| [00:23] <aestetix> 1024 at the moment | |
| [00:25] <PsynoKhi0> I mean, the thinkwiki doesn't list many different resolutions... 2 models have 1024 as max | |
| [00:26] <aestetix> Ahh. | |
| [00:29] <PsynoKhi0> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60 | |
| [01:00] <JebJoya2> is it just me that can't get on to #ubuntu? | |
| [01:04] <Stroganoff> yes JebJoya2 | |
| [01:06] <JebJoya2> hmm... that's pretty odd... | |
| [01:06] <Stroganoff> JebJoya2 it seems to be caused by that java irc client you are using | |
| [01:06] <JebJoya2> ahh, fair enough | |
| [01:06] <shitstorm> ...i just tried it | |
| [01:07] <JebJoya2> didn't really want to try installing anything on this vista machine :S | |
| [01:08] <Stroganoff> JebJoya2 you should file a bug there: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council | |
| [01:09] <Stroganoff> X-Chat runs on windows btw | |
| [01:09] <JebJoya2> oh, does it? i was just going to use mirc | |
| [01:10] <Stroganoff> http://www.silverex.org/download/ | |
| [01:10] <JebJoya2> lovely, got on using mirc, thanks for that Stroganoff, i'll try to file a bug report as well :) | |
| [01:11] <JebJoya2> ah, not worth it now i've got this up and running | |
| [01:11] <JebJoya2> want to use vista as little as humanly possible! | |
| [01:12] <Stroganoff> delete it then :p | |
| [01:12] <Stroganoff> cheers | |
| [01:17] <cabuloso> anyone has a quick link to a tutorial for codecs and stuff for a fresh xubuntu install ? | |
| [01:20] <PsynoKhi0> cabuloso: hang on | |
| [01:22] <PsynoKhi0> cabuloso: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 | |
| [01:24] <cabuloso> PsynoKhi0: thanks ! | |
| [01:25] <PsynoKhi0> np | |
| [02:11] <Aggrocrag> Hi there | |
| [02:11] <PsynoKhi0> hi | |
| [02:11] <Aggrocrag> Guess I forgot what to add after that. | |
| [02:15] <Aggrocrag> Oh yeah, I had a question | |
| [02:16] <Aggrocrag> The icons on my desktop are invisible, and don't show themselves until I put my mouse over where they are, what can I do about this? | |
| [02:17] <PsynoKhi0> first time I've heard this one... | |
| [02:17] <PsynoKhi0> what icons are there? | |
| [02:18] <Aggrocrag> Could this be caused by running Conky? | |
| [02:18] <PsynoKhi0> as a deamon? | |
| [02:18] <PsynoKhi0> daemon* | |
| [02:18] <Aggrocrag> yeah, i think | |
| [02:18] <Aggrocrag> it's embedded in my desktop | |
| [02:19] <PsynoKhi0> under your icons? | |
| [02:19] <PsynoKhi0> are you using Xfce as your desktop manager? | |
| [02:19] <Aggrocrag> no, i mentioned it because I was thinking it might be covering them up yes i am | |
| [02:19] <Aggrocrag> wait | |
| [02:20] <Aggrocrag> I'm running compiz | |
| [02:20] <PsynoKhi0> ah | |
| [02:20] <Aggrocrag> always get confused with teh compiz | |
| [02:20] <Aggrocrag> wait a second | |
| [02:20] <Aggrocrag> no i'm not | |
| [02:20] <Aggrocrag> I used to when i ran Ubuntu, but not now | |
| [02:20] <Aggrocrag> i forgot i reformatted | |
| [02:21] <Aggrocrag> I just thought I was because the Compositor is on | |
| [02:22] <Aggrocrag> and I'm running AWN | |
| [02:22] <Aggrocrag> so nevermind on the compiz | |
| [02:23] <PsynoKhi0> hmm what icons are we talking about? standard "Trash", "Home", "File System" ocr do you have more? | |
| [02:23] <Aggrocrag> Just the standard ones and a icon for an external hard drive that i have plugged in, | |
| [02:24] <Aggrocrag> Might have found it on good 'ole google though. I added 'conky' to my search terms, I'm gonna check the link | |
| [02:28] <PsynoKhi0> you could check your desktop settings (left click on a free area, settings, second tab, check all boxes at the bottom)... did you keep your /home partition while reformatting? | |
| [02:29] <Aggrocrag> nope, I backed up files on an external drive, but luckily I think I found it in the FAQ's on Conky | |
| [02:29] <Aggrocrag> http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html | |
| [02:30] <PsynoKhi0> ok | |
| [02:30] <Aggrocrag> I'm gonna check it out and get back to you in a few | |
| [02:30] <Aggrocrag> got to twiddle the config file | |
| [02:30] <PsynoKhi0> thought your theme might have some issues | |
| [02:31] <Aggrocrag> hopefully the conky fix works | |
| [02:41] <Aggrocrag> Isolated it to Conky. When I turned conky on manually (instead of turning it on automatically at startup) I saw the icons dissappear | |
| [02:42] <PsynoKhi0> weird | |
| [02:42] <PsynoKhi0> well at least you know | |
| [02:42] <Aggrocrag> I think it's my custom config file, because I didn't have this problem with conky before | |
| [02:43] <Aggrocrag> (I had a different config file) | |
| [02:43] <PsynoKhi0> could be | |
| [02:43] <Aggrocrag> anyway, I'm gonna log off, thank you for your help | |
| [02:43] <PsynoKhi0> np, not like I did much heh | |
| [02:58] <wisema1> hey everyone! | |
| === wisema1 is now known as TheWiseman | |
| [02:59] <TheWiseman> I need some help! | |
| [02:59] <PsynoKhi0> hi | |
| [03:00] <TheWiseman> I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop here. I was running ubuntu before and ubuntu can read my windows partition fine, but xubuntu doesn't appear to see it. What can i do to rectify this? | |
| [03:01] <PsynoKhi0> hmm | |
| [03:01] <TheWiseman> I'd like to continue using xubuntu. I think I like it better than ubuntu or vista. | |
| [03:01] <PsynoKhi0> what kind of windows filesystem is it? NTFS? | |
| [03:01] <TheWiseman> yes | |
| [03:02] <PsynoKhi0> check that you have ntfs-3g installed | |
| [03:02] <TheWiseman> laptop shipped with vista, vista is NTFS | |
| [03:02] <TheWiseman> yep | |
| [03:02] <TheWiseman> like I said | |
| [03:03] <TheWiseman> regular ubuntu reads it just fine | |
| [03:03] <PsynoKhi0> do you still get the dual boot option? | |
| [03:04] <TheWiseman> yep | |
| [03:04] <TheWiseman> well actually triple boot. Ubuntu 19, ubuntu 16, and vista | |
| [03:04] <PsynoKhi0> 19? | |
| [03:04] <TheWiseman> 8.04.19 | |
| [03:05] <PsynoKhi0> ok | |
| [03:05] <TheWiseman> but I use 8.04.16 because the latest one doesn't seem to like my wireless no matter what I do | |
| [03:05] <TheWiseman> but that's a different story | |
| [03:06] <PsynoKhi0> what does your fstab look like? | |
| [03:06] <PsynoKhi0> (use the pastebin if needed please) | |
| [03:07] <TheWiseman> uh....fstab? pastebin? | |
| [03:07] <PsynoKhi0> ah | |
| [03:07] <TheWiseman> I've been up on linux for a couple weeks....my linux-fu is very weak still | |
| [03:07] <PsynoKhi0> check the file called fstab under /etc | |
| [03:08] <PsynoKhi0> one way to do it is to open a terminal and type | |
| [03:08] <PsynoKhi0> cat /etc/fstab | |
| [03:08] <PsynoKhi0> do NOT plaste the result here | |
| [03:08] <PsynoKhi0> paste* | |
| [03:09] <TheWiseman> ok....what am I looking for now? I've got it open | |
| [03:09] <PsynoKhi0> http://paste.ubuntu.com use this instead | |
| [03:10] <TheWiseman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20512/ | |
| [03:10] <PsynoKhi0> if you can access the root partition of an ubuntu version you know accesses your ntfs drive, you can compare the fstab file there with your xubuntu one | |
| [03:11] <PsynoKhi0> fstab = File System TABle | |
| [03:11] <PsynoKhi0> tells your gnu/linux box where drives are, what file system to use on them, privileges and so on | |
| [03:11] <TheWiseman> so what...I should boot into gnome, copy fstab, paste in xfce? | |
| [03:12] <PsynoKhi0> uh... | |
| [03:12] <PsynoKhi0> do you have ubuntuand xubuntu? or gnome and xfce on a same core? | |
| [03:12] <TheWiseman> gnome and xfce in the same core I think | |
| [03:13] <TheWiseman> I select "ubuntu 8.04.16" at startup, the login screen comes up, I select XFCE as the desktop I want, bob's your uncle. | |
| [03:13] <PsynoKhi0> ok | |
| [03:14] <PsynoKhi0> anyway, your fstab doesn't list any ntfs partition so no hcange you can get them automounted | |
| [03:14] <PsynoKhi0> no chance* | |
| [03:15] <PsynoKhi0> you'll have to edit fstab to do so | |
| [03:15] <TheWiseman> k | |
| [03:15] <PsynoKhi0> first you need to know what the partition vista is on is called | |
| [03:16] <TheWiseman> k | |
| [03:16] <PsynoKhi0> I'd say /dev/sda1 by the look of it | |
| [03:17] <TheWiseman> Well on gnome it sees it as a string of letters and numbers | |
| [03:17] <PsynoKhi0> yup | |
| [03:17] * TheWiseman begins to wonder if it's best to leave well enough alone and go back to gnome..... | |
| [03:18] <PsynoKhi0> however to get that string manually, you need to know the partiton :) | |
| [03:18] <TheWiseman> what do you mean? | |
| [03:18] <PsynoKhi0> what bugs me is that I don't see how installing a different desktop could mess up your fstab | |
| [03:19] <TheWiseman> dun dun DUN | |
| [03:19] <TheWiseman> brb, gonna go into gnome | |
| === wiseman is now known as TheWiseman | |
| [03:21] <TheWiseman> Back | |
| [03:21] <TheWiseman> What was that site where I pasted stuff into? | |
| [03:23] <PsynoKhi0> it's in the topic :) | |
| [03:24] <TheWiseman> oh hay | |
| [03:26] <TheWiseman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20513/ | |
| [03:27] <TheWiseman> hrm....comparing, there's nothing different at all | |
| [03:28] <PsynoKhi0> yet you can acces your vista partition? | |
| [03:29] <PsynoKhi0> access* | |
| [03:29] <TheWiseman> yep, plain as day | |
| [03:30] <PsynoKhi0> icons on your desktop and in the file manager? | |
| [03:31] <TheWiseman> not on the desktop immediately, but in the file manager | |
| [03:31] <TheWiseman> when I open in file manager, the icon appears on the desktop | |
| [03:32] <PsynoKhi0> ok | |
| [03:32] <PsynoKhi0> but not in xfce | |
| [03:33] <TheWiseman> nope | |
| [03:33] <TheWiseman> xfce shows only linux stuff | |
| [03:33] <PsynoKhi0> the file manager in gnome is cheating a bit :P | |
| [03:35] <TheWiseman> ? | |
| [03:35] <TheWiseman> cheating is fine if it works | |
| [03:36] <PsynoKhi0> yup but that kind of sucks cause that requires a bit more work | |
| [03:38] <TheWiseman> eh | |
| [03:38] <TheWiseman> I'll stick with gnome for now | |
| [03:38] <TheWiseman> I don't feel like getting into it yet | |
| [03:53] <xbj9000> anyone used gfloppy? | |
| [03:53] <xbj9000> it won't start for me | |
| [03:55] <PsynoKhi0> TheWiseman: what does "sudo fdisk -l" give you? | |
| [03:55] <TheWiseman> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | |
| [03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda1 1 192 1536000 27 Unknown | |
| [03:55] <TheWiseman> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. | |
| [03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda2 * 192 22825 181799936 7 HPFS/NTFS | |
| [03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda3 22826 24040 9759487+ 83 Linux | |
| [03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda4 24041 30400 51086700 5 Extended | |
| [03:56] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda5 24041 24769 5855661 82 Linux swap / Solaris | |
| [03:56] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda6 24770 30400 45230976 83 Linux | |
| [03:56] <PsynoKhi0> ffs dude! pastebin! | |
| [03:56] <TheWiseman> Oh come on....it's not like this room is moving at terrible speed | |
| [03:56] <xbj9000> lol | |
| [03:56] <TheWiseman> simmer down | |
| [03:57] <TheWiseman> besides, it's only like 7 lines | |
| [03:57] <xbj9000> what are you trying to figure out? | |
| [03:57] <TheWiseman> why xfce doesn't see my windows partition but gnome does | |
| [03:58] <xbj9000> hmm, perhaps there's something gnome autoloads that xfce doesn't? | |
| [03:58] <xbj9000> sorry I don't really know | |
| [03:58] <TheWiseman> xbj9000: makes sense to me | |
| [03:58] <zoredache> have you tried mounting it by hand? | |
| [03:59] <TheWiseman> n00b here | |
| [03:59] <magic_ninja> whats the name of that disk mounting tool | |
| [03:59] <TheWiseman> Nobody has told me how to do that | |
| [03:59] <magic_ninja> google it | |
| [03:59] <zoredache> !ntfs | TheWiseman | |
| [03:59] <ubottu> TheWiseman: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE | |
| [03:59] <magic_ninja> error codes, commands, whenever in doubt google and read | |
| [03:59] <xbj9000> what is your fstab line for the windows partition? | |
| [03:59] <magic_ninja> sudo fdisk -l will tell you | |
| [04:00] <PsynoKhi0> xbj9000: he has none | |
| [04:00] <PsynoKhi0> that's what I'm trying to make him do now | |
| [04:00] <TheWiseman> oh hay | |
| [04:00] <xbj9000> no fstab? how is that possible? | |
| [04:00] <TheWiseman> I have fstab | |
| [04:00] <PsynoKhi0> so /dev/sda2 is your windows partiton | |
| [04:00] <TheWiseman> aparently | |
| [04:01] <PsynoKhi0> he has fstab, not ntfs partition line in it | |
| [04:01] <xbj9000> ah | |
| [04:01] <PsynoKhi0> ok thne: | |
| [04:01] <PsynoKhi0> then* | |
| [04:01] <PsynoKhi0> sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda2 | |
| [04:02] <TheWiseman> ok....let's rock this shit | |
| [04:02] <xbj9000> fstab should be something like: | |
| [04:02] <TheWiseman> ok PsynoKhi0 | |
| [04:02] <TheWiseman> now what | |
| [04:03] <TheWiseman> it gave me a string of letters and numbers | |
| [04:03] <xbj9000> dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 | |
| [04:03] <PsynoKhi0> TheWiseman: backup your fstab with "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak" | |
| [04:03] <PsynoKhi0> ntfs-3g? | |
| [04:03] <TheWiseman> k, backed up PsynoKhi0 | |
| [04:03] <xbj9000> also you must create your mount folder (/media/windows) | |
| [04:04] <TheWiseman> oh hey, hang on a sec | |
| [04:04] <xbj9000> yeah unless I forgot something you use ntfs-3g | |
| [04:04] <xbj9000> I think ubuntu now reads ntfs the same as ntfs-3g though | |
| [04:04] <TheWiseman> hang on, in gnome the drive is located in media. I never thought to look there. | |
| [04:04] <xbj9000> so maybe you can use either, hang on I'll make sure | |
| [04:05] <TheWiseman> I was just looking on the main bit. Hang on. | |
| [04:05] <PsynoKhi0> TheWiseman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506 | |
| [04:05] <xbj9000> yeah ntfs-3g | |
| [04:05] <TheWiseman> PsynoKhi0: I don't want to restrict access to the windows partition | |
| [04:06] <TheWiseman> brb, gonna log out and into xfce | |
| [04:06] <PsynoKhi0> no, but there's a nice fstab in there | |
| [04:06] <PsynoKhi0> BAH | |
| [04:06] <xbj9000> so nobody has used gfloppy? | |
| [04:07] <shane_> help my system is goin crazy,its using 1.9 gig of my 2 gig ram and i cant see whats hoggin. iv got kmess runnin konversation and limewire | |
| [04:07] <xbj9000> xfce is being a huge pain about floppies for me | |
| [04:07] <xbj9000> it's limewire lol | |
| [04:07] <xbj9000> most likely | |
| [04:07] <shane_> limewire is usin 2 gig of ram | |
| [04:08] <xbj9000> in terminal type top and see what's using the most cpu | |
| [04:08] <xbj9000> probably the same program is using the most ram also | |
| [04:08] <shane_> 49% is goin to java | |
| [04:08] <xbj9000> actually top will even tell you what's using a lot of ram | |
| [04:08] <xbj9000> %MEM | |
| [04:09] <shane_> of cpu | |
| [04:09] <shane_> 126.7 mem | |
| [04:09] <shane_> mb | |
| [04:09] <xbj9000> 126.7%?? | |
| [04:09] <shane_> 126.7 mib | |
| [04:10] <xbj9000> where did you see that, top gives percents | |
| [04:10] <xbj9000> sorry | |
| [04:11] <wiseman> oh hai | |
| [04:11] <shane_> im in system monitor and none are really goin crazy on the mem but java is takin 50%of my cpu | |
| [04:11] <wiseman> PsynoKhi0: ok, I'm now in xfce | |
| [04:11] <xbj9000> yeah java is bad like that | |
| [04:12] <xbj9000> I suggest trying gtk-gnutella, or at least frostwire | |
| [04:12] <xbj9000> still it shouldn't be using that much ram | |
| [04:12] <wiseman> ok, it doesn't see the windows drive in media either. | |
| [04:12] <wiseman> so let's continue where we left off | |
| [04:12] <xbj9000> ok | |
| [04:12] <shane_> well thats no good how can i correct this its a pd 3 gig with 2 gigs ram i only have 3 things runnin and im maxed | |
| [04:13] <xbj9000> I'm not sure shane_ | |
| [04:13] <xbj9000> wiseman, your windows is /dev/sda2 right? | |
| [04:13] <shane_> oh wait i see i have 1.6 gig of swap hapanin somehow | |
| [04:13] <PsynoKhi0> wiseman: do you still have that link I gave you? | |
| [04:13] <xbj9000> 1.6 used? | |
| [04:14] <wiseman> no, it's gone | |
| [04:14] <PsynoKhi0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506 | |
| [04:14] <PsynoKhi0> there's a fstab line in there that might be of insterest | |
| [04:14] <PsynoKhi0> search the page for /dev/sda1 | |
| [04:15] <wiseman> I think I see what you're talking about | |
| [04:15] <wiseman> but the /dev/sda2 isn't in my fstab at all | |
| [04:15] <wiseman> should I add it? | |
| [04:15] <PsynoKhi0> yep | |
| [04:15] <xbj9000> here's the line from the ubuntu manual | |
| [04:15] <xbj9000> <your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 | |
| [04:16] <xbj9000> so... | |
| [04:16] <wiseman> do I put the # in front of it like the other ones have? | |
| [04:16] <xbj9000> /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale-en_US.utf8 0 0 | |
| [04:17] <xbj9000> lines with # are not read by the system, they are notes for your benefit | |
| [04:17] <wiseman> ok | |
| [04:17] <wiseman> do I need to put in that string of letters and numbers? | |
| [04:17] <xbj9000> you will also have to create the mount point, with a command like sudo mkdir /media/windows | |
| [04:17] <xbj9000> the uuid? no | |
| [04:18] <xbj9000> also you can use another name besides /media/windows, that is just my example | |
| [04:18] <wiseman> uh....I try to save and it says "cannot open file to write" | |
| [04:19] <xbj9000> oh you are editing it as a regular user | |
| [04:19] <xbj9000> open a terminal and type sudo nano /etc/fstab | |
| [04:19] <xbj9000> add the line at the bottom, then ctrl+O then ctrl+X | |
| [04:20] <xbj9000> if you aren't comfortable with that, use sudo mousepad /etc/fstab | |
| [04:21] <wiseman> ok, the deed is done | |
| [04:21] <xbj9000> now you must reboot | |
| [04:22] <wiseman> ZOMG REBOOT?!!!!1 BUT THIS IS LINUX | |
| [04:22] <xbj9000> lol | |
| [04:22] <xbj9000> for it to be read again and take effect, that is.. however | |
| [04:22] <wiseman> K | |
| [04:22] <xbj9000> to go ahead and mount it by hand | |
| [04:22] <xbj9000> type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/windows | |
| [04:22] <wiseman> over the river and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go | |
| [04:23] <shane_> is there somethin i can do a terminal comand that will show what is hapaning ive shut down limewire and i have kmess runnin and konversation yet im still ussin 1.8 gigs of ram and only 8% of a 3 gig dual core cpu this isnt makin sense | |
| [04:23] <wiseman> k xbj9000. | |
| [04:23] <wiseman> Reboot now? | |
| [04:23] <xbj9000> to make sure the fstab is right, yes I would | |
| [04:24] <wiseman> OH HAY | |
| [04:24] <wiseman> the windows folder is working now | |
| [04:24] <xbj9000> :) | |
| [04:24] <wiseman> restarting just verifies that the fstab file is working correctly, right? | |
| [04:24] <xbj9000> yeah when your system starts it reads fstab and mounts partitions accordingly | |
| [04:24] * wiseman chugs a beer | |
| [04:24] <wiseman> HOOOAH | |
| [04:25] <xbj9000> I'm sure it's correct though | |
| [04:26] <wiseman> thank you all so much! | |
| [04:26] <xbj9000> sure | |
| [04:26] <wiseman> me using linux is like a bear flying a space shuttle though | |
| [04:27] <xbj9000> pretty new? | |
| [04:27] <wiseman> very green I'm afraid | |
| [04:27] <xbj9000> it's ok | |
| [04:27] <wiseman> I was appalled by the fact that I had to get a computer with 3 gigs of RAM | |
| [04:27] <wiseman> stupid vista | |
| [04:27] <xbj9000> ? | |
| [04:27] <xbj9000> lol | |
| [04:27] <xbj9000> oh shane_ sorry for forgetting about you | |
| [04:28] <wiseman> so I talked to the only people I knew who were nerdier than me, and they reccomended I try out linux | |
| [04:28] <xbj9000> I'm not sure how to find out what's hogging ram I'll look around | |
| [04:28] <shane_> xbj9000: is there anything in xubuntu that could hog that much ram it stopped on its own whatever it was but thats not normal | |
| [04:28] <xbj9000> hmm | |
| [04:28] <xbj9000> does it happen regularly? | |
| [04:28] <shane_> it almost locked my system complete | |
| [04:29] <shane_> no first time tonight and i installed java and lime today | |
| [04:29] <xbj9000> it's probably related | |
| [04:29] <xbj9000> did you install the real java or one of the open alternatives? | |
| [04:29] <shane_> so get rid of them or is java needed by other apps | |
| [04:29] <shane_> no with lime it took the real java not a clone | |
| [04:29] <xbj9000> limewire is probably the only thing you use java for, but it's sometimes used by websites | |
| [04:30] <xbj9000> 64 bit or 32 bit system? | |
| [04:30] <shane_> 32 | |
| [04:30] <wiseman> ok, off to watch Machine Girl. L8rs and thanks again! | |
| [04:30] <xbj9000> did you do sudo update-alternatives --configure java | |
| [04:31] <xbj9000> sorry | |
| [04:31] <xbj9000> --config java I meant | |
| [04:31] <shane_> no | |
| [04:31] <xbj9000> but you did do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre? | |
| [04:32] <shane_> no when i ran package manager to install limewire it all auto installed | |
| [04:32] <xbj9000> ah | |
| [04:32] <xbj9000> well do sudo update-alternatives --config java and see if the sun version is the selected default | |
| [04:33] <xbj9000> also I really recommend using frostwire instead | |
| [04:33] <shane_> it has 2 selections | |
| [04:33] <xbj9000> also I have a Tango icon theme I made for limewire / frostwire if you want it :) | |
| [04:33] <shane_> java 6 sun and java 6 open | |
| [04:33] <xbj9000> ok type the number for sun and enter | |
| [04:34] <shane_> i think its a conflict with the javas | |
| [04:34] <shane_> 2 | |
| [04:34] <xbj9000> that could be the problem | |
| [04:34] <xbj9000> I mean don't tell me the number, select it in the terminal | |
| [04:34] <shane_> i think so the 2 where conflicting i never even thought of that today | |
| [04:34] <xbj9000> well it uses one or the other | |
| [04:35] <xbj9000> it's possible limewire was using the open one and having some issue with it | |
| [04:35] <xbj9000> you can leave them both installed but you have to do the command I showed you and select sun | |
| [04:35] <shane_> mabey i dunno ill run lime back up now and see what happens i think all good now though | |
| [04:35] <xbj9000> frostwire is identical but has no ads | |
| [04:36] <shane_> i couldnt get frost to go and i did the dos swap over for there errors | |
| [04:36] <xbj9000> and gtk-gnutella does the same things and doesn't use java at all | |
| [04:36] <shane_> gtk i didnt like at all | |
| [04:37] <xbj9000> yeah it's a little complicated | |
| [04:37] <xbj9000> dos swap over? | |
| [04:37] <shane_> i had ktorrent and i liked it but last nite i guess the server had probs and i couldnt get it to work good this mornin | |
| [04:37] <xbj9000> try deluge for torrents | |
| [04:37] <shane_> yah when i install frost it gives icon and no function it doesnt open | |
| [04:37] <xbj9000> sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent | |
| [04:38] <xbj9000> did you try frostwire after setting the java to sun? | |
| [04:38] <shane_> well i guess when the frost team built the program they built it on a win sys so the linux app was made in dos format lol | |
| [04:38] <shane_> search it i laughed | |
| [04:38] <xbj9000> ? | |
| [04:39] <xbj9000> did you install some windows version with WINE or something? | |
| [04:40] <shane_> http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4 | |
| [04:40] <shane_> read that | |
| [04:40] <shane_> thats what i did | |
| [04:41] <shane_> i thought it funny | |
| [04:41] <xbj9000> that's old | |
| [04:42] <xbj9000> direct link to frostwire for ubuntu: | |
| [04:42] <xbj9000> http://www.frostwire.com/download/?os=ubuntu&from= | |
| [04:42] <shane_> lol well i got the newest version from there site and it was for deb linux | |
| [04:42] <shane_> when i searched the prob thats the only thing i could find | |
| [04:43] <shane_> yup thats the same one i used | |
| [04:43] <xbj9000> weird | |
| [04:43] <shane_> either way ill try and install again,will frost and lime conflict also | |
| [04:44] <shane_> or should i remove limewire | |
| [04:44] <xbj9000> I don't think they conflict | |
| [04:44] <shane_> k ill run it up now and see what i get | |
| [04:46] <shane_> i wonder if it was that i didnt have sun in with lime it took it itself but frost didnt do that | |
| [04:46] <xbj9000> could be | |
| [04:46] <shane_> it opened quick and cleen | |
| [04:46] <xbj9000> working now? | |
| [04:46] <xbj9000> good | |
| [04:46] <shane_> yup | |
| [04:46] <xbj9000> now since you use xubuntu let me find you my tango theme :p | |
| [04:46] <shane_> well oil beef hooked | |
| [04:47] <shane_> kk | |
| [04:47] <xbj9000> lol what? | |
| [04:47] <shane_> ok ill try ur them | |
| [04:47] <shane_> say it fast | |
| [04:48] <xbj9000> lol | |
| [04:49] <xbj9000> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805337&highlight=frostwire+tango | |
| [04:50] <xbj9000> here's a pic | |
| [04:50] <xbj9000> http://electronicplaygirl.com/Linux/screenshots/frostwire_tango1.png | |
| [04:52] <shane_> that looks good | |
| [04:52] <xbj9000> thanks | |
| [04:53] <shane_> now how do i add a theme | |
| [04:54] <xbj9000> heh I forget | |
| [04:54] <xbj9000> lemme see | |
| [04:57] <xbj9000> I don't have it on this computer so I'm having a hard time, I made that skin a while back | |
| [04:58] <shane_> ill search it out and find it | |
| [04:58] <xbj9000> I think you just copy it into .frostwire or .limewire in /home/username | |
| [04:59] <shane_> also ,you have xubu ? | |
| [04:59] <shane_> xubuntu | |
| [05:01] <xbj9000> yes | |
| [05:01] <xbj9000> on this machine | |
| [05:01] <shane_> ok how do i make it so i havefrost in the top right corner when i close it | |
| [05:02] <xbj9000> you mean you want to leave it running minimized to the tray? | |
| [05:02] <shane_> yes | |
| [05:02] <shane_> when i close out limewire it stays up till i exit | |
| [05:02] <shane_> as do most p2p apps but frost shuts down | |
| [05:03] <xbj9000> hang on I just installed it | |
| [05:03] <shane_> ok | |
| [05:03] <xbj9000> it may not run on this 500MHz lol | |
| [05:03] <shane_> wow thats an old one | |
| [05:03] <xbj9000> yeah building it for someone | |
| [05:04] <xbj9000> does pretty much everything ok besides flash | |
| [05:04] <shane_> yah i just put together a celleron 1 gig from parts outa the basement | |
| [05:04] <xbj9000> but that's nothing I also have a toshiba 'laptop' from 1990 | |
| [05:04] <xbj9000> 1mb ram | |
| [05:04] <shane_> wow | |
| [05:04] <xbj9000> lol | |
| [05:04] <shane_> lol thats a smokin unit | |
| [05:04] <xbj9000> yeah I just got it | |
| [05:04] <xbj9000> installed DOS and duke nukem 1 & 2 | |
| [05:05] <shane_> ive only got the 3 runnin now | |
| [05:05] <PsynoKhi0> xbj9000: if you get your 500MHz machine to play H264 videos, let me know how you manage | |
| [05:05] <shane_> pd 3 gig a p4 2 gig and my cellory 1 gig | |
| [05:05] <xbj9000> I doubt it, I've never even seen one of those | |
| [05:05] <xbj9000> H264 that is | |
| [05:05] <shane_> h264 vid's | |
| [05:05] <PsynoKhi0> high definition AVI | |
| [05:05] <shane_> iv never heard of them | |
| [05:06] <shane_> ow wow yah i doubt thatl happen | |
| [05:06] <xbj9000> I've seen the name in menus but never encountered one | |
| [05:06] <xbj9000> try vlc? | |
| [05:06] <shane_> that cpu will shut out from heat | |
| [05:06] <shane_> the vic 20,s | |
| [05:06] <xbj9000> may have to resort to converting them before playing | |
| [05:07] <shane_> i had a vic 20 pc when i was around 7 | |
| [05:08] <shane_> i thought it was so cool if i programed for 3 hrs i could make a sentence scroll the whole screen | |
| [05:09] <xbj9000> lol | |
| [05:09] <xbj9000> I was too poor to have computers in those days | |
| [05:09] <xbj9000> what's funny is I bet this toshiba was $10,000 in 1990 | |
| [05:09] <shane_> yah my dad was a drunk so he felt bad after a 2 week binge,either that or one of his friends aquired it | |
| [05:10] <xbj9000> ok here's how to add the theme | |
| [05:10] <shane_> thats 25 years ago | |
| [05:10] <shane_> k | |
| [05:10] <xbj9000> copy it to /home/username/.frostwire/themes | |
| [05:10] <xbj9000> then find it in the menu in frostwire and choose it | |
| [05:10] <xbj9000> them restart frostwire | |
| [05:11] <shane_> ok thats odd in home shane i have no frostwire file | |
| [05:11] <xbj9000> select view hidden files | |
| [05:11] <xbj9000> it's .frostwire | |
| [05:11] <PsynoKhi0> ctrl + H | |
| [05:12] <xbj9000> right | |
| [05:12] <shane_> k gotcha | |
| [05:12] <PsynoKhi0> left | |
| [05:12] <PsynoKhi0> up up down down A B | |
| [05:13] <PsynoKhi0> hey shoot looks like my USB doesn't crash | |
| [05:13] <xbj9000> ? | |
| [05:13] <PsynoKhi0> I've had a long lasting issue with tis computer I'm on right now | |
| [05:14] <PsynoKhi0> the onboard USB would crash after a while | |
| [05:14] <xbj9000> shane_ to leave it running in taskbar, go to Tools > system tray > shutdown after transfers | |
| [05:14] <shane_> ok it says that the skin is out of date | |
| [05:14] <xbj9000> ? won't let you use it? | |
| [05:15] <shane_> its says to get a more current one and then it doesnt find my web browser | |
| [05:15] <shane_> how do i set up my browser as default | |
| [05:15] <xbj9000> well there isn't a more current one | |
| [05:16] <xbj9000> tools > helper apps | |
| [05:16] <shane_> i dunno i said later and then restarted and it hasnt changed | |
| [05:17] <xbj9000> bah | |
| [05:18] <shane_> its listed but it wont take affect and my default browser is mozilla | |
| [05:19] <PsynoKhi0> nopers, crashed again... | |
| [05:19] <xbj9000> yeah edit the default browser to whatever you actually use | |
| [05:19] <xbj9000> probably firefox | |
| [05:20] <xbj9000> I don't get it, I can't use the theme either now | |
| [05:21] <shane_> i dunno i changed my browser and it opened a page here so ill check it out i dont think the tango theme will be there if you built it | |
| [05:21] <xbj9000> yeah it won't | |
| [05:22] <shane_> i wonder if you desighned that on there last version and the new changes wont accept it | |
| [05:24] <xbj9000> no, the other themes still say THEME_VERSION=2 | |
| [05:27] <shane_> hmm i dont know then | |
| [05:27] <xbj9000> makes no sense | |
| [05:27] <xbj9000> :( | |
| [05:27] <xbj9000> themes are pretty simple really | |
| [05:28] <shane_> i havent gotten into that end of linux atall yet im just getting to know it | |
| [05:28] <PsynoKhi0> uh trying to unmount a USB key but I get "An application is using blablabla..." is there a command to check which one it is? | |
| [05:29] <xbj9000> that's making me angry I spent hours on it | |
| [05:29] <shane_> but i have tryed 7 different versions of linux in the last few weeks | |
| [05:29] <xbj9000> which ones? | |
| [05:30] <shane_> all 3 buntus arch freespire gos and linspire | |
| [05:30] <xbj9000> haven't tried arch | |
| [05:30] <xbj9000> didn't like *spire | |
| [05:30] <shane_> i liked kubu and xfce xubuntu | |
| [05:30] <shane_> it was nice for visual but i didnt like its weight | |
| [05:30] <xbj9000> I used to love kde but I stopped | |
| [05:31] <xbj9000> I think kde used to be better than gnome but no longer is | |
| [05:31] <shane_> well i think i might throw kde4 on one of my systems i have down stairs but i think ill wait a few more weeks | |
| [05:31] <shane_> i dunno about that | |
| [05:31] <shane_> iv been useing mostly kde in xubu | |
| [05:32] <shane_> gnome is preety but heavy | |
| [05:32] <xbj9000> why not just use kubuntu then? | |
| [05:32] <PsynoKhi0> yeeouch... *buntu and arch? that's like, the almost opposite sides of the spectrum hehe | |
| [05:32] <shane_> lol yah a bit | |
| [05:33] <shane_> i like xubuntu better but there arent many apps for the xfce | |
| [05:33] <shane_> most are for gnome and kde | |
| [05:34] <PsynoKhi0> I haven't had any issue mixing yet | |
| [05:34] <shane_> no me either | |
| [05:34] <shane_> i found that the system does seem a tad faster opening kde than gnome apps though | |
| [05:34] <PsynoKhi0> to the point I wonder wtf they mean with gnome and kde apps heh | |
| [05:36] <shane_> what is the dif | |
| [05:37] <xbj9000> wtf, i figured out the problem | |
| [05:37] <shane_> cool what was it | |
| [05:37] <xbj9000> well for some reason the Tango_theme folder is created 2 deep | |
| [05:38] <xbj9000> there is a Tango_theme folder inside of a Tango_theme folder | |
| [05:38] <xbj9000> :/ | |
| [05:38] <shane_> ok | |
| [05:38] <shane_> so i need to remove that and open it up | |
| [05:38] <xbj9000> so, if you remove Tango_theme and then copy the one inside back over, it works | |
| [05:39] <xbj9000> so that it's only one folder deep | |
| [05:39] <xbj9000> I'll have to fix that | |
| [05:40] <shane_> ok | |
| [05:41] <xbj9000> did you get it? | |
| [05:42] <PsynoKhi0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20530/ fun huh? | |
| [05:42] <shane_> not yet | |
| [05:43] <shane_> how do i take away the folder and keep the files | |
| [05:44] <PsynoKhi0> about those h.264 files, you can check with any decently recent AVI from dattebayo.com | |
| [05:44] <xbj9000> you can move the Tango_theme out onto the desktop | |
| [05:45] <xbj9000> then open it, and copy the Tango_theme inside, and paste that back into /frostwire/themes | |
| [05:45] <xbj9000> or you can wait for me to upload the fix | |
| === applegate is now known as watergate | |
| [05:47] <shane_> i got it all i had to do was remove the folder completly | |
| [05:47] <xbj9000> theme is working? | |
| [05:48] <shane_> yah its fine now | |
| [05:48] <shane_> looks good | |
| [05:48] <xbj9000> good | |
| [05:48] <xbj9000> thanks | |
| [05:49] <shane_> PsynoKhi0: whats with the paste ur usb crash | |
| [05:50] <PsynoKhi0> yup | |
| [05:50] <shane_> well i like how it reads thats simple to figure out | |
| === watergate is now known as lincoln | |
| [05:51] <shane_> well i best get some sleep | |
| [05:51] <xbj9000> night | |
| [05:51] <shane_> ty you for you help xbj9000 and i apreciate the theme pack it looks great | |
| [05:51] <xbj9000> no problem | |
| [05:51] <shane_> goodnight all | |
| [05:51] <PsynoKhi0> nite | |
| [05:51] <PsynoKhi0> meh | |
| [05:53] <xbj9000> bah | |
| [05:53] <xbj9000> I forgot my ftp password | |
| [05:53] <xbj9000> it's in my email on a different PC | |
| [05:59] <xbj9000> theme is fixed | |
| [06:04] <xbj9000> I still can't write to floppies | |
| [06:06] <xbj9000> even as root | |
| === applegate is now known as yogi1 | |
| [07:36] <thedeificone> i am running Hardy and have a Intel 945GM Chipset video card, and i am using the new INTEL driver.... i am only getting about 800 FPS and i used 2 get about 1800 on glxgears on another distro... cant even play UT2004... claims direct rendering is working... is this a known problem or ? ..... | |
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| [09:19] <dmseg> anyone need help?? | |
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| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | |
| [11:18] <persi> hello, what do you think are the specs with which xubuntu speed advantage will be unnoticeable and I should install base gnome version instead? | |
| [11:19] <ablomen> persi, even on my quad core system at home with 2gb of ram i find xfce a lot faster then gnome | |
| [11:20] <ablomen> just more responsive (thunar opens a lot faster then nautilus, even rythmbox seems to start up faster) | |
| [11:22] <persi> oops :) thanks, I wonder how it was before 4.3, some guy says XFCE became much slower after it | |
| [11:23] <persi> startup time actually didnt impress me as it wasnt at all faster than XP | |
| [11:25] <ablomen> well but the thing is that windows xp is actually still booting once your logged in | |
| [11:25] <ablomen> when you log in in linux everything is booted | |
| [11:26] <persi> everything besides gui that is, I think it takes just as long to actually show me desktop | |
| [11:26] <ablomen> hmm it does? | |
| [11:27] <ablomen> dunno, at home xubuntu seems faster, and havnt used windows on this pc :) | |
| [12:14] <persi> how much extra disk space do I need approximately if i want to install ubuntu over xubuntu? | |
| [13:34] <jbotscharow> hi all | |
| [13:36] <jbotscharow> I have not received any messages from the xubuntu-users ml for several days. has it been that silent or do i have email issues? | |
| [13:59] <jbotscharow> cody-somerville: r u here? | |
| [13:59] <gloria> how do I get the xubuntu menu showing icons again? | |
| [13:59] <gloria> I'm using 8.04 | |
| [14:01] <jbotscharow> gloria: I'm new to Xubuntu, so I am not real sure, but I think I recall seeing an option in he menu editor prefs | |
| [14:01] <gloria> where? | |
| [14:02] <gloria> I don't see any preferences option | |
| [14:02] <gloria> Xfce4-MenuEditor right? | |
| [14:02] <jbotscharow> give me a minute to look and see if i can find exactly where it is | |
| [14:02] <gloria> omg I found it | |
| [14:02] <gloria> its the option for the button | |
| [14:02] <gloria> thanks | |
| [14:03] <gloria> drove me nuts for longest time | |
| [14:03] <gloria> now to figure out how to get rid of those crap gnome games from menu | |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | |
| === maxamillion is now known as notMax | |
| [15:57] <cheeseboy> i have usb evga tv tuner | |
| [15:58] <cheeseboy> any way i can get it to work? | |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | |
| [16:08] <cheeseboy> hi i have evega in D tube | |
| [16:08] <cheeseboy> any way i can get it to work on ubuntu? | |
| === notMax is now known as maxamillion | |
| [17:16] <jokoon> hello, I have bluetooth integrated on my G4 ibook, switched recently from gnome to xfce, and "browse device" is greyed in the tray menu | |
| [17:16] <jokoon> also how can I deactivate the touchpad in xubuntu ? | |
| [17:19] <lordmaynoth> hey | |
| [17:19] <lordmaynoth> I've got a weird question | |
| [17:20] <jokoon> thats weird | |
| [17:21] <lordmaynoth> ok so when I play games in native resolution (using 8600gts, tried envy drivers) the game keeps playing but its in a window, and I can still see the start bar, but the mouse is frozen even if I alt-tab out | |
| [17:21] <lordmaynoth> anyone else had anything like this happen in hardy | |
| [17:21] <vinnl> lordmaynoth, for which games does that happen? | |
| [17:21] <lordmaynoth> tremulous and saurbraten | |
| [17:21] <lordmaynoth> any fps | |
| [17:22] <lordmaynoth> also if I change the resolution down to 1024 x 768 or less its fine | |
| [17:22] <vinnl> lordmaynoth, is there a place in their settings where you can configure them to be fullscreen? | |
| [17:22] <vinnl> Oh that's odd | |
| [17:22] <lordmaynoth> yeah its making me scratch my head | |
| [17:22] <lordmaynoth> didn't happen in gutsy | |
| [19:06] <Balachmar> Hi, how can I change the screen resolution in xubuntu? | |
| [19:07] <lc2> applications -> settings -> settings manager, display | |
| [19:09] <zoredache> how does one change what browser the update-manager uses? I have epiphany set in the settings/prefered apps... but update-manager is starting firefox | |
| [19:09] <lc2> the update manager runs as root, right | |
| [19:10] <zoredache> parts of it do... but I had not provided my password yet | |
| [19:11] <lc2> oh | |
| [19:11] <lc2> meh, wtf | |
| [19:11] <lc2> maybe it's hard-coded | |
| [19:12] <zoredache> the issue is... I have firefox2 install since several extensions not supported in ff3... Every time I forget and click a link in the update manager ff3 runs and trashes my firefox profile and deletes all my extensions | |
| [19:12] <lc2> oh :( | |
| [19:12] <eca> 17 gigs used on my 80 gig hd, less than 1 gig in my home folder and i dont have that many programs installed. i tried apt-get autoclean, and deleting cached packages with synaptic- i dont think it worked though. what else should i look into? | |
| [19:13] <lc2> look in /tmp | |
| [19:14] <lc2> is this xubuntu? | |
| [19:14] <eca> yes, 5kb in tmp | |
| [19:14] <eca> dev is 1.8 gb | |
| [19:14] <lc2> ! | |
| [19:15] <lc2> okay, that's not right | |
| [19:15] <lc2> dev is (should be) a bunch of special files that don't really exist as such | |
| [19:15] <lc2> mine is 52k | |
| [19:16] <lc2> /dev* | |
| [19:17] <lc2> although, udev afaik isn't really a filesystem as such, either | |
| [19:17] <lc2> so maybe that's irrelevant | |
| [19:17] <eca> lin is 1.1 gb | |
| [19:18] <eca> */lib | |
| [19:18] <lc2> lin? | |
| [19:18] <lc2> oh | |
| [19:18] <lc2> makes sense | |
| [19:18] <eca> proc 1.3 gb | |
| [19:19] <eca> sys 230mb | |
| [19:19] <lc2> proc is a pseudo-filesystem | |
| [19:20] <eca> usr is 1.6, var is 300mb. files dont even add up to 17, but thats what it says in thunar | |
| [19:21] <lc2> unless thunar is counting it wrong | |
| [19:22] <lc2> hm | |
| [19:22] <eca> and partition editor | |
| [19:22] <lc2> heh what | |
| [19:23] <eca> partion editor says 17 gb too | |
| [19:23] <eca> used | |
| [19:23] <zoredache> what is the xfce equivalent of gnome-open? | |
| [19:23] <lc2> hmmm | |
| [19:24] <zoredache> eca: try running this perhaps - du --max-depth=1 -h / | |
| [19:25] <eca> 2.7g | |
| [19:26] <eca> geuss thats what its supposed to say | |
| [19:26] <zoredache> eca: btw have you deleted some large files (perhaps logfiles) without restarting the service that was using them? | |
| [19:26] <eca> probably | |
| [19:27] <eca> i killed a bunch of services | |
| [19:27] <eca> ith sys-conf | |
| [19:27] <eca> with | |
| [19:27] <zoredache> if a program has a file open, and you delete the file the blocks will still be allocated until the file handle is closed... You might try rebooting | |
| [19:28] <eca> ive rebooted a bunch | |
| [19:29] <eca> gotta go to work bbl | |
| [19:34] <zoredache> hrm.... update-manager seems to be using gnome-open instead of exo-open | |
| [19:38] <Balachmar> ok, I seem to have f***ed up my resolution, and now I cand read the text anymore | |
| [19:38] <Balachmar> Can I select a resolution from the commandline? | |
| [19:40] <Balachmar> ok, now the resolution is fine, but the menu is still so small that I cannot read it... | |
| === seanw is now known as sean | |
| === sean is now known as seanw | |
| [21:28] <wiseman> I'm back | |
| [21:28] <wiseman> shoop woop | |
| [21:28] <wiseman> Hey, having more issues here, anyone care to lend some experience? | |
| [22:28] <cppmonkey> Im running 8.04, Im just using it as a glorified router with PXE, I only have 2GB to play with as its a flash card. What apps can I remove without breaking the gui/ | |
| [22:29] <cppmonkey> Brains2 | |
| === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale | |