| [02:50] <emgent> morning | |
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| [12:44] <Iulian> Hey | |
| [12:45] <steve555> Hi there. | |
| [12:45] <Iulian> Hello steve | |
| [12:45] <steve555> Hi Iulian | |
| [12:46] <steve555> Where are you from? | |
| [12:54] <steve555> I did have an annoying problem over the last few days.I'm running Kubuntu Hardy Heron,over the last week,after about an hour of booting into Kubuntu,the whole desktop used to completely freeze-up!it would take a few re-sets to get it going again.So I investigated inside my P.C suspecting it was my Graphics Card.I took my Graphics Card out of it's slot,blew as much dust as I could from it's fan,and made sure it was se | |
| [12:54] <steve555> curely seated in it's AGP slot and started up again.So far my computer hasn't froze since :) | |
| [12:58] <james_w> hi Iulian, congratulations on becoming a member. | |
| [13:02] <Iulian> Hello james, thank you. | |
| [13:02] <Iulian> Hey pedro | |
| [13:02] * Iulian - lunch! | |
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| [15:25] <bddebian> Boo | |
| [15:26] <jpds> !gary | |
| [15:26] <ubottu> be afraid, be *very* afraid | |
| [15:26] <bddebian> :) | |
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| [15:43] <afflux> hi | |
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| [17:10] <jcastro> stgraber: I'm going to start posting to the brainstorm blog starting today | |
| [17:11] <jcastro> stgraber: I figure one developer response every few days, since some are rather large | |
| [17:12] <stgraber> jcastro: ok | |
| [17:37] <tzd> I was wondering if it's possible to suggest a "fix" for the Firefox3 packet? I'm on kubuntu and i've noticed a few other kubuntu users have this issue: greyed out default application for extensions box in FF | |
| [17:39] <tzd> the fix one guy suggested in a forum solved my issue and probably a lot of others as well. By installing the packet "firefox3-0-gnome-support" it worked like a charm. I was wondering if it's possible to have that automatically included when choosing to install the Firefox3 packet please? | |
| [17:40] <Hewus> tzd: you can file bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug , but check first that it hasn't already been reported | |
| [17:40] <tzd> Hewus: ah ok, thanks! | |
| [17:40] <Hewus> tzd: no worries, thank you for helping! | |
| [17:41] <Hewus> bug #37272 documents an old bug fixed in gparted, but "new" in xfsprogs. I suspect the bug didn't apply to this package in the first place; is it safe to just mark it invalid, or should I still ask for info and mark it incomplete? | |
| [17:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 37272 in gparted "gparted segfaults on access to XFS volume on LVM" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37272 | |
| [17:41] <ubot3> Malone bug 37272 in gparted "gparted segfaults on access to XFS volume on LVM" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37272 | |
| [17:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 37272 in gparted "gparted segfaults on access to XFS volume on LVM" [Medium,Fix released] | |
| [17:42] <Hewus> whoa, bot fight | |
| [17:44] <bdmurray> tzd: firefox-3.0-gnome-support is suggested by firefox-3.0. How did you install? | |
| [17:44] <tzd> bdmurray: i right clicked on Firefox-3.0 in adept and choose install... it only adds that packet | |
| [17:45] <bdmurray> hmm, that might be a feature of adept | |
| [17:45] <tzd> bdmurray: ah ok... so if i do it via apt-get i'll get the gnome support included? | |
| [17:46] <bdmurray> tzd: no, you'd need to use aptitude, update-manager or maybe synaptic | |
| [17:46] <bdmurray> mvo_: can you help here? | |
| [17:47] <tzd> bdmurray: ok, although since it won't work with adept i should still file a bug report right? | |
| [17:47] <bdmurray> tzd: I don't belive so not every package manager installs "Suggested" packages | |
| [17:48] <mvo_> tzd: none of the package managers install suggests by default | |
| [17:49] <\sh> that's what I thought right away when I saw this discussion..recommends yes (aptitude) but not suggests | |
| [17:49] <mvo_> personally I think that firefox should depend on fierfox-3.0 and gnome-support and for people who do not want this, they should just install firefox-3.0 | |
| [17:49] <mvo_> but that is a decision of the package maintainer of ff | |
| [17:49] <tzd> bdmurray: adept usually installs required packages... don't know if there's a difference in handling "required" or "suggested" but shouldn't this gnome support be included since it won't work properly without it? Or does it interfere in some other way perhaps? | |
| [17:49] <mvo_> \sh: yep | |
| [17:50] <\sh> if adept is installing suggests, it's a bug | |
| [17:50] <mvo_> tzd: I'm pretty sure its only "suggests" because some people think they should be able to get ff without the gnome libs it pulls in | |
| [17:51] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: suggests ahve never been installed by default... | |
| [17:51] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: that being said, i don't think adept currently supports recommended packages being installed by default. | |
| [17:51] <tzd> mvo_: hmm ok. Oh well, I'll leave it then. | |
| [17:52] <bdmurray> mvo_: Is there a table somewhere of package managers and how they deal with recommended / suggested? | |
| [17:52] <mvo_> tzd: just open a whishlist bug so that it becomes a recommends. we install those by default now in intrepid | |
| [17:52] <mvo_> bdmurray: in intrepid it should be all consistent again "recommends-by-default" by everything, suggests by nothing | |
| [17:52] <tzd> mvo_: ah ok. Can i do it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug#form-start ? | |
| [17:53] <mvo_> bdmurray: in hardy it was "recommends-by-default: aptitude", "recommends-by-default for everything else only for packages in the section "metapackages" | |
| [17:53] <\sh> bdmurray, if i'm correct: aptitude == recommends by default, no suggests, apt-get == no recommends (for hardy and before), no suggests, for intrepid recommends by default | |
| [17:53] <bdmurray> mvo_: okay, thanks | |
| [17:53] <mvo_> tzd: that sounds right, please check if this bug is not reported already and please also add a bit of information what functionatlity is misisng without -gnome-support | |
| [17:54] <tzd> mvo_: yeah will do. Haven't found any similar though | |
| [17:54] <mvo_> bdmurray: it was a bit inconsistent in the past, mostly for historical reasons, but its all good now (I hope :) | |
| [18:01] <jcastro> stgraber: If an ubuntu developer wants access so they can post under the developer comments I should send them to you guys? | |
| [18:04] <stgraber> jcastro: yep | |
| [18:04] <stgraber> (until we have Launchpad integration done) | |
| [18:06] <jcastro> ok | |
| [18:10] <tzd> mvo_: ok I've filled it out, although i can't see any alternative to change it to "wishlist" ? | |
| [18:11] <tzd> shall i just add that to the title perhaps? | |
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| [18:15] <bdmurray> tzd: I can set it to wishlist for you what bug number is it? | |
| [18:16] <tzd> bdmurray: cool, I'll just post it :) | |
| [18:18] <tzd> bdmurray: #236850 | |
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| [18:57] <amikrop> Hello. Any progress with the Change Keyboard Layout bug? | |
| [18:57] <amikrop> I think it is quite serious. | |
| [19:43] <mattik> Hello, my kubuntu-kde4 was cracked | |
| [19:43] <mattik> and it wasupdated | |
| [19:44] <hggdh> mattik: what do you mean by "was cracked"? | |
| [19:44] <mattik> there is usename named in zenoss in /home-folder | |
| [19:45] <hggdh> mattik: you mean you now have a new user in /home, and you did not create it? | |
| [19:45] <mattik> I had hole in my firewall, but I hadn't installed ssh | |
| [19:46] <mattik> it was in 22-port | |
| [19:46] <mattik> Yes, I mean | |
| [19:47] <mattik> You can scan my ports now. I'm in windows | |
| [19:47] <hggdh> mattik: we will *not* scan you | |
| [19:47] <mattik> ok | |
| [19:48] <hggdh> mattik: what version of Ubuntu are you running? | |
| [19:48] <mattik> Hardy, and kde4 | |
| [19:48] <hggdh> mattik: is this your personal computer? | |
| [19:48] <mattik> yes it is | |
| [19:49] <mattik> Inform I cert.fi? | |
| [19:49] <hggdh> mattik: perhaps, if you can gather more data | |
| [19:50] <mattik> hggdh, where can I paste screenshot on zenoss home-folder? | |
| [19:51] <hggdh> mattik: use pastebin services, for example http://pastebin.ca | |
| [19:51] <mattik> thank you | |
| [19:51] <hggdh> and then post the URL | |
| [19:54] <hggdh> mattik: did you install zenoss packages (http://www.zenoss.com) | |
| [19:54] <mattik> oh yes | |
| [19:54] <mattik> sorry | |
| [19:55] <mattik> I wondered how I have heared it :D I'm really sorry | |
| [19:56] <mattik> That's good to hear | |
| [19:56] <mattik> I didn't become cracked | |
| [19:57] <afflux> mattik: in general, you can't get cracked by just having a port "not blocked" in any firewall, unless you really have a service running on it. | |
| [19:58] <mattik> ok, but I don't trust browsers | |
| [19:58] <hggdh> mattik: probably not... but it is a good lesson to keep in mind | |
| [19:58] <mattik> ok, thanks | |
| [19:59] <hggdh> mattik: you need code running on your computer to be owned. | |
| [19:59] <mattik> ok, thanks. This is good to hear | |
| [20:00] <mattik> So I don't need firewall on kubuntu | |
| [20:01] <hggdh> mattik: you should have a firewall, and a paranoid view | |
| [20:02] <mattik> hggdh: what is firewall for kubuntu? Is it firestarter? | |
| [20:02] <mattik> I have router's firewall | |
| [20:09] <mattik> thank you :) I'm glad that you don't laugh me out | |
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| [20:48] <jcastro> stgraber: what do you think about a "wontfix"-style resolution for brainstorm? | |
| [20:48] <jcastro> something like "thanks but the idea, but this won't be implemented." | |
| [20:50] <stgraber> jcastro: indeed, I'm not 100% sure of the point of having "Inaplicable" as for me it'd then be wontfix, deleted or not an idea | |
| [20:50] <stgraber> jcastro: btw, you should join #ubuntu-testing so you can also speak with Nicolas | |
| [20:50] <hggdh> jcastro: just out of curiosity -- an explanation of why it "won't be fixed" will be provided, right? | |
| [20:51] <jcastro> hggdh: well yes, of course. | |
| [20:51] <stgraber> hggdh: a developer comment would be added then yes | |
| [20:51] <hggdh> good idea, then | |
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| [21:41] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/235889 somebody check plz :) | |
| [21:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 235889 in linux "BUG: scheduling while atomic: archhttp64/7146/0x1000000001" [Undecided,New] | |
| [21:41] <ubot3> Malone bug 235889 in linux "BUG: scheduling while atomic: archhttp64/7146/0x1000000001" [Undecided,New] | |
| [21:42] <jpds> hmm, two bots | |
| [21:42] <dupondje> seems so :P | |
| [21:44] <dupondje> anyway ? can check ? | |
| [21:44] <dupondje> :) | |
| [21:47] <ogasawara> dupondje: I'll take a look | |
| [21:47] <dupondje> thx ogasawara :) | |
| [21:48] <ogasawara> dupondje: I think the kernel team recently rebased the Intrepid kernel with 2.6.24-rc4 | |
| [21:48] <ogasawara> dupondje: so I may have you test when it's available | |
| [21:48] <dupondje> but then I have to upgrade to Intrepid ? | |
| [21:48] <ogasawara> dupondje: not really, I've got instructions for testing from the kernel-ppa | |
| [21:49] <dupondje> isn't it possible to patch it in the Hardy kernel ? | |
| [21:49] <ogasawara> dupondje: if we can narrow down the exact patch | |
| [21:49] <dupondje> I can try some patches ... | |
| [21:50] <dupondje> from diffs of the 2 kernels ... | |
| [21:50] <ogasawara> dupondje: do you have an idea which patches to test? | |
| [21:50] <dupondje> but what file would be important ? :) | |
| [21:50] <ogasawara> dupondje: might be easier doing a git bisect | |
| [21:50] <ogasawara> dupondje: if you're familiar with performing one | |
| [21:51] <dupondje> I tried to patch the scheduler with the 2.6.26-rc4 diff :p | |
| [21:51] <dupondje> but didn't fix it | |
| [21:53] <dupondje> the BUG message is printed from scheduler.c right ? | |
| [21:53] <dupondje> but what triggers it ? :) | |
| [21:54] <ogasawara> dupondje: I'll post some info to the report just in case others running into the same bug might benefit | |
| [21:54] <dupondje> okie :D | |
| [21:54] <dupondje> will try it this weekend ... cause the pc is not here :) | |
| [21:54] <ogasawara> dupondje: ok thanks | |
| [21:55] <dupondje> I need to thank you :) | |
| [22:02] <ogasawara> dupondje: just curious when you tested the upstream 2.6.26-rc4 kernel did you use an ubuntu kernel config to build the kernel? | |
| [22:03] <dupondje> yes | |
| [22:03] <dupondje> just copyed it ;) | |
| [22:03] <ogasawara> dupondje: great thanks | |
| [22:03] <dupondje> and made a .deb from it | |
| [22:03] <dupondje> with make-kpkg ? | |
| [22:03] <dupondje> :) | |
| [22:10] <emgent> heya | |
| [22:28] * dupondje reads | |
| [22:28] <dupondje> :P | |
| [22:34] <dupondje> thx for instructions | |
| [22:35] <dupondje> i'll try this weekend ... | |