |
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[18:08] <kirkland> slangasek: agreed, i'm on a call at the moment |
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