| [01:21] <bimberi> The_Kernel: Yes, Ubuntu installs with no root password set so logins to it are disabled. | |
| [01:23] <bimberi> The_Kernel: Not sure about the denied login. It could be in the sshd configuration on that server. Or /etc/hosts.[allow|deny] | |
| [01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> The_Kernel, try with -vv you might have been blacklisted | |
| [02:20] <christefano> has anyone known ssl-blacklist to have false positives? | |
| [02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> i've heard of it, but not with any sort of proof | |
| [02:21] <christefano> hmm. | |
| [02:43] <christefano> how do I test my SSL certificate against the openssh-blacklist? | |
| [02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> openssl-vulnkey ? | |
| [02:44] <christefano> I'm not sure how to pass a certificate to openssh-vulnkey. it seems to only check SSH keys | |
| [02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ssl. not ssh | |
| [02:45] <christefano> ah, I don't have that. | |
| [02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. | |
| [02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> openssl-blacklist: /usr/sbin/openssl-vulnkey | |
| [02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Installed: 0.1-0ubuntu0.7.10.4 | |
| [02:50] <emgent> morning | |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | |
| [05:28] <m11> hello | |
| [09:47] <Litefire> morning all | |
| [09:48] <Litefire> i am having a little trouble with my server instal recognizing a sata2 hd | |
| [09:49] <Litefire> i have an ibm 330 server i installed ubuntu on and cant seem to figure it out when i start it up i get ata2: srst failed errno-16 for the data hd | |
| [09:50] <Litefire> the raid that ubuntu is installed on starts up fine but the sata2 drive i have attached to a pci card isnt discoverable from what i can figure out | |
| [09:51] <osmosis> anyone know if it is possible to do a raid 10 with software raid? | |
| [09:52] <_ruben> osmosis: yes .. there's a raid10 kmod .. or you could do it 'manually' with raid1 and raid0 | |
| [09:53] <osmosis> _ruben: is it reliable? | |
| [09:53] <osmosis> _ruben: can you recommend some instructions ? | |
| [09:56] <_ruben> the basics are as simple as : sudo mdadm --build /dev/md0 --level=10 -- raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 | |
| [09:56] <_ruben> oops, kill the space between -- and raid-devices | |
| [09:56] <_ruben> the installer doesnt support raid10, so if you want to install the system to raid10, you'll have to drop down to a shell during the install to give that command | |
| [09:58] <_ruben> and reliable, well, the raid10 kmod is one of there newer raid kmods, so hasnt aged as much as plain raid1+0, but offers some nice enhancements as well (like doing raid10 over 3 disks for example) | |
| [09:58] <_ruben> http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~neilb/01093607424 | |
| === fredrik__ is now known as frippz | |
| [12:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello, is there a way to get aptitude to install smartmontools w/out exim4, mailx etc etc etc? | |
| [12:43] * NineTeen67Comet sudo aptitude install smartmontools = exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light liblockfile1 mailx | |
| [12:45] <ikonia> nealmcb: it just needs an mta | |
| [12:45] <ikonia> oops | |
| [12:45] <ikonia> NineTeen67Comet: it just needs an mta | |
| [12:45] <NineTeen67Comet> aha .. no mail on this server, but I guess it can just use it as it pleases .. | |
| [12:46] * NineTeen67Comet would have e-mail if me isp would crack the ports open .. | |
| [12:46] <ikonia> NineTeen67Comet: let it install exim and then use local mail only | |
| [12:47] <NineTeen67Comet> ikonia: prolly what I'll do .. | |
| [12:47] <ikonia> NineTeen67Comet: make it easy on yourself | |
| [12:53] <cjsstables> hello all. I can't resolve internal names on my network. I'm able to resolve external names. If I do a lookup on my internal nameserver I get an SOA record for prisoner.iana.org. Can someone help here | |
| [12:53] <cjsstables> btw I used lookup with an ip address of my name server | |
| [13:10] <ikonia> cjsstables: ok - so if your domain is "domain1" your saying you can't resolve box1.domain1 | |
| [13:10] <cjsstables> that's correct | |
| [13:10] <cjsstables> but I can resolve anything on the outside | |
| [13:12] <ikonia> cjsstables: ok - so have you setup your own domain zone file ? | |
| [13:12] <ikonia> cjsstables: are you using anything like views ? | |
| [13:13] <cjsstables> no views. I have dns forwarding zone | |
| [13:14] <ikonia> cjsstables: so where is the domain your wanting to resolve kept | |
| [13:14] <cjsstables> dns server addy is 192.168.0.1, lynksys router is 192.168.0.2 | |
| [13:15] <ikonia> ok - but where is your domain zone file ? | |
| [13:15] <cjsstables> it is kept on 192.168.0.1 / srv1.soho.cjs | |
| [13:15] <cjsstables> internal private network | |
| [13:16] <ikonia> cjsstables: ok, so if you do nslookup server=192.168.0.1 then "box1.soho.cjs" does it respond ? | |
| [13:16] <ikonia> cjsstables: do you have "ns" lines in your one file ? | |
| [13:16] <ikonia> zone | |
| [13:17] <cjsstables> hold on | |
| [13:17] <cjsstables> nslookup srv1.soho.cjs | |
| [13:17] <cjsstables> Server: 192.168.0.1 | |
| [13:17] <cjsstables> Address: 192.168.0.1#53 | |
| [13:17] <cjsstables> ** server can't find srv1.soho.cjs: NXDOMAIN | |
| [13:18] <ikonia> cjsstables: no - type nslookup | |
| [13:18] <ikonia> cjsstables: then do server=192.168.0.1 | |
| [13:18] <ikonia> cjsstables: then do serv1.soho.cjs | |
| [13:18] <ikonia> oops srv1.soho.cjs | |
| [13:19] <ikonia> just want to check it step by step | |
| [13:19] <ikonia> (I appriciate thats the same as your output) | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> server=192.168.0.1 | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> Server: 192.168.0.1 | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> Address: 192.168.0.1#53 | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> ** server can't find server=192.168.0.1: NXDOMAIN | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> > srv1.soho.cjs | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> Server: 192.168.0.1 | |
| [13:19] <ikonia> cjsstables: does your zone file contain ns records, does it have an entry for srv1 | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> Address: 192.168.0.1#53 | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> ** server can't find srv1.soho.cjs: NXDOMAIN | |
| [13:19] <cjsstables> yes it has an entry for srv1 | |
| [13:20] <ikonia> server=192.168.0.1 ; ** server can't find server=192.168.0.1: NXDOMAIN | |
| [13:20] <ikonia> thats worrying | |
| [13:20] <ikonia> does your zone file have ns lines ? | |
| [13:20] <cjsstables> what are ns lines? | |
| [13:20] <ikonia> cjsstables: the say the name servers for the zone | |
| [13:21] <cjsstables> I can't answer that i'll have to look. | |
| [13:21] <cjsstables> where do I look at? | |
| [13:21] <cjsstables> I have webmin installed to administer the name server | |
| [13:21] <ikonia> ughhh webmin | |
| [13:21] <ikonia> and this is me backing away | |
| [13:22] <cjsstables> its ok. i can use command line also | |
| [13:22] <ikonia> cjsstables: I can't support products with webmind - it's the devils tool | |
| [13:22] <ikonia> cjsstables: webmin changes the way things can work | |
| [13:23] <cjsstables> so do you want me to open bind.conf | |
| [13:23] <ikonia> not really | |
| [13:23] <ikonia> I wanted you to look at your zone file for "NS" entries | |
| [13:24] <ikonia> but it certainly wouldn't hurt to look if your bind.conf file contains an entry for your domain either | |
| [13:24] <ikonia> that way you can see where it expects the zone file to be | |
| [13:24] <cjsstables> ok. | |
| [13:24] <cjsstables> brb | |
| [13:24] <cjsstables> exit | |
| [13:24] <cjsstables> oops.. sorry | |
| [13:27] <cjsstables> ikonia: my named conf doesn't point to any zones. looks like the zones are included through named.conf.options | |
| [13:28] <ikonia> cjsstables: ok - so follow that through | |
| [13:28] <cjsstables> k brb | |
| [13:31] <cjsstables> ok. in my named.conf.local I have the following zone | |
| [13:31] <cjsstables> zone "soho.cjs" { | |
| [13:31] <cjsstables> type master; | |
| [13:31] <cjsstables> file "/etc/bind/soho.cjs.hosts"; | |
| [13:31] <cjsstables> }; | |
| [13:34] <sommer> morning all | |
| [13:35] <jjesse> morning sommer | |
| [13:35] <ikonia> cjsstables: ok, do you have /etc/bind/soho.cjs.hosts | |
| [13:35] <cjsstables> ikonia: inside my soho.cjs.hosts file I have a SOA record for srv1.soho.cjs | |
| [13:35] <ikonia> cjsstables: ok, I suggest you put an NS line in | |
| [13:36] <ikonia> cjsstables: I'm worried at why nslookup; server=192.168.0.1 tried to resolve server= rather than set the server to be used | |
| [13:36] <cjsstables> ok . there is an ns line for srv1.soho.cjs and an A record for 192.168.0.1 | |
| [13:37] <cjsstables> what bothers me is this line.....soho.cjs. IN SOA srv1.soho.cjs. cjsadmin.soho.cjs. ( | |
| [13:38] <cjsstables> because there is no machine anywhere called cjsadmin.soho.cjs | |
| [13:38] <cjsstables> cjsadmin is actually a username on the server | |
| [13:42] <cjsstables> ikonia: can I instant message you? | |
| [13:42] <ikonia> cjsstables: I'm not signed into one at the moment, sorry | |
| [13:43] <ikonia> cjsstables: don't worry about the cjsadmin.soho.cjs. line | |
| [13:43] <cjsstables> ok | |
| [13:44] <ikonia> cjsstables: can you pastebin the zone file please ? | |
| [13:44] <cjsstables> youl'll have to re-instruct me on using pastebin. i forget how to use it. | |
| [13:45] <cjsstables> is it pastbin.org or com | |
| [13:47] <cjsstables> actually. I'll paste all of my bind config files | |
| === mdz_ is now known as mdz | |
| [13:49] <cjsstables> ikonia: ok named.conf...http://pastebin.com/m648cf8b9 | |
| [13:50] <ikonia> no - the zone file | |
| [13:50] <cjsstables> which one would that be? | |
| [13:50] <ikonia> the one with cjsadmin.soho.cjs line in it | |
| [13:50] <cjsstables> ok... | |
| [13:51] <cjsstables> Ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d4728359f | |
| [13:52] <ikonia> cjsstables: did you incriment the serial when you changed it ? | |
| [13:52] <cjsstables> yes | |
| [13:52] <cjsstables> I sent a whole new pastebin | |
| [13:52] <ikonia> cjsstables: no the serial on the zone file | |
| [13:53] <cjsstables> then no I didn't. I haven't changed it at all | |
| [13:55] <ikonia> but you did add the "NS" line ? | |
| [13:55] <cjsstables> no. those ns and a records were already there | |
| [13:55] <ikonia> oh right | |
| [13:55] <ikonia> thats odd | |
| [13:55] <ikonia> cjsstables: I suggest you restart bind, look at the file /var/log/messages and check out if it loadds your file ok | |
| [13:56] <cjsstables> ok | |
| [13:56] <cjsstables> brb | |
| [13:59] <cjsstables> ikonia: looking at the message log I show no messages since last boot at7:22 am. (Oh I did restart the bind9 server like you said) | |
| [14:00] <cjsstables> is there any other log that I can look at for bind errors? | |
| [14:01] <ikonia> you see no updates on restarting bind ? | |
| [14:01] <cjsstables> nope. none | |
| [14:01] <ikonia> thats worrying you should at least see bind shutdown / start time stamps | |
| [14:02] <cjsstables> ok I'll look again | |
| [14:04] <cjsstables> ikonia: sorry... I thought messages were listed latest first. hold on while I page to the bottom of the file | |
| [14:07] <ikonia> no problem | |
| [14:08] <cjsstables> ikonia: believe it or not there are no other entries in the log after June 2 08:45 | |
| [14:08] <ikonia> I do believe it, but that is quite worrying | |
| [14:08] <cjsstables> why? | |
| [14:08] <ikonia> there should be a time stamp for bind stopping and starting | |
| [14:09] <cjsstables> . I have rebooted multiple times since 8:45 also. no of those are in there either | |
| [14:09] <cjsstables> unless Jun 2 08:45:53 srv1 -- MARK -- is a valid entry for reboot | |
| [14:11] <cjsstables> I'll restart bind again and see if the messages is updated | |
| [14:13] <cjsstables> ikonia: I did a restart on bind, and there was no new entry.... | |
| [14:14] <ikonia> cjsstables: one moment | |
| [14:14] <cjsstables> k | |
| [14:15] <ikonia> cjsstables: thats my mistake - bind in ubuntu doesn't log | |
| [14:15] <ikonia> cjsstables: I may log that as an enchancment | |
| [14:15] <cjsstables> wheh... I was worrying | |
| [14:17] <cjsstables> it is funny. I am ssh'ing into the server with ssh cjsadmin@192.168.0.1, I then sudo su, and my terminal window from my client shows root@srv1.soho.cjs | |
| [14:18] <ikonia> cjsstables: sudo su ??? | |
| [14:18] <ikonia> cjsstables: you shouldn't be doing that | |
| [14:19] <ikonia> cjsstables: your client name is probably being picked up form your host file resoution | |
| [14:19] <cjsstables> I know, but I'm not on a production environment yet and also on a private net right now | |
| [14:21] <cjsstables> one other bit of info when logged onto the server, I can ping srv1 and get resulst returned. | |
| [14:21] <cjsstables> ping soho.cjs | |
| [14:21] <cjsstables> returns no host found | |
| [14:22] <cjsstables> ping srv1.soho.cjs returns good results | |
| [14:22] <cjsstables> so the server itself is resolving names to ip's | |
| [14:23] <cjsstables> but my clients cannot resolve names to ip on the local net | |
| [14:24] <ikonia> cjsstables: and your using the FQD on your clients ? | |
| [14:24] <cjsstables> yes | |
| [14:24] <ikonia> cjsstables: have you setup the recersive permissions correctly (they should be ok by default for SOA zones) | |
| [14:25] <cjsstables> I don't think there is a reverse zone ...I don't know what recursive permissions are | |
| [14:31] <ikonia> you don't need reverse zone | |
| [14:32] <cjsstables> ikonia: should I have a file called soho.cjs.db in my /etc/bind/ directory? because I don't. the only thing I have is a db.0 | |
| [14:32] <ikonia> cjsstables: thats normally a cache file (I don't have an ubuntu server to hand to verify this, hence why I'm working from memory) | |
| [14:32] <cjsstables> ah ok. | |
| [14:36] <cjsstables> ikonia: I found a how to to manually create a caching name server in ubuntu. I'm going to stop dns and rebuild using that. | |
| [14:36] <cjsstables> hopefully that works | |
| [14:36] <ikonia> caching name server isn't for hosting zones | |
| [14:36] <cjsstables> no but it will still allow me to resolve local IP's won't it? | |
| [14:37] <cjsstables> oops local names... | |
| [14:37] <_ruben> no, only non-local ones | |
| [14:40] <ikonia> cjsstables: your problem is that your box doesn't seem aware that it's hosting the domain | |
| [14:40] <cjsstables> it looks as though this how to has a revers lookup file that has named.conf.local that specifies the zone | |
| [14:40] <cjsstables> and then referes to a reverse zone | |
| [14:40] <cjsstables> also has the forwarders in it | |
| [14:41] <ikonia> cjsstables: ahhhhh I have it | |
| [14:41] <cjsstables> ok... | |
| [14:41] <ikonia> cjsstables: your server can do it because it's doing the lookup locally | |
| [14:42] <cjsstables> ok | |
| [14:42] <cjsstables> makes sense | |
| [14:42] <ikonia> your clients hit the box - get forwarded on, but the NS record is 192.168.0.1, which is non-routable so routes to no-where | |
| [14:42] <Libertine-> hi | |
| [14:42] <ikonia> cjsstables: take the forward of that zone | |
| [14:42] <cjsstables> you mean remove the forwarding part | |
| [14:43] <ikonia> on that domain | |
| [14:43] <ikonia> so that it knows its local to the box | |
| [14:44] <cjsstables> hold on I gotta think though this a sec.... | |
| [14:44] <cjsstables> and recall what file holds the forarder | |
| [14:47] <cjsstables> ikonia: Ok I'm lost. | |
| [14:47] <ikonia> cjsstables: one moment | |
| [14:47] <ikonia> I'm going to see if I can gain access to an ubuntu box from where I am | |
| [14:47] <cjsstables> ok | |
| [14:48] <cjsstables> ikonia: I have to go outside for a minute... smoke break.. LOL. I'll be back | |
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| [15:01] <cjsstables> ikonia: back now | |
| === good_dana1 is now known as good_dana | |
| [15:30] <cyris|> morning everyone | |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | |
| [16:22] <zul> jdstrand: ping | |
| [16:24] <jdstrand> zul: pong | |
| [16:25] <zul> jdstrand: you were the last one to touch openldap2.3 in hardy do you mind if I take the merge off your hands? | |
| [16:25] <jdstrand> zul: that would be very much appreciated :) | |
| [16:25] <zul> jdstrand: consider it done :) | |
| [16:25] <jdstrand> \o/ | |
| [16:25] <jdstrand> thanks | |
| [16:26] <emgent> heya :) | |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | |
| [17:06] <uvirtbot> New bug: #236830 in samba (main) "cifs does not support kerberos authentication" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236830 | |
| [17:07] <afief_> Could someone tell me what's wrong with the following crontab? 53 18 * * * root mysqldump --all-databases -uroot -pmightyrhapsody | bzip2 > /media/backup/mysql/`date \+%d-%m-%y`.bz2 | |
| [17:14] <InsomniaCity> you might be better off moving the commands out into a script somewhere | |
| [17:15] <afief_> InsomniaCity, thanks, I'll try that | |
| [17:15] <InsomniaCity> also, my crontab doesn't have usernames in it | |
| [17:19] <delcoyote> hi all | |
| [17:20] <delcoyote> have an issue to connect lan server through putty or ssh, server has monitor, mouse,keyboard, through a kvm switch(4 pc's) if its connected it connects, if its disconnected from monitor, mouse, keyboard, can't connect to it, and if keyboard and mouse(not monitor) are connected I can connect also, what is wrong, what I shold be looking for? | |
| [17:42] <hackeron> hey, I'm trying to text kexec to boot another kernel on kernel panic, the documentation says to echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger but it isn't causing a kernel panic on my ubuntu server - how do I cause a kernel panic? | |
| [17:42] <hackeron> err, I mean I'm trying to get kexec to boot another kernel on kernel panic | |
| === kees_ is now known as kees | |
| [18:16] <spiekey_> Hi | |
| [18:17] <spiekey_> is anyone here using some tool to monitor the CPU, Harddrive and motherboard teperature? | |
| [18:34] <mathiaz> sommer: is there anything about nss-ldap and how to setup an ubuntu client to use an ldap server instead of NIS in the docs ? | |
| [18:39] <sommer> mathiaz: nope, not in the serverguide, but there are some good guides in help.u.c | |
| [18:39] <timboy> ssh stopped working on my my main computer... when I try to connect it says connection refused... | |
| [18:40] <sommer> mathiaz: expanding the LDAP section is on the list for Intrepid though :) | |
| [18:41] <timboy> i removed it with apt-get remove and reinstalled it but still no go... is there something else I should look at? | |
| [18:42] <sommer> timboy: is the sshd service running? | |
| [18:44] <timboy> sommer, in /etc/init.d/ there is no ssh there is ssh though | |
| [18:45] <timboy> i restarted it and it said ok but still says refused | |
| [18:45] <sommer> timboy: try ps -ef | grep sshd, and see if it gives you some process numbers | |
| [18:45] <sommer> timboy: you could also try ssh -vvv hostname, to give more debugging output | |
| [18:46] <timboy> root 25684 1 10:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd | |
| [18:47] <timboy> same message. connection refused no more useful data | |
| [18:47] <timboy> not running a firewall | |
| [18:48] <sommer> timboy: did you use the -vvv option? you might also check /var/log/auth.log on the server | |
| [18:49] <timboy> sommer, in /var/lob/auth.log it says error: bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: address already in use. I'm sure that's from when I restarted ssh | |
| [18:49] <timboy> so something is already using ssh port? | |
| [18:49] <sommer> timboy: you might have another service running on that port then | |
| [18:49] <timboy> ok how do I tell | |
| [18:49] <blue-frog> mathiaz: very simple. install ldap-auth-client, make sure you enter the ldap admin passord during conf, run: sudo auth-client-config -a -p lac_ldap, change bind_policy hard by bind_policy soft in /etc/ldap.conf and off you go | |
| [18:50] <sommer> timboy: I'd try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop, and then ps -ef | grep ssh to make sure all the process are stopped | |
| [18:51] <timboy> 6583 6545 0 may 30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent x-session-manager | |
| [18:55] <timboy> sommer, what's that mean? | |
| [18:59] <timboy> can someone help me troubleshoot my ssh issues? | |
| [19:00] <timboy> something appears to be hogging port 22... | |
| [19:04] <sommer> timboy: is that ssh-agent running on the server? | |
| [19:05] <timboy> i don't know... it's in my init.d directory | |
| [19:07] <timboy> ok nevermind it's not in my init.d directory | |
| [19:07] <sommer> timboy: which machine did you run find the process on? the one you're trying to connect to or the machine you're trying to connect from? | |
| [19:07] <sommer> timboy: I'd try restarting ssh on the machine you're trying to connect to | |
| [19:07] <timboy> the one i'm trying to connect to | |
| [19:08] <timboy> i've done that several times though... | |
| [19:09] <sommer> timboy: are there any errors in /var/log/syslog after you restart ssh? | |
| [19:10] <timboy> no just the error I get in auth.log | |
| [19:11] <timboy> i just purged the ssh and openssh-server programs with aptitude and reinstalled them and no go. so there is something else using port 22 | |
| [19:12] <ScottK> timboy: Does netstat list anything? | |
| [19:12] <sommer> can you pastebin the output of ssh -vvv servername ? replacing servername with the host you're trying to connect to | |
| [19:16] <timboy> sommer, http://rafb.net/p/2yFLIv70.html | |
| [19:18] <sommer> timboy: have you upgraded both the server and the client... it may be because of the week sshkey issue | |
| [19:19] <timboy> not upgraded client but have upgraded server... | |
| [19:20] <timboy> sommer, I can't even do ssh localhost | |
| [19:21] <sommer> timboy: as ScottK said try netstat -a and see what is listening | |
| [19:23] <timboy> sommer, doesn't appear that anything is... | |
| [19:24] <sommer> and you still get the error about something already listening on port 22? | |
| [19:25] <timboy> yes | |
| [19:25] <timboy> weird | |
| [19:25] <sommer> hrrmmm, maybe try restarting... that'll be sure and stop all the services | |
| [19:26] <timboy> ok... | |
| [19:27] <sommer> timboy: you might also try setting the LogLevel attribute in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to DEBUG, to produce more output | |
| [19:45] <timboy> sommer, still no go | |
| [19:45] <timboy> ssh localhost is working but in my auth.log i still get the error about binding to port 22 | |
| [19:46] <timboy> sommer, took so long because i had the joyous fsck check | |
| [19:48] <sommer> timboy: you might also try setting the LogLevel attribute in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to DEBUG, to produce more output | |
| [19:50] <sommer> timboy: netstat -nlp may reveal more about which process are using which ports | |
| [19:51] <timboy> sommer, shows nothing with port 22 in netstat | |
| [19:52] <timboy> actually now it's showing up hold on | |
| [19:53] <sommer> timboy: and sshd is running? you should see output from ps -ef | grep sshd listing a proces number | |
| [19:54] <timboy> sommer, ok purged it again!@ and now it doesn't show up... | |
| [19:55] <sommer> timboy: so try starting it again (/etc/init.d/ssh start) | |
| [19:56] <sommer> timboy: can you pastebin the output of ps -ef ? after trying to start ssh | |
| [19:56] <timboy> i'll need to install it again | |
| [19:57] <sommer> yep you'll need openssh-server installed in order to connect | |
| [19:57] <timboy> root 14604 1 0 12:02 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd | |
| [19:57] <timboy> Jun 2 12:02:25 ubuntu sshd[14604]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. | |
| [19:57] <timboy> is this because i'm installing both ssh and openssh-server? | |
| [19:58] <timboy> what's weird is that it says it is running but at the same time tells me that it can't bind to port 22. same PID | |
| [19:58] <timboy> I can do ssh localhost now though | |
| [20:03] <dena_> sommer, about to reformat... | |
| === dena_ is now known as timboy_ | |
| [20:47] <nealmcb> . o O (timboy needs to run sudo netstat -ltp to find out who has the port open) | |
| === emgent_ is now known as emgent | |
| [21:07] <genii> Is there some CLI update-notifier? Aside from the obvious way of just running something like apt-get update or such that is. | |
| [21:14] <blue-frog> genii: what is your need? | |
| [21:15] <InsomniaCity> genii: I'd imagine apt has exit codes or something for non-interative operation | |
| [21:15] <InsomniaCity> *interactive | |
| [21:17] <genii> blue-frog: Basically to have the CLI equivelent of update-notifier feauture which exists otherwise. | |
| [21:18] <genii> When run unattended perhaps to email admin of which are available | |
| [21:19] <blue-frog> as I don't know if it exits (certainly es) I would use a workaround myself, apt-get update && apt-get -s dist-upgrade and email the result (or log) | |
| [21:20] <blue-frog> email upon conditions, only if one of the result has something else than 0 in (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded) | |
| [21:21] <blue-frog> well at least 0 upgraded in fact | |
| [21:22] <osmosis> whats the alternative CD for ? | |
| [21:22] <blue-frog> install GUI Ubuntu | |
| [21:23] <osmosis> blue-frog: for server ? | |
| [21:24] <blue-frog> well if you want a GUI server | |
| [21:24] <blue-frog> but more for desktop | |
| [21:26] <blue-frog> genii: have a look at man apt-get. what about the -u option? | |
| [21:28] <Erosion> Just installed ubuntu server, is there a guide about what I should install when I first get it? | |
| [21:29] <blue-frog> I would say that only you know what service you want. | |
| [21:31] <blue-frog> genii: or maybe apt-show-versions -u | |
| [21:31] <genii> Hmm, perhaps download-only with -u then pipe that to a file which emails off | |
| [21:31] <genii> You'd think there might be a simpler way though | |
| [21:32] <blue-frog> in that case -s would be enough, no need to download | |
| [21:32] <Erosion> Isn't there a guide, showing the best software for FTP, Web Server, Mail Server etc | |
| [21:33] <Erosion> In ubuntu server when I hit the <-- KEY, (backspace), it treats it like I've hit the DEL Key, and removes the character infront (instead of behind) | |
| [21:36] <blue-frog> genii: apt-show-versions from universe looks nice | |
| [21:36] <genii> blue-frog: I'm formulating a plan in which if already downloaded, a return email may be parsed and packages indicated there upgraded | |
| [21:37] <blue-frog> yes yes understood, apt-show-versions -u will list all the upgradeable packages | |
| [21:37] <blue-frog> and apprently exit 0 if none | |
| [21:37] <lukehasnoname> erosion: | |
| [21:38] <lukehasnoname> During install you should have been prompted on what type of server you wanted, then it would install the latest supported software for that task | |
| [21:38] <lukehasnoname> It's possible to bring up that menu again, but I don't know the command. | |
| [21:38] <blue-frog> tasksel | |
| [21:38] <lukehasnoname> boosh | |
| [21:41] <Erosion> Is there any way of getting into my remote ubuntu-server located in the US, from my iMac in the UK? | |
| [21:41] <Erosion> Apart from SSH. | |
| [21:43] <blue-frog> magic? | |
| [21:43] <nealmcb> erosio | |
| [21:43] <JanC> Erosion: there are a zillion ways, but you have to prepare them before you leave of course ツ | |
| [21:43] <nealmcb> ...oops | |
| [21:44] <Erosion> JanC: You cannot do it in SSH? | |
| [21:44] <Erosion> I have root SSH access to it from here | |
| [21:44] <JanC> so, then you can install anything you want I guess, but what's the problem if SSH works ? | |
| [21:44] <nealmcb> look at the options available with the "tasksel" command | |
| [21:45] <Erosion> JanC: I'd like to be able to view the desktop, so I get the full environment. | |
| [21:46] <nealmcb> vnc? | |
| [21:46] <Erosion> What's the quickest way? | |
| [21:46] <Erosion> Through an iMac? | |
| [21:46] <nealmcb> !servergui | |
| [21:46] <ubottu> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance. !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options. | |
| [21:46] <blue-frog> Erosion: have you installed a server or desktop? | |
| [21:46] <Erosion> Server | |
| [21:46] <Erosion> I run OSX here though | |
| [21:47] <Erosion> Is it possible? | |
| [21:47] <JanC> run X through ssh -X / ssh -Y or run VNC through ssh or ssl ? | |
| [21:47] <blue-frog> then to do what you want you would need to install a GUI first | |
| [21:47] <JanC> well, at least the X libs... | |
| [21:47] <blue-frog> otherwise with ssh you already see the the full environment | |
| [21:48] <JanC> and some X client programs | |
| [21:48] <Erosion> OK | |
| [21:49] <JanC> Erosion: why do you need a GUI? | |
| [21:52] <Erosion> Was just a thought, it's not necessary, JanC | |
| [21:54] <Erosion> What does this mean?: Package libmysqlclient12-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package. | |
| [21:55] <JanC> it means what it says... | |
| [21:56] <lukehasnoname> Does Xen have any sort of GUI for administration or any formal manual that discusses remote administration? | |
| [21:56] <JanC> libmysqlclient12 is actually pretty old ? | |
| [21:56] <nealmcb> lukehasnoname: virt-manager does xen | |
| [21:57] <Erosion> JanC: Just got it from a guide. | |
| [21:58] <lukehasnoname> k | |
| [21:58] <JanC> Erosion: I guess that's a guide tah twasn't updated for Ubuntu 8.04 | |
| [21:58] <lukehasnoname> nealmcb thanks | |
| [21:58] <kirkland> kees: hey, you around? | |
| [21:58] <kees> kirkland: yup, what's goin' on? | |
| [21:59] <JanC> 'libmysqlclient12-dev' was in dapper & edgy | |
| [21:59] <kirkland> kees: hey, was wondering if you might give another spec a once-over | |
| [21:59] <kees> sure, url? | |
| [22:00] <JanC> Erosion: you can probably just use the latest libmysqlclient library? | |
| [22:00] <kirkland> kees: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory | |
| [22:05] <kirkland> kees: I tried to follow your use case examples more closely in this spec | |
| [22:06] <lukehasnoname> sounds interesting | |
| [22:07] <lukehasnoname> I don't know enough to judge how complicated it would be to implement an encrypted fs like that | |
| [22:07] <kees> kirkland: on a nit-pick, use case 3 seems entirely addressed by DAC (remote users). Not sure how to improve that one, since case 4 seems more compelling (local users). Also, I would recommend discussion of how it relates to the xdg-user-dirs package (see /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults). Does it perhaps belong in there? I'd like to see (maybe with another use-case) the option for people to NOT have to have an encrypt ~/Private (i.e. I trust DAC e | |
| [22:07] <lukehasnoname> I've always thought that at minimum a 700 folder should be in each uer's dir | |
| [22:09] <kirkland> kees: so the only difference between 3 and 4 I intended (in my mind anyway) was SSH logins versus Desktop logins | |
| [22:09] <kirkland> kees: and by Desktop, I even mean Remote Desktop or VNC connections | |
| [22:09] <kirkland> kees: graphical vs. command line only | |
| [22:10] <kirkland> lukehasnoname: thanks. | |
| [22:10] <emgent> heya | |
| [22:11] <kirkland> kees: so with respect to 3 & 4, this gives you some cryptographic protection of your data (in addition to DAC) when you're not logged into the system, and a whole lot of protection if someone steals the physical hardware and it's powered off | |
| [22:11] <kees> kirkland: perhaps add the "stolen hardware" bit? just to help defend it. :) | |
| [22:12] <kees> kirkland: what do you think of the "allow people to not have an encrypted mount point" option? | |
| [22:12] <kirkland> kees: physical abduction of a server is of course unlikely in any major corporate environment; but small to medium business, say a mom-and-pop shop or a dentist office.... | |
| [22:12] <kirkland> kees: yeah, i think that's a good idea | |
| [22:12] <kirkland> kees: i will definitely add that one | |
| [22:12] <kirkland> kees: give me a moment to think on that one......... | |
| [22:12] <kees> kirkland: cool. yeah, for theft, I think it's a valuable use-case, so it's good to highlight it. :) | |
| [22:13] <kirkland> kees: so i was planning on handling this as an "Opt-In" in adduser | |
| [22:13] <kirkland> "Do you want an encrypted ~/Private directory for this user?" | |
| [22:13] <kees> kirkland: oh! even better. | |
| [22:13] <kees> I'd like to see ~/Private added to xdg-user-dirs regardless | |
| [22:13] <kees> (and to see the ~/Desktop perms changed for that too) | |
| [22:13] <kirkland> kees: perhaps what would be useful is an "undo" operation. basically a reverse of ecryptfs-setup-confidential | |
| [22:14] <kirkland> kees: i need to research xdg-user-dirs as I'm not familiar | |
| [22:14] <kees> kirkland: yeah, it was provides ~/Desktop, Documents, Templates etc | |
| [22:14] <kirkland> kees: cool | |
| [22:16] <kirkland> kees: if you think it's necessary (or if someone else requests it), i can add an option to ecryptfs-setup-confidential --reverse | |
| [22:17] <kirkland> which would kill the entry in /etc/fstab, copy the cleartext data to ~/Private, remove the encrypted .Private directory, and remove the entries from .bash_profile, .bash_logout, and .config/autostart | |
| [22:17] <kees> it might be nice, yeah. It would certainly make it more complete. | |
| [22:17] <kirkland> kees: actually, that would be useful for my testing | |
| [22:17] <kirkland> kees: i've been doing that schtuff by hand every time I fvt my scripts :-) | |
| [22:23] <kirkland> kees: okay, i added a blanket statement about physical theft and crypto+DAC below the Use Cases, since it actually applies to all of the Use Cases | |
| [22:23] <kirkland> kees: i'll add a bit about undoing the cryptographic mountpoint of ~/Private | |
| [22:26] <kees> cool | |
| [22:32] <kirkland> wiki is so painfully sloooooooow :-/ | |
| [22:47] <kirkland> kees: fyi, use case 7 added (undo ~/Private encryption), as well as a note below all Use Cases regarding physical theft | |
| [22:47] <kirkland> kees: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory | |
| [22:47] <kirkland> kees: I'm going to push it onto ubuntu-server@ for comments | |
| [22:49] <kees> kirkland: sounds good. :) | |
| [22:49] <kirkland> kees: i even found (in retrospect) a bug report supporting this BluePrint: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/210179 | |
| [22:49] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 210179 in ecryptfs-utils "encrypting part of a file system is way too hard" [Wishlist,In progress] | |
| [22:51] <kees> haha, nice. | |
| [23:02] <nijaba> nealmcb, ajmitch: thanks a lot for your support on my ubuntu membership! | |
| [23:07] <hackeron> hey, I'm trying to get kexec to boot another kernel on kernel panic, the documentation says to echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger to trigger a kernel panic to test if kexec starts another kernel, but it isn't causing a panic :( - how do I cause a kernel panic to test if kexec is working? | |
| [23:11] <uvirtbot> New bug: #236931 in openssh (main) "openssh-server does not find dsa keys authorized_keys file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236931 | |
| [23:12] <ajmitch> nijaba: not that I really helped :) | |
| [23:18] <mathiaz> nijaba: congrats ! | |
| [23:57] * nealmcb appreciates nijaba | |