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[00:09] <asac> jimmy_: using something that tries to hook in gtk window is doomed to not work imo |
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[00:09] <asac> we should try to implement that differently |
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[00:10] <asac> but well, maybe the moko approach would really work. would love to see some code. |
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[02:27] <Sergeant_Pony> I have a really stupid question... my last updates uninstalled FF3. How can I get it back instead of FF 2.0.0.14? |
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[02:28] <fta> you should not have used dist-upgrade. just add hardy-proposed, then update and reinstall firefox-3.0 |
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[02:30] <Sergeant_Pony> pre-released updates, hardy-proposed. ? |
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[02:30] <fta> yes |
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[02:31] <Sergeant_Pony> it is already activated... |
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[02:31] <fta> please show me your: apt-cache madison firefox-3.0 xulrunner-1.9 |
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[02:32] <Sergeant_Pony> explain? |
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[02:32] <fta> open a shell, and paste that command |
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[02:33] <Sergeant_Pony> ok...done |
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[02:34] <Sergeant_Pony> there is 10 lines of info |
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[02:34] <fta> you should see |
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[02:34] <fta> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages |
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[02:34] <fta> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Sources |
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[02:35] <fta> ok, and xulrunner-1.9 ? |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Packages |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources |
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[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Sources |
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[02:36] <Sergeant_Pony> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Sources |
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[02:36] <fta> then it should work. |
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[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> I tried to install ff3 and I ended up with 2.0.0.14 |
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[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> I used apt-get |
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[02:37] <fta> no, 2.0.0.14 is only in firefox-2 |
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[02:37] <fta> apt-get install firefox-3.0 |
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[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> ok... |
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[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> we'll try it again. should I uninstall ff2? |
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[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> first |
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[02:38] <fta> no |
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[02:38] <Sergeant_Pony> ok |
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[02:38] <fta> you can if you don't want it but you can keep it, it doesn't hurt |
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[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> Reading state information... Done |
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[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 is already the newest version. |
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[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> firefox-3.0 set to manually installed. |
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[02:39] <Sergeant_Pony> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
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[02:40] <fta> make sure you have killed firefox-2 |
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[02:40] <Sergeant_Pony> if it's installed I wouyld like to know where... the icon gives me ff2 |
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[02:41] <Sergeant_Pony> say's I already have it |
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[02:41] <fta> you most like still have a process of ff2 running so even if you start ff3, it will just open an ff2 window |
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[02:41] <Sergeant_Pony> no I killed it |
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[02:41] <fta> ps auxww | grep firefox |
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[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000 7760 0.0 0.0 1772 444 ? S 18:36 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox-2 |
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[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000 7772 0.0 0.0 1772 440 ? S 18:36 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin |
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[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000 7776 2.0 9.1 161668 40936 ? Sl 18:36 3:51 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin |
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[02:42] <fta> kill that |
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[02:42] <Sergeant_Pony> how? |
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[02:43] <fta> find the window and close it as usual, or if you can't find it, killall firefox-2 |
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[02:43] <Sergeant_Pony> excuse my ignorance.. never had this happen before |
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[02:43] <fta> killall firefox-2-bin |
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[02:44] <Sergeant_Pony> 1000 1194 0.0 0.1 3004 752 pts/1 R+ 21:44 0:00 grep firefox |
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[02:44] <fta> good |
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[02:44] <fta> now start ff3 |
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[02:46] <Sergeant_Pony> YES!!! thank you :) |
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[02:47] <fta> basically, you cannot run firefox-2 and firefox(-3.0) at the same time because they share the same profile |
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[02:48] <fta> if you want to do that, use the profile manager (-P) and create a different profile for firefox-2 |
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[02:48] <Sergeant_Pony> ahh, ok.. when I lost ff3 I started using ff2 until I could get ff3 back. |
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[02:49] <Sergeant_Pony> do I have to reinstall all my ff3 plugins I had? |
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[02:49] <fta> i don't think so |
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[02:49] <fta> they should still be there |
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[02:49] <Sergeant_Pony> hmm.. none of them are working |
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[02:49] <fta> plugins or addons ? |
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[02:50] <fta> plugins or extensions ? |
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[02:51] <Sergeant_Pony> add-ons. got them all working except my side bar |
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[02:52] <fta> maybe it's not compatible with ff 3.0.. yet |
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[02:53] <Sergeant_Pony> it was working before the snafu.. but we'll wait and see |
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[08:51] <asac> Jazzva: hey :) |
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[08:52] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: install "firefox" not firefox-3.0 |
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[08:52] <asac> well you can install firefox on top |
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[08:52] <asac> btw, you should never run dist-upgrade |
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[08:52] <asac> if you track a stable distribution |
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[08:52] <asac> just upgrade |
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[08:52] <asac> if you use dist-upgrade look what would be happening first |
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[09:12] <asac> bug 219655 |
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[09:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 219655 in language-pack-gnome-fi "Firefox (xulrunner) printing problem when using Finnish (fi) translation" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219655 |
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[09:24] <asac> gnome bug 534056 |
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[09:24] <ubottu> Gnome bug 534056 in Backend:Mozilla "gnome-2-22 branch does not compile" [Blocker,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534056 |
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[09:28] <asac> gnome bug 513837 |
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[09:28] <ubottu> Gnome bug 513837 in General "downloaded pdf files are not automatically opened" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513837 |
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[11:09] <asac> [reed]: err, when i click "Edit" in the summary of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419861 i get to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/summary which doesnt exist |
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[11:09] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 419861 in General "Right-clicking links often causes unexpected "random" behaviors" [Normal,Unconfirmed] |
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[11:09] <asac> known issue with bugzilla? |
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[11:35] <fta> hi |
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[11:35] <asac> hi fta |
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[11:35] <fta> asac, could you please push mozilla-devscript #109 to intrepid ? |
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[11:35] <fta> too bad i can't do it myself :( |
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[12:00] <asac> fta: ok done |
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[12:00] <fta> thanks |
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[12:19] <Jazzva> asac: Yo! :) |
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[12:20] <asac> Jazzva: liferea :) |
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[12:20] <asac> Jazzva: i might be dense, but i dont know what debdiff to use to prepare the upload |
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[12:20] <asac> all appear to exclude something |
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[12:21] <asac> at least from the description |
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[12:21] <Jazzva> asac: What do you mean? I prepared them with debdiff {ubuntuold,debian}.dsc ubuntunew.dsc |
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[12:22] <asac> http://launchpad.net/bugs/228827 |
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[12:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 228827 in liferea "Please merge liferea-1.4.15-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] |
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[12:22] <Jazzva> and then filterdiff {1,2}.debdiff -x *.po |
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[12:22] <asac> after the build-depends bump i see: |
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[12:22] <asac> + liferea-debian-ubuntu-without-po.debdiff ( |
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[12:22] <asac> + liferea-ubuntuold-ubuntunew-without-po.debdiff |
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[12:22] <asac> + liferea-debiandir-debian-ubuntunew.debdiff |
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[12:22] <Jazzva> oh |
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[12:22] <asac> + liferea-debiandir-ubuntuold-ubuntunew.debdiff |
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[12:23] <asac> there is no debdiff that has all from what i can tell |
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[12:23] <asac> at least confusing |
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[12:23] <Jazzva> the first two are the diffs betwen ubuntuold/debian and ubuntunew version, as it is said in the wiki page for merging |
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[12:24] <asac> but why without .po ? |
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[12:24] <asac> why is .po in the diff anyway? |
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[12:24] <asac> in the first debdiff for instance |
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[12:24] <Jazzva> the second two are diffs between ubuntuold/debian and ubuntunew version, but just of the contents of debian dir. pochu told me he needed them |
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[12:25] <Jazzva> afaik, po is there because MoM doesn't remove it. MoM's junk... I was told to remove it manually, after making the debdiff |
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[12:25] <asac> yes those might be helpful for reviewing. but i still need something i can apply to any base and get exactly what you had |
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[12:26] <asac> interesing |
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[12:26] <Jazzva> Well, you can apply debian-ubuntunew-without-po to current debian's (15-1) and get 15-1ubuntu1, without po changes |
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[12:26] <asac> so the .po files are in the diff.gz of the previous upload? |
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[12:26] <Jazzva> applying ubuntuold-ubuntunew-without-po is the same if you apply to ubuntu old's version (14-0ubuntu4) |
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[12:27] <asac> but why without .po changes? |
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[12:27] <asac> where do they come from? from the last ubuntu upload? |
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[12:28] <Jazzva> From the new debian's? I guess it has the .po files which differ from the ones in current ubuntu. And I was told to remove it...afaik, we use roseta for translations. |
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[12:28] <fta> http://news.launchpad.net/podcast/launchpod-episode-3-new-launchpad-release-and-terminator (there's a talk about issues with firefox translations) |
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[12:28] <armin76> bumb |
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[12:28] <armin76> where's my patch applied? :( |
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[12:30] <asac> fta: only see one general translation topic |
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[12:31] <fta> yep, it's at the end |
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[12:31] <fta> ... of that part |
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[12:31] <asac> fta: what does he say? |
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[12:31] <asac> (short version :)) |
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[12:31] <fta> that it's different from everything else |
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[12:32] <Jazzva> asac: I might first apply the change to xul1.9 patch, regarding system sqlite |
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[12:33] <Jazzva> I would like to test it then first, so it would take half an hour, I suppose... |
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[12:33] <asac> Jazzva: i stated in the bug that we should keep it for now |
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[12:33] <asac> (if it doesnt hurt) |
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[12:33] <asac> fta: ok ;) |
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[12:33] <Jazzva> Well, I was able to start it in intrepid chroot and read feeds |
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[12:33] <Jazzva> :) |
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[12:34] <asac> Jazzva: good |
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[12:34] <fta> Jazzva, what do you want to change in xul ? |
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[12:35] <asac> fta: its about xul1.9 patch in liferea |
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[12:35] <asac> not xul :) |
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[12:35] <fta> oh, ok |
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[12:35] <Jazzva> The changes to liferea-1.4.15-1ubuntu1/src/liferea.in, that pochu mentioned |
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[12:35] <asac> we have a patch that allows non-system sqlite |
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[12:35] <Jazzva> ah... fta :)... |
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[12:35] <Jazzva> I thought asac was asking, still waking up. Sorry :) |
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[12:36] <fta> that hack in liferea is no longer needed in intrepid. |
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[12:38] <Jazzva> asac: Would you like me to upload diff.gz+dsc? |
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[12:41] <asac> fta: for now, but we dont know if we will have system sqlite in the final xul |
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[12:41] <fta> we don't ? there's a test in debian/rules so it's already in |
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[12:41] <fta> intrepid |
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[12:42] <asac> fta: yes. but we have to look carefully at the versions and performance once we approach release |
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[12:42] <asac> fta: whats the current sqlite version in intrepid? |
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[12:43] <fta> libsqlite3-dev | 3.5.9-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages |
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[12:46] <Sergeant_Pony> asac? just got your message from earlier |
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[12:48] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: about firefox removal? yeah. just install firefox package too (if you installed firefox-3.0) |
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[12:49] <Sergeant_Pony> ok, thanks |
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[12:50] <fta> asac, Jazzva: we can use that system for extensions: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/pqm/test-bzr-home/+merge/296/ |
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[12:51] <Jazzva> fta: with proposing branch merges? |
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[12:52] <fta> yes. good thing it's integrated and it could easily be parsed by a script to do the merge automatically once some trusted members approved |
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[12:52] <Jazzva> Sounds ok to me... :) |
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[12:54] <fta> i'll start a prototype soon. the specs seem stable now. |
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[12:54] <fta> just completing the refactoring of mozilla-devscript |
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[13:05] <fta> asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kazehakase/0.5.4-2 |
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[13:09] <asac> fta: ok, so once an "official reviewer" voted for the merge, it would get to production, right? |
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[13:10] <fta> yes, that's the idea |
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[13:11] <fta> well, except that the script will have to be run by someone with upload powers |
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[13:11] <fta> ie not by me :( |
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[14:21] <fta> http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2008/05/29/rebreaking-the-web/ |
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[15:12] <fta> asac, i've pushed the refactored mozclient. it's a pretty big patch. 33 files changed, 945 insertions(+), 450 deletions(-). Let me know what you think. |
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[15:21] <asac> havent retrieved that commit yet |
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[15:26] <fta> 110 |
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[15:50] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15802/ |
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[15:51] <fta> well, it's better to pull the branch and read from there |
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[15:53] <armin76> fta: where's the thunderbird-3.0 not full? :) |
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[15:53] <asac> armin76: thunderbird is always fat |
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[15:53] <asac> as usual |
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[15:54] * asac looks at .pl file |
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[15:54] <asac> and feels dirty |
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[15:55] <fta> really ? i could have done something much more compact |
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[15:55] <fta> but i knew you would have cry |
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[15:59] <asac> hehe |
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[16:00] <asac> the dirtiness made me becoming distracted |
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[16:01] <asac> fta: do we really need the main script to be a .in file? |
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[16:01] <fta> what is dirty for you ? i mean, it's perl, not C so i don't feel like dropping the perl goodness |
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[16:01] <fta> just the libdir |
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[16:02] <fta> i can usemore perl magic to get rid of it if you want |
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[16:02] <asac> it would help me if the main script block would be split up in multiple stages |
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[16:02] <asac> that go their own wrapping function |
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[16:02] <asac> the main algorithm is hard to gather from that |
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[16:02] <fta> sure, that i can do |
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[16:03] <asac> fta: the feels dirty was a joke referring to my general mood when looking at perl files ;) |
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[16:03] <fta> in fact, it's almost done except the last 2 or 3 blocks |
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[16:04] <fta> i can introduce checkout(), pack() and cleanup() |
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[16:04] <fta> well, will do later today |
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[16:04] <asac> yeah. clean that up ... at best the main script will just have an easy to read algorithm with just abstract function calls and maybe a few cases |
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[16:04] <fta> i have to run for 1~2h |
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[16:04] <asac> sure |
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[16:05] <asac> but in general i like that idea |
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[16:05] <asac> maybe a bit too much genericism ... but well |
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[16:05] <asac> and the variable names dont allow you to guess easily what to use to tweak what stage of the checkout |
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[16:07] <asac> fta: from what i see the vcs logic is still special cases in the main script. we should have a plugin mechanism to add new VCS systems |
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[18:02] <[reed]> asac: wfm> |
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[18:02] <[reed]> asac: wfm... |
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[18:03] <[reed]> JS enabled? |
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[18:04] <asac> [reed]: which bug? |
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[18:04] <[reed]> <asac> [reed]: err, when i click "Edit" in the summary of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419861 i get to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/summary which doesnt exist |
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[18:04] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 419861 in General "Right-clicking links often causes unexpected "random" behaviors" [Normal,Unconfirmed] |
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[18:04] <asac> [reed]: hah ;) |
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[18:05] <[reed]> looks like a dupe of mozilla bug 404314 |
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[18:05] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 404314 in XP Toolkit/Widgets: Menus "when I click on a menu instead of click and hold it randomly selects a menu item and activates it" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404314 |
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[18:06] <asac> [reed]: good |
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[18:06] <fta> asac, i wanted to use objects at the beginning but it's just a script so I ended up doing it that way. |
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[18:08] <asac> [reed]: either that or mozilla bug 312225 |
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[18:08] <asac> which is fixed |
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[18:08] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 312225 in XP Toolkit/Widgets: Menus "When right-clicking for context menu in bottom-right corner of screen, last menu option is immediately selected" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312225 |
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[18:55] <asac> fta: so what info do we need in our meta file to properly sync AMO extension sources? |
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[18:55] <asac> something like: <sourcepackage> <amoid> [<releaseseries>] |
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[18:57] <asac> oh darn, its late. have to run |
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[18:57] <asac> cu later |
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[19:09] <asac> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412610 |
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[19:09] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 412610 in XRE Startup "MAXPATHLEN too small for glibc's realpath()" [Normal,New] |
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[19:11] <fta> hm, excellent |
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[20:53] <fta> asac, do you have the blueprints from uds posted somewhere ? |
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[21:25] <jimmy_> asac: did you get the email from Robert Saul? he didn't like your keys :) so you might need to regenerate one and send it to him |
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