2008/06/01/#xubuntu.txt

[00:04] <aanderse> suRs: same sort of solution as cursor i imagine
[00:04] <aanderse> you're looking for .themes instead of .icons, though
[00:04] <aanderse> :)
[00:04] <aanderse> sorry we're cooking dinner here, bbiab
[00:06] <Tipper__> aanderse:  brb trying xubuntu again
[00:08] <suRs> well
[00:08] <suRs> do you know how to install splash screen?
[00:10] <douglas> hey
[00:10] <douglas> i have an internal mic and im on xubuntu
[00:10] <douglas> my mic isnt working
[00:10] <douglas> any ideas
[00:15] <siggjen> did you try to unmute it?
[00:16] <douglas> yes
[00:16] <douglas> all the mixers are set to full blast
[00:16] <suRs> any one have an idea were i should extract my file for splash  screen?
[00:17] <siggjen> did you tick mic boost as well?
[00:17] <douglas> yes
[00:18] <siggjen> if the mic is turned on as well i have few ideas
[00:18] <siggjen> maybe you're in the wrong mixer
[00:18] <douglas> there is only the one mixer
[00:18] <siggjen> and that's the right one?
[00:19] <douglas> yes
[00:19] <siggjen> sometimes usb devices get known as soundcards and can steal it
[00:19] <siggjen> well i am too tired to think anyway
[00:19] <douglas> im trying an external ]mic
[00:19] <siggjen> good night and luck
[00:20] <suRs> anyone?
[00:20] <suRs> help me?
[00:21] <siggjen> suRs: i believe google cqan help you there
[00:21] <suRs> you belive?
[00:22] <suRs> well i can try :)
[00:24] <douglas> siggjen: :s
[00:24] <douglas> nothing is working
[00:26] <aanderse> suRs: ?
[00:27] <suRs> hello aanderse :)
[00:27] <suRs> ur from sweden?
[00:27] <aanderse> no
[00:27] <douglas> hmhm
[00:27] <douglas> siggjen: when i open kmix, i turn digital all the way up and close it
[00:27] <douglas> then it resets
[00:28] <aanderse> wait why am i from sweden?
[00:28] <suRs> couse you sound like anders :D
[00:28] <suRs> and its a swedish name ^
[00:28] <aanderse> ah
[00:29] <aanderse> ok so did you extract the .tar.gz to .themes directory?
[00:29] <Tipper_> aanderse: you there?
[00:29] <aanderse> Tipper_: whats up?
[00:29] <Tipper_> still there
[00:30] <aanderse> kinda
[00:30] <suRs> yeah i got the crusor but i didnt whant it  whanted the texing ..
[00:30] <Tipper_> I deleted any existence of xunbuntu and its still there
[00:31] <Tipper_> the problem
[00:32] <aanderse> hmm
[00:32] <aanderse> ok... dinner, bbiab again
[00:36] <Tipper_> can anybody else help me?
[00:36] <zoredache> what is your problem...
[00:37] <Tipper_> I get a screen when I start up
[00:37] <Tipper_> it's like icebox or somthing
[00:38] <TheSheep> Tipper_: before the system starts loading?
[00:38] <Tipper_> no after
[00:38] <Tipper_> BusyBox V1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-inshell (ash)
[00:39] <Tipper_> it says that
[00:39] <TheSheep> this means that the kernel started but it couldn't find tthe init scripts
[00:40] <TheSheep> that is, it couldn't find any files from your xubuntu installation
[00:40] <Tipper_> when I reinstall it its still not there
[00:40] <Tipper_> it is still there*
[00:42] <zoredache> Tipper_: so are you trying to completely get rid of linux?  Or what?
[00:42] <Tipper_> I am trying to get it to work
[00:45] <Tipper_> zoredache, TheSheep: help?
[00:52] <zoredache> Tipper_: instead of repeatedly asking for help why don't you take time and try and provide more details about what you have tried and what your symtops are
[00:54] <suRs> tripper look forums allso
[00:54] <suRs> and seartch for google :D
[00:54] <Tipper_> I searched google 4 results
[00:54] <Tipper_> one on the chinese or somthing xubuntu forum
[00:55] <Tipper_> zore darche I was following a guide for installing wireless
[00:55] <Tipper_> zoredache*
[01:01] <suRs> hmm
[01:01] <suRs> were do i install my GDM theme?
[01:04] <suRs> nvm found t
[01:22] <suRs> how do i remove the ubuntu loading screen ? in the beggning
[01:34] <Tipper_> http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1176/img0563zu4.jpg
[01:37] <Tipper_> aanderse:
[01:39] <Tipper_> TheSheep^
[01:48] <Tipper__> http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1176/img0563zu4.jpg
[02:00] <Tipper___> aanderse: you there?
[02:01] <Tipper___> anybody here?
[02:04] <kingair_six> hello, I got some trouble with emerald on xubutnu hardy. I have compiz, compiz fusion and all the dependencies installed, but when i click on the theme in emerald, it does not get adapted. do I need to make some further changes?
[02:07] <node_6> hey all
[02:08] <node_6> I just updated to 8.04.  Everything went fine during install.  When I restarted, my wireless did not connect
[02:08] <node_6> help please :)
[02:10] <kingair_six> go to linuxwireless.org and download their set of drivers, works pretty well for most stuff it seems
[02:10] <kingair_six> do you have a broadcast chipset? in that case you may need firmware
[02:11] <node_6> atheros
[02:11] <node_6> it worked really well on 7.10
[02:13] <kingair_six> alright, i'm on atheros  i think, the athk driver is the newest from madwifi, and its pretty awesome, as I said above, just go for the complete set of drivers from linuxwireless.org
[02:13] <Tipper___> help please
[02:13] <Tipper___> irc://freenode/%23xbuntu
[02:13] <kingair_six> wait, actually, before installing, check whether your device is supported, a list of supported devices is also on their siet
[02:13] <Tipper___> http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0563zu4.jpg
[02:13] <Tipper___> help^^
[02:15] <node_6> ty kingair_six.  reading
[02:15] <kingair_six> your welcome
[02:17] <Tipper___> help anyone?
[02:19] <kingair_six> @tipper: how about you post your problem again?
[02:20] <Tipper___> http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0563zu4.jpg
[04:57] <yaris12346789_> when i run xubuntu thers a option to dual boot with vista....has anyone tried this it says it will reduce disk perforamnce......
[05:23] <Tipper_______> help
[05:23] <Tipper_______> how do I find out the directory of somthing
[05:23] <Tipper_______> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[05:24] <Tipper_______> I'm trying to find out which directory Ndiswrapper is in
[05:40] <XwarlokX82> hey ya'll i've got an issue at hand with 8.04. When i try to install it, the installer will always freeze at 5% when trying to write the partitions to my drive, i've checked both cds i've burned (alternate and live cd) ran md5sum on both isos i downloaded, etc...am i looking at some time of drive issue here?
[05:48] <node_6> Tipper_______:   man which
[05:48] <node_6> nite all :)
=== XwarlokX82 is now known as X|Sleepin
[06:32] <chris__420> any body in here use nmap?
[06:36] <chris__420> damn im glad you all don't represnet the good ness of xfce.... lol
[06:54] <yaris12346789> hello guys i just installed xubuntu, and networking does not work....before during install it said it could not find dcp or something like that....please help
[07:16] <siggjen> yaris12346789: which network interface card do you got in your computer?
=== zoredache_ is now known as zoredache
[08:04] <DaveKong> Does anyone know how to turn out the internal speaker on your computer?
[08:09] <cody-somerville> one sec
[08:11] <cody-somerville> DaveKong, a quick google search returned this article: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/07/17/disable-your-internal-speakers-beep-in-linux/
[08:12] <DaveKong> thanks cody-somerville
[08:56] <balachmar> Hi, I have turned off the screensaver, but still my screen goed black after a certain period. How can I turn this off? I cannot seem to find the setting in xfce...
[09:05] <cody-somerville> balachmar, install gnome-power-manager
[09:41] <suRs> hello everyone
[10:09] <suRs> anyone here?
[11:42] <cody-somerville> PriceChild, thanks.
[11:42] <cody-somerville> Myrtti, thanks too :)
[11:42] <Myrtti> np
[11:43] <Myrtti> I'm sorry I didn't think of contacting IRSeek directly with their contact form like Pricey did
[11:43] <Myrtti> oh well, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed today
[12:23] <suRs> hello
[12:25] <David-A> hello ack
[12:26] <Odd-rationale> suRs: hello!
[12:26] <cody-somerville> Hello folks
[12:27] <suRs> hay odd! :D
[12:27] <suRs> and cody :D
[12:27] <cody-somerville> :)
[12:27] <suRs> today boys i will need ur help
[12:27]  * cody-somerville grins.
[12:28] <Odd-rationale> suRs: what happened?
[12:28] <cody-somerville> doh.
[12:28] <cody-somerville> suRs, welcome back :)
[12:28] <suRs> hehe sorry i shouted down xchatt
[12:28] <suRs> wrong buttom well i  will need ur help
[12:28] <suRs> with somting easy i think
[12:28] <Odd-rationale> suRs: what happened?
[12:28] <cody-somerville> suRs, shoot :)
[12:29] <suRs> well i whant
[12:29] <suRs> system montior
[12:29] <suRs> on my right side of the screen and i whant it to be just plain text
[12:29] <TheSheep> suRs: check out conky
[12:29] <suRs> what is that?
[12:29] <cody-somerville> !info conky
[12:29] <TheSheep> suRs: a program that displays various info on your desktop, as plain text
[12:29] <Odd-rationale> suRs: yeah, conky or grekm (sp?) may be what you want
[12:29] <suRs> how do i download  it?
[12:30] <TheSheep> suRs: with synaptic
[12:30] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, can you test xubuntu-docs in hardy-proposed?
[12:31] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: I'm no good with docbook
[12:31] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: I tried to get into it several times, but it's too complicated for me
[12:31] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, you just need to make sure the package installs and translations are present :)
[12:32] <cody-somerville> bug #162403
[12:33] <suRs> i installed it now
[12:33] <Myrtti> bug 162403
[12:33] <Myrtti> hmm, no bot.
[12:33] <Myrtti> right.
[12:33] <suRs> hi myrrti
[12:33] <Myrtti> hi suRs
[12:34] <suRs> so odd after install what do i do next?
[12:34] <TheSheep> No results for search #162403
[12:34] <cody-somerville> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/162403
[12:35] <Odd-rationale> suRs: you google "how to configure conky" ;)
[12:35] <suRs> alright
[12:36] <cody-somerville> Odd-rationale, :P
[12:36] <cody-somerville> suRs, http://conky.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[12:36] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: I still don't understand what am I supposed to do?
[12:37] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, I have uploaded a new version of xubuntu-docs to hardy-proposed
[12:37] <cody-somerville> It needs to be tested before it can be moved to hardy-updates
[12:37] <cody-somerville> To test it, you simply need to install the version from hardy-proposed
[12:39] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: and then?
[12:39] <suRs> i need to get a script?
[12:39] <suRs> do i need to make a map named .conky? in /home/suey?
[12:39] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, If you could check to see if translations are installed correctly, that would be great.
[12:40] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: how?
[12:41] <TheSheep> there are only changelog.gz  copyright
[12:41] <Odd-rationale> suRs: yes, you need a config file in ~/.conky
[12:41] <TheSheep> in /usr/share/docs/xubuntu-docs
[12:42] <Odd-rationale> anyways, i'm going to see if i can catch a few more moments of sleep...
[12:42] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: the files in /usr/share/xubuntu-docs/pl are English
[12:43] <suRs> yeah i found it
[12:43] <suRs> shall i make a map named .conky?
[12:43] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, thats probably because no one translated it into pl
[12:44] <TheSheep> lazy bums :P
[12:44] <suRs> how do i create te folder?
[12:44] <suRs> i cant just right klick and create one do i have do make by terminal?
[12:45] <TheSheep> suRs: you right-click and select the very first option that says 'Create folder...'
[12:45] <suRs> mm i cant..
[12:45] <TheSheep> suRs: what stops you?
[12:45] <suRs> nothing its just black i can klick it
[12:46] <TheSheep> suRs: you're not talking about thunar?
[12:46] <suRs> im talking about conky
[12:46] <TheSheep> maybe you should use thunar to create folders
[12:46] <suRs> in usr/share/doc/xubuntudoc/ <-- i can create a map
[12:47] <suRs> cant*
[12:47] <suRs> it wont let me  create a map or i cant even copy one in there
[12:47] <suRs> folder
[12:47] <TheSheep> that's because you are a normal user and that directory is a system one, you don't have write permissions there
[12:48] <TheSheep> suRs: you can start thunar as root, but careful with that: gksu thunar
[12:48] <Odd-rationale> suRs: what are you trying to do? create a .conky file in your home directory?
[12:49] <suRs> well you told me to create a .conky in usr/share/doc/xubuntudoc/  right?
[12:49] <Odd-rationale> no...
[12:49] <suRs> were i should put the config file later?
[12:49] <TheSheep> suRs: no, I was talking to cody-somerville
[12:50] <suRs> hmm im confused :S
[12:50] <suRs> were should i crete the .conky?
[12:50] <Odd-rationale> suRs: probably in ~/
[12:50] <TheSheep> suRs: ignore everything I said then, it wasn't to you :)
[12:50] <suRs> odd were is that?
[12:50] <suRs> home?
[12:51] <cody-somerville> suRs, http://conky.sourceforge.net/docs.html
[12:51] <Odd-rationale> suRs: /home/<username>
[12:51] <suRs> okej thanks
[12:51] <suRs> where the .theme and .icons are
[12:51] <suRs> :p
[12:51] <cody-somerville> suRs, In your home directory as .conkyrc
[12:52] <suRs> done
[12:52] <Odd-rationale> suRs: do this: $ zcat /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz > ~/.conkyrc
[12:52] <Odd-rationale> whoops
[12:52] <Odd-rationale> suRs: do this: "zcat /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz > ~/.conkyrc"
[12:52] <suRs> i have alredy made the .conky in my home directory
[12:52] <Odd-rationale> whithout the quotes
[12:53] <Odd-rationale> i know. do it anyways...
[12:53] <suRs> oki
[12:53] <cody-somerville> suRs, Did you not look at the link I gave you? :)
[12:53] <cody-somerville> suRs, It gives you very clear instructions.
[12:53] <Odd-rationale> i never cared much for conky myself...
[12:53] <suRs> well i didnt have time xD
[12:53] <suRs> im doing it now
[12:54] <poopuser> hi. moved home on separate partition and now xface is whining about .dmrc need to have 644 permission (or something) and it says that home should be owned only by user and only user can have privilages.so what do i need to do with .dmrc and what 'options' i need to set in fstab for home partition?
[12:54] <TheSheep> chmod 644 .dmrc
[12:54] <poopuser> thx and about fstab?
[12:55] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, can you report your success on that bug?
[12:55] <Odd-rationale> suRs: did you do the command yet?
[12:55] <suRs> gzip: /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz: No such file or directory
[12:55] <suRs> yah i got this
[12:57] <Odd-rationale> :( too bad. looks like you'll have to make your own from scratch...
[12:57] <Odd-rationale> read the docs...
[12:57] <Odd-rationale> there are endless ways to configure conky...
[13:04] <suRs> hay odd
[13:04] <suRs> if i dont have section "module" can i make one ?
[13:07] <suRs> like this
[13:07] <suRs> couse i  didnt find the section module i did this
[13:07] <suRs> Section "Module"
[13:07] <suRs>          Load            "dbe"
[13:07] <suRs> EndSection
[13:07] <suRs> i created my own is that possible?
[13:07] <suRs> in sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:08] <TheSheep> suRs: yes
[13:09] <suRs> kubuntu and xubuntu are amost the samme=
[13:09] <suRs> ?
[13:09] <suRs> right?
[13:10] <cody-somerville> suRs, no.
[13:10] <cody-somerville> Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop environment.
[13:11] <suRs> alright
[13:11] <cody-somerville> :)
[13:17] <suRs> thay whant me to make an autostart app for conky
[13:17] <suRs> to write chmod a+x .conky_start.sh
[13:17] <suRs> but were should i put that in description or in name or in termal?
[13:18] <TheSheep> terminal
[13:18] <X|Sleepin> hey ya'll i've got an issue at hand with 8.04. When i try to install it, the installer will always freeze at 5% when trying to write the partitions to my drive, i've checked both cds i've burned (alternate and live cd) ran md5sum on both isos i downloaded, etc...am i looking at some time of drive issue here?
=== X|Sleepin is now known as XwarlokX82
[13:30] <suRs> well i got conky to work
[13:30] <suRs> but i wonder how i change colours for it
[13:30] <suRs> and if i can move it a bit
[13:31] <poopuser> guyz how can i drop to bash shell (alt crl f1 in genome)?
[13:34] <cody-somerville> suRs, I'm sure you can. Just read the documentation I sent you :)
[13:34] <suRs> haha :p
[13:34] <cody-somerville> poopuser, same way
[13:34] <suRs> damn i hate to read :p
[13:34] <cody-somerville> suRs, there is also a #conky channel
[13:35] <poopuser> cody-somerville; not on my pc
[13:35] <poopuser> ; |
[13:35] <poopuser> thx anyway
[13:36] <cody-somerville> Then it sounds like a bug.
[13:36] <cody-somerville> I've heard other people report similar difficulties.
[13:37] <siggjen> if you got a keyboard with different sets of funktion key sets it might be you have to activate the usual funktion keys
[13:39] <poopuser> siggjen:i am not sure but my keyset seems defoult
[13:39] <siggjen> you can try with and without funktion keyset
[13:40] <poopuser> ok so...how do i do it(yes newb)?
[13:41] <siggjen> i usually hit the F or function key on my keyboard, not all keybards has these extra keysets tho
[13:42] <siggjen> i believe most don't d:
[13:42] <poopuser> yes.lucky man ; P
[13:44] <poopuser> ok i am hedding back to fight half-assed 'move-home-to-separate-drive' attempt
[13:44] <poopuser> bye
[13:56] <suRs> odd
[13:56] <suRs> i need help
[13:58] <XwarlokX82> hey ya'll i've got an issue at hand with 8.04. When i try to install it, the installer will always freeze at 5% when trying to write the partitions to my drive, i've checked both cds i've burned (alternate and live cd) ran md5sum on both isos i downloaded, etc...am i looking at some time of drive issue here?
[13:58] <saaa> it's odd that you need help?
[13:58] <cody-somerville> suRs, Please just ask your question.
[13:58] <suRs> alright
[13:58] <cody-somerville> XwarlokX82, weird :/
[13:58] <XwarlokX82> cody-somerville, very...and ive been puzzling over it for two weeks now.
[13:59] <cody-somerville> XwarlokX82, This is with the alternative or desktop cd?
[13:59] <suRs> http://conky.sourceforge.net/docs.html
[13:59] <XwarlokX82> cody-somerville, the alternate cd and the live cd
[13:59] <suRs> look here and thay ask somting about ./configure
[13:59] <suRs> but i dont have it
[14:00] <saaa> you don't have ./configure? its a script
[14:00] <saaa> coming with the source
[14:00] <cody-somerville> suRs, Correct.
[14:00] <cody-somerville> suRs, Please don't just run commands you see.
[14:00] <suRs> hm
[14:01] <suRs> ur all mean :/
[14:01] <cody-somerville> suRs, There is no need for you to run ./configure as conky is already compiled and installed for you.
[14:01] <cody-somerville> suRs, mean?! :(
[14:01] <saaa> :D
[14:01] <saaa> ur cute :p
[14:01] <suRs> yeah but i whant to change stuff like
[14:01] <suRs> colour and posiotion
[14:01] <saaa> suRs ur a girl? :p
[14:02] <suRs> yes
[14:02] <suRs> so stop whining about me beeing a bit slow!
[14:02] <cody-somerville> suRs, Those are changed in the config file.
[14:02] <cody-somerville> Look at the "Configuration Settings" section.
[14:02] <suRs> aaaaa
[14:03] <suRs> how do i load it?
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> sorry, suRs, i fell back asleep.. i would love to help you, but i got to be heading out soon. Good luck!
[14:03] <suRs> bye odd :D
[14:03] <suRs> thanks for ur help :D
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> cody-somerville is good at these stuff himself...
[14:04] <suRs> cody im in my .conkyrc file were i can see all texts
[14:04] <suRs> is it there you mean or ?
[14:05] <cody-somerville> suRs, As the document states: An easy way to force Conky to reload your ~/.conkyrc: "killall -SIGUSR1 conky". Saves you the trouble of having to kill and then restart. You can now also do the same with SIGHUP.
[14:06] <suRs> hm
[14:06] <suRs> okej
[14:13] <suRs> i get it now i can config it how i whant
[14:13] <suRs> i think.
[14:14] <suRs> but when i whant to add things i have to do it my own?
[14:14] <suRs> and configure it my own?
[14:15] <cody-somerville> Yes.
[14:15] <cody-somerville> If that is too difficult, you might try gdesklets or something like that
[14:18] <suRs> well i probbly should steel some ones els :p
[14:20] <Odd-rationale> suRs: you might find this helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[14:21] <Odd-rationale> suRs: before i REALLY go, just wanted to let you to feel free to PM me or drop me a line in #Odd-rationale
[14:21] <Odd-rationale> ok. really going now...
[14:21] <suRs> yeah sure odd :d i see you later XD
[14:21] <suRs> hehe thanks fo help and hugs
[14:51] <suRs> join #conky
=== gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak
[15:30] <Valsum> Hello!
[15:31] <cody-somerville> Hello
[15:32] <Valsum> Hi Cody.
[15:39] <suRs> how do i check if my network is working propper?
[15:50] <suRs> anyone know were the weather folder is?
[15:52] <TheSheep> what is a "weather folder"?
[15:55] <Zartla> TheSheep: I got it btw :P
[15:55] <Valsum> no idea suRs
[15:55] <TheSheep> Zartla: rhythm?
[15:56] <Zartla> no I got xubuntu to work it was dead :P
=== Zartla is now known as Tipper
[16:00] <Tipper> how do I install wine?
[16:02] <TheSheep> Tipper: with synaptic
[16:03] <Tipper> the add or remove applications thing?
[16:04] <vidd> Tipper, you can use the command prompt as well....
[16:04] <TheSheep> Tipper: no, the synaptic package manager
[16:04] <vidd> easiest way....
[16:04] <vidd> <ctrl><F2>
[16:04] <vidd> type "symantic"
[16:04] <vidd> hit <enter>
[16:05] <vidd> make that synaptic
[16:06] <TheSheep> vidd: that won't work
[16:06] <TheSheep> vidd: at least not with default xubuntu settings
[16:06] <Tipper> it didn;t :P
[16:06] <Valsum> it's ALT+F2 here
[16:07] <Valsum> :P
[16:07] <Valsum> anyway, bye
[16:07] <vidd> grrr
[16:07] <vidd> my bad
[16:07] <TheSheep> vidd:  :-*
[16:07] <Tipper> I got it open now what?
[16:07] <TheSheep> Tipper: now click on 'search' and type 'wine' in there
[16:07] <vidd> my appologies....it si "alt"not "ctrl"
[16:08] <Tipper> Didn't see the search thing :P
[16:08] <suRs> anyone know were i can find weater map?
[16:08] <vidd> Tipper, enter synaptic in the "run" program?
[16:08] <Tipper> vidd I'm ahead of you now :P
[16:09] <vidd> ok...good
[16:09] <Tipper> it is queued to install now how do I start it?
[16:09] <TheSheep> Tipper: the first icon from the left
[16:09]  * vidd installs via command line =]
[16:10] <Tipper> reload? or mark all upgrades?
[16:10] <TheSheep> Tipper: sorry, third
[16:10] <suRs> so
[16:10] <TheSheep> Tipper: they should be all labeled in your native language, btw
[16:10] <Tipper> I can't click it
[16:10] <suRs> anyone know were local weather is?
[16:11] <Tipper> is it because I am downloading pacages from add/remove applications?
[16:11] <TheSheep> suRs: google should find you quite a lot of various weather sites with maps and all
[16:11] <Tipper> packages*
[16:11] <TheSheep> Tipper: right-click o 'wine' and select 'mark for installation' first
[16:12] <suRs> thesheep but i alredy have one good in my xfce meny bar but i whant one in my conky system
[16:12] <Tipper> I did already sheep
[16:12] <TheSheep> Tipper: maybe it's already installed?
[16:13] <Tipper> it's highlited in green does that mean it is?
[16:13] <TheSheep> yes
[16:13] <Tipper> where will the app be located?
[16:14] <TheSheep> Tipper: it consists of many files located in various directories
[16:14] <Tipper> how do I run it?
[16:14] <TheSheep> Tipper: you can right click it in synaptic, select properties and see the list of all those files
[16:15] <TheSheep> Tipper: you start some .exe file
[16:15] <vidd> Tipper, once wine is installed, you just double-click on the .exe and it should launch
[16:16] <Tipper> It says it isn't installed uner properties
[16:16] <Tipper> under*
[16:16] <TheSheep> suRs: btw, there is a #conky channel
[16:17] <suRs> i know :) thanks thesheep
[16:18] <Tipper> Got installation
[16:21] <Tipper> TheSheep, vidd: got it thanks
[16:21] <Tipper> how do I install themes/
[16:21] <loading> hello
[16:21] <vidd> Tipper, i cant help with themes
[16:21] <vidd> never use them
[16:21] <Tipper> TheSheep: can you help?
[16:22] <loading> i'm search a dvd iso of xubuntu
[16:25] <thinkmassiv1> my wireless network icon has disappeared and it's not available in "Add Items to the Panel" so I'd like to know if anyone has a suggestion for getting it back
[16:26] <thinkmassiv1> I can still configure the connection using iwconfig and dhclient, but it would be nice to have a gui
[16:26] <thinkmassiv1> the real mystery is why it disappears in the first place
[16:28] <thinkmassiv1> I've tried rebooting and restarting X... sometimes the icon will appear and then, as soon as I select an access point, the icon "locks up" and disappears a few seconds later
[16:28] <Tipper> Wireless isn't in add items to panel
[16:28] <Tipper> go to settings manager
[16:29] <Tipper> then go to autostart applications
[16:29] <Tipper> then make sure network manager is checked
[16:31] <Tipper> and if the option isn't there click add
[16:32] <Tipper> then add network manager
[16:32] <thinkmassiv1> it is there and checked
[16:32] <Tipper> thinkmassiv1^^
[16:32] <thinkmassiv1> thanks Tipper
[16:32] <Tipper> your welcome :D
[16:32] <thinkmassiv1> that doesn't fix it though
[16:33] <Tipper> oh :P
[16:33] <Tipper> I tried
[16:33] <thinkmassiv1> so I guess the network manager app is dying
[16:33] <Tipper> I installed xubuntu yesterday so I can't be much of a help.
[16:33] <thinkmassiv1> your info helps--I didn't know where to find the app
[16:33] <Tipper> thinkmassiv1: was it unchecked?
=== vidd is now known as vidd_laptop
[16:34] <thinkmassiv1> nope, the weird thing is that it starts with X but then it dies when I try to connect to a wireless network
[16:35] <thinkmassiv1> hmm even when I start network-manager the icon doesn't re-appear
=== vidd_laptop is now known as vidd
[16:36] <Tipper> thinkmassiv1: if it was then restart and it should be there.
[16:37] <thinkmassiv1> I suppose I can try that again but it didn't work the last few times
[16:37] <loading> hello i'm search a dvd iso of xubuntu
[16:38] <thinkmassiv1> another peculiarity is that firefox is in offline mode until I deselect that option, which it usually does automatically when I connect to a network
[16:40] <Myrtti> hopping in in the middle of the convo
[16:40] <thinkmassiv1> oh nm-applet makes it appear
[16:40] <thinkmassiv1> hi Myrtti
[16:40] <Myrtti> thinkmassiv1: if you'd try more applications, they'd make the same, since they detect the online/offline from dbus or hal or what not
[16:41] <Myrtti> I've noticed the same when using gprs connection (basically dialup) since that doesn't show up in avahi
[16:41] <Myrtti> oh, yeah, and it's avahi that doesn't detect gprs
[16:41] <Myrtti> not dbus, hal
[16:42] <thinkmassiv1> ok, well that explains that issue
[16:42] <Myrtti> the same happens with pidgin, claws-mail, epiphany...
[16:42] <thinkmassiv1> now the applet is showing the "waiting for network key" icon
[16:42] <thinkmassiv1> but obviously I'm still connected
[16:42] <thinkmassiv1> ...unless you're all a figment of my computer's elaborate imagination
[16:43] <Myrtti> when I login, I have to tick the networking off for a while, and put it back on
[16:43] <thinkmassiv1> why is that?
[16:43] <peterajamesh> looking for help mounting a slave drive in xunbuntu, any one can help me with this
[16:43] <Myrtti> otherwise I'm doomed to go in (or actually, nm-applet) circles in waiting for a network key
[16:43] <Myrtti> on the second try it connects
[16:43] <Myrtti> peterajamesh: what kind of troubles are you having then?
=== XwarlokX82- is now known as XwarlokX82
[16:44] <Tipper> Myrtti: you know how to add themeas?
[16:44] <thinkmassiv1> ok, I'm going to try reinstalling the applet
[16:44] <Tipper> themes*
[16:44] <thinkmassiv1> thanks Myrtti
[16:45] <thinkmassiv1> btw, how do you disable the network connection using the applet?
[16:45] <peterajamesh> I can't get my 250 GB slave to mount, I tried sudo mount -t /dev/sdb1 /media/second
[16:45] <thinkmassiv1> nevermind I found it
[16:45] <peterajamesh> /dev/sdb1 is my slave, is where i wana mount it
[16:45] <Myrtti> Tipper: what kind of themes?
[16:46] <Tipper> xfce
[16:46] <Myrtti> I untar the packages to /usr/share/themes/, but ~/.themes/ is equally good place
[16:47] <Tipper> Myrtti:  /usr/share/themes/ is protected
[16:47] <Tipper> I can't add it there
[16:47] <Myrtti> Tipper: sudo magic
[16:47] <Tipper> what do I type?
[16:47] <Myrtti> untar to home dir, move to /usr/share/themes with sudo
[16:48] <Tipper> so just sudo usr/share/themes?
[16:49] <Myrtti> nope
[16:49] <Tipper> sudo cp /pathtodownloadedtheme/yourtheme.tar.gz /usr/share/themes
[16:49] <Myrtti> that first
[16:49] <Myrtti> then untar with sudo tar xvzf
[16:51] <Tipper> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16201/
[16:51] <Tipper> is that right?
[16:51] <Tipper> I've already unzipped
[16:53] <Myrtti> Tipper: let me walk thru it, which theme are you installing?
[16:54] <Tipper> test
[16:55] <Tipper> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+8.04%2BHardy+Heron+GTK?content=80141
[16:56] <Tipper> I renamed it test though because I can't extract it when it thinks it is a .04 file
[16:56] <Tipper> Myrtti^^
[16:57] <Myrtti> ok, so here we go
[16:57] <Myrtti> I've downloaded it to desktop
[16:57] <Tipper> ok
[17:00] <eustas> hello there. what can i do to fix Neverwinter Nights music problem - it sounds really terrible - distorted
[17:00] <Myrtti> Tipper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16202/
[17:01] <Tipper> wait so hat did you rename it?
[17:01] <Tipper> what*
[17:01] <Myrtti> I didn't
[17:02] <Tipper> it was just the orginal file?
[17:02] <Myrtti> jup
[17:02] <Tipper> btw I was installing the middle one
[17:02] <Tipper> emerald
[17:02] <Myrtti> I don't have emerald so I don't install it :-)
[17:03] <Tipper> Emerald?
[17:03] <Myrtti> you have to actively install emerald to have it
[17:03] <Myrtti> in xubuntu and in ubuntu too iirc
[17:04] <Tipper> oh I downloaded the wrong versoin :p
[17:11] <Tipper> Myrtti: the download won't start in firefox
[17:11] <Myrtti> :-o
[17:11] <Tipper> :(
[17:11] <Myrtti> you are trying to download to your home directory?
[17:12] <Tipper> I just clicked the download link
[17:14] <Tipper> how do I download inside the terminal?
[17:14] <Tipper> wget url?
[17:15] <Tipper> Myrtti ^^
[17:16] <Myrtti> yeah
[17:18] <Tipper> Myrtti: you downloaded to the desktop right?
[17:18] <Myrtti> yeah
[17:22] <Tipper> Myrtti: Whats the last command?
[17:22] <Tipper> paste it here, pastebin messes it up
[17:22] <Myrtti> the last command that is needed?
[17:22] <Myrtti> sudo mv
[17:22] <Myrtti> I ls'd just to see that stuff is in place and ok
[17:23] <Tipper> oh
[17:25] <Tipper> which one is the middle theme?
[17:26] <Tipper> Myrtti^
[17:26] <Myrtti> I've got no idea
[17:28] <Tipper> How do I get to the customize thme thing?
[17:28] <Tipper> theme*
[17:29] <Tipper>  Myrtti do you know?
[17:30] <Myrtti> nope
[17:30] <Myrtti> it says that you can change the colours with gtk-theme app which is in gnome, but I don't know if it affects the xfce side too
[17:31] <TheSheep> Tipper: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[17:31] <suRs> how do i take screen shoot on my screen?
[17:32] <Tipper> go to add new item to panel
[17:32] <TheSheep> suRs: with gimp, or you can add a panel plugin or install scrot and bind it to some key combination
[17:35] <suRs> alright thanks
[17:36] <Tipper> Myrtii, how do I use the hardy heron ubuntu theme: http://sandlot.info/?p=69
[17:40] <suRs> hm i isntalled scort but i cant see it xd
[17:41] <Myrtti> scrot is a commandline program
[17:41] <Myrtti> Tipper: hum, ok.
[17:42] <Tipper> ?
[17:42] <Myrtti> that's the wallpaper
[17:42] <suRs> so how do i take the picutre?
[17:42] <Tipper> Hardy heron thing
[17:42] <Tipper> it was the background I found when installing xubuntu
[17:44] <suRs> myrtti
[17:44] <suRs> you know how to use scor in commandline?
[17:45] <suRs> like take pictures on the desktop?
[17:46] <Myrtti> believe it or not, I do not know everything. type scrot --help or man scrot.
[17:46] <suRs> thanks
[17:47] <Tipper> Myrtti: where can I get the wallpaper and the theme
[17:48] <cody-somerville> Tipper, ubuntu-artwork package
[17:48] <Tipper> thanks
[17:52] <suRs> anyone know how scrot works?
[17:52] <cody-somerville> suRs, just use the panel plugin :)
[17:53] <Tipper> I installed the widget factory how do I run it?
[17:53] <suRs> panel plugin?
[17:53] <Myrtti> Tipper: what do you want to do with the widget factory?
[17:53] <cody-somerville> suRs, Right click the panel, click add
[17:54] <suRs> oh
[17:54] <suRs> yeah
[17:54] <suRs> saw it
[17:54] <Tipper> Change the colors of a theme.
[17:54] <Myrtti> Tipper: widget factory doesn't do that
[17:54] <Myrtti> IIRC
[17:54] <Tipper> oh :P
[17:54] <Tipper> what does that, what was the thing in the theme picture for hardy heron?
[17:56] <handjob> hi i have BIG problem.i set screen resolution too high in normal session i can't see anything.currently wrighting from terminal/failsafe.how can i fix it from here?help plz
[17:57] <handjob> anybody?i
[17:59] <handjob> is there anybody in here?
[18:01] <Tipper> I am but I can't help sorry
[18:01] <handjob> ; )
[18:01] <Tipper> I have no clue how, I can google it if you'd like
[18:01] <handjob> well i would be gratefull
[18:03] <Tipper> try using the command xrandr
[18:03] <Tipper> without parameters it gives you the supported resolutions, and you can set the resolution using:
[18:03] <Tipper> xrandr -s <resolution index from the resolutions list>
[18:03] <Tipper> or
[18:03] <Tipper> xrandr -s <x_res>*<y_res>
[18:03] <Tipper> if you need more informations take a look at
[18:03] <Tipper> man xrandr
[18:03] <handjob> thank u so much
[18:03] <Tipper> you get it?
[18:04] <handjob> i try in a sce
[18:07] <handjob> well now it's time to start xfce...hope it woarls.thx again
[18:16] <Tipper> How can I move spaces?
[18:16] <Tipper> Myrtti you know?
[18:17] <Myrtti> no
[18:17] <cody-somerville> move?
[18:17] <Tipper> like move them from the bottom bar to the top
[18:18] <cody-somerville> right click, move
[18:18] <cody-somerville> then drag to top bar
[18:19] <Tipper> thanks
=== freefull is now known as FreeFull
[18:20] <Tipper> How can I make it look like ubuntu start?
[18:20] <Tipper> hardy herron
[18:21] <TheSheep> Tipper: you mean the splash screen on boot?
[18:21] <Tipper> No I mean the theme
[18:21] <TheSheep> Tipper: just select the Human theme
[18:21] <Tipper> What about the wallpaper?
[18:21] <TheSheep> Tipper: in user interface settings
[18:22] <TheSheep> Tipper: you need to install ubuntu-artwork for the wallpaper
[18:22] <Tipper> link? I couldn't find it on google
[18:23] <TheSheep> Tipper: search for it in synaptic
[18:24] <Tipper> It says it is installed
[18:24] <TheSheep> then see the properties to see where the files are
[18:25] <Tipper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16227/
[18:27] <Tipper> how do I apply it?
[18:27] <TheSheep> ubuntu-wallpapers, sorry
[18:32] <Tipper> kk got the walpaper
[18:34] <ron_o> I go som ra\lly scr wd p problms .... cold i b my mobo? som l   rssslj
[18:35] <ron_o> ky board is ok... som l  rsssss won   yp
[18:35] <Tipper> TheSheep: http://sandlot.info/?p=69 how can I get my bars to look like that
[18:35] <ron_o> ip...
[18:36] <ron_o> abcd fghijklmnopqrs v wxyz    g  i...
[18:36] <ron_o> no yp... ky board ...
[18:37] <Tipper> Use the onscreen keyboard from the add/remove programs
[18:37] <ron_o> ks
[18:38] <TheSheep> Tipper: the theme has to have it
[18:38] <Tipper> It's greyish
[18:43] <Tipper> TheSheep: what do I need to do?
[18:43] <TheSheep> Tipper: find out what theme that guy uses and use the same theme
[18:45] <Tipper> Well apparently it is the defualt ubuntu
[18:45] <Tipper> theme*
[18:51] <TheSheep> Tipper: no, only the wallpaper
[18:51] <Tipper> oh
[18:52] <Tipper> Ehh I don't need it. But how do I take a screen shot of only a window? And how do I turn down my screen brightness.
[18:53] <eustas> hello there. what can i do to fix Neverwinter Nights music problem - it sounds really terrible - distorted
[18:53] <Tipper> TheSheep, you know?
[18:54] <TheSheep> Tipper: gimp can do it
[18:54] <TheSheep> Tipper: start gimp, and select file->aquire->screenshot
[18:55] <TheSheep> eustas: I didn't know there was neverwinter nights for linux
[18:55] <TheSheep> eustas: you only have this problem with that one application?
[18:58] <Tipper> TheSheep: what about screen brightness?
[19:00] <TheSheep> Tipper: what about it?
[19:00] <Tipper> How do I adjust it
[19:00] <TheSheep> Tipper: there should be controls on your monitor screen
[19:00] <Tipper> I'm using a laptop
[19:00] <Tipper> and when I do it, it doesn't work
[19:00] <TheSheep> Tipper: then it should have keys for that
[19:01] <TheSheep> Tipper: usually fn+f8 and fn+f9, or separate keys
[19:01] <TheSheep> Tipper: you can also adjust software gamma correction in display settings
[19:02] <Tipper> ok
[19:05] <thinkmassiv1> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[19:08] <thinkmassiv1> doh nevermind, too many network issues today :\
[19:08] <eustas> TheSheep: actuall - only with nwn. other games/applications play sound/music well
[19:09] <Tipper> TheSheep: I added some apps and they aren't appearing in the category
=== dsmith_ is now known as Steve_Ballmer
=== Steve_Ballmer is now known as dsmith_
[19:14] <TheSheep> Tipper: which ones?
[19:14] <Tipper> Screenshot
[19:15] <TheSheep> Tipper: scrot?
[19:15] <TheSheep> Tipper: you usually just bind it to a key
[19:15] <Tipper> Scrot?
[19:17] <Myrtti> Tipper: use the panel applet
[19:17] <Storm|nix> has anyone here ever used TiLP or TiLP2 On xubuntu?
[19:17] <Tipper> Myrtti this one is better
[19:17] <Storm|nix> I can't get the usb driver to work right
[19:22] <Storm|nix> anyone?
[19:34] <Tipper> Myrtti, TheSheep http://xfce-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=70611&file1=70611-1.jpg&file2=70611-2.jpg&file3=&name=Darker+Ice how can I get that sidebar thing?
=== t3hwiz0r1 is now known as t3hwiz0rd
[20:46] <aanderse> hi suRs
[20:46] <suRs> hi aanderse
[20:46] <suRs> :D
[20:47] <aanderse> how goes?
[20:47] <suRs> well i just finished my corky
[20:47] <suRs> and it goes nice!
[20:47] <aanderse> awesome
[20:47] <suRs> =)
[20:56] <camuflage> hello all
[20:57] <camuflage> i'm using xubuntu 7.10, and i would like to know how can i upgrade my xfce to 4.4.2 version?
[20:59] <Myrtti> basically, I think, please someone correct if I'm wrong, just update your xubuntu to hardy heron.
[21:00] <cody-somerville> Myrtti, correct :]
[21:01] <Storm|nix> xfce FTW!
[21:19] <peterajamesh> any one can help mount a slave HD?
[21:21] <Myrtti> peterajamesh: you've asked this earlier today, please elaborate on the problems you're currently having, I recollect that the yelp for help you did last time didn't actually provide the needed and necessary info
[21:21] <slow-motion> hi
[21:22] <peterajamesh> ok give a min to write down the details
[21:22] <Myrtti> hi slow-motion
[21:32] <peterajamesh> I got a xubuntu running on a 120 GB HD and I am traing to install a secondary HD, just as slave, I formated the Slave on EXT3 and mounted it with Gpart, but cant get xubuntu to automount the slave drive, usb drives automount just fine, I fount out one has to "sudo mkdir /media/first" and  "sudo mount -t <filesystem>  <partition>  /media/first" I was able to make a /media/second directory but when I type  "sudo mount -t <slavepa
[21:33] <peterajamesh> basically I want my slave drive to auto mount at boot...
[21:36] <Myrtti> you were cut off at "sudo mount -t <slavepa
[21:36] <Myrtti> anyway, the answer to your question is fstab.
[21:38] <peterajamesh> ok thanks looking into fstab
[22:42] <vehystrix> can anyone help me upgrading to 8.04, it keeps telling me I have unofficial packages...
[22:43] <TheSheep> vehystrix: just uninstall them and install later back
[22:43] <vehystrix> how do I know what to uninstall?
[22:44] <TheSheep> vehystrix: if you display by status in the left pane in synaptic, you have 'external or obsolete' category, or something like that
[22:47] <vehystrix> I don't see no such tab
[22:49] <TheSheep> when you click on 'status' at the lower left corner, you see 'All', 'Installed', 'Uninstalled', etc., there is no 'Installed (local or obsolete)'?
[22:49] <vehystrix> All, Installed, Installed (auto removable) and Not Installed
[22:49] <TheSheep> :/
[22:50] <TheSheep> what if you disable the unofficial repositories and update?
[22:51] <vehystrix> disable anything but the main(first one on the first tab) ?
[22:52] <TheSheep> no, just disable any non-ubuntu ones
[22:54] <vehystrix> I disabeled the third-party server, and the community-maintained
[22:55] <vehystrix> anything else?
[22:57] <handjob> tl;dr how do i change screen resolution in fail safe terminal for my xface session?
[22:59] <handjob> hello anybody here>>>?
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> no
[23:05] <slow-motion> n8
[23:07] <Odd-rationale> handjob: screen resolution can be chaned by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[23:09] <handjob> yes i herad about it but i am kind a newb and i dont knew what line do i need 2 hange
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> handjob: pastebin your xorg.conf file and i'll take a look...
[23:12] <handjob> well it's kind problematic for me running failsafe terminal
[23:13] <handjob> ; -|
[23:13] <handjob> i feel so noob
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> handjob: is that computer connected to the net?
[23:13] <handjob> yes!
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> handjob: well install pastebinit "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> handjob: then "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit"
[23:14] <handjob> yes....
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> then give me the link it gives you...
[23:14] <handjob> kk thx brb
[23:14] <vehystrix_> apparently by uninstalling all unofficial packages I removed the driver for my network card...
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> vehystrix_: well, you will have to wire up and reinstall it...
[23:15] <vehystrix_> I did...
[23:15] <vehystrix_> but that means my hardy update will complain about unofficial packages again...
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> vehystrix_: so are you ok now?
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> vehystrix_: cant you tell the updater to update anyways?
[23:16] <vehystrix_> not that I know of
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> vehystrix_: what options did it give you?
[23:17] <vehystrix_> to file a bug report...
[23:17] <vehystrix_> and that's about it...
[23:18]  * Odd-rationale seldom does upgrades. likes reinstalls...
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> i don't even remember what were the update options...
[23:18] <handjob> paste.stgraber.org/5107
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> but i think there has a way to press next...
[23:19] <vehystrix_> I don't want to lose everything, especially since I finally got it to work right...
[23:19] <vehystrix_> I'm trying again now
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> handjob: what resolution do you have now?
[23:20] <handjob> not quite sure its something like 1680 x 250
[23:20] <handjob> *1250
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> handjob: what resolution do you want?
[23:22] <handjob> anything that won't give me 'signal not supported' message l )
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> handjob: so all you can see in that machine is a terminal>
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> ?
[23:23] <vehystrix_> New error report here...
[23:23] <vehystrix_> Can't install 'xubuntu-desktop'
[23:23] <vehystrix_> It was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug.
[23:24] <vehystrix_> Could not calculate the upgrade
[23:24] <vehystrix_> A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[23:24] <vehystrix_>  This can be caused by:
[23:24] <vehystrix_>  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[23:24] <vehystrix_>  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[23:24] <vehystrix_>  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[23:24] <vehystrix_> If none of this applies, then please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport.
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> vehystrix_: i would just backup and reinstall....
[23:24] <handjob> in normal session i don't see anything since setting unsupported resolution,now i am wrighting from failsafe terminal
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> handjob: are you familiar with editing text file in a terminal? nano? vi?
[23:25] <handjob> nano ; )
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> handjob: http://paste.stgraber.org/5108
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> handjob: do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> handjob: then follow the directions I gave in the link...
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> look closely and the line that starts with Modes
[23:28] <handjob> than u so much 4 your time now i need to ctr+z hope to see u in a sce
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> then logout to gdm (exit) and restart X (
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> handjob: ^
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> restart X with ctrl+alt+bksp
[23:45] <handjob> welcome back (i so need a cig) i deleted the higher resolotions in xorg.conf thout my monitor keeps saing 'signal not supported' : (
[23:47] <Odd-rationale> handjob: maybe it is your hor or vert sync...
[23:48] <handjob> to be honest i don't knew what those 2 phrases r referin to all i knew it that i  set unsupported (by monitor) res and restrted x and everything now is ala steve wander show
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> handjob: back up your current xorg.conf file "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old"
[23:50] <handjob> yes...
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> handjob: hold one moment...
[23:51] <handjob> na rush  ;
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> handjob: now "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" again
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> under the Device section, change "ati" to "vesa"
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> then save the file and restart X again...
[23:56] <handjob> an my way brb