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[00:01] <mitsarionas> hi... i'd like to help with kubuntu... any easy piece of work for an newbie? :)
[00:03] <Xand3r> i go to bed, c ya have fun
[00:22] <neversfelde> mitsarionas: sure, a little bit late in europe. Probably yous hould ask another time, tomorrow
[00:23] <mitsarionas> :(
[00:24] <mitsarionas> (I should actually go to sleep too)
[00:24] <neversfelde> mitsarionas: me too
[00:25] <mitsarionas> so it's mostly european people here?
[00:25] <neversfelde> mitsarionas: gn8
[00:25] <mitsarionas> 'night :)
[00:30] <vorian> mitsarionas: triaging bugs is a good place to help out
[00:31] * JontheEchidna is american
[00:31] <JontheEchidna> But I have noticed that there are a ton of people from europe here
[00:31] * vorian is american too
[00:31] <JontheEchidna> I think yuiry and nixternal are too
[00:31] <mitsarionas> vorian: i'm more like in a packaging/coding mood... but if there's not any suitable work there, that could do
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> We always have work there
[00:32] <Nightrose> mitsarionas: have a look at the todo linked in the topic - maybe there is something for you
[00:34] <mitsarionas> thanx, i'lll check them out
[00:35] <mitsarionas> though i'm green on qt :S ...are these stuff sort of high -priority ones?
[00:36] <Nightrose> mitsarionas: yes
[00:37] <Nightrose> they all should get done for intrepid the next Kubuntu release
[00:37] <Nightrose> if somehow possible
[00:38] <mitsarionas> so probably someone will get working with them before i'm up to speed :(
[00:40] <mitsarionas> worth a try though... but if you think of something low priority that's possibly not going to be worked on please let me know
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> ubiquity pyqt4 -> pykde4 port was low-priority
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidKDE4Porting
[00:41] <mitsarionas> thanx
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> I believe that at this point in time we need all the coding help we can get. :x
[00:45] <mitsarionas> i hope i'll be able to...though it might take me a while...(got exams these days too :(( )
[00:45] <JontheEchidna> yeah, school bites
[00:46] <mitsarionas> btw, what's the software of choice for kde development?
[00:47] <mitsarionas> i'm doing my master actually...but it still bites :D
[00:47] <JontheEchidna> Junior year of high school
[00:48] <JontheEchidna> Finishing it up... then comes summer break
[00:48] <mitsarionas> ! i feel old
[00:48] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i feel old
[00:49] <mitsarionas> lol forgot about the bot
[00:53] <vorian> mitsarionas: don't feel too bad, I finished college over just 10 years ago
[00:53] <vorian> :P
[00:54] <JontheEchidna> Now you got all these youngins messing around in your ircs!
[00:54] <mitsarionas> lol :D
[00:54] * claydoh joins the old-farts brigade, keeping the young whipper-snappers in line
[00:55] <neversfelde> <= one year left till 30
[00:56] <claydoh> still young :)
[00:56] <neversfelde> more or less
[00:56] <claydoh> its all relative
[00:56] <neversfelde> hehe
[00:57] <claydoh> I work with kids, im old enough to be a parent to most
[00:57] <claydoh> even to some of the adults
[00:58] <mitsarionas> they say that makes you feel young again...
[00:58] <mitsarionas> or maybe feel like shooting them :)
[01:07] <claydoh> nope, I feel old *and* I want to shoot them :)
[01:08] <claydoh> but thats not because of age
[01:09] <mitsarionas> :D
[01:10] <mitsarionas> so what software are you using for development?
[01:26] <mitsarionas> is katapult for kde4 being worked on?
[01:52] * JontheEchidna just uses Kate for the little thing he does
[01:53] * JontheEchidna hasn't heard anything about a katapult for kde4
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> Though it looks like KRunner might be headed in that general direction
[01:55] <mitsarionas> yeah, actually krunner does pretty much what katapult did in kde3... just saw somewhere that katapult needed to be ported to kde4
[02:12] <mitsarionas> off to sleep... g'night channel...i'll bug you with more questions tomorrow :)
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[09:28] <apachelogger> someone with hardy and kde4 please rune apt-cache rdepends libkonq5-templates
[09:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ping
[09:34] <gnomefreak> apachelogger: are you on intrepid?
[09:34] <apachelogger> yes
[09:35] <gnomefreak> can you please tell me the version of nvidia-glx-new is in it?
[09:35] <apachelogger> Version: 169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34
[09:35] <apachelogger> gnomefreak: ^
[09:36] <gnomefreak> apachelogger: thanks that is what i was afraid you would say
[09:36] <apachelogger> cool :D
[09:36] <gnomefreak> yeah cool i dont have gui the day i need it
[09:37] <gnomefreak> than since it looks like kernel resricted mods are not up to date
[09:37] <apachelogger> well
[09:37] <apachelogger> IIRC there was some problem with our current generic kernel and the nvidia driver
[09:38] <gnomefreak> im seeing this
[09:38] <gnomefreak> the versions are not running the same but were before i reinstalled
[09:39] <gnomefreak> reinstalled because all apps were crashing and i finally gave up looking for the source of issue
[09:39] <apachelogger> we should all get intel chips and support their monopoly of neverending hardware power!
[09:39] <apachelogger> they at least got open drivers
[09:40] <gnomefreak> lol true
[09:40] <gnomefreak> i hate intel cards but its better than nothing on a day like today
[09:42] <apachelogger> oh wells, one day intel will try to beat amd/ati and nvidia out of the graphics card market and then we also get high-end solutions from intel ;-)
[09:43] <gnomefreak> but being free its gonna be hard to do
[09:43] <gnomefreak> paid projects normally have more money to throw at the devs.
[09:44] <gnomefreak> not to say intel doesnt since they have been ripping people off for years with thier cpus
[09:44] <gnomefreak> cpu chips
[09:45] <Riddell> Nightrose, apachelogger: do you know a gsoc student called Casey Link?
[09:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: ramblurr in #amarok ... considering he is around
[09:56] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[09:56] <Nightrose> Riddell: jep
[09:56] <apachelogger> Nightrose: see the line above the ping
[09:57] <Nightrose> ok
[09:57] <Nightrose> libkonq5-templates
[09:57] <Nightrose> Reverse Depends:
[09:57] <Nightrose> |libkonq5
[09:57] <Nightrose> libkonq5
[09:57] <Nightrose> libkonq5
[10:38] <apachelogger> Nightrose: merci beaucoup
[10:38] <Nightrose> :)
[10:40] <apachelogger> hm
[10:40] <apachelogger> anyone with hardy and no kde4 ppa around?
[10:41] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ScottK maybe?
[10:44] <apachelogger> meh
[10:47] <apachelogger> Nightrose: apt-cache rdepends libkonq5
[10:48] <Nightrose> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/d47b2af0f
[10:48] <apachelogger> Oo
[10:49] <apachelogger> Nightrose: apt-cache show dolphin-kde4
[10:49] <Nightrose> http://pastebin.com/d79384d09
[10:50] <apachelogger> wtf
[10:50] <apachelogger> someone please explain bug 238337
[10:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 238337 in kdebase-kde4 "Dolphin crashes when clicking right mouse button in empty space" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238337
[10:51] <apachelogger> quote:
[10:51] <apachelogger> this command solve it for me:
[10:51] <apachelogger> apt-get install libkonq5-templates
[10:51] <apachelogger> libkonq5 depends -templates on hardy, hardy+kde41 and intrepid
[10:51] <apachelogger> and all versions of dolphin depend on libkonq5
[10:52] <Nightrose> apachelogger: can't reproduce here btw
[10:53] <apachelogger> hm
[10:53] <apachelogger> no
[10:53] <apachelogger> that doesn't make sense
[10:53] <apachelogger> _no_ sense
[10:54] <apachelogger> Nightrose: of course you can't ... the mentioned package is installed because of deps
[10:54] <Nightrose> k
[10:54] <apachelogger> meh
[10:55] * apachelogger dislikes the current situtation
[10:55] <apachelogger> we have 3 different packagings
[10:55] <apachelogger> awful
[11:18] <Riddell> hardy.1 CD testers needed!
[11:19] <Serega> Riddell: I'm testing it right now
[11:19] <Serega> where to file bugs?
[11:20] <Serega> opps, sorry
[11:20] <Serega> it is in letter
[11:26] <DistroJockey> Greetings Riddell , all
[11:28] <Riddell> hi DistroJockey, take a look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all and see what you can fill in
[11:29] <DistroJockey> Riddell, k, will do
[11:29] <Riddell> ISOs are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/hardy/
[11:56] <nixternal> mornin'
[11:58] <Nightrose> 'lo nixternal :)
[12:03] <nixternal> http://www.nbc5.com/money/16764057/detail.html?dl=mainclick
[12:03] <nixternal> ouch, thank god I 1) don't have citibank, and 2) don't use quick stop ATMs
[12:04] <nixternal> oh, and 3) don't use Microsoft Windows with the remote assistance stuff enabled either :P
[12:20] <nixternal> time to get ready for work :(
[12:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: OEM Setup is the installer without starting the live session?
[12:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: no
[12:53] <Riddell> "Install Kubuntu" second option at the gfxboot is the installer without starting the live session
[12:54] <ScottK> apachelogger: I have Hardy and not very much KDE4 (I will confess to the kde-games-kde4 package and it's dependencies).
[12:54] <apachelogger> ScottK: already got the information, thanks anyway :)
[12:56] <apachelogger> ah
[12:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: found the OEM stuff
[12:56] <Riddell> yay
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[13:20] <JontheEchidna> Nepomunk is in kdelibs, right?
[13:27] <Riddell> mostly soprano
[14:02] <Riddell> apachelogger, Nightrose: know a Peter ZHOU?
[14:02] <Nightrose> jep
[14:02] <Nightrose> Summer of code student
[14:03] <Nightrose> peterzl is his nick
[14:03] <Riddell> thanks
[14:03] <Nightrose> :)
[14:03] <Riddell> two planet requests in a day, someone must have leaked about my new powers
[14:03] * Nightrose hands Riddell a cookie for taking care of it
[14:04] <Nightrose> hehe yea seems like it
[14:04] * Jucato grins evily >:)
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[14:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: did the wubi installation for kde4 ever work?
[14:30] <apachelogger> complains about root filesystem not being set
[14:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes I think so
[14:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: have you tried kde 3?
[14:31] <apachelogger> no
[14:31] <Riddell> hrm
[14:31] <apachelogger> *downloading*
[14:38] <Riddell> apachelogger: you can also try asking xivulon
[15:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: I was just running low on diskspace
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[15:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: ok, phew
[15:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: able to free some up so you can test wubi?
[15:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: it's configuring hardware right now
[15:59] <nixternal> Riddell: we just did a wubi install yesterday with the .1 discs
[15:59] <Riddell> nixternal: "we"?
[15:59] <nixternal> I got a couple of people interested in Kubuntu here and nwo I am trying to form a gang to battle the Ubuntu people in here :)
[16:00] <nixternal> ya, here at work
[16:00] <Riddell> excellent
[16:00] <nixternal> we have a couple of devs who want to play around, and wubi was perfect for them
[16:00] <nixternal> right now the Ubuntu gang it about 20 deep, and the Kubuntu gang is, well just me right now :)
[16:01] <nixternal> need to get one of those USB rocket launchers and start attacking
[16:01] <apachelogger> hm
[16:01] <apachelogger> launchpad -> usb rocket launchers -> kubuntu word domination
[16:01] <apachelogger> we see, launchpad is the key
[16:01] <nixternal> hehe
[16:07] <Xand3r> hi
[16:07] <Xand3r> i got the email from the upstream
[16:08] <yuriy> is the KDE4 version of power manager already in intrepid?
[16:09] <Riddell> yuriy: should be, I let it through new yesterday
[16:09] <yuriy> Riddell: what's the package for it? still guidance-power-manager?
[16:09] <yuriy> err not still
[16:10] <yuriy> k got it figured out
[16:10] <Xand3r> Riddell: the upstream of rubberband mentioned that a debian dev is working also on rubberband, the upstream asked if it be better to make a package across debian and ubuntu
[16:11] <yuriy> does it already handle brightness keys?
[16:13] <Xand3r> apachelogger: alles wieder fit?
[16:55] <mhb> is it normal for intrepid KDE4 applications to have inaccessible menus?
[16:55] <mhb> you just can't access them, nothing happens when you click on them
[16:56] <Riddell> not something I've seen
[16:57] <mhb> it still happens here, hardy machine immediately upgraded to intrepid
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> That's been happening lately on a hardy machine for me
[17:14] <mhb> also, konqueror is one crashing browser
[17:14] <mhb> really
[17:14] <mhb> I just click around for a while, on a normal site, and it crashes
[17:14] <mhb> (the KDE4 version)
[17:18] <yuriy> mhb: no such troubles here on kde-nightly
[17:21] <mhb> now only make kde-nightly the main KDE repository... :P
[17:46] <piquadrat> Hi! Dolphin crashes every time it tries to display a preview for a AVI movie file. Is this a known problem for 4.1 Beta 2 or is something wrong with my configuration?
[17:48] <Riddell> piquadrat: not something I've come accross
[17:48] <Riddell> Serega: did you manage to test some hardy.1?
[17:48] <Nightrose> piquadrat: known bug
[17:48] <Nightrose> you can remove the info bar at the right side to stop it
[17:48] <Nightrose> not sure if it is fixed upstream already
[17:49] <piquadrat> Nightrose: OK, thanks.
[17:49] <Serega> Riddell: yes, but I haven't comleted an installation as I haven't free hdd to play with it.
[17:52] <Serega> Riddell: once I had an issue: "system menu" applet on kicker showed me "Empty" instead of folders.
[17:52] <Serega> and looks like update for kaffeine autoinstallation haven't reached hardy repositories yet :(
[17:53] <Serega> it still loops
[17:53] <piquadrat> BTW, should bugs in the packages from kubuntu-members-kde4 be reported in Launchpad? Or is there some other way to find out if a bug is already known?
[17:55] <Nightrose> piquadrat: launchpad or ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:55] <Riddell> Serega: I think slangsek kept back the kaffeine update, maybe the bug report says why
[17:57] <piquadrat> Nightrose: oh, I thought I read somewhere this was the channel to ask about KDE4, sorry
[17:58] <Nightrose> piquadrat: no prob :) here is fine as well if it is development related
[18:00] <piquadrat> Nightrose: ok, I'll ask over there. Thank you!
[18:15] <yuriy> aaargh!! somehow kde-nightly's environment breaks postgres!!
[18:18] <yuriy> apachelogger: is neon doing some changes to the environment that kde4 on hardy isn't?
[18:36] <apachelogger> yuriy: less /usr/bin/startneonkde
[18:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: no issues for the kde4 desktop cd
[18:37] <yuriy> looks quite harmless
[18:42] * JontheEchidna thinks that's all of the easily-resolved kde3 bug reports
[18:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: with wubi?
[18:43] <JontheEchidna> By my estimates the upgrade to KDE4 allowed us to close ~15% of the bugs filed against kdebase
[18:43] <Riddell> and who said KDE 4 was buggy? :)
[18:43] <JontheEchidna> exactly :)
[18:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: and all types of installation
[18:46] <yuriy> JontheEchidna: i've been getting a lot of emails from you :) how many have you gone through?
[18:47] <JontheEchidna> Enough to give me 2.5k more karma
[18:47] <yuriy> ..wow
[18:47] <yuriy> anyways, room for a hug day next tuesday for this?
[18:47] <JontheEchidna> For KDE3 bugs?
[18:47] <yuriy> mhmm
[18:48] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, there are probably a lot of bugs still out there that we should ask the users if it still is a problem in kde4
[18:48] <JontheEchidna> and set to inactive
[18:48] <JontheEchidna> *incomplete
[18:48] <JontheEchidna> Plus I didn't touch kdepim really
[18:50] <JontheEchidna> Dolphin for kde3 needs some hugging too
[18:51] <yuriy> unfortunately I doubt that's going to get anywhere in terms of fixing anything
[18:51] <apachelogger> kde3
[18:51] <apachelogger> hm
[18:51] <apachelogger> not worth fixing anything
[18:51] <yuriy> d3lphin
[18:51] <apachelogger> 3 is dead!
[18:52] <yuriy> but 4.1 is killing my django :(
[18:52] <apachelogger> well, literally it is dead, Riddell took it away from me
[18:52] * apachelogger only got the libs left
[18:52] * apachelogger hugs the libs
[18:53] * JontheEchidna dances around d3lphin's burning carcass
[18:54] * jussi01 shoots the carcas to make sure its dead
[18:55] <apachelogger> ewww
[18:55] <Xand3r> apachelogger: upstream will build a new releas with the fixes i mentioned
[18:55] <JontheEchidna> But fwiw, I liked d3lphin aside from its bugginess
[18:55] <apachelogger> Xand3r: which upstream?
[18:56] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: for some reason it felt more cluttered than the original
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, compared to dolphin it's a piece of dog doo
[18:57] <Xand3r> apachelogger: rubberband
[18:57] <apachelogger> Xand3r: cool
[18:58] <Xand3r> yea
[18:59] <Xand3r> emm, where i can get the intrepid iso? on kubuntuorg i found nothing
[18:59] <Xand3r> gnaan, found it sorry
[19:00] <coreymon77> theres something i gotta wonder about
[19:00] <coreymon77> intrepid ivex?
[19:00] <coreymon77> where did that come frlom
[19:01] <coreymon77> ?
[19:01] * JontheEchidna wanted Hungry Hungry Hippo for 8.04...
[19:01] <coreymon77> me too
[19:01] <coreymon77> they better do lolcat for when they get down to L
[19:01] <JontheEchidna> Lewd Lolcat
[19:01] <coreymon77> something like that
[19:02] <coreymon77> just have lolcat in it
[19:02] <coreymon77> i never understood what the problem with hungry hippo was
[19:02] <Nightrose> think of what those two animals represent...
[19:03] <Nightrose> and you will know why we don't have a hippo :P
[19:03] <coreymon77> but still
[19:03] <coreymon77> everyone wanted it
[19:03] <Xand3r> but it would look funny on a cover, a hungry hippo^^
[19:04] <coreymon77> and hardy heron doesnt
[19:04] <coreymon77> or intrepid ivex?
[19:06] <coreymon77> lol, i love it when people make a big deal about being experienced with linux and then make a noob comment
[19:06] <coreymon77> :P
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> trying pinging your internets to see if apt-get will work
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> I am so 1337
[19:07] <coreymon77> im talking about what just happened in the kubuntu channel
[19:07] * JontheEchidna doesn't really lurk there since he uses kde4 primarily
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> But I guess when Intrepid is released we'll have to kiss #kubuntu-kde4 goodbye :(
[19:12] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: oh no!
[19:12] <apachelogger> we will use it for tea parties and stuff
[19:12] <apachelogger> Nightrose: what do you think?
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> Btw, aseigo got a FFE on moving widgets in the panel.
[19:14] <apachelogger> well
[19:14] <apachelogger> in KDE 3
[19:14] <apachelogger> I always moved the applets unintentional
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> How it's going to work is that you have to have the panel config toolbox open to do it
[19:15] <apachelogger> oh
[19:15] <apachelogger> beautiful
[19:15] <apachelogger> I love aaron
[19:21] <Xand3r> hey folks what dou you think about my backport reqest? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24524/
[19:24] <Nightrose> apachelogger: tea parties rock ;-)
[19:28] <Xand3r> Nightrose: can you do me a favor, pleas read the txt i pastet above and tell me if i could publish it
[19:28] <Nightrose> Xand3r: sorry - dinner on the oven
[19:28] <vorian> Xand3r: look at some of the requests at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports
[19:28] <Nightrose> back in 15 mins
[19:29] <Riddell> Xand3r: what changes were needed to screenie for hardy?
[19:29] <Xand3r> vorian: why i dont get the easy ideas?
[19:30] <Xand3r> Riddell: not screenie, screenie-qt
[19:30] <Xand3r> two different apps
[19:30] <Riddell> Xand3r: what changes were needed to screenie-qt for hardy?
[19:30] <Xand3r> screenie-qt dont exist in hardy
[19:32] <Riddell> Xand3r: what do you mean by "dont waste time with changing the package, i have it already done it" ?
[19:34] <Xand3r> hmm, nothing i del it
[19:45] <sinanimam> hi.. does anyone know how to obtain SSL/TLS support in Kopete (for Google Talk servers)? i tried some qca-tls packages but they didn't work.
[19:50] <_gunni_> Try libqca2-plugin-ossl that worked for me
[19:51] <sinanimam> now i remember why i didn't install that one
[19:51] <sinanimam> it wants to install libqt4-core
[19:52] <sinanimam> but in intrepid alpha, i already have libqtcore4
[19:52] <sinanimam> so i thought there might be problem and it needs an update to the new package name
[19:52] <sinanimam> is that true?
[20:33] <apachelogger> !info libqt4-core
[20:33] <ubottu> libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.4-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1993 kB, installed size 5712 kB
[20:33] <apachelogger> !info libqt4-core interpid
[20:33] <ubottu> 'interpid' is not a valid distribution
[20:34] <apachelogger> !info libqt4-core intrepid
[20:34] <ubottu> libqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0-3ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 7 kB, installed size 108 kB
[21:29] <apachelogger> vorian: around?
[21:29] <apachelogger> prolly not
[21:29] <ryanakca> Riddell: should I be the asignee for the kubuntu-intrepid-website spec? *points to Scott's comment on it*
[21:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24548/ is that a valid licensing?
[21:37] <vorian> apachelogger: yo
[21:37] <vorian> been in and out all day
[21:37] <apachelogger> vorian: 1) debian/control: line 14 exceeds 80 characters
[21:37] <apachelogger> 2) debian/copyright: line 32 + 113 exceed 80 characters
[21:37] <apachelogger> 3) 2 man pages missing
[21:38] <vorian> i'll hammer out the man pages later tonight
[21:38] <apachelogger> k
[21:39] <apachelogger> I am a bit worrid about the licensing headers
[21:39] <vorian> ta :)
[21:39] <apachelogger> will have to wait for Riddell's opinion on that
[21:39] <vorian> there are a couple i was worried about
[21:39] <vorian> the one you pasted
[21:39] <ryanakca> Riddell: also, any last things before Ng redirects the DNS?
[21:39] <vorian> then there was another GPL w/o the full licence in the tarball
[21:39] <apachelogger> vorian: another GPL?
[21:40] <vorian> strictly GPL
[21:40] * vorian finds
[21:40] <apachelogger> vamps
[21:40] <apachelogger> hm
[21:40] <apachelogger> vorian: upstream defenitely needs to add a copy of the GPL 1 for that
[21:41] <apachelogger> not even I would interpret that as any version of the GPL
[21:41] <vorian> right-o
[21:41] <vorian> I sent them another email yesterday
[21:41] <vorian> him, rather
[21:42] <vorian> aight, I have to scatter
[21:48] <txwikinger> another discussion about licences?
[22:08] <apachelogger> stdin, smarter: please track your MOTU related activity on your wiki pages
[22:16] <apachelogger> mouz, Xand3r, Arby: please create wiki pages and also track your MOTU related activities there - apparently a good example is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyMercatante ;-)
[22:31] <Arby_> apachelogger: OK, any particular reason why this has come up?
[22:32] <Nightrose> Arby_: better keep track as you do it - later you will forget it
[22:32] <Nightrose> and of course you are part of his secret plan to get workd domination :P
[22:32] <Nightrose> *world
[22:32] <Arby_> fair point
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> lol, was about to mention world domination too
[22:32] <Arby_> just a cog in the wheel :)
[22:32] <Nightrose> ;-)
[22:32] <Arby_> or maybe gear is more appropriate
[22:33] <apachelogger> I think I am gear addicted due to KDE
[22:33] <Arby_> something to do tomorrow then
[22:34] <Arby_> right now back to fixing my R script
[22:34] * apachelogger just got lost in LP
[22:35] * Nightrose hands apachelogger a map and a compas
[22:36] * ScottK shows up with wading boots.
[22:36] <JontheEchidna> We're going in!~
[22:36] <mhb> hey...
[22:36] <mhb> I've got a question about KDE gossip
[22:37] <ScottK> mhb: Hey. How are you.
[22:37] <mhb> it seems there has been some nice affair, regarding aaron perhaps? Unfortunately the only report on planetkde.org is pretty vague... anyone could fill me in or point me to a more detailed blog?
[22:39] <Nightrose> mhb: read ervin's blog
[22:39] <Nightrose> the most important stuff is there
[22:39] <mhb> Nightrose: ervin as in?
[22:39] <Nightrose> and know that a "fix" is being worked on
[22:39] <Nightrose> hmm sec
[22:40] <Nightrose> http://ervin.ipsquad.net/
[22:40] <mhb> thank you very much Nightrose
[22:40] <Nightrose> you're welcome
[22:40] <apachelogger> hum hum
[22:40] <Nightrose> again: nothing that should ever happen again if things work out
[22:40] <apachelogger> LP is worse than a social network
[22:40] <apachelogger> hey mhb, hey ScottK
[22:40] * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna
[22:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: a) wiki page b) tracking motu stuff c) doing motu stuff :P
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> Even though I'm not an motu yet?
[22:41] <mhb> hi apachelogger
[22:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that is my point pretty much ;-)
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> Hehe, work on becoming an motu
[22:42] <apachelogger> well you don't do much of a different work as motu, so it's basically motu work :P
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> Heh
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> yeah, a wiki would probably be nicer than LP for tracking such things
[22:45] * apachelogger continues to search for packagable stuff
[22:47] <mhb> Nightrose: hmm, the way I read it, Plasma was criticised, so he gave up
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> Gave up his public blog life
[22:47] <Nightrose> mhb: there was more to it
[22:48] <Nightrose> and not really giving up
[22:48] <mhb> Nightrose: which I have to disagree with, because although I don't really write blogs and posts about it, plasma really isn't any good for me
[22:48] <apachelogger> Nightrose: bug 121386
[22:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 121386 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] krdm" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121386
[22:48] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hmm?
[22:48] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you are assigned
[22:48] <Nightrose> mhb: please try plasma in beta 2 or even better in the final release
[22:49] <Nightrose> then we will talk again
[22:49] <Nightrose> apachelogger: cehcking
[22:49] <apachelogger> that said
[22:49] <mhb> Nightrose: it's not about bugs
[22:49] <apachelogger> Nightrose: get a wiki page and document your motu work
[22:49] <mhb> Nightrose: I can forgive those
[22:49] <Nightrose> meh apachelogger :P
[22:49] <Nightrose> you got me...
[22:49] <apachelogger> hm
[22:49] <Nightrose> thought i could hide :P
[22:49] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you have to cover me @ amarok
[22:50] <Nightrose> mhb: right - i am not talking about bugs either
[22:50] <apachelogger> forget the wiki page
[22:50] <Nightrose> apachelogger: indeed
[22:50] * apachelogger announces that Nightrose is not going to become motu
[22:50] <Nightrose> :P
[22:50] <Nightrose> apachelogger: about that bug: do with it whatever you want - i am sure i nujed all i have here
[22:51] <Nightrose> *nuked
[22:51] <apachelogger> cool
[22:51] <apachelogger> Nightrose: what is that app anyway?
[22:51] <Nightrose> well some kind of remote thingy you asked me to package
[22:51] <Nightrose> i talked some to the author and started packaging
[22:51] <Nightrose> but it kinda got lost :(
[22:53] <apachelogger> Nightrose: isn't that kinda redundant?
[22:53] <apachelogger> considering KDE has that stuff anyway?
[22:53] <Nightrose> *shrug*
[22:54] <apachelogger> Oo
[22:54] <Nightrose> i just started packaging what you told me to :P
[22:54] * apachelogger doesn't remember krdm
[22:54] <apachelogger> only that logviewer thingy
[22:54] <apachelogger> anyway
[22:54] <apachelogger> Nightrose: close the bug report as won't fix or something
[22:55] <apachelogger> I don't see the usecase, especially since there is no sign of a KDE 4 port
[22:55] <Nightrose> apachelogger: k
[22:55] <Nightrose> doing
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jonathan265
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> ^_^
[23:34] <blistov_> I'm wondering if anyone has noticed yet, that the bcm43xx-fwcutter does not work correctly under 2.6.24-19 (at least with a bcm4310 chipset) ?
[23:38] <Xand3r> hi is it normal that here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qutim/0.1-0ubuntu1 dont appear the changelog?