| === Ben1 is now known as BenC | |
| [09:50] <BenC> I'm trying to think of a good reason why we have a linux-source-2.6.x.deb package, but I'm having a hard time justifying it | |
| [09:52] <torkel> because people are used to it? | |
| [10:07] <BenC> used to it doesn't mean it's worth having :) | |
| [10:07] <BenC> most people assume they can use it to build the same packages we do, and that's just incorrect | |
| [10:08] <BenC> what most people want is "apt-get source linux" not "sudo apt-get install linux-source" | |
| [12:03] * BenC fires off the 2.6.26-1.1 upload | |
| [12:05] <BenC> rtg: what was that you talk me last night, that adam said would pull in the last version? | |
| [12:05] <rtg> hang on... | |
| [12:05] <BenC> *told | |
| [12:06] <rtg> an option to dpkg-buildpkg, e.g., '-v2.6.24-18.36' | |
| [12:07] <BenC> Oh, I already knew about that | |
| [12:08] <BenC> rtg: that just sets the .changes file to include all changelog entries later than that version | |
| [12:09] <BenC> as opposed to just the current upload | |
| [12:31] <fabbione> BenC: are you killing linux-ubuntu-modules? | |
| [12:32] <fabbione> BenC: (for intrepid i mean) | |
| [13:00] <BenC> fabbione: yeah | |
| [13:00] <fabbione> ok | |
| [13:01] <fabbione> so all external modules are back into main tree? | |
| [13:06] <BenC> fabbione: yeah, pretty much | |
| [13:13] <fabbione> BenC: it's kind of astonishing that no matter what, everything always collapse again. | |
| [13:13] <fabbione> BenC: specially when we discussed that in regards of API/ABI breakage from lum | |
| [13:13] <fabbione> and i suggested to go back | |
| [13:29] <BenC> I never said going back wasn't possible | |
| [13:29] <BenC> just that we couldn't do it in hardy | |
| [13:29] <fabbione> nah there was time for hardy... | |
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| [13:29] <BenC> nah, there wasn't :) | |
| [13:30] <BenC> time to do it, sure, but some one with that time, that's a different story | |
| [13:30] <fabbione> there was.. you are just too slow :P | |
| [13:30] <fabbione> that's why you have 24h/day and weekends | |
| [13:30] <fabbione> weekends are boring without hacking :) | |
| [13:31] <BenC> lol, my weekends aren't boring, but I definitely don't spend them hacking | |
| [13:31] <BenC> you're married, your don't have time either :P | |
| [13:33] <fabbione> ahhaha | |
| [13:34] <torkel> BenC: married and with small kids you have nights to hack on :-) | |
| [13:35] <fabbione> torkel: no you don't.. kids keep you busy | |
| [13:40] <tjaalton> especially at night.. | |
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| [21:57] <mnem0> what is the difference between linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-18-386 and linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-18-generic ?? | |
| === mnem0 is now known as mnemo | |
| [22:06] <amitk> mnemo: the flavour. -386 is for older machines, -generic for 686+ machines | |
| [22:07] <mnemo> so I really want the latter then, for a modern machine?? | |
| [22:10] <amitk> mnemo: depends on what kernel you have installed. 'apt-get install linux-image-generic' ought to take care of all dependencies, really | |
| [22:11] <mnemo> but how do I choose kernel between -i386 and -generic? | |
| [22:11] <amitk> mnemo: what is the output of 'cat /proc/version_signature'? | |
| [22:12] <mnemo> it's currently Ubuntu 2.6.24-18.32-386 | |
| [22:13] <mnemo> but I think I got both installed in grub for some reason | |
| [22:13] <mnemo> and i'm more interested in general what is the difference between -i386 and -generic so I know which one to use in the future etc | |
| [22:14] <amitk> mnemo: if your processor is something released in the last 2-3 years, it is a safe bet to go with -generic. | |
| [22:15] <mnemo> yea I know -generic boots and works fine when I select it from grub | |
| [22:15] <mnemo> but is -generic faster because it's optimized for 686 or something like that? | |
| [22:18] <amitk> mnemo: yes. It will use optimizations, new instructions, etc. for newer processors. | |
| [22:18] <mnemo> okay cool | |
| [22:18] <mnemo> thanks for explaining it to me | |
| [22:19] <amitk> np | |
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| [23:21] <bmm> Hi everybody. For starters, thanks for your work on the kernel. I'm desperately waiting for 2.6.25+ because of lan driver fixes, so I was looking around at the launchpad pages and wanted to mention two things: | |
| [23:22] <bmm> 2.6.26 ia64 for intrepid has run and failed to build because of a missing: debian/rules.d/ia64.mk | |
| [23:22] <bmm> (which seems like a small mistake?) | |
| [23:23] <bmm> The kernel-team contact information link to the wiki doesn't work, see https://launchpad.net/~kernel-team on the right lower side. | |
| [23:23] <bmm> So, that's all I wanted to mention. Keep up the good work and looking forward to the new versions. | |
| [23:24] <bmm> Thanks for reading! | |
| [23:30] <mrec__> hi anyone awake? | |
| [23:30] <mrec__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/204578 | |
| [23:31] <mrec__> it would be great if someone could integrate the driver from mcentral.de into ubuntu | |