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[00:07] <asac> fta: what do i want? |
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[00:08] <fta> no template, but a hack with $0 |
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[00:08] <asac> fta: you certainly have found all those mail tweaks in bugzilla? |
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[00:08] <fta> it's just a patch that has been committed today, written by [reed] :) |
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[00:09] <asac> fta: The CC field changes |
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[00:09] <asac> doesnt work? |
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[00:09] <fta> eh? |
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[00:09] <[reed]> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email |
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[00:10] <fta> hhmm, thanks |
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[00:10] <asac> fta: quite easy to find imo: preferences -> email preferences |
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[00:13] <fta> good. done |
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[00:13] <fta> g++ -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-long-long -pedantic -g -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Os -freorder-blocks -fno-reorder-functions -fexceptions -Wno-unknown-pragmas -fPIC -shared -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,-h,libxpcomclucene.so -o libxpcomclucene.so flockLucene.o flockLuceneImp |
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[00:13] <fta> l.o flockLuceneThread.o flockLuceneModule.o -lpthread -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-rpath-link,../../../../dist/bin ../../../../dist/lib/libxpcomglue_s.a -L../../../../dist/bin -lxpcom -L/usr/lib -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl /usr/lib/libclucene.a -Wl,--version-script -Wl,../../../../build/unix/gnu-ld-scripts/components-version-script -Wl,-Bsymbolic -ldl -lm |
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[00:13] <fta> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libclucene.a(FSDirectory.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
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[00:13] <fta> /usr/lib/libclucene.a: could not read symbols: Bad value |
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[00:13] <fta> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
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[00:13] <fta> make[8]: *** [libxpcomclucene.so] Error 1 |
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[00:13] <fta> damn amd64 |
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[00:39] <asac> fta: where is libclucene from? |
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[00:39] <asac> is that packaged? |
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[00:39] <fta> yzq |
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[00:39] <fta> yes |
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[00:40] <asac> why didn't i find it yet? |
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[00:40] <fta> --with-clucene-prefix=/usr and libclucene-dev |
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[00:40] <asac> i searched for lucense for C multiple times |
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[00:40] <asac> stupid me |
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[00:41] <asac> c++ ... ok |
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[01:10] <Hawkskater> hello |
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[01:12] <Hawkskater> so, hows firefox 3 coming? |
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[01:14] <asac> with v(MAX) |
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[01:14] <asac> :-P |
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[01:18] <asac> Hawkskater: are you running RC1 from hardy-proposed? |
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[01:18] <Hawkskater> no, im running 3 beta 5, i havent gotten around to installing the rc |
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[01:20] <asac> its simple. add hardy-proposed or the mozillateam PPA sources to sources.list |
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[01:20] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive |
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[01:20] <fta> asac, hardy/libclucene is broken: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15025765/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.flock_2.0%7Ea1%7Esvn20080603r19205-0ubuntu1%7Efta4%7Ehardy_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz |
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[01:20] <asac> but hardy-propopsed is more up to date |
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[01:20] <Hawkskater> asac thanks |
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[01:21] <asac> fta: do they ship any .o files by accident? |
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[01:22] <fta> who ? clucene or flock ? |
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[01:22] <asac> flock |
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[01:23] <fta> looking |
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[01:23] <fta> nope |
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[01:28] <fta> debian bug 460328 |
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[01:28] <ubottu> Debian bug 460328 in libclucene0 "x86_64 segfault bug reintroduced" [Unknown,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/460328 |
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[01:29] <Hawkskater> asac |
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[01:44] <asac> Hawkskater: yes. |
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[01:44] <asac> RC is better |
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[01:44] <Hawkskater> any great new features? |
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[01:45] <asac> but b5 wasnt really bad either. but as always there is no objective measure here what is really good |
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[01:45] <asac> Hawkskater: no ... feature work was done before beta even ;) |
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[01:45] <asac> polishing mostly |
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[01:45] <Hawkskater> oh, i might want to update |
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[09:15] <MechtiIde> hello and good morning, I want to configure a calender/mail server using for less then ten users. Which software do you suggest and where can I find documentation to configure server _and_ client |
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[09:15] <MechtiIde> the client should be Thunderbird/lightning |
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[09:16] <asac> MechtiIde: you can configure a webdav server |
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[09:16] <asac> that should be enough |
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[09:16] <asac> for calendaring |
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[09:16] <asac> for mail you can used something independent |
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[09:16] <asac> whatever you prefer |
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[09:16] <asac> i assume you want an imap server |
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[09:17] <MechtiIde> asac, where do I find a HowTo or something similar? |
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[09:17] <asac> there are a bunch with different targetted audienced ... i cannot give a preference for servers |
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[09:17] <asac> MechtiIde: google "setup webdav apache" |
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[09:17] <asac> apt-cache search imap server |
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[09:18] <MechtiIde> and a WebDav dokumentation for User not for developer |
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[09:18] <asac> if you have a specific imap server google for "setup XXXSERVER ubuntu" |
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[09:18] <asac> MechtiIde: google like above |
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[09:19] <MechtiIde> thanks for the right words to look for |
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[09:21] <asac> MechtiIde: you can also seay "setup webdav apache ubuntu" |
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[09:21] <asac> :) |
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[09:21] <asac> thats the second hit: http://www.digital-arcanist.com/sanctum/article.php?story=20070427101250622 |
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[09:22] <asac> our wiki could deserve a page for WebDAV setup ... maybe summarize your experiences there for other users |
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[09:22] <asac> MechtiIde: ^^ |
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[09:23] <MechtiIde> I will describe it |
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[09:23] <MechtiIde> also for Debian/Lenny |
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[09:27] <armin76> asac: bumb! |
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[09:28] <asac> dump |
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[09:28] <armin76> bumb rc2! |
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[09:29] <asac> armin76: we already are far ahead ... RC2 is for the weak |
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[09:30] <armin76> lol |
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[09:33] <asac> given that gentoo is not really the place to find the weak ... and given that you dont distribute with official marks ... how about always tracking trunnk in gentoo :) |
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[09:33] <asac> that would surely give you credits on fta side ;) |
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[09:34] <armin76> haha |
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[09:34] <armin76> no way :P |
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[09:34] <asac> bah, i stand corrected: gentoo is a place for the weak ;) |
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[09:34] <armin76> i do other stuff more interesting than mozilla :P |
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[09:34] <asac> compiling X? |
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[09:34] <asac> :-D |
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[09:34] <asac> and OOO |
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[09:34] <asac> to test latest compiler tweaks |
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[09:35] <armin76> lol |
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[09:35] <asac> -O666 -Wl,-DTHE_NUMBER_OF_THE_BEAST |
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[09:35] <armin76> no, i do arch testing, something ubuntu and debian doesn't do :P |
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[09:35] <asac> yeah |
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[09:35] <asac> much appreciated |
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[09:35] <asac> debian has some QA though |
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[09:35] <asac> just depends on wheteher ther are users at all for lets say s390 desktop ;) |
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[09:36] <armin76> and we aren't stuck with old kernels :P |
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[09:37] <asac> are we? |
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[09:37] <asac> is debian? |
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[09:37] <asac> did debian enter base freeze yet? |
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[09:37] <armin76> Linux i2 2.6.26-rc4 #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:43:22 UTC 2008 ia64 31 GenuineIntel GNU/Linux *g* |
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[09:37] <armin76> no idea |
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[09:39] <asac> thats for the weak for sure ;) ... you should be unning 2.7.0 |
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[09:39] <asac> hah, outdated ... latest is 2.6.26-rc5 |
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[09:40] <armin76> its a dev box, i don't reboot it everyday :P |
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[09:40] <asac> haha |
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[09:41] <armin76> but you don't have one! do you? |
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[09:41] <armin76> fail! |
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[09:43] <asac> 2.7? sure ... i am a strong guy and spoof the version umber just to impress the world |
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[09:48] <armin76> i mean a dev box :P |
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[09:48] <armin76> gtg |
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[09:49] <fta> my dev box is my desktop at home. an all-HEAD desktop :) |
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[09:50] <asac> fta: can you please to a maintainence change for the current intrepid mozilla-devscripts? |
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[09:50] <asac> all those things like mercurila should not be depends, but recommends |
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[09:50] <asac> let me know if you can do it ... otherwise ill fork out the release and do it as its now blocking intrepid biulds |
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[09:51] <asac> fta: do you track linux HEAD too? |
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[09:51] <asac> which branch? -mm ? |
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[09:52] <fta> not anymore, used to for years |
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[09:52] <asac> fta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15053195/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.midbrowser_0.3.0rc1a-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz |
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[09:53] <asac> midbrowser fails because of devscripts |
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[09:53] <asac> mercurial should be available though ... not sure. but better drop the depends and make them recommends |
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[09:53] <asac> lower the risk of pulling something broken ;) |
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[09:54] <asac> fta: mercurial is in universe |
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[09:54] <fta> done |
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[09:56] <asac> fta: which branch is the stable update branch? |
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[09:56] <asac> i cant upload 0.09 ... i need a spin of for 0.08 |
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[09:56] <fta> even for intrepid ? |
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[09:56] <asac> yes |
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[09:56] <fta> why ? |
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[09:57] <asac> i need a fix now ... cant risk that something breaks |
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[09:58] <fta> well, the only change is mozclient, it's not automatically used by packages |
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[09:58] <asac> dont bother ... ill do it |
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[09:59] <fta> i've closed 0.09 already |
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[09:59] <asac> thats not a problem |
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[10:00] <fta> it is if you have no intention to push it |
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[10:05] <asac> ok i have done it ... look if you are happy like it is |
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[10:06] <fta> where ? |
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[10:09] <fta> well, 0.09 is not pushed so there's no point in starting 0.09.1, i'd better unclose 0.09 for now |
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[10:09] <fta> I need to run, i'll think about it |
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[10:09] <asac> fta: i dont think its a problem. you can close 0.09.1 ... didnt want to unclose |
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[10:09] <asac> but do as you wish |
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[10:11] <asac> ok i creatd .hardy branch ... will mark main branch as development and that as mature |
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[10:12] <asac> fta: if you undo the release, please do a full bzr merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/mozilla-devscripts.intrepid.0.08.1 |
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[10:12] <asac> so we can mark that branch as merged without loosing the ploaded commit |
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[10:13] <asac> once midbrowser is build we can upload 0.09 :) |
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[10:13] <asac> or 0.09.1 |
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[10:45] <armin76> quick |
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[10:49] <asac> [reed]: so what kind of mechanism should we use in bugzilla to track ubuntu forwarded bugs? |
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[10:50] <asac> did we say keyword? ... or did we say "CC virtual user" ? |
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[10:50] <asac> did we come up with other options? |
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[10:55] <asac> bug 147119 |
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[10:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 147119 in network-manager "network manager gives couldn't activate dialup service warning" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147119 |
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[10:58] <armin76> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052912 Firefox/3.0 <- interesting |
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[10:58] <armin76> rc2 identifies itself as 3.0 |
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[10:58] <asac> armin76: rc1 too for me, no? |
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[10:58] <asac> at least in about ;) |
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[10:59] <armin76> no idea |
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[10:59] * armin76 checks |
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[11:01] <armin76> yup, you're right |
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[11:01] <armin76> i didn't notice :D |
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[11:02] <asac> mozilla releases _real_ RCs ;) |
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[11:02] <asac> which isnt that bad |
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[11:06] <gnomefreak> this is odd |
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[11:06] <gnomefreak> can anyone see me? |
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[11:06] <gnomefreak> it seems as if im still syncing |
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[11:07] <fta2> yes |
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[11:08] <gnomefreak> fta2: thanks |
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[11:08] <gnomefreak> it seems as if the channels are syncing 5 at a time |
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[11:08] <armin76> i can't |
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[11:09] <gnomefreak> did anyone open a bug on RC2 for the release? |
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[11:09] <gnomefreak> i havent checked mail to see when it will release yet |
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[11:10] <fta2> rsn |
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[11:10] <gnomefreak> rsn? |
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[11:10] <armin76> haha |
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[11:11] <armin76> gnomefreak: ubuntu already has 3.0 final :) |
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[11:11] <gnomefreak> armin76: they ended up releasing RC1 as final? |
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[11:11] <armin76> yeah! bad ubuntu *g* |
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[11:11] <armin76> j/k |
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[11:11] <gnomefreak> armin76: there was a bug or 2 blocking |
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[11:12] <gnomefreak> armin76: are you just looking at the FF title bar or did you hear this from mozilla |
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[11:13] <armin76> woot? |
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[11:13] <armin76> rc2 is already released |
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[11:13] <gnomefreak> armin76: when was it released? yesterday? |
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[11:13] <armin76> or today |
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[11:13] <armin76> read mozilla.com :P |
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[11:13] <armin76> err |
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[11:14] <armin76> .org |
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[11:14] <gnomefreak> armin76: havent gotten that far yet and i will have it in email anyway |
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[11:15] <gnomefreak> who has pine + thunderbird + IMAP? |
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[11:15] <armin76> This entry was posted by beltzner on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 at 3:23 pm |
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[11:15] * gnomefreak didnt think thunderbird read files from you ~/SHOME yet include them in TB folders |
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[11:16] <gnomefreak> seems to me RC2 is borked |
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[11:16] <armin76> lol |
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[11:17] <gnomefreak> This is bugging the hell outta me and I can't find a way to roll back |
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[11:17] <gnomefreak> to RC1. Any idea? |
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[11:18] <gnomefreak> gonna ask if its google tool bar causing that :) if i ever get TB to help me out |
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[11:26] <asac> gnomefreak: in what way is RC2 borked? |
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[11:26] <asac> important to figure out instead of rolling back |
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[11:26] <gnomefreak> asac: its looking like extensions the more i read it |
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[11:26] <gnomefreak> i posted comment asking about GTB |
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[11:26] <asac> GTB? |
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[11:26] <gnomefreak> GooleToolBar |
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[11:27] <asac> ah |
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[11:27] <asac> does that work at all? |
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[11:27] <gnomefreak> asac: does thunberbird look for folders/mail from hard driver? like make folder in pine adn Tb will pick it up |
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[11:28] <gnomefreak> asac: AFAIK its still broken |
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[11:28] <gnomefreak> las i heard Google only updated API for certain sites like gmail |
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[11:28] <asac> fta2: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15056277/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.midbrowser_0.3.0rc1a-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz |
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[11:28] <asac> still fails |
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[11:30] <gnomefreak> asac: see bug 122529 as i have neverheard of TB looking in ~/Mail for folders nor mail |
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[11:30] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 122529 in mozilla-thunderbird "Non-Thunderbird IMAP folders not visible to Thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122529 |
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[11:30] <gnomefreak> it was closed at one time but user reopened it |
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[11:30] <gnomefreak> be back smoke |
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[11:31] <asac> well ... you can use movemail |
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[11:31] <asac> then you can probalby specify that as the location |
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[11:32] <asac> maybe you can even set a custom location for Mail for certain accountgs |
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[11:32] <asac> fta2: i wonder if builds now require recommends too |
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[11:32] <asac> cant see which version was pulled in ... will retry in an hour |
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[12:11] <gnomefreak> is it possible to set TB2 to offline mode for incoming and online for outgoing? yes it saounds silly but very helpfull when you have ~2000 emails and more just keep coming in |
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[12:12] <asac> dont think so |
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[12:12] <asac> why? |
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[12:13] <asac> hmm |
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[12:13] <asac> you say a "stop the flood button" ? |
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[12:13] <gnomefreak> too many coming in while im working on sending email so it would same me the time to keep scrolling |
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[12:13] <gnomefreak> asac: yes :) |
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[12:13] <asac> hmm |
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[12:14] <gnomefreak> and what are the little orange "stars" or "circle" |
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[12:14] <asac> intersting approach ;) |
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[12:14] <gnomefreak> next to new mail |
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[12:14] <asac> why is that a problem? |
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[12:14] <asac> thunderbird should keep the currently selected mail active |
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[12:14] <gnomefreak> asac: time consumming to keep reading the email (its almost like) im looping without a breaking point |
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[12:16] <gnomefreak> it does but since i work from top to bottom of the list of mails and only comment on some the rest stay marked as unread until im done just incase i missed something |
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[12:18] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe sort by date? |
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[12:18] <asac> not by thread? |
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[12:18] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm |
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[12:19] <gnomefreak> i guess ill have to change how they are viewed |
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[12:19] <asac> i think you are right |
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[12:19] <asac> what one would want is going through mails by date, but still viewing thread |
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[12:19] <asac> e.g. you could manually go up and down single steps with cursor |
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[12:19] <asac> but the next mail button would go to next mail by date |
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[12:20] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe thats the case? |
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[12:20] <asac> you can hit 'j' to get to next mail |
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[12:24] <gnomefreak> yeh that about right. I just hate the fact that no matter what view its not helpful with that many emails. i wonder if someone has a extension for something like that :) |
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[12:25] * gnomefreak has an idea |
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[12:25] <gnomefreak> have all my outgoing comments ready to send than turn tb back online and send them :) |
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[13:05] <gnomefreak> asac: got another firefox/thunderbird should save files "****" bug 175286 |
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[13:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 175286 in mozilla-firefox "Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175286 |
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[13:08] <asac> gnomefreak: thats fixed in hardy |
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[13:08] <asac> look at a changelog to infd the dupe |
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[13:08] <gnomefreak> k |
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[13:08] <gnomefreak> in FF3 or 2? |
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[13:12] <gnomefreak> asac: im not seeing it https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0 nor in firefox source package |
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[13:13] <asac> gnomefreak: no thats fixed in thunderb |
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[13:13] <asac> irdf |
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[13:13] <asac> firefox 3 has it fixed |
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[13:13] <asac> ffox 2 wontfix |
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[13:16] <gnomefreak> asac: firefox-3 fix was ours or upstreams? |
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[13:17] <gnomefreak> fucking thunderbird feature is broken cant send unsent mails after turning it back online |
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[13:18] <asac> gnomefreak: fffox 3 == fixed upstream |
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[13:18] <asac> tbird 2 == fixed here |
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[13:18] <asac> ffox 2 == wontfix |
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[13:18] <gnomefreak> thanks |
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[13:21] <gnomefreak> i cant send mail in tb :( |
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[13:21] <gnomefreak> thats alot of replys that wont get sent |
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[13:24] <gnomefreak> bug 192888 |
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[13:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents when using libflashsupport" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888 |
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[13:27] <asac> only 50 bugmails in fox3 folder left : |
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[13:27] <asac> ) |
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[13:29] <asac> [reed]: you think bug 236610 aspect was already discussed or even fixed? |
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[13:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 236610 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox 'bad certificate' warning blocks navigation with small secured frames" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236610 |
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[13:29] <asac> e.g. invalid cert in an iframe where the user cannot reach the "add exception ..." button? |
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[13:39] <asac> gnomefreak: can you confirm bug 236901 |
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[13:39] <asac> ? |
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[13:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 236901 in firefox-3.0 "privacy settings not followed when closing firefox by the 'file' menu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236901 |
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[13:39] <asac> let me know |
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[13:39] <gnomefreak> k |
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[13:39] <gnomefreak> im thinking gmail has issues today |
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[13:42] <gnomefreak> file > close works fine asked me to delete personal info and loaded the bug page in tab |
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[13:43] <gnomefreak> andd it works fine using the X in upper right hand corner. I DONT SEE A RED X anywhere. maybe its a theme hes using? |
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[13:45] * asac lunch |
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[13:45] <gnomefreak> commented on bug |
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[13:47] * gnomefreak heading to drs. appointment not sure how long i will be gone but once noon gets here <in about 3hours and 15 minutes |
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[14:08] <armin76> asac: 233610 sucks, tbh :P |
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[14:08] <armin76> we'll miss the dialogs :( |
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[14:49] <asac> bug 233610 |
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[14:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 233610 in elisa "Text doesn't fit into the popup area" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233610 |
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[14:49] <asac> mozilla bug 233610 |
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[14:49] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 233610 in Bugzilla-General "Modem Connection can not be deactivated" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233610 |
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[14:49] <asac> armin76: not sure what you mean |
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[14:50] <armin76> asac: 236610 :P |
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[14:52] <asac> armin76: gentoo thing? |
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[14:52] <armin76> bug 236610 |
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[14:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 236610 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox 'bad certificate' warning blocks navigation with small secured frames" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236610 |
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[15:04] <asac> bug folder all read |
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[15:25] <asac> 400 to go in ffox 2 folder :( |
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[17:51] * Admiral_laptop is smooth... |
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[17:51] <Admiral_laptop> I deleted everything in /usr/bin that I needed |
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[17:52] <Admiral_laptop> basically the whole core-utils package.. |
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[17:52] <Admiral_laptop> time to go fix it.. |
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[17:52] <Admiral_laptop> gah, wrong channel. |
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[17:56] <armin76> fail |
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[18:15] <asac> ^^ was that ment for this channel :) ? |
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[18:15] <asac> oh he already noticed |
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[18:15] <asac> i should work on screens that have more than 10 lines ;) |
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[19:25] <campd> asac: what do you guys do with crash reporting/breakpad? |
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[19:40] <asac> campd: multiple options. |
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[19:40] <asac> campd: 1. send all stacktraces we currently have somewhere |
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[19:41] <asac> campd: 2. in future enable crashreporter and arrange with you so that you can properly analyze those crashes |
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[19:41] <asac> e.g. work how to get dbg symbols to you and so on |
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[19:43] <asac> campd: would you be willing to help us get things sorted on your side? |
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[19:46] <campd> I can find the right people to talk to :) |
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[19:46] <campd> do you just disable the crash reporter for now? |
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[19:46] <asac> campd: for now its disabled. we have our own distro solution, e.g. we get all crashes reported as bugs |
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[19:46] <campd> yeah |
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[19:46] <campd> cool, thanks |
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[19:47] <asac> but i want to change that ;) ... tell me what we need to do before we can able crashporter |
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[19:47] <asac> np |
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[19:51] <campd> asac: so basically what you'd need to do is send us symbols, and point the crash reporter at our crash reporting server |
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[19:52] <campd> asac: Ted Mielczarek can give you more detail about what you'd need to do |
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[19:52] <asac> campd: true. but what symbols ... how do you select the right ones? you probably need the symbols for all depends as well |
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[19:53] <campd> either ted.mielczarek@gmail.com or you can ask on dev-platform |
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[19:53] <asac> campd: yeah, i know him. i wanted to talk with him about it once in #breakpad, but then things got in between |
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[19:54] <asac> campd: whats your mozilla.com address? campd@moz.. ? |
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[19:54] <campd> dcamp@ |
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[19:56] <campd> asac: is the data generated by your crash reporter available publically anywhere? |
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[19:57] <asac> campd: its all in bugs. |
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[19:57] <asac> every crash is one bug. |
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[19:57] <campd> ah |
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[19:57] <asac> i can show you one |
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[19:58] <asac> there is a text file attachment that has the thread stack trace |
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[19:58] <campd> how is dup management handled? |
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[19:58] <asac> campd: if you can use those to inject them in your database i could arrange to send you all files in a batch |
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[19:58] <campd> I dunno how that'd work |
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[19:58] <asac> campd: we have a database running on the server that tries to match them. doesnt work that great for mozillas |
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[19:58] <asac> but in general it works |
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[19:59] <asac> still nothing as streamlined as breakpad |
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[19:59] <campd> cool |
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[19:59] <asac> campd: bug 188540 |
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[19:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 188540 in firefox-3.0 "firefox-3.0 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188540 |
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[20:08] <asac> campd: ok i sent a starter mail to you and ted. |
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[20:12] <campd> asac: cool, thanks |
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[20:13] <asac> probably a bit confusing without context. hope that is ok for a start |
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[20:13] <campd> looks fine to me |
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[20:20] <asac> jcastro: thanks received the mail from sonbird folks and will answer that |
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[20:20] <asac> by tomorrow the answers should be there |
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[20:25] <asac> Jazzva: hey |
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[20:26] <Jazzva> asac: Here I am... |
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[20:26] <asac> Jazzva: howdy? |
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[20:27] <Jazzva> asac: Pretty good ... You? :) |
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[20:27] <asac> same same |
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[20:27] <asac> ;) |
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[20:27] <asac> Jazzva: how are your merges going for this cycle? |
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[20:27] <asac> wanna get you in ubuntu-dev ;) |
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[20:27] <Jazzva> asac: Not so good... have been lazy |
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[20:27] * Jazzva is ashamed |
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[20:27] <asac> hehe |
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[20:28] <Jazzva> asac: So far: liferea, ksimus, and... lemme check |
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[20:28] <asac> how can i motivate you? |
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[20:28] <asac> Jazzva: did i upload liferea yet? |
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[20:28] <asac> otherwise give me link ... ill do that now |
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[20:28] <Jazzva> asac: Nope :). |
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[20:28] <Jazzva> Ok, wait a second |
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[20:28] <Jazzva> asac: I have also been helping norsetto with gnome-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer :) |
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[20:29] <asac> Jazzva: yeah ... i know. he asked me to sponsor them to debian |
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[20:29] <asac> which ill do |
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[20:29] <Jazzva> asac: liferea is bug 228827 |
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[20:29] <asac> at least i plan to |
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[20:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 228827 in liferea "Please merge liferea-1.4.15-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228827 |
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[20:29] <Jazzva> And tracker. That's it so far... |
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[20:30] <asac> Jazzva: there is still no full debdiff :/ |
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[20:30] <asac> thought you said you attached that? |
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[20:30] <Jazzva> asac: Well, I think that should be the one without po |
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[20:31] <Jazzva> Every time I asked about po changes, I was told to remove them from the final debdiff... |
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[20:31] <Jazzva> Let me see on ubuntu-motu. |
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[20:33] <armin76> asac: what about me! :P |
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[20:33] <Jazzva> asac: I'll try to find some merge to do it tonight. :) |
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[20:34] <asac> armin76: you? ... i thought you ----><---- that close from getting banned on all public irc networks:-P ... now you want to be a ubuntu-dev? |
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[20:34] <asac> hehe |
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[20:35] <armin76> haha |
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[20:35] <armin76> why would i get banned? :P |
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[20:36] <Jazzva> asac: There is the comment on #ubuntu-motu... Let me just check the changelog :). If there is no mention of those rare cases, I think the debdiff without-po is the final one... |
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[20:37] <asac> Jazzva: ok i am building and uploading |
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[20:37] <asac> i dont mind. |
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[20:37] <asac> just remember to follow up in case liferea gets regressions :) |
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[20:38] <Jazzva> Ok... I haven't seen any while I was messing around with it. |
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[20:39] <Jazzva> asac: How many votes would I need for ubuntu-dev? |
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[20:44] <asac> Jazzva: just consent i think. there is no absolute number |
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[20:44] <asac> Jazzva: if you have a few that would be good ... if you have noone against you thats even better ;) |
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[20:45] <asac> Jazzva: updating my subscriptions doesnt work |
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[20:45] <asac> i get (-) signs next to the subscription |
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[20:45] <Jazzva> asac: Well, you said you would give one. pochu mentioned he would be willing to say he was happy with those two merges, but that he doubts it wouldn't mind. And I might ask norsetto, if he would support me. I don't know if anyone else remembers me |
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[20:45] <Jazzva> asac: lemme run it |
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[20:47] <asac> hmm hostname could not be found |
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[20:47] <asac> whats gong on |
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[20:48] <Jazzva> asac: It works here... updates correctly |
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[20:48] <Jazzva> Dunno what's wrong |
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[20:49] <Jazzva> I'll test the debdiff again :/ |
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[20:49] <asac> yeah ... let me check |
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[20:49] <asac> i have a wierd feeling |
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[20:49] <asac> Jazzva: are you using xulrunner 1.9 rc1? |
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[20:50] <Jazzva> Yes |
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[20:50] <Jazzva> 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 |
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[20:50] <Jazzva> That one |
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[20:50] <asac> works? |
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[20:50] <Jazzva> Let me build with the debdiff... |
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[20:50] <Jazzva> Just to see if everything is ok. |
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[20:51] <Jazzva> But with the deb I made, everything works. Updates the feeds. |
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[20:51] <asac> Jazzva: ok works here :-P |
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[20:51] <asac> proxy bustage |
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[20:51] <Jazzva> asac: Phew :) |
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[20:51] <asac> most likely in combination with the mobile xulrunner build i am using |
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[20:51] <asac> which has a patch to auto sync things from gconf |
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[20:51] <asac> and i tested with proxy yesterday :) |
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[20:52] <Jazzva> Ah... I see. |
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[20:52] <Jazzva> So, I haven't messed up (...yet)? :) |
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[20:54] <asac> Jazzva: ok. i think thats great |
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[20:54] <Jazzva> asac: ...regarding the votes. I don't know if anyone would be against me. Nobody complained to me directly. (which doesn't mean that nobody wont on voting) |
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[20:54] <Jazzva> *won't |
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[20:56] <asac> hehe |
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[20:56] <asac> sure |
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[20:56] <asac> i doubt there will be someone against you |
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[20:56] <asac> Jazzva: do we do carry a diff to debian that moves things to quilt? |
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[20:58] <Jazzva> asac: We switched to quilt, because Debian did that. And then I just remade the Ubuntu patches, to be for quilt |
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[20:58] <Jazzva> So, I suppose we don't... |
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[21:00] <asac> Jazzva: ok uploading |
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[21:01] <Jazzva> asac: Thanks :) |
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[21:01] <asac> thanks |
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[21:01] <asac> done |
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[21:01] <asac> Jazzva: have you tried to enable webkit? |
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[21:02] <Jazzva> asac: I didn't know we provide webkit :/. Now I see we do... I haven't tried that. |
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[21:02] <asac> Jazzva: would be a high profile task :) |
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[21:03] <asac> if that works well we have to move webkit to main i guess and doing that will cause some visibility for you ;) |
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[21:03] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, I'll try... But don't expect I'll succeed :) |
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[21:03] <asac> Jazzva: na ... should work |
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[21:03] <asac> maybe you need to update webkit to latest from debian |
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[21:03] <asac> but why now |
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[21:03] <Jazzva> Actually, I'll try it right now :) |
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[21:03] <asac> not |
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[21:26] <Jazzva> asac: Test building liferea with webkit ... so far no breakages. |
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[21:27] <Jazzva> And now it's compiling source files... |
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[21:32] <asac> bug 38131 |
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[21:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 38131 in firefox "Firefox causes massive Xorg CPU usage" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38131 |
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[21:34] <asac> bug #198453 |
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[21:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 198453 in pulseaudio "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198453 |
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[21:38] <Jazzva> asac: Any way how can I check if liferea uses webkit? |
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[21:38] <Jazzva> asac: Oh, there is the message in the terminal :) |
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[21:38] <asac> Jazzva: ldd /usr/bin/liferea |
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[21:39] <asac> or any binary it distributes |
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[21:39] <asac> hehe |
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[21:39] <Jazzva> Note: WebKit HTML rendering support is experimental and |
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[21:39] <Jazzva> I suppose it is with webkit :) |
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[21:39] <asac> does it work good? |
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[21:39] <Jazzva> Let me test it a bit... Adding a feed, removing a feed, updating, etc... :) |
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[21:41] <Jazzva> asac: Can you check the post in Planet Ubuntu, published today at 12:59PM.. The name of the blog/poster is not displayed correctly, but with boxes with utf character code in them. |
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[21:45] <asac> only have a post at 12.49 |
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[21:45] <asac> err, most recent is 22:10 |
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[21:45] <asac> my history doesnt get that far |
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[21:45] <asac> i wiped my .liferea-1.4 dir :) |
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[21:46] <Jazzva> Ah... ok, I'll remove liferea-webkit, to see if it's ok :) |
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[21:48] <Jazzva> asac: It's the problem with liferea (or my character support...), and not with liferea-webkit |
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[21:49] <Jazzva> asac: So, at the first glance, it works fine. |
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[21:49] <asac> ok. do we have latest webkit? |
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[21:51] <Jazzva> asac: the same as in debian |
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[21:52] <Jazzva> it's 0~svn32442-1 |
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[21:53] <Jazzva> And the change to the package it's really little. Just adding debian/liferea-webkit.* files from Debian's package, enabling it in debian/{control,rules} |
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[21:59] <Jazzva> asac: So, are we doing liferea-webkit package? |
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[22:02] <asac> Jazzva: thats good |
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[22:02] <asac> we can probably enable it and push it |
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[22:03] <asac> Jazzva: have to get webkit to main though |
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[22:03] <asac> Jazzva: can you look how epiphany with webkit currently looks like? |
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[22:03] <asac> if that is already in a usable state we can do that migration too i guess |
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[22:04] <Jazzva> asac: You mean to build it? there is no package in ubuntu |
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[22:07] <asac> Jazzva: right ;) |
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[22:07] <asac> i think webkit is disabled |
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[22:08] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, I'll get our package and enable webkit :). |
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[22:41] <crimsun> asac: WRT libflashsupport, it's a bit complicated. It was never a real solution, so it shouldn't be used in either hardy-* or intrepid. The PulseAudio source package doesn't need to be adjusted in hardy-*; it may be in intrepid (i.e., promoting libasound2-plugins from Recommends to Depends). |
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[22:42] <crimsun> asac: So, for intrepid, libasound2-plugins is the intended path, since it functions with flashplugin-nonfree much better than libflashsupport (not to mention alsa-lib is fixed). |
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[22:42] <Jazzva> asac: Could we do the merge of epiphany-browser from debian, and then try to enable the webkit during the merge? |
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[22:43] <crimsun> asac: it is not possible to cleanly SRU alsa-lib into hardy-*, because the necessary bits will cause apps compiled against hardy's libasound2-dev to break. |
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[22:49] <Jazzva> asac: At least, I would go that way... :) |
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[22:54] <asac> crimsun: i agree on dumping libflashssupport |
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[22:54] <asac> crimsun: so what are the alsa-lib changes? isnt it just a the pulse plugin that needs to be enabled + flash 10? |
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[22:55] <crimsun> asac: no, we need a fixed alsa-plugins source package (see bzr) /and/ a fixed alsa-lib source package |
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[22:55] <crimsun> (for hardy-*, that is) |
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[22:56] <crimsun> alsa-plugins bits are fairly trivial and already in bzr |
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[22:56] <asac> right. just wonder what fix is it that requires alsa-lib to break ABI? |
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[22:56] <asac> crimsun: alsa plugins == pulse plugin/module for alsa right? |
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[22:56] <crimsun> I'll dig up the specific changesets, just on the phone ATM |
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[22:57] <crimsun> (WRT alsa-lib) |
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[22:57] <asac> crimsun: ok thanks |
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[22:57] <crimsun> yes, alsa-plugins contains pulse pcm & ctl |
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[22:57] <Jazzva> asac: If you have few minutes :)... Would you be ok if I try to do epiphany merge? It seems big, mostly Makefile.in's that couldn't be merged. So, I suppose I should just keep Debian files for that. Any other warnings? (in case you're fine with me doing the merge) |
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[22:58] <Jazzva> (you are the last uploader for it...) |
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[22:59] <asac> Jazzva: which merge? |
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[22:59] <Jazzva> asac: epiphany-browser |
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[22:59] <asac> Jazzva: i just upgraded epiphany-browser to latest upstream :) |
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[22:59] <asac> i am not really sure that epiphany-browser is really based on debian packages |
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[22:59] <Jazzva> asac: Hmm... I downloaded 2.22.1.1 (I think) half an hour ago... Now I noticed there is a merge waiting in Debian. So, merge is a no-go way. |
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[23:00] <asac> Jazzva: 2.22.2 is in proposed |
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[23:00] <asac> and intrepid |
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[23:00] <asac> iirc |
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[23:00] <Jazzva> asac: Looking at the changelog, I think we merged in the hardy cycle. But, there were many changes since then... |
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[23:01] <asac> our chanages are mostly for xulrunner 1.9 |
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[23:01] <asac> we probably need to keep them |
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[23:01] <asac> try to do the merge, but try to keep the xulrunner 1.9 changes for now |
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[23:01] <asac> (if the merge is about 2.22.2 at all) |
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[23:02] <asac> otherwise we have to wait till debian updates their package to 2.22.2 |
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[23:02] <Jazzva> Nope... I think it's still 2.22.1.1 in debian. |
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[23:03] <Jazzva> Ok... I'll try to pick their changes in order to enable webkit, and put them in our package... |
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[23:03] <asac> Jazzva: yeah ... do a three way merge ;) |
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[23:04] <Jazzva> Is that a good thing :)? |
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[23:04] <Jazzva> what is a three way merge exactly? |
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[23:04] <asac> better would be to do the debian upgrade and then merge ;) |
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[23:04] <asac> not sure who is debian maintainer |
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[23:04] <asac> but maybe its lool? |
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[23:04] <asac> you can certainly ask him to upload to debian |
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[23:06] <asac> Jazzva: well. now i remember: you should actually packag elatest 2.23 snapshot |
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[23:06] <asac> thats where all the epiphany webkit work happens |
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[23:06] <Jazzva> asac: Josselin Mouette and slomo... and Debian GNOME maintainers |
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[23:06] <asac> and we can drop xul changes as xul backend is gone |
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[23:06] <asac> ok |
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[23:07] <asac> Jazzva: maybe just try a local build for latest trunk of epiphany |
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[23:07] <asac> if that is good we should talk to seb first |
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[23:07] <asac> on how to coordinate that |
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[23:07] <asac> he has plans for 2.23 soon |
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[23:07] <Jazzva> So, for now, we go with 2.23... |
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[23:07] <Jazzva> Right? |
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[23:07] <asac> so he probably wants 2.23 packaged |
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[23:07] <asac> Jazzva: right ?... but dont put too much efford in packaging. maybe just try to build upstream sources and see in what state the tree is |
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[23:08] <asac> maybe upstream currently does some heavy lifting and its not suitable to be packaged at all right now |
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[23:09] <Jazzva> umm... ok. I'll see what I can do |
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[23:12] <asac> Bug 227274 |
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[23:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 227274 in firefox "X session crash when I visit a page with firefox" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227274 |
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[23:12] <asac> hmm gnomefreak set that to triaged |
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[23:13] <Jazzva> Ok... I'm off for 10-20 minutes.. See you soon |
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[23:52] <fta> http://vcscompare.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-mainline-merges-and-fast-forwards.html |
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[23:56] <fta> http://jam-bazaar.blogspot.com/2008/06/dvcs-comparison-on-mainline-merges-and.html |
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