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| [15:27] <kwwii> andreasn: ping? do you have an svg of a bug? I remember you made a nice one | |
| [15:28] <andreasn> I didn't make one, but Sebastian Kraft (I think it was him anyway) did one | |
| [15:28] <andreasn> I just did a 256x256px variant of it | |
| [15:28] <andreasn> let me see if I can find it | |
| [15:41] <andreasn> kwwii: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=82506&action=view | |
| [15:42] <andreasn> kwwii: and http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/bug-buddy.svg | |
| [15:45] <kwwii> andreasn: thanks :-) | |
| [15:52] <DanaG> Seen this thing? I like it except for the blatant branding (logo and name): http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Wallpaper-1-87094933 | |
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| [16:46] <andreasn> kwwii: np | |
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| [18:36] <Cimi> kwwii, no new theme in intrepid, mirco is too busy with face-browser | |
| [19:19] <kwwii> Cimi: I can still put in a murrine theme | |
| [19:20] <Cimi> kwwii, I think that we could have transparency in ubuntu 9.10 | |
| [19:21] <Cimi> because could be that the next gtk version will be released in august 2009 | |
| [19:23] <kwwii> Cimi: yeah, I assumed we will have to live without transparency this time around | |
| [19:23] <Cimi> but that sucks | |
| [19:23] <kwwii> yes, that does suck | |
| [19:23] <Cimi> because this means we may don't have a stable transparency for 10.04 | |
| [19:23] <Cimi> drivers needs to be updated | |
| [19:24] <kwwii> I mean, we could ship with any all plugins turned on if it looks good | |
| [19:24] <Cimi> and fixed | |
| [19:24] <Cimi> It won't | |
| [19:24] <Cimi> and it will crash | |
| [19:24] <kwwii> perhaps we could pick a couple of apps and test it | |
| [19:24] <kwwii> I haven't tested any plugins yet | |
| [19:24] <Cimi> because the issues remains | |
| [19:24] <kwwii> it does look good in the terminal though :-) | |
| [19:24] <Cimi> you can't use an application with a system tray | |
| [19:24] <kwwii> ouch, right | |
| [19:24] <kwwii> that does suck | |
| [19:24] <Cimi> yeah | |
| [19:25] <kwwii> the system tray needs fixing anyway | |
| [19:25] <Cimi> but as said | |
| [19:25] <Cimi> mirco is not going to fix | |
| [19:26] <kwwii> I think that I will post a screenshot with and without transparency to mark and tell him that if we want it we have to pay for it | |
| [19:26] <Cimi> unless someone inside ubuntu decide that rgba is more important | |
| [19:26] <Cimi> not to pay | |
| [19:26] <kwwii> ie. someone at or for canonical has to do it | |
| [19:26] <Cimi> just change the priority | |
| [19:26] <Cimi> mirco could work on this instead gdm | |
| [19:26] <kwwii> the problem with gdm is that he has been working on that for more than a year | |
| [19:26] <Cimi> gdm face browser is IMHO *fucking useless* | |
| [19:26] <kwwii> so they really want him to finish this up | |
| [19:27] <Cimi> 99% of the PCs have just 1 account installed | |
| [19:27] <kwwii> yeah, I thought about that too | |
| [19:27] <kwwii> and you only spend like 30s at that screen | |
| [19:27] <Cimi> and 99% of the time on your pc is supposed to be inside your DE, not on the DM! | |
| [19:28] <Cimi> fucking useless | |
| [19:28] <Cimi> as said | |
| [19:28] <Cimi> a lot of time and money wasted | |
| [19:28] <Cimi> and as consequence | |
| [19:28] <Cimi> we won't have transparency for more then 2 years | |
| [19:29] <Cimi> because the testing period will start in 9.10, and maybe won't be stable in time for 10.4 | |
| [19:34] <DanaG> I'd rather they figure out a way to get native-resolution framebuffer. | |
| [19:35] <DanaG> Having usplash all stretched out of whack is annoying. | |
| [19:35] <DanaG> One workaround: calculate a way to compensate for the stretching, by reverse-stretching. | |
| [19:39] <Cimi> v86d does the trick | |
| [19:40] <Cimi> you can use every resolution you like | |
| [19:41] <DanaG> Even ones that aren't in the VBE modes? | |
| [19:43] <kwwii> as far as framebuffers go, I think that there will always be problems | |
| [19:43] <DanaG> I wonder if there's any reliable way to detect whether the LCD stretches. | |
| [19:44] <DanaG> If console uses AxB and Xorg uses CxD, stretch the splash to make it look like it matches the latter. | |
| [19:49] <Cimi> DanaG, you can use archlinux ;) | |
| [19:50] <DanaG> What does that have to do with anything? | |
| [19:50] <DanaG> =þ | |
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