| [03:56] <RAOF> !xrandr | |
| [03:56] <ubottu> XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | |
| [05:29] <pottytheshitter> I like to dine on my own shit | |
| [05:34] <pottytheshitter> I also race gerbils up my ass | |
| [05:35] <pottytheshitter> Peace | |
| [05:35] <pottytheshitter> !ops | |
| [05:35] <ubottu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jdavies, bazhang or jussi01! | |
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| [06:04] <derekS> hello all. i have interpid running and i noticed new behavior in dual screen mode. my 2 panels (one for each screen) become the length of both monitors (so i now only need one). The catch is I can't have a window list for each screen, is this expected> | |
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| [09:08] <DanaG> Odd: I can't seem to use this bluetooth headset with my computer. | |
| [09:08] <DanaG> Gnome bluetooth thingy shows audio service: stopped. | |
| [09:08] <DanaG> And I can't check or uncheck any of the "Services" boxes. | |
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| [15:13] <amikrop> Hello. Excuse me, but I woud like to express and idea. From Intrepid and on, I think this tactic should be followed: During the installation, the system checks how many root (or something else) partitions there are, and if there is only one, should set "timeout 0" instead of "timeout 3" in /boot/grub/menu.lst. | |
| [15:15] <amikrop> I mean, I think there is no point in slowing down the boot process for no reason. | |
| [15:16] <lamalex> amikrop: that's a terrible idea | |
| [15:16] <amikrop> lamalex: And why's that? | |
| [15:16] <lamalex> what about when you need to run memtest, or get into single user mode | |
| [15:17] <lamalex> or boot an old kernel after a bad upgrade | |
| [15:17] <amikrop> lamalex: Then, you would start pressing "Esc" before even GRUB starts up. | |
| [15:18] <lamalex> :\ that's very cryptic and ugly | |
| [15:18] <lamalex> 3 seconds is a very short period of time | |
| [15:18] <marcreichelt> hi there | |
| [15:19] <marcreichelt> does anybody know how I can install Kubuntu 8.10 (with KDE 4.1 Beta2) in a virtual machine for testing purposes? | |
| [15:24] <Hobbsee> marcreichelt: same as you would on a normal machine.... | |
| [15:25] <marcreichelt> yes, but where do I get the images? ;) | |
| [15:25] <marcreichelt> or do I have to install Kubuntu 8.04 and do a manual upgrade? | |
| [15:26] <Hobbsee> correct. | |
| [15:26] <marcreichelt> okay, that was helpful | |
| [15:27] <marcreichelt> one last question: if I want KDE 4.1 Beta2 as the standard system, should I use Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4? | |
| [15:30] <Hobbsee> um, i don't think it matters. | |
| [15:30] <Hobbsee> it looks like it's switching to kde4 by default (one of my kde3 apps just upgraded to a kde4 one) | |
| [15:34] <mcquaid> not entriped related but kinda desperate. gutsy --> hardy upgrade seemed to go fine but hardy fails to boot. Also fails in recovery mode and even the old gutsy kernel left behind fails to boot as well | |
| [15:34] <mcquaid> i've booted off a live cd. apt-get update says everything is up to date. Is there a way to reconfigure everything from a chroot envrionment? | |
| [15:34] <mcquaid> dpkg-reconfigure -a didn't go well | |
| [15:34] <marcreichelt> okay, thanks Hobbsee | |
| [15:35] * marcreichelt is ready to test Intrepid... | |
| [15:35] <Hobbsee> marcreichelt: you're welcome, but it's still kinda broken. | |
| [15:35] <Hobbsee> !chroot | |
| [15:35] <ubottu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box | |
| [15:36] <Hobbsee> mcquaid: use sudo chroot /path/to/bad/system su | |
| [15:37] <mcquaid> su at the end? | |
| [15:37] <mcquaid> didn't use that... | |
| [15:37] <Hobbsee> you can use either, i think | |
| [15:37] <Hobbsee> as in, either su, or nothing. | |
| [15:37] <Hobbsee> i think either dump you in a root shell, from memory | |
| [15:38] <mcquaid> ok well i did that (without su) and it seems like a noraml chroot environ, but doing dpkg-reconfigure -a gives a lot of errors like: | |
| [15:38] <mcquaid> stuff dealing with /proc filesystems | |
| [15:38] <Hobbsee> !pastebin | |
| [15:38] <ubottu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | |
| [15:38] <mcquaid> cause their not mounted/setup | |
| [15:38] <Hobbsee> er, they shouldn't be errors - or at least, not fatal ones | |
| [15:42] <mcquaid> Hobbsee, this is what i get doing dpkg-reconfigure -a from the live cd via chroot: | |
| [15:42] <mcquaid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22872/ | |
| [15:42] <mcquaid> certainly doesn't look like a complete reconfigure... | |
| [15:43] <Hobbsee> mcquaid: i suspect you wanted dpkg --configure -a? | |
| [15:44] <Hobbsee> but no, it doesn't. | |
| [15:44] <mcquaid> actually i tried dpkg --configure -a first but it does nothing | |
| [15:45] <mcquaid> it's been a long time but i thought there was a way to make a more complete chroot environ with dev/sys/proc set up | |
| [15:45] <mcquaid> i'm wondering if it would avoid these errors | |
| [15:49] <Hobbsee> figuring out how to mount /proc is probably a good idea, yes. | |
| [15:53] <h3sp4wn_> either mount --bind or just mounting a seperate /proc will work | |
| [15:56] <mcquaid> not sure if i'm correct did it this way: sudo mount -t proc proc /media/gutsy/proc | |
| [15:57] <mcquaid> but not dpkg-reconfigure -a fails at acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy | |
| [15:57] <mcquaid> so i've probably setup proc incorrectly... | |
| [15:59] <mcquaid> hmm, it looks setup ok. but there is no event under proc/acpi | |
| [15:59] <mcquaid> is there a way to tell dpkg-reconfigure to skip/continue | |
| [16:01] <mcquaid> i'm wondering if i don't have event cause it's a chroot environ | |
| [16:01] <mcquaid> there should be an easier way to reconfigure pkgs from a live cd | |
| [16:08] <h3sp4wn_> basically you can just look in /var/lib/dpkg/info and change the right line to - echo 'whatever' and then it will past it | |
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| [16:58] <EagleScreen> hello | |
| [16:59] <EagleScreen> will kubuntu 8.10 use desktop effects? | |
| [16:59] <rsk> dunno | |
| [17:00] <Luckrider_> !pastebin | |
| [17:00] <ubottu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | |
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| [17:46] <cbr> is it a known bug that kernel 2.6.26 and usplash fail? | |
| [17:46] <cbr> and iwl-wifi fails too | |
| [19:38] <Kaivijz> Hi everyone | |
| [19:38] <ethana2> hello | |
| [19:43] <Kaivijz> How can i help the community to develop ubuntu further? | |
| [19:44] <ethana2> alpha testing, brainstorm... | |
| [19:44] <Kaivijz> I really want to help, but i am not that great in programming | |
| [19:44] <ethana2> ah | |
| [19:44] <ethana2> ...yes, alpha testing and brainstorm | |
| [19:44] <ethana2> I don't code either | |
| [19:44] <Kaivijz> Ok | |
| [19:45] <Kaivijz> And bug resolving? Do you know in what language ubuntu is made, C++, C#,Python | |
| [19:45] <ethana2> all | |
| [19:45] <ethana2> the kernel and core utils are C | |
| [19:46] <Kaivijz> Ok, do you know what mentoring is? | |
| [19:46] <ethana2> a lot of the configuration scripts are bash and python | |
| [19:46] <Kaivijz> Ok | |
| [19:46] <ethana2> some apps are C++, C#, and python | |
| [19:46] <ethana2> mentoring? yeah | |
| [19:46] <ethana2> you ever done any packaging? | |
| [19:46] <Kaivijz> Is it just like a teacher? Who helps you learn things and advices you. | |
| [19:47] <ethana2> #ubuntu-motu may be able to use you | |
| [19:47] <Kaivijz> No | |
| [19:47] <ethana2> yeah, pretty much | |
| [19:47] <Kaivijz> Ok | |
| [19:48] <Kaivijz> Packaging is making .deb files? | |
| [19:48] <ethana2> pretty much | |
| [19:52] <Kaivijz> Ok, i am actually reading the MOTU site at the moment | |
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| [20:25] <WelshDragon> Any word on first alpha yet? | |
| [20:54] <ethana2> postponed | |
| [20:54] <ethana2> may be the word you're looking for | |
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