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[08:09] <ccm> dholbach: ping
[08:10] <ccm> dholbach: there is a tiny problem with the announcement of the chat for today
[08:11] <ccm> dholbach: while Jorge Castro writes in his blog that it's in #ubuntu-classroom, the official announcement states #ubuntu-meeting
[08:11] <ccm> ah
[08:11] <ccm> jcastro: ping
[08:11] <dholbach> URGH
[08:12] <dholbach> I'll tell him to change it and follow up on his blog post
[08:12] <ccm> dholbach: fine
[08:12] <dholbach> just in case, I'll be in #ubuntu-classroom too
[08:12] <ccm> right
[08:12] <ccm> me too
[08:14] <dholbach> ccm: thanks for letting me know
[08:15] <ccm> just selfish
[08:15] <ccm> :)
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=== ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 20 Jun 16:00 UTC: How to run a Bug Jam | 21 Jun 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community | 21 Jun 19:00 UTC: How to run a Bug Jam | 22 Jun 18:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mozilla Team | 24 Jun 15:00 UTC:  Server Team | 24 Jun 18:00 UTC: LoCo Council
[15:06] <riot_le> ccm: ping
[15:36] <ccm> riot_le: yes
[15:37] <riot_le> do you got my mail?
[15:37] <riot_le> i didnt get a reply and dont know if our smtp working properly
[15:48] <ccm> riot_le: uhm, can you give me the subject?
[15:53] <riot_le> the Ubuntu-BBQ in Leipzig next Week
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[16:30] <dholbach> @schedule berlin
[16:30] <ubottu> dholbach: Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 20 Jun 18:00: How to run a Bug Jam | 21 Jun 19:00: Xubuntu Community | 21 Jun 21:00: How to run a Bug Jam | 22 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu Mozilla Team | 24 Jun 17:00:  Server Team | 24 Jun 20:00: LoCo Council
[16:40] <xander21c> Hello
[16:41] <pedro_> hey hey xander21c!
[16:43] <xander21c> how you doing?
[16:43] <pedro_> xander21c: I'm pretty good, thanks. How's everything going in Peru?
[16:46] <xander21c> good, I'm currenly fighting with a printer
[16:48] <pedro_> hehe good luck
=== ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: How to run a Bug Jam | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 21 Jun 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community | 21 Jun 19:00 UTC: How to run a Bug Jam | 22 Jun 18:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mozilla Team | 24 Jun 15:00 UTC:  Server Team | 24 Jun 18:00 UTC: LoCo Council
[16:59] <dholbach> hello everybody!
[17:00] <dholbach> Who's here and wants to know more about Bug Jams?
[17:00]  * jacob raises hand
[17:00] <jacob> hallo
[17:00] <ccm> a hello from me too
[17:00] <pedro_> hi hi
[17:00] <dholbach> hey jacob :)
[17:00] <JonReagan> me me me!
[17:00] <bernaz> hi
[17:00] <ccm> that looks nice
[17:00] <dholbach> let's do a quick round of introductions and see where we're all from :)
[17:01] <dholbach> I'm Daniel Holbach, member of the Berlin, Germany team :)
[17:01] <jacob> Jacob Peddicord of the Ohio USA team
[17:01] <ccm> I am Caspar Clemens Mierau, also member of the Berlin, Germany and busy with organising community stuff directly here in Berlin
[17:01] <JonReagan> I'm Jon Reagan from the Georgia LoCo Team (US)
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[17:02] <dholbach> looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/ there should be some folks from Chile, Peru, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Chigao and Columbia who are already planning bug jams
[17:03] <pedro_> hey I'm Pedro Villavicencio from Chile ;-)
[17:03] <dholbach> but mayybe they're going to be at tomorrow's session
[17:03] <dholbach> so are you all busy with planning already?
[17:03] <ccm> are had even a first try?
[17:03] <dholbach> I'd like to keep this as an open discussion so whenever you have clever ideas or questions, just speak up :)
[17:04] <JonReagan> completely new to this... ;)
[17:04] <jacob> right now we've only got out to spreading the word, nothing planned yet
[17:04] <dholbach> jcastro's Loco had a Bug Jam already and ccm and I organised one in Berlin
[17:04] <dholbach> jacob: great - how did you let people know about it?
[17:05] <jacob> dholbach: team mailing list - though i'm not sure who all received it, LP doesn't show subscriber list
[17:05] <dholbach> ah right
[17:05] <jacob> but i've seen talk of it in our channel as well
[17:05] <dholbach> I mailed the Berlin team for the Global Bug Jam too to get an idea what kind of packages people are interested in
[17:05] <dholbach> excellent
[17:05] <ccm> jacob: already found a place for it?
[17:05] <jacob> ccm: nope
[17:06] <techno_freak> dholbach, the Indian team is planning to have the bug jam mainly in its irc channel, while people from the same city might try to group together and work
[17:06] <dholbach> techno_freak: great - do you have contacts in the various cities of India who you could poke?
[17:06] <jacob> ccm: we're right at the beginning stages. we'll probably decide on a place in the coming weeks
[17:06] <ccm> well, sitting together in real, if possible, has of course some nice advantages
[17:06] <dholbach> ccm: absolutely
[17:07] <dholbach> maybe ccm and I should talk a bit about what we did in Berlin in case people are interested?
[17:07] <techno_freak> dholbach, yes, we have been getting some members to offer space, food and internet at main cities, hope more can chip in
[17:07] <ccm> on the one hand you can show things, on the other hand, it is really fun, sitting together
[17:07] <dholbach> techno_freak: that sounds awesome - try to get them to add the state of their planning on to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam - that way we could ping people and see how their planning is coming on?
[17:07] <jacob> something i'd like to throw out there - it's difficult to get a bunch of Ohioans in one place, and while I'm sure we'll have a city-based jam, maybe ustream is an alternative option for those who can't make the location?
[17:08] <dholbach> jacob: by upstream you mean "hanging out together on IRC"?
[17:08] <techno_freak> dholbach, sure will add the Indian team there :) as of now am coordinating it for the team
[17:08] <dholbach> techno_freak: thanks for that
[17:08] <jacob> dholbach: no no, ustream.tv, a video streaming service :)
[17:08] <techno_freak> dholbach, we also plan to have a few session before that so people have a clue what to do :)
[17:08] <ccm> jacob: well video is neat replacement, of course (when its working :)
[17:09] <dholbach> jacob: ahhh! how would that work? it sounds interesting
[17:09] <dholbach> techno_freak: that's a topic we should definitely talk about while we're all here
[17:09] <techno_freak> :)
[17:10] <ccm> maybe we can talk about some experiences from our bug jam
[17:10] <jacob> dholbach: since ustream allows you to mix feeds together into one stream, there could even be multiple people in one video. ustream also sets up a video chat via IRC that lets users communicate right on the video feed
[17:10] <ccm> for the "advertisement": it's not easy motivating a lot of people for a bug jam, as it is "unsexy" at a first look, so you have to make it attractive to the bunch
[17:11] <techno_freak> ccm, more importantly things to avoid/be careful/have-an-eye-on during bug jam will also help :)
[17:11] <dholbach> jacob: that sounds awesome - we should add that information to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam
[17:11] <ccm> that is: by the event itself (location) or by trying to tell people, that bug jamming can help themselves, too
[17:11] <jacob> dholbach: cool - i'll add it on there afterwards
[17:12] <ccm> so bug jamming a package you use often, for instance is just in your own interest
[17:12] <ccm> people really understand this point
[17:13] <dholbach> so what ccm and I did in Berlin was book a location that we had events in before - we were in a workshop room and had around 10-15 people showing up (Germany played soccer in the European championships that day :-))
[17:13] <dholbach> I did a short "presentation" about general bug triage info first
[17:13] <ccm> yes, it was close to a wonder, more than two people showed up
[17:13] <ccm> :)
[17:13] <dholbach> hehe
[17:14] <dholbach> I think it took around one hour to talk about what the "bug lifecycle" is, how bugs can be forwarded upstream, what a subscriber is, what an assignee is, etc
[17:14] <ccm> yeah, an important hour
[17:14] <ccm> as people need to understand the launchpad and bug concept
[17:14] <dholbach> until August we're going to fix up some of the documentation to make it even more obvious if people read the docs beforehand
[17:14] <bdmurray> Does the whole life cycle need to be covered?
[17:15] <dholbach> bdmurray: it was the "big picture" - what's needed to make a bug more useful, what information is needed etc
[17:15] <ccm> bdmurray: well at least the life cycle for triaging from my point of view
[17:15] <dholbach> just to get an understanding what it means if a bug goes from unconfirmed to confirmed, etc
[17:15]  * ccm nods at dholbach 
[17:15] <dholbach> also it'd be nice if we could get some folks to translate the docs (but that'll be a separate announcement)
[17:15] <techno_freak> dholbach, do you have materials available to us, on the introduction talk?
[17:15] <dholbach> maybe we could even have some presentation material
[17:15] <bdmurray> Right, I was just thinking that not every single bug state needed to covered.
[17:16] <ccm> bdmurray: yes, you are right with this
[17:16] <dholbach> techno_freak: right now I'd advise people to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[17:16] <techno_freak> ok
[17:16] <ccm> techno_freak: well actually there is already a lot of great documentation on the official wiki
[17:16] <dholbach> bdmurray: it'd be nice to have some kind of selection on what is essential
[17:16] <ccm> I agree with dholbach, that translations are a big issue
[17:16] <dholbach> ccm: I guess it just needs to be a bit condensed for a "at one glance" overview
[17:17] <dholbach> *nod*
[17:17] <bdmurray> dholbach: like an outline of topics for a into to triage class?
[17:17] <ccm> of course working on bugs has to be done in English at some point, but the introductions in "native" languages would be great
[17:17] <dholbach> bdmurray: exactly, maybe a fancy diagram or two to go with it :)
[17:17] <ccm> yes, images :)
[17:17] <bdmurray> dholbach: right :)
[17:18] <dholbach> of course that triggered a bunch of questions like "if you look at bugs <n+1>, what am I supposed to do with it?"
[17:18] <dholbach> if people are at the stage of looking at bugs themselves and thinking about how to solve them, the bug jam already was a success :)
[17:19] <dholbach> I'm sure that bdmurray and his #ubuntu-bugs cronies will cook up some list of easy targets (like 'new' bugs that need confirmation, etc.)
[17:19] <dholbach> jacob, techno_freak, JonReagan, bernaz: have you been involved in bug triage already?
[17:19] <dholbach> (and everybody else who's lurking in here and interested in getting a bug jam started)
[17:20] <jacob> i have, though not as actively as I have been
[17:20] <techno_freak> dholbach, i have been, whenever i found free time
[17:20] <dholbach> techno_freak, jacob: if you have people on your team who have been dealing with bugs already, that's a great start - it's good to have somebody around locally who can answer questions
[17:21] <dholbach> I hope I didn't scare bernaz away
[17:21] <ccm> i noticed that one should even be prepared for questions like "why is it called 'bug triage'?"
[17:21] <ccm> :)
[17:21] <techno_freak> dholbach, we are trying to have one such resource in each place, at least as much as we can :)
[17:21] <dholbach> right... we got that one too
[17:21] <dholbach> it's going to ROCK, I just know it
[17:22] <dholbach> and it'd be awesome to get as many awesome stories, pictures, videos, ... as possible on to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/Stories
[17:22] <ccm> a nice warm up, is showing live bug examples and easy things like finding duplicates
[17:22] <ccm> and launchpad is full of duplicates
[17:22] <dholbach> do you guys have any questions or things we should probably bear in mind?
[17:23] <ccm> dholbach: you wrote down some things to remember for the next bug jam
[17:23] <ccm> dholbach: do you remember them right now?
[17:24] <dholbach> a lot of the points were about fixing our docs, also about 5-a-day fixes
[17:24] <dholbach> one thing we could try is something like:
[17:24] <dholbach> group people locally in groups of four (or some other number) who work on the same bug list
[17:25] <ccm> yes, actually groups are quite powerful
[17:25] <ccm> as the people can chat about decisions they make
[17:25] <dholbach> I just imagine it would be much more fun if you get something like "oh yeah, I looked at that bug before and I saw a similar bug upstream, let me give you the link"
[17:25] <dholbach> exactly
[17:26] <ccm> dholbach: did you already spread the word about gobby?
[17:26] <dholbach> one "problem" we had in Berlin was that whenever somebody asked a question, everybody looked at me and stopped what they were doing and expected some kind of lecture
[17:26] <ccm> i don't know if everybody knows it
[17:26] <dholbach> it wasn't a big problem, just a bit disruptive to what the people were doing themselves
[17:26] <dholbach> jacob, techno_freak, JonReagan: do you know about gobby?
[17:26]  * jacob loves gobby
[17:27] <ccm> yeah, that's why its good to start with an introduction, but just to start with it and then to split into groups
[17:27] <techno_freak> dholbach, yes, we use to work on our loco team wiki collaboratively :)
[17:27] <ccm> jacob: and gobby loves you, hehe
[17:27] <dholbach> great
[17:27] <jacob> :d
[17:27] <dholbach> we used it to share links in the team and take notes
[17:27] <jacob> :D*
[17:27] <dholbach> that worked out really well
[17:27] <jacob> it's a great editor once it is setup - the setup is the only strange part
[17:27] <ccm> yes, the room is till available
[17:27] <ccm> :)
[17:28] <ccm> eh still
[17:28] <dholbach> jacob: if you use gobby.ubuntu.com as a server it's pretty straightforward
[17:28] <jacob> dholbach: ooh, haven't tried that
[17:28] <dholbach> :)
[17:29] <ccm> dholbach: we should write that down, somewhere
[17:30]  * dholbach took a note
[17:30] <ccm> :)
[17:30] <ccm> scrollkeeper dholbach
[17:30] <dholbach> what I'm interested in is: how do we get the word out to the city teams?
[17:31] <tnseditor> hi everyone
[17:31] <dholbach> I'm sure there are a lot of people on the xyz ubuntu forum who didn't hear about the Global Bug Jam yet who might be interested in running this in their city
[17:31] <dholbach> hi tnseditor
[17:31] <dholbach> tnseditor: insterested in running a Bug Jam?
[17:31] <jacob> hey tnseditor (i dragged him in here :P)
[17:31] <tnseditor> :-p
[17:31] <dholbach> ROCK :)
[17:32] <tnseditor> jacob: next time you don't have to drag me, just give me a map.... dragging is too painful
[17:32] <tnseditor> :-p
[17:32] <jacob> heh
[17:32] <dholbach> so do you have any ideas how we could do that? we covered it on the fridge on planet and I think on some forums already
[17:32] <tnseditor> hi ropetin
[17:33] <dholbach> (also loco-contacts@lists.u.c and ubuntu-event-planners@lists.u.c)
[17:33] <ropetin> Hullo
[17:33] <dholbach> hi ropetin: also interested in running a bug jam?
[17:34] <jacob> i'm sure we could get something stuck on the main forums (probably cafe) about it
[17:34] <ccm> dholbach: are we actually going for the guiness book this august? :)
[17:34] <dholbach> ccm: we should definitely aim for it!
[17:34] <ccm> right
[17:34] <ccm> here we go
[17:35] <dholbach> jacob: good idea
[17:36] <dholbach> how busy are the ubuntu-<country code> mailing lists?
[17:36] <techno_freak> some creative soul could create some banner and countdown for the global bug jam that we can add to our blogs ;)
[17:36] <ccm> dholbach: maybe we should create something like a blog footer with a counter and a "join" link
[17:36] <dholbach> would it make sense to give people a heads-up there?
[17:36] <dholbach> techno_freak: great one!
[17:36] <jacob> techno_freak: is that a challenge? :o
[17:37] <pedro_> techno_freak: that would be awesome
[17:37] <dholbach> that would totally rock
[17:38] <dholbach> ccm: is there a lot of traffic on the ubuntu-de list? would it make sense to mail the list?
[17:38] <ccm> dholbach: let me check this
[17:39] <ccm> dholbach: 557 messages in may
[17:39] <dholbach> woohoo
[17:39] <ccm> dholbach: so it's not a dessert
[17:39] <ccm> aeh
[17:39] <ccm> desert?
[17:39] <ccm> never mind
[17:39] <ccm> :)
[17:39] <dholbach> no, not really :)
[17:39] <dholbach> great
[17:39] <tnseditor> I need dessert :-p
[17:39] <dholbach> I'll send a mail to them out soon
[17:39] <dholbach> hehe
[17:40] <ccm> tnseditor: :)
[17:40]  * ccm blushes
[17:40] <dholbach> techno_freak: thanks for adding IndianTeam! :)
[17:40] <ropetin> dholbach, I'm really interested in learning how I can help Ubuntu, and bug related stuff seems most likely for me
[17:40] <dholbach> techno_freak added City "Any" :-)
[17:40] <dholbach> ropetin: we were discussing it earlier and came to the conclusion that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs is the best bet right now
[17:41] <dholbach> ... for people who wanted to get started with bug triage
[17:41] <techno_freak> dholbach, :) we would love to join in
[17:41] <dholbach> ropetin: are you also interested in organising an event where people meet up locally and do bug triage together?
[17:41] <ropetin> dholbach, yes, we in the Florida LoCo are kinda scattered, but we could get together for something worthwhile
[17:42] <dholbach> ropetin: do you have contacts in the bigger cities that would be interested in hosting/organising something like this?
[17:42] <ropetin> One question on triaging though, I've done a couple, but I'm worried I'll end up troubleshooting the problem
[17:42] <dholbach> if it's just not feasible at all, there's always IRC and #ubuntu-bugs
[17:42] <ropetin> dholbach, Yes, we have people in Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Orlando and Jacksonville
[17:42] <dholbach> we plan to have a huge presence there and especially try to tie in Upstream developers who can help with questions about specific packages
[17:42] <dholbach> ropetin: that sounds awesome
[17:43] <dholbach> ropetin: anything you (and your friends) can do to make a bug report more meaningful and better in any way is highly appreciated
[17:43] <dholbach> having fun together, making Ubuntu better and having a few beer/<orwhateverelse> afterwards is what it's all about :)
[17:43] <ropetin> dholbach, so the question I have is should I add to the bug with 'trouble shooting' questions, or contact the submitter directly?
[17:44] <ropetin> And then only put bug related stuff in the bug?
[17:44] <dholbach> ropetin: best to add it all to the bug report itself
[17:44] <ropetin> Cool, ok, thanks, as long as people don't get mad at me for it :)
[17:44] <dholbach> that way it's visible to everybody else who takes a look at the bug
[17:44] <dholbach> not at all
[17:44] <ccm> dholbach: maybe you tell some things about integrating  5-a-day in a bug jam
[17:45] <dholbach> if you're uncertain we have our QA experts in #ubuntu-bugs who are happy to help out :)
[17:45] <dholbach> ccm: very good point
[17:45] <ropetin> Excellent, I'll try my hand at triaging again then
[17:45] <dholbach> who in her doesn't know about 5-a-day yet? :)
[17:45] <ccm> (try to beat the Berlin team, haha)
[17:45] <dholbach> so 5-a-day was the initiative to try to get as many people as possible to do at least 5 bugs a day
[17:46] <dholbach> and by doing we didn't necessarily mean "fix these bugs"
[17:46] <dholbach> but work on them, try to improve them, confirm them, etc
[17:46] <dholbach> Then we have this little tool you can use to submit the bugs you worked on and they'll turn up at http://daniel.holba.ch/5-a-day-stats/
[17:46] <dholbach> who of you is a 5-a-day'er already?
[17:46] <jacob> i was on 5-a-day for a bit, but then left because of lack of available time. this summer I should have plenty of it though :D
[17:47] <dholbach> I know that ccm, pedro_ and bdmurray are :)
[17:47]  * techno_freak rises his hand
[17:47]  * dholbach hugs jacob
[17:47] <dholbach> good work
[17:47]  * dholbach hugs techno_freak too :)
[17:47] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day#Log has more info about how get the tool set up (and how to make it recognise what team you're in)
[17:47] <dholbach> also we decided to use tags for the individual teams for the global bug jam
[17:47] <snap-l> I'm on 5 a day as well. (Craig from the Michigan Loco Team)
[17:47]  * techno_freak is surprised to find him still at #33 in the stats :P
[17:48] <ccm> one should add, that dholbach himself wrote the 5-a-day script :)
[17:48] <snap-l> Would it be out of line to ask for a feature request for the 5-a-day applet? :)
[17:48] <dholbach> snap-l: ROCK! :)
[17:48] <dholbach> Michigan is pretty active :)
[17:48] <ccm> snap-l: i guess, dholbach likes to hear about it
[17:49] <dholbach> snap-l: not at all
[17:49] <jacob> (wasn't there a 5-a-day plugin for gnome-do at some point?)
[17:49] <dholbach> jacob: REALLY? I didn't know
[17:49] <snap-l> Specifically a larger icon that doesn't require using "The Force" to drag-and-drop over?
[17:49] <dholbach> snap-l: good idea
[17:49] <dholbach> snap-l: would you mind adding it to https://bugs.launchpad.net/five-a-day/+filebug so I don't forget?
[17:49] <jacob> dholbach: i vaguely remember something like it
[17:49] <snap-l> Sure thing
[17:50] <dholbach> snap-l: cheers
[17:50] <ccm> my greatest experience from the last bug jam was, that i wrote my first patch in c for pidgin/otr and it even got accepted on the project upstream
[17:50]  * dholbach hugs ccm
[17:51] <ccm> that really makes yearning for more bugs bugs bugs
[17:51] <dholbach> of course the Bug Jam will be a lot about hugging too :)
[17:51] <dholbach> I'm really excited about lots and lots and lots of Bug Jams all around the world
[17:52] <snap-l> dholbach: Other than that little complaint, I love the 5-a-day script / applet
[17:52]  * james_w hugs dholbach 
[17:52]  * dholbach hugs james_w back
[17:52] <ccm> flashhug :)
[17:52] <dholbach> james_w: are we going to have UK participateion in the Global Bug Jam?
[17:52] <dholbach> :)
[17:53] <james_w> dholbach: I hope so, but I'm still having trouble dreaming up a suitable venue.
[17:53] <dholbach> snap-l: I'm glad you say that :)
[17:53] <dholbach> james_w: Millbank Tower! :)
[17:54] <james_w> dholbach: I don't want to face the arctic conditions.
[17:54] <dholbach> I'm sure that popey will know a place :)
[17:54] <popey> hmm?
[17:54] <dholbach> popey: UK participation in the Global Bug Jam!
[17:54] <popey> would millbank be available?
[17:54] <dholbach> popey: no idea
[17:54] <popey> or do you not have much space there?
[17:55] <popey> would clan be the best person to ask?
[17:55] <dholbach> everybody: do you or your loco have a list of venues you've had events at before?
[17:55] <dholbach> popey: I guess so
[17:55] <popey> will ask her
[17:55] <james_w> popey: when I inquired I was told that weekends weren't great as they turn the heating off in the building, and so everyone would have to wear plenty of layers.
[17:55] <dholbach> popey: ROCK :)
[17:56] <james_w> inquired? enquired?
[17:56] <tnseditor> time for lunch... be back eventually
[17:56] <dholbach> tnseditor: enjoy it
[17:56] <popey> dholbach: will ask on the mailing list for venue suggestions
[17:56] <techno_freak> dholbach, we hope to find some universities, which supports local LUGs, to help :)
[17:56] <dholbach> excellent!
[17:56] <dholbach> it seems like the venue question seems to be the most pressing one in terms of organisation
[17:57] <jacob> all of our events have traditionally been at Panera Bread locations, but I know someone available to get space at OSU, a columbus college
[17:57] <ccm> techno_freak: yes, universities are quite open minded towards this and have the right equipment
[17:57] <dholbach> techno_freak: that's a great idea and it'd be nice to keep a list of venues you've been to before and that worked out well - like on a wiki page just for future events
[17:57] <techno_freak> dholbach, ya we will, once we are sure of venues :)
[17:57] <snap-l> We held our last one at a local library that offered space for free if you have a member with a membership
[17:58] <snap-l> The only drawback was wifi access was restricted to get outside the library.
[17:58] <dholbach> snap-l: did they have an old librarian who told you to be quiet all the time? :-)
[17:58] <popey> dholbach: remind me what date the jam is?
[17:58] <snap-l> Nah, it was a conference room
[17:58] <dholbach> snap-l: ah great
[17:58] <popey> 8-10/aug?
[17:58] <dholbach> popey: August 8-10
[17:58] <dholbach> yep
[17:59] <dholbach> that sounds pretty awesome
[17:59] <dholbach> do you have any questions or anything you're unsure about in terms of organisation and getting the word out?
[17:59] <dholbach> or anything else related to the "running the bug jam"?
[18:00] <ccm> guys: please take pictures of your sessions and blog them
[18:00] <ccm> :)
[18:00] <dholbach> yeah, definitely :)
[18:00] <ccm> that reminds me of sending my pictures to dholbach
[18:00] <dholbach> ccm: do it! :)
[18:01] <dholbach> OK... if that's everything, thanks everybody for being here and thanks for doing the GREAT work that you do
[18:01]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[18:01] <dholbach> There's going to be another session tomorrow at Saturday, June 21st 19:00 UTC with the dynamic duo of Greg Grossmeier and Jorge Castro
[18:01]  * jacob applauds
[18:02]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[18:02]  * dholbach hugs y'all
[18:02] <dholbach> thanks ccm for taking the time :)
[18:02] <dholbach> and please let me know if you run into trouble or have further questions
[18:02] <dholbach> please mail me
[18:03] <ccm> hugs from me, too
[18:03]  * techno_freak hugs dholbach ccm bdmurray popey jacob snap-l james_w 
[18:03] <dholbach> yoohoo! :)
[18:03]  * jacob hugs all back
[18:04] <snap-l> Bug hug!
[18:08] <afflux> gah. /me is always late for meetings. :(
[18:10] <tnseditor> back
[18:11]  * james_w buys afflux a watch
[18:15] <popey> dholbach: clan & ubuntu-uk mailed
[18:15] <dholbach> popey: cheers
[18:15] <dholbach> this is going to be GREAT
[18:18] <dholbach> jacob: thanks a lot for adding info about upstream.tv to the wiki
[18:19] <jacob> no prob dholbach
[18:19] <james_w> popey: thanks
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