| [00:39] <RoAkSoAx> norsetto, any sign of nxvl? | |
| [00:39] <norsetto> RoAkSoAx: nope | |
| [00:40] <RoAkSoAx> norsetto, wierd!! he might be in a nice bridge since he does not give any signs of being alive!! | |
| [00:41] <norsetto> RoAkSoAx: well, its almost 2am here, so I don't think he will phone soon, I think his flight is in few hours actually | |
| [00:42] <RoAkSoAx> norsetto, i see... here is almost 7pm... and i was expecting him to be present at the Americas Membership meeting since i'm applying and he was supporting me... but well.. | |
| [00:43] <norsetto> RoAkSoAx: I guess he didn't find any internet café with Ubuntu computers ;-) | |
| [00:43] <RoAkSoAx> norsetto, hahah yeah!! and neither a open wireless connection for his laptop... (here in my Perú you can find thousands since no one is aware of wireless security) | |
| [00:44] <viperhoot> where you are nxvl... xS | |
| [00:45] <norsetto> oh well, time to rest these poor bones | |
| [00:46] <viperhoot> hahah | |
| [01:04] <RAOF> Aha! It's not my crypttab that's broken, it's the initramfs :) | |
| [01:05] <RAOF> Ok, and maybe cryptsetup. | |
| [01:05] <RAOF> Awkward. | |
| [01:08] <kirkland> kees: fair enough, i'll bug you again if they haven't taken it by FF for Intrepid | |
| [01:11] <kees> kirkland: yup, sounds totally right | |
| [01:15] <nixternal> anyone in here want to attest at just how annoying RoAkSoAx is and think he should be an Ubuntu member, #ubuntu-meeting now :) | |
| [01:15] <RoAkSoAx> nixternal, nxvl would but he is still in Europe :( | |
| [01:15] <cody-somerville> lol | |
| [02:29] <nhandler> I'm doing a merge on a package where the source directory is not in named in the format <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion>. dpkg-source gives a warning about this. Should I rename the source directory, or should I leave it as it is? | |
| [02:30] <ajmitch> ignore | |
| [02:31] <persia_> nhandler: I'd keep the pattern used in the Debian package if they differ. Otherwise, it's not important (except where you are the packager or maintainer). | |
| [02:34] <nhandler> persia_: Ok, thanks for your help | |
| [02:39] <bddebian> Heya gang | |
| [02:46] <TheMuso> Hey bddebian. | |
| [02:52] <bddebian> Heya TheMuso | |
| [05:11] * persia_ notes that 744 packages currently appear on http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ if anyone wants to chase down build failures | |
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| === beuno_ is now known as beuno | |
| [06:07] <siretart> ScottK: yes? | |
| [06:08] <ajmitch> hello siretart | |
| [06:08] <siretart> hi ajmitch | |
| [07:04] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [07:11] <StevenK> dholbach: You sent a '.' to the xmms2 merge bug? | |
| [07:12] <dholbach> StevenK: I sent the "Steve: can you please take a look at it?" unfortunately before I subscribed you to it | |
| [07:12] <StevenK> But it's xmms2! | |
| [07:12] <dholbach> errrr | |
| [07:12] <dholbach> bug number? | |
| [07:13] <dholbach> StevenK: ^ | |
| [07:13] <dholbach> nm, got it | |
| [07:13] <StevenK> Trying to find it | |
| [07:13] <dholbach> bug 178477? | |
| [07:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 178477 in xmms2 "Please merge: XMMS2 0.4 DrKosmos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178477 | |
| [07:13] <dholbach> where's a "." there? | |
| [07:13] <StevenK> Maybe that was Thunderbird being dorky | |
| [07:13] <dholbach> I sent that on the bluez-utils merge | |
| [07:14] <StevenK> Oh! | |
| [07:14] <StevenK> Right | |
| [07:14] <StevenK> Then I confused the two bugs | |
| [07:14] <dholbach> alright | |
| [08:00] <pochu> \sh: can you have a look at bug 198618? you removed some files in a previous upload for which people are complaining | |
| [08:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 198618 in opencryptoki "Critical parts of library missing from the package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198618 | |
| [08:49] <pochu> stgraber: you should use '-s' with requestsync, as you need an ACK | |
| [08:52] <Arby> pochu: you rejected my merge of kdmtheme, could you give me someidea what's wrong with it? | |
| [08:53] <Arby> from the point of view of some one still learning just saying 'the debdiff looks wrong' doesn't tell me much | |
| [08:53] <Arby> since I'm still learning what 'right' is supposed to look like | |
| [08:55] <Arby> sorry forget link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdmtheme/+bug/227912 | |
| [08:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 227912 in kdmtheme "merge kdmtheme 1.2.2-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | |
| [08:56] <stgraber> pochu: oh right, forgot this option ... | |
| [08:57] <stgraber> pochu: thanks for the ack | |
| [08:57] * highvoltage | |
| [09:00] <pochu> Arby: look at the beginning of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14346701/kdmtheme_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.debdiff, you are removing changelog entries instead of adding them | |
| [09:00] <pochu> Arby: basically I think you did 'debdiff new old' instead of 'debdiff old new' | |
| [09:00] <pochu> Arby: also, please attach a debian->ubuntu debdiff, that's usually easier to review | |
| [09:01] <pochu> Arby: sorry for not saying what was wrong, btw | |
| [09:01] <Arby> pochu: no problem, just means I have to bug you here :) | |
| [09:01] <Arby> at least that's an easy thing to fix | |
| [09:01] <pochu> yeah | |
| [09:02] <Arby> I thought you meant the actual content was wrong. | |
| [09:02] <Arby> I'll fix it later (probably at weekend) | |
| [09:02] <pochu> no, I haven't actually looked into it yet | |
| [09:02] <Arby> I'm at work right now | |
| [09:02] <pochu> Arby: ok, when you do it attach both a ubuntu->ubuntu and a debian->ubuntu debdiffs :) | |
| [09:03] <Arby> pochu: ok, thanks for the feedback :) | |
| [09:04] <AzaTht> how do you keep track of changes you make to debian packages? | |
| [09:09] <pochu> AzaTht: mentioning them in debian/changelog | |
| [09:22] <AzaTht> no, I meant more how to handle changes | |
| [09:24] <pochu> AzaTht: ah, we merge our changes with the Debian package at the beginning of the development cycle (and we sync if possible) | |
| [09:27] <AzaTht> ok | |
| [09:27] <AzaTht> a pile of patched in an directory? | |
| [09:27] <AzaTht> patches* | |
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| [09:58] <charliecb> hi | |
| [09:59] <charliecb> is there any document which describes the process of syncing the debian-repos with the ubuntu-repos? | |
| [09:59] <charliecb> i can't find some packages in the ubuntu-repos, but i find the package in the debian-repos.. | |
| [10:00] <charliecb> for example libjava-gnome-java or libjogl-java | |
| [10:00] <dholbach> charliecb: if the package is not in Ubuntu yet it will be synced automatically in one of the auto-sync runs (if it's not in experimental) | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> all packages with no ubuntu-local changes will be synced automatically until DebianImportFreeze | |
| [10:01] <charliecb> dholbach: but i'm waiting since the beginning of intrepid and noting is synced. | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> is it in non-free or contrib? | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> in those cases it might need an explicit sync request, but I'm not sure | |
| [10:01] <\sh> moins | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> best to ask in #ubuntu-devel | |
| [10:02] <charliecb> dholbach: one is in non-free, but one not. | |
| [10:02] <siretart> libjava-gnome-java | 4.0.7-1 | intrepid/universe | amd64, i386 | |
| [10:02] <siretart> libjogl-java | 1.1.1-1 | unstable/non-free | source, all | |
| [10:03] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess for explicit sync requests | |
| [10:03] <siretart> so that one would probably need a manual sync request to get it into multiverse | |
| [10:03] <charliecb> siretart: how do you search? i use packages.ubuntu.com and there i can't find both packages. | |
| [10:03] <dholbach> hey luisbg | |
| [10:03] <dholbach> Mr VJ :) | |
| [10:03] <luisbg> hey dholbach :) | |
| [10:03] <siretart> charliecb: I prefer rmadison(1) to do those searches. it supports multiple source using '-u ubuntu' or '-u qa' for debian | |
| [10:04] <luisbg> it was awesome to vj with you guys spinning | |
| [10:04] <siretart> charliecb: it is part of the 'devscripts' package | |
| [10:04] <luisbg> dholbach, I want to do it again :) | |
| [10:04] <dholbach> luisbg: same here - it was just awesome | |
| [10:04] <charliecb> siretart: dholbach: ok. thank you | |
| [10:04] <dholbach> charliecb: anytime | |
| [10:04] <luisbg> dholbach, was your car toed after that? | |
| [10:05] <dholbach> luisbg: no, on the sunday before when we went to see the club for the first time - we parked in the wrong spot | |
| [10:05] <dholbach> luisbg: it was for "locals only" | |
| [10:05] <luisbg> dholbach, :S | |
| [10:05] <dholbach> 2000 ckz *RING* | |
| [10:05] <luisbg> ouch! | |
| [10:22] <huats> hey dholbach | |
| [10:22] <huats> :) | |
| [10:23] <dholbach> hiya huats :9 | |
| [10:43] <huats> does anybody can have a look at 180223 | |
| [10:43] <huats> I need some sponsoring there.... | |
| [10:44] <huats> yeah I mean bug 180223 | |
| [10:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 180223 in autopano-sift "Incorrect handling of filenames with spaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180223 | |
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| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | |
| [11:32] <huats> pochu: sure | |
| [11:33] <huats> pochu: otherwise I won't ask for a sponsor :) | |
| [11:33] <norsetto> huats! | |
| [11:33] <huats> norsetto !!! | |
| [11:33] <norsetto> huats!!! | |
| [11:33] <huats> norsetto !!! | |
| [11:34] <pochu> huats: I've seen many sponsorship requests lately that even failed to build, so nothing surprises me now ;) | |
| [11:34] <pochu> pochu! | |
| [11:34] <pochu> :) | |
| [11:40] <huats> pochu | |
| [11:40] <huats> ! | |
| [11:40] <huats> ;) | |
| [11:41] <huats> it is not my kind :) | |
| [11:41] <huats> (well I guess an error can happen but I use to test everything...) | |
| [11:42] <huats> (and if I want to become a MOTU one day, I have to take great care of my sponsorhip requests.... so let's start from the beginning) | |
| [11:44] <pochu> that's a very inteligent position :) | |
| [11:44] <directhex> maybe a merge for something in main wasn't the best place to start a packaging career | |
| [11:44] <slytherin> when is the next revu day? | |
| [11:45] <directhex> oh, on a related note, what's the explicit policy regarding updates & backports for packages in main? | |
| [11:45] <pochu> for backports, same as for universe | |
| [11:45] <slytherin> !sru | |
| [11:45] <ubottu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | |
| [11:46] <pochu> slytherin: no idea, ask nixternal :) | |
| [11:52] <directhex> backports are for "primarily desktop applications"? | |
| [11:53] <slytherin> directhex: not necessary, as long as you follow the policy and jdong is willing to put effort you can request backport for any application. :-) | |
| [11:55] <directhex> i'll wait until (if?) the intrepid package gets merged before i bug him | |
| [12:13] <norsetto> huats: I have got some boring stuff you may want to help with? | |
| [12:14] <Hobbsee> we're advertising boring stuff now? | |
| [12:14] <norsetto> Hobbsee: marketing strategy | |
| [12:15] <Hobbsee> norsetto: i figured, but do you think it'll work? | |
| [12:15] <norsetto> Hobbsee: what you don't know is that I have a bottle of Armagnac on the other hand ... | |
| [12:15] <Hobbsee> norsetto: ahhhh. | |
| [12:16] <Hobbsee> norsetto: my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ conquers it, like it does anything else, so i don't need to worry, but i see your point. | |
| [12:16] <norsetto> !long-pointy-stick | |
| [12:16] <ubottu> norsetto: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | |
| [12:16] <norsetto> hmmmmm | |
| [12:16] <Hobbsee> !Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ | |
| [12:16] <ubottu> Hobbsee: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | |
| [12:17] <Hobbsee> !hobbsee | |
| [12:17] <ubottu> I phear the stick so shhhhh | |
| [12:17] <norsetto> lol | |
| [12:17] <Hobbsee> !-hobbsee | |
| [12:17] <ubottu> hobbsee has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2007-05-10 14:42:04 | |
| [12:19] <sistpoty|work> hi folks | |
| [12:21] <norsetto> heya sistpoty|work | |
| [12:21] <sistpoty|work> hi norsetto | |
| [12:22] <norsetto> ah, this place is so calm and relaxing without sebner | |
| [12:23] <nhandler> Do you guys think that adding dh_icons is a big enough change to require a merge? Or should that change be dropped in order to do a sync? | |
| [12:24] <norsetto> nhandler: has this been reported to debian? | |
| [12:25] <nhandler> norsetto: The patch from the last Ubuntu version was submitted to Debian | |
| [12:26] <sebner> norsetto: :( :( :( I'm here :P But I'm less stupid as you suggested ;) | |
| [12:26] <sebner> hoi sistpoty|work | |
| [12:26] <norsetto> nhandler: and? Do they give a reason for not including it? | |
| [12:26] <sistpoty|work> hi sebner | |
| [12:26] <huats> norsetto: sure | |
| [12:26] <huats> if I can | |
| [12:26] <norsetto> sebner: :-) | |
| [12:27] <huats> sorry for the delay, I was away (I need some food :)) | |
| [12:27] <norsetto> huats: I thoughts so ;-) We are almost finished with the ocaml transition, all that is left is few packages which needs a rebuild test | |
| [12:28] <huats> sure | |
| [12:28] <huats> I'll have a look at it | |
| [12:28] <huats> ... | |
| [12:28] <huats> do you have any pointer ? | |
| [12:28] <Hobbsee> they allow food in the dungeon? | |
| [12:28] <norsetto> huats: you will find them in ubuntuwire, they show up as depends failed | |
| [12:28] <huats> :) | |
| [12:28] <huats> ok | |
| [12:28] <huats> I will | |
| [12:29] <huats> I'll have a look in the afternoon | |
| [12:29] <norsetto> huats: sure, thanks for helping | |
| [12:29] <huats> norsetto: my pleasure :) | |
| [12:29] <norsetto> huats: and now I think _I_ go to eat something | |
| [12:30] <Hobbsee> norsetto: how many bugs are still open? | |
| [12:30] <Hobbsee> norsetto: nope, too many. no food for you. *cracks whip* | |
| [12:30] <norsetto> Hobbsee: only about 50 000 | |
| [12:30] <Hobbsee> definetly too many. fix the bugs instead of food. | |
| [12:31] * ajmitch is waiting for Hobbsee to fix the rest | |
| [12:31] <ajmitch> surely you'll be leading by example | |
| [12:32] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: no, i lead by cracking the whip and such. | |
| [12:33] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: anyway, quiet you, else i'll go back to handing you 10x diffs at a time for you to upload. | |
| [12:33] <ajmitch> but you can upload them yourself! | |
| [12:33] * ajmitch has this wonderful mail folder called /dev/null | |
| [12:33] <Hobbsee> i know, but it's more fun to make you do them. | |
| [12:34] <ajmitch> good luck there | |
| [12:34] * norsetto <- food | |
| [12:36] <\sh> phew | |
| [12:37] <\sh> hard day | |
| [12:39] <sistpoty|work> s/hard/hot/ for me *sweat* | |
| [12:41] * Hobbsee dumps the two of you in the ocean. | |
| [12:41] <sistpoty|work> thanks, Hobbsee | |
| [12:42] <Hobbsee> sistpoty|work: you're welcome. cooler now? | |
| [12:42] <sistpoty|work> indeed :) | |
| [12:44] <nhandler> So norsetto, do you have an answer about whether or not adding dh_icons is significant enough to need a merge? Or should it be dropped for a sync? | |
| [12:45] <Hobbsee> last i knew, it should be merged still | |
| [12:47] <nhandler> Hobbsee: Ok, thanks. I'll upload the debdiff. Worst case scenario is that it isn't used, and the package is synced instead | |
| [12:48] <Hobbsee> nhandler: it's a change which makes the gnome cache more efficient, so i don't think it's something that we want to get rid of | |
| [12:48] <Hobbsee> nhandler: although a dh_iconcache --> dh_icons change is fine, fyi | |
| [12:49] <nhandler> Hobsee: The actual change was adding dh_iconcache. I was told that it was obsolete (on a previous merge), so I replaced iot with dh_icons. | |
| [12:50] <RainCT> (it doesn't only make it more efficient, but in some cases there are icons which aren't even shown if dh_icons isn't used) | |
| [12:54] <nhandler> Hobsee: RainCT: Thanks for your help. I submitted a debdiff for the package | |
| [12:54] <Hobbsee> RainCT: ah, i stand corrected. | |
| [12:55] <RainCT> btw, needs-packaging bugs (which are being reviewed on REVU) shouldn't have u-u-s subscribed, or? | |
| [12:55] <RainCT> (there are some in the sponsors queue) | |
| [12:55] <Hobbsee> don't ask me, i'm not the head anymore :) | |
| [12:55] <Hobbsee> check what the doc says | |
| [14:31] <directhex> woo, won my gpl violation complaint | |
| [14:34] <lukehasnoname> who was breaking it? | |
| [14:34] <directhex> taiwanese tv card manufacturer Compro | |
| [14:35] <lukehasnoname> rofl | |
| [14:42] <pdlnhr1> can anyone explain why ff3 was removed this morning? or point to a ticket giving a good reason. if i remember the release notes for 8.04 firefox3 was part of the plan... . | |
| [14:42] * erUSUL joins pdlnhr1 in the question | |
| [14:43] <erUSUL> and i add why the same happened to me with openoffice.org packages (among other things that went as dependencies) | |
| [14:44] <soren> pdlnhr1: Removed? | |
| [14:44] <pdlnhr1> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/ | |
| [14:45] <pdlnhr1> yeah... firefox3 was removed this morning on update | |
| [14:45] <dholbach> some translation pack packages are being held on my amd64 at the moment - if I'd dist-upgrade now, it's remove a bunch translation packages - is that the problem you're talking about? | |
| [14:46] <soren> I didn't think update-manager would let you remove things.. | |
| [14:46] <dholbach> no, it shouldn't | |
| [14:46] <soren> Oh, you're apt-get dist-upgrading? | |
| [14:46] <pdlnhr1> soren: it came through as a partial-upgrade | |
| [14:47] <pdlnhr1> nope... i clicked the little update icon in the corner | |
| [14:47] <pdlnhr1> i am not the only one erUSUL had the same experience | |
| [14:48] <erUSUL> dholbach: yeah a bunch of packages included firefox 3 and openoffice.org packages (with language packs and another related packages) | |
| [14:49] <pdlnhr1> i thought ff3 was a feature of 8.04 which if i recall is LTS which is why we waited to upgrade till now, and it took a while to get all the plugins working correctly again in ff and to have it just remove REALLY sucked... just seems bad form to me | |
| [14:49] <erUSUL> soren: if you accet the so called "partial upgrade" it will do | |
| [14:49] <erUSUL> accept* | |
| [14:49] <dholbach> what does dpkg -l firefox say? | |
| [14:50] <erUSUL> dholbach: can i paste here¿? | |
| [14:50] <dholbach> just the last line | |
| [14:50] <pdlnhr1> http://pastebin.com/m535f62d4 | |
| [14:51] <dholbach> weird - it was really removed - very weird | |
| [14:52] <pdlnhr1> i just d/l'd it to ~home/firefox and created a symlink but till this is resolved... i can not let any of my devolpers upgrade their machines | |
| [14:53] <dholbach> what happens if you run sudo apt-get install firefox3 ? don't press enter - just see what the upgrader wants to do | |
| [14:53] <pdlnhr1> E: Couldn't find package firefox3 | |
| [14:53] <dholbach> hu?! | |
| [14:53] <dholbach> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? | |
| [14:53] <pdlnhr1> yup | |
| [14:54] <pochu> pdlnhr1, erUSUL: are you running -proposed? | |
| [14:55] <erUSUL> dholbach: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 just wroked !@#!@# | |
| [14:55] <erUSUL> pochu: yep | |
| [14:55] <pdlnhr1> http://pastebin.com/d244764b4 | |
| [14:55] <dholbach> erUSUL: which packages did it want to remove or change? | |
| [14:55] <pochu> right, that's because xulrunner 3.0rc1 / firefox3.0 rc1 and many other packages have been updated there, and they weren't/aren't built yet | |
| [14:55] <erUSUL> dholbach: know i only have to reinstall the language packas openoffice.org and what not :| | |
| [14:56] <pdlnhr1> i am not anymore... because i don't want it to happen again.. but up to an hour ago i was running proposed | |
| [14:56] <pochu> either don't update until it doesn't want to remove anything, or don't use -proposed :) | |
| [14:56] <erUSUL> dholbach: hard to say or remember and i do not run "script" ... | |
| [14:56] <dholbach> erUSUL: use "gksu gnome-language-selector" it should do it all for you | |
| [14:56] <erUSUL> dholbach: i know... ;) | |
| [14:56] <pochu> (or use update-manager) | |
| [14:57] <dholbach> the problem with the language stuff in -proposed should be shaken out in some hours | |
| [14:57] <dholbach> I'd suggest what pochu said | |
| [14:57] <erUSUL> pochu: update-manager does remove the packages and the proposed packages that depend on other packages has to be uploaded at once if not people can not test the packages | |
| [14:58] <pochu> erUSUL: oh, it removes packages? that's weird | |
| [14:58] <erUSUL> pochu: it offers what it calls a "Partial Upgrade" and if you accept it removes the packages | |
| [14:59] <pochu> ah, indeed | |
| [14:59] <erUSUL> pochu: it is true that doing dist-upgrade just makes things worse :| | |
| [14:59] <pdlnhr1> well... i guess it is a known issue now... not much i can do about it... ill have to wait till they re add it to the repos | |
| [14:59] <pdlnhr1> but i won't be doing any updates on any of our developers machines for a while | |
| [14:59] <pochu> luckily end users aren't supposed to use -proposed, and you guys know how to fix things :) | |
| [15:00] <pochu> and this won't (shouldn't) happen in -updates | |
| [15:00] <pdlnhr1> pochu: yeah.. but it alows us to test out software and file bug reports | |
| [15:00] <pdlnhr1> i guess it is a catch 22 | |
| [15:00] <pochu> pdlnhr1: right, I guess update-manager could be more verbose when it's going to remove packages... | |
| [15:01] <pdlnhr1> pochu: well... not much else to be said on the subject... thanks for letting me vent... i will keep an eye out for it to be re added | |
| [15:03] <erUSUL> pochu: it does says that it will remove packages but how do i know if that's a required step on the "Partial Upgrade" thing or is just a defect on update manager?? | |
| [15:04] <pochu> erUSUL: good point. I guess it could tell what packages it's going to remove. does that make sense? | |
| [15:05] <pochu> erUSUL: so in this case you would have seen it was going to remove firefox and you would have canceled the update | |
| [15:05] <pdlnhr1> pochu: it tells you... but only after it had started the partial upgrade | |
| [15:06] <pdlnhr1> personally.. i thought it was going to replace it with RC1 | |
| [15:06] <erUSUL> pochu: the fact is that i saw that it would remove this things but i though (and i guess i was not the only one) that the removing of this packages was a needed step on the "Partial Upgrade" | |
| [15:08] <erUSUL> pochu: the gui of the partial upgrade is like the one you face on a dist-upgrade and in a dist-upgrade packages get removed . i just though that this was a similar case (packages will be removed and others newly installed) | |
| === Zic_ is now known as Zic | |
| [15:12] <pochu> erUSUL, pdlnhr1: ok, thanks for your feedback. I've told about this issue to the maintainer of update-manager and he can reproduce it, so hopefully he will be able to fix/improve it. I've also forwarded your commends to him | |
| [15:13] <pdlnhr1> pochu: thanks.... have a great day all.... | |
| [15:16] <erUSUL> pochu: thanks; much apreciated | |
| [15:18] <huats> trying to build a java package, I run into "You must specify a valid JAVA_HOME or JAVACMD!" while I use debuild -S -sa | |
| [15:18] <huats> does anybody has faced that before ? | |
| [15:21] <a|wen> huats: you probably use java in the clean target, and the java executable want's the JAVA_HOME env variable set | |
| [15:23] <pochu> anybody using hardy + vinagre? | |
| [15:24] <a|wen> how do i request a backport, if a small dependency change is needed in debian/controls ... do a normal backport request and attach the debdiff? and what should the version numbering then be? | |
| [15:25] <huats> a|wen: it is using java in the clean target | |
| [15:25] <pochu> a|wen: what's that change? maybe a backport of another package avoids needing to change it | |
| [15:25] <huats> so I need to have JAVA_HOME set in my env ? | |
| [15:27] <a|wen> pochu: it's libqt4-dev ... ahh, but I see that a correct version is already in backports, then it should be okay, or? | |
| [15:28] <pochu> I think so | |
| [15:28] <pochu> but I'm not a backporter :) | |
| [15:28] <a|wen> huats: i should think so; are you running debuild using sudo, then that might be why you don't have it | |
| [15:28] <a|wen> pochu: he :) ... do you know if the PPA's include backport packages, so I can test if it builds? | |
| [15:29] <Hobbsee> a|wen: they don't. | |
| [15:30] * a|wen considers making himself a backport pbuilder to hardy | |
| [15:31] <huats> a|wen: no | |
| [15:31] <huats> a|wen: using my regular user | |
| [15:32] <a|wen> huats: then you might have luck setting a JAVA_HOME env variable | |
| [15:34] <huats> pochu: I have corrected the gnome-subtitles debdiff to include the maintener field | |
| [15:34] <huats> ... | |
| [15:34] <huats> a|wen: I'll do it | |
| [15:39] <kirkland> So I merged the LTP package for Hardy, which has been orphaned by Debian. A couple of Debian guys responded to a post of mine, asking if I would be willing/interested in taking over maintenance of the Debian. What's involved with Debianizing an Ubuntu package? | |
| [15:40] <james_w> kirkland: not a lot if it is already in Debian | |
| [15:40] <kirkland> james_w: yup, already in Debian | |
| [15:40] <kirkland> james_w: just several years out of sync with mainline | |
| [15:40] <james_w> it's just a matter of watching over bug reports, packaging the new upstream releases and finding a sponsor for them. | |
| [15:40] <kirkland> james_w: the Ubuntu one is several years more modern | |
| [15:41] <james_w> ah, in that case testing the Ubuntu packages on Debian and getting a sponsor to push them back is probably a good start. | |
| [15:41] <kirkland> james_w: my question is more about what I need to do to the Ubuntu package to prepare it for upload to the Debian repo | |
| [15:42] <james_w> whatever it takes to make it work there :-) | |
| [15:42] <james_w> some people would want to see a non-Ubuntu version number to sponsor it. | |
| [15:42] <james_w> others would want no reference to Ubuntu in the changelogs, but that's a bit silly. | |
| [15:43] <james_w> the other thing would be updating Maintainer: in debian/control to be you. | |
| [15:43] <kirkland> james_w: okay, those 2 things are easy | |
| [15:45] <james_w> the only other thing would be Debian policy things, but your changelog doesn't hint about anything bad in that area. | |
| [15:45] <kirkland> james_w: right, okay | |
| [16:03] <bobbo> dholbach: ping | |
| [16:04] <lukehasnoname> pong | |
| [16:04] <dholbach> bobbo: pong - about to leave in a bit though | |
| [16:04] <bobbo> dholbach: it'll be quick :) | |
| [16:04] <bobbo> dholbach: in Bug #195196, when i upload the fixed version should i upload a debdiff against the old Ubuntu version or the new diff.gz? | |
| [16:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 195196 in graphmonkey "graphmonkey: Upgrade to new upstream release (1.7)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195196 | |
| [16:05] <dholbach> bobbo: the .diff.gz should be enough | |
| [16:05] <bobbo> dholbach: ok thanks :) | |
| [16:05] <dholbach> rock on | |
| [16:10] <herzi> dholbach: ping | |
| [16:11] <dholbach> herzi: pong | |
| [16:11] <herzi> dholbach: any chance to call you on the phone for ~20mins? | |
| [16:15] <lukehasnoname> Bug #205815 | |
| [16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 205815 in monodevelop "Monodevelop in hardy doesn't install gmcs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205815 | |
| [16:20] <lukehasnoname> If someone could fix that | |
| [16:20] <lukehasnoname> or tell me how to >_> | |
| [16:24] <devfil> lukehasnoname: mono-gmcs is reccomended | |
| [16:24] <lukehasnoname> I see that. Do recommended packages get isntalled by default? | |
| [16:24] <slangasek> Laney: I have no attachments to the pdns merge, you're welcome to it | |
| [16:24] <lukehasnoname> Because the compiler is rather necessary | |
| [16:25] <devfil> lukehasnoname: ok, I will fix the bug | |
| [16:27] <lukehasnoname> devfil: I appreciate it. Also, I just discovered how you right click in Synaptic to see recommended/suggested packages | |
| [16:28] <devfil> lukehasnoname: I can use debconf to ask if user want to install gmcs or not, I think this is the best think to do | |
| [16:29] <lukehasnoname> Eh, I suppose that does maximize user control. I personally can't see why someone would want the IDE without the *only* compiler for the language. | |
| [16:29] <lukehasnoname> C# in this case | |
| [16:30] <devfil> lukehasnoname: you're right | |
| === tuxmania1 is now known as tuxmaniac | |
| [16:34] <lukehasnoname> Don't quit on me, roak | |
| [16:34] <RoAkSoAx> ? | |
| [16:36] <lukehasnoname> RoAkSoAx quit ("Leaving") | |
| [16:37] <RoAkSoAx> lukehasnoname, closed by mistake my xchat app :P | |
| [16:38] <lukehasnoname> ah | |
| [16:39] <jpds> lukehasnoname: has to show off his new cloak | |
| [16:39] <jpds> ;-) | |
| [16:39] <RoAkSoAx> jpds, hahaha lol :P didn't recognize you with that nickname :P | |
| [16:40] <jpds> RoAkSoAx: heh. | |
| [16:40] <RoAkSoAx> xD | |
| [16:40] <lukehasnoname> xchat, hmmm | |
| [16:41] <lukehasnoname> I use pidgin on my linux machine, and mibbit.com on my work machine | |
| [16:44] <kirkland> can someone refresh the REVU uploaders keyring ? | |
| [16:45] <jpds> kirkland: one moment please | |
| [16:46] <jpds> kirkland: Done. | |
| [16:46] <kirkland> jpds: gracias! | |
| [16:47] <jpds> kirkland: De nada. | |
| [16:49] <emgent> heya | |
| === effie is now known as effie_jayx | |
| [16:56] <devfil> lukehasnoname: I added a debdiff to the bug | |
| [16:59] <bddebian> Heya gang | |
| [16:59] <Iulian> Hello bddebian. | |
| [16:59] <sistpoty|work> hi bddebian | |
| [17:00] <bddebian> Hi Iulian, sistpoty|work | |
| [17:11] <kirkland> who owns http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/index.py ? | |
| [17:11] <kirkland> very minor feature request for http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/lostpw.py | |
| [17:11] <kirkland> gpg -d <<EOT ; echo | |
| [17:11] <kirkland> ..... | |
| [17:12] <kirkland> could use an EOT at the end of that page | |
| [17:12] <jpds> kirkland: best ask RainCT about changes | |
| [17:12] <kirkland> such that the copy and paste works completely | |
| [17:12] <kirkland> RainCT: ^^^ | |
| [17:12] <kirkland> otherwise, it's a kickass lost-password process ;-) | |
| [17:13] <jpds> kirkland: Yep, I wish other sites did exactly the same | |
| [17:13] * RainCT reads the log | |
| [17:13] <jpds> however they don't ask for keys. | |
| [17:14] <kirkland> jpds: true. for the gpg-savvy among us, there are directories like pgp.mit.edu | |
| [17:14] <DRebellion> I am making a new package for intrepid, which depends on libqt4-dev version 4.4. However, the intrepid package is only 4.3.4. Not sure where to go from here, any pointers? | |
| [17:14] <RainCT> kirkland: true.. thanks for the notice :) | |
| [17:14] <kirkland> RainCT: you bet, nice job. | |
| [17:15] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ubuntu-virt | |
| [17:15] <kirkland> soren: also, you might have a look at my REVU for the ubuntu-virt-* metapackages: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ubuntu-virt | |
| === cprov is now known as cprov-out | |
| [17:22] <RainCT> kirkland: done | |
| [17:22] <RainCT> sistpoty|work, siretart: shout if you don't like the change :P | |
| [17:22] <kirkland> RainCT: cool, thanks | |
| [17:24] <RainCT> (^ those are the real REVU devs, btw; I joined the team recently) | |
| [17:24] <mok0> ScottK: hello | |
| [17:25] * sistpoty|work hides | |
| [17:25] <sistpoty|work> thanks RainCT :) | |
| [17:25] <DRebellion> Does anyone know of anywhere I could get some information about when/if it will be upgraded? | |
| [17:26] <RainCT> heh, sure thing :) | |
| [17:26] <Amaranth> DRebellion: Try asking in #kubuntu-devel | |
| [17:26] <DRebellion> Amaranth, ok, will do. | |
| [17:27] <siretart> RainCT: sounds good, go ahead! | |
| [17:28] <jpds> siretart: (I think he has done it) ;) | |
| [17:30] <siretart> great | |
| [17:41] <yannick> Hi, is there someone willing to help me to build ekiga SVN on lpia arch? -> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1977524&group_id=204472&atid=989748 packs here: https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive | |
| [17:41] <ubottu> Sourceforge bug 1977524 "PTLIB fails to buid in lpia arch" [Pri: 5,Open] | |
| [17:55] * sistpoty|work heads home | |
| [17:55] <sistpoty|work> cya | |
| [18:04] <lukehasnoname> does packages.ubuntu.com get updated automatically? | |
| [18:04] <lukehasnoname> or is it a static page? | |
| [18:07] <stdin> lukehasnoname: I can't imagine someone sitting there and updating all the pages manually, so I'd say it's reads some sort of database that get's updated at intervals | |
| [18:07] <RainCT> lukehasnoname: I think it's static but it's being automatically updated periodicallu | |
| [18:07] <mok0> On the websites, python-numeric and python-numarray both state to be superseded by NumPy. Is it Ubuntu policy to allow the deprecated modules as (possible) replacements for Numpy?? | |
| [18:07] <RainCT> (but I don't really know so don't trust me too much) | |
| [18:08] <Zelut> I'm currently building a package with CDBS and I have a app.install and app.docs. | |
| [18:08] <Zelut> if I want to add two scripts to /etc/acpi/{battery.d,ac.d} should those be added to app.install? | |
| [18:08] <RainCT> Zelut: yes | |
| [18:09] <Zelut> RainCT: can you point me to anything regarding app.*? ie; what other app. options are there? | |
| [18:10] <pochu> look at dh_* manpages | |
| [18:10] <pochu> e.g. dh_install, dh_installdocs... | |
| [18:10] <RainCT> Zelut: app.manpages for instance | |
| [18:10] <Zelut> I think that is the last thing I need to complete my package, is man pages.. | |
| [18:11] <RainCT> Zelut: (and for other ones do what pochu just said.. but iirc there aren't many more) | |
| [18:11] <Zelut> RainCT: does app.manpages use the same format as app.docs? as in just list the files, not the destinations? | |
| [18:11] <RainCT> Zelut: yes | |
| [18:11] <RainCT> Zelut: btw, if the source does only produce one binary package you don't need the app. prefix | |
| [18:11] <Zelut> ok, I guess I need to finish building the man page and I may have a package for submission for Intrepid | |
| [18:12] <lukehasnoname> rainct thanks | |
| [18:14] <RainCT> lukehasnoname: no, thank *you* for your feedback :) | |
| [18:14] <Zelut> on a somewhat related note to the /etc/acpi/ question. Does anyone know the order of upstart/rc.d vs /etc/acpi, etc? | |
| [18:18] <Zelut> mainly I want to make sure the init script created by the package will not run after the acpi events, ya know | |
| [18:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: and I'm not sure you need the uploaders field in the control file. | |
| [18:26] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay | |
| [18:27] <kirkland> mathiaz: leave it out entirely? | |
| [18:27] <kirkland> mathiaz: I was following a couple of other metapackages i found | |
| [18:27] <nxvl> kirkland: http://www.googlubuntu.com/ | |
| [18:27] <nxvl> kirkland: is that almost like the search engine you wrote? | |
| [18:27] <kirkland> nxvl: yeah, looks similar | |
| [18:27] <nxvl> kirkland: (btw, you have a lot of picture to upload) | |
| [18:27] <kirkland> nxvl: you still in Paris? | |
| [18:27] <nxvl> nop | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> i'm back in Prague | |
| [18:28] <kirkland> nxvl: oh, dude, please please please tell me you picked up my camer? | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> camera? | |
| [18:28] <kirkland> nxvl: shite | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> you lost it? | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> if you want i can ask in the hotel | |
| [18:28] <kirkland> nxvl: yeah, remember we were hanging out on Friday night around the piano? | |
| [18:28] <kirkland> nxvl: please do | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> (or you call and i go and pick it up) | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> oh | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> yes i saw it | |
| [18:28] <kirkland> nxvl: red jacket, and black Kodak camera | |
| [18:28] <nxvl> and left the bottle of pisco in there for you | |
| [18:28] <kirkland> nxvl: :-) | |
| [18:29] <Zelut> RainCT: if I'm adding files to /etc/acpi should I add acpi-support as a depends? | |
| [18:29] <kirkland> nxvl: anyway, please, please ask at the hotel for it | |
| [18:29] <nxvl> i thought you will be back to pick your stuff | |
| [18:29] <nxvl> ok | |
| [18:29] <nxvl> i will try to go there | |
| [18:29] <nxvl> or al least call | |
| [18:29] <kirkland> nxvl: many, many thanks. | |
| [18:29] <kirkland> nxvl: i'm trying to find an email address for a manager there, no luck yet | |
| [18:29] <kirkland> nxvl: I asked on checkout, but i didn't get much help, it was really busy | |
| [18:30] <nxvl> kirkland: http://towers.corinthia.cz/hotel/en/contacts/ | |
| [18:30] <kirkland> nxvl: wow, how did you find that? | |
| [18:30] <kirkland> :-) | |
| [18:31] <nxvl> kirkland: go to the web page, and click in "contacts" in the bottom of the page | |
| [18:31] <kirkland> nxvl: jeez, i swear i looked for that... anyway | |
| [18:31] <nxvl> heh | |
| [18:31] <kirkland> nxvl: yeah, that search engine is very similar | |
| [18:31] <kirkland> nxvl: i'll note that it does support the filters/refinements like mine does | |
| [18:31] <nxvl> when you are desesperate you never find whet you look for | |
| [18:32] <kirkland> nxvl: yeah, i'm pretty desperate about getting my pictures off of that camera | |
| [18:32] <kirkland> nxvl: i'm even willing to forgo the camera at this point, if i can at least get the pictures off of it | |
| [18:32] <RainCT> Zelut: possibly, but I don't really know | |
| [18:33] <nxvl> my flight leaves tomorrow at 2:40, so i will try to at least call | |
| [18:33] <nxvl> kirkland: if you have news send me an email if i'm not here | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | |
| [18:33] <kirkland> nxvl: thanks, i'm emailing them now | |
| === boomer` is now known as boomer | |
| [18:34] <Zelut> is this anything to worry about? (debuild output:) | |
| [18:34] <Zelut> dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of '99-origami-ac.sh' will not be represented in diff | |
| [18:34] <Zelut> dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of '99-origami-battery.sh' will not be represented in diff | |
| [18:34] <nxvl> btw | |
| [18:34] <nxvl> i saw a photo of me sleeping that day | |
| [18:34] <nxvl> :@ | |
| [18:35] <geser> Zelut: if it's important that those files are executable make sure they get their x bit back in debian/rules | |
| [18:35] <kirkland> nxvl: um, i think we call that "passed out" in english :-) | |
| [18:36] <Zelut> geser: I'm using CDBS so all I have in my rules is filename destination/directory .. | |
| [18:37] <Zelut> geser: it does not complain about the other files that are being put in place in usr/bin.. | |
| [18:38] <geser> then you can probably ignore it | |
| [18:38] <nxvl> kirkland: i was just sleeping there because i offer my bed to some guy because i was leaving at 3 am | |
| [18:46] <Zelut> can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong to get this error in uploading to PPA? | |
| [18:46] <Zelut> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive | |
| [18:46] <Zelut> this is a -0ubuntu2 updated package | |
| [18:47] <kirkland> mathiaz: so should I fix those two things and upload an update to REVU? | |
| [18:47] <geser> Zelut: did you used an different .orig.tar.gz than for -0ubuntu1? | |
| [18:48] <Zelut> geser: I didn't think so, but I'm going to go back and check.. | |
| [18:48] <kirkland> mathiaz: any other feedback while I'm making changes? | |
| [18:52] <Zelut> geser: that must have been it. accepted now. | |
| [19:02] <zul> kirkland: can we write a driver that sends a small shock through the internet maybe even an RFC | |
| === cprov-out is now known as cprov | |
| [19:10] <kirkland> zul: sounds intriguing! | |
| [19:31] <sebner> mok0: ehm. how can I attach icon at the wikipage? | |
| [19:54] <bobbo> is there any documentation on Watch files? I cant find any on the wiki | |
| [19:55] <slytherin> bobbo: which wiki? | |
| [19:56] <thekorn> bobbo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#head-50e9a6c8dba7adaa78d9903fa13d4513f32e290c | |
| [19:56] <Iulian> bobbo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/DebianWatch | |
| [19:56] <bobbo> slytherin: was talking about the Ubuntu Wiki, but im obviously blind :D | |
| [19:56] <bobbo> thanks thekorn Iulian LD | |
| [19:56] <mok0> sebner: In that little pull-down menu | |
| [19:57] <Iulian> bobbo: It's the same page. :) | |
| [19:57] <slytherin> bobbo: in case you don't find the page matching to search term you should do full text search | |
| [19:57] <hoahn> .. | |
| [19:57] <Iulian> Or google it should be good as well. | |
| [19:57] <norsetto> bobbo: re watch files for sf.net, pls. have a look at the uscan man page ;-) | |
| [19:59] <norsetto> bobbo: if you need help, let me know | |
| [19:59] <bobbo> norsetto: thanks a lot :) | |
| [19:59] <norsetto> bobbo: no, thanks to you for your help | |
| [20:00] <mok0> sebner, pull down menu at the top called "More Actions:" | |
| [20:02] <emgent> norsetto: o/ | |
| [20:02] <norsetto> emgent: X/ | |
| [20:03] <emgent> woow, new style? | |
| [20:03] <norsetto> somebody ought to tell Canonical employees to not use xls attachments .... | |
| [20:04] <emgent> hahhaha | |
| [20:05] <sebner> mok0: thx | |
| [20:05] <sebner> norsetto: wth? | |
| === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz | |
| [20:17] <kirkland> kees: hey, so I installed Debian unstable in a KVM, and dgot the Ubuntu ltp sources | |
| [20:17] <kirkland> kees: I fixed up the debian/changelog, bumping up the version, and noting the migration from Ubuntu to Debian | |
| [20:18] <kirkland> kees: and I fixed the control file, setting the maintainer to myself (as the previous maintainer is AWOL) | |
| [20:18] <kirkland> kees: I'm testing a build in the Debian KVM now | |
| [20:19] <kirkland> kees: and I'll follow that up with a test run | |
| [20:20] <kirkland> kees: once those two are a-okay, I assume I need to build a signed source package and put them somewhere that the debian guys can get them? | |
| [20:21] <slytherin> kirkland: what are you trying to do exactly? | |
| [20:21] <kirkland> slytherin: the ltp package in Debian has been orphaned | |
| [20:21] <kirkland> slytherin: i merged Ubuntu's ltp package up to semi-current upstream release for Hardy | |
| [20:22] <slytherin> kirkland: so you are trying to to get Ubuntu's package in Debian? | |
| [20:22] <kirkland> slytherin: well, it's more like i'm offering to take over maintainership of the Debian package | |
| [20:22] <slytherin> kirkland: Ok. | |
| [20:23] <kirkland> slytherin: and starting that out by updating the Debian unstable ltp package to something more modern, based on the work i already did for the ubuntu package | |
| [20:23] <kirkland> slytherin: which is 2+ years newer than the newest debian ltp package | |
| [20:24] <slytherin> hmm | |
| [20:24] <kirkland> slytherin: i got a pair of emails from Debian saying "This package has been orphaned. If you still want to collaborate, please | |
| [20:24] <kirkland> prepare an upload for Debian and take over the package's maintenance. | |
| [20:24] <kirkland> " | |
| [20:26] <slytherin> kirkland: Ok. I was just confused what were you trying to do. By the way you can simply create a pbuilder chroot for debian instead of installing Debian in kvm | |
| [20:26] <kirkland> slytherin: right, i keep around a nice selection of interesting KVM's anyway ;-) | |
| [20:28] <kees> kirkland: an orig+dsc+diff should be fine. | |
| [20:29] <kees> kirkland: you'll also want to toss the Ubuntu changes, and make sure it's "Debian only" changelog items. | |
| [20:29] <kees> kirkland: (the idea being to get a "clean" version into Debian) | |
| [20:32] <kirkland> kees: hmm, i looked at the changelog and I figured that Debian would want all of the fixes that you and i added in the hardy release cycle | |
| [20:32] <kirkland> kees: those changes are of value to debian-and-debian-derivatives, IMHO | |
| [20:37] <kees> kirkland: right, I don't mean remove the details, I mean swap things around so there isn't an Ubuntu revision listed. Just roll everything up into a new single debian changelog | |
| [20:37] <kees> *changelog entry | |
| [20:37] <kirkland> kees: ah, gotcha | |
| [20:37] <kirkland> kees: okay, i just made one new one at the top saying that | |
| [20:37] <kirkland> kees: i can collapse the top 3 then into one | |
| [20:43] <RainCT> OT, does someone know of an easier way to communicate with a process than dbus? | |
| [20:45] <geser> RainCT: what kind of communication? would fifos work for your purpose? | |
| [20:46] <RainCT> sending strings to it | |
| [20:46] <joaopinto> use a regular UNIX IPC mechanisms | |
| [20:47] <joaopinto> named pipes, sockets, message queues... | |
| [20:48] <RainCT> ok, I'm reading about that IPC things. thanks | |
| === nenolod is now known as happinessturtle | |
| [21:01] <kirkland> kees: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ | |
| [21:01] <kirkland> kees: changelog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ltp-20080229/debian/changelog | |
| [21:02] <mok0> sebner: I don't see your icons... | |
| [21:03] <kees> kirkland: changelog is missing the -2.1 upload | |
| [21:04] <kees> kirkland: you can also add "New upstream release (Closes: #420148)." to the changelog | |
| [21:04] <sebner> mok0: I let it resize first .. | |
| [21:05] <kirkland> kees: -2.1 upload? | |
| [21:05] <kees> and "take over maintainership (was orphaned) (Closes: #470091)" | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [21:05] <kirkland> kees: good point on the (Closes: #xxx) | |
| [21:05] <kees> kirkland: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/ltp/current/changelog | |
| [21:05] <kees> 2.1 NMU on May 9th | |
| [21:06] <nxvl> kees: did you received your signeg key by mail? | |
| [21:06] <kees> nxvl: haven't seen anything, no | |
| [21:07] <nxvl> ok | |
| [21:07] <nxvl> i will upload it directly i need to tune my laptop :S | |
| [21:08] <nxvl> uploaded | |
| [21:08] <nxvl> kees: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x1FFF4BA917063E6D | |
| [21:08] <kees> nxvl: cool | |
| [21:09] <kirkland> kees: oh, crap, i neglected that entirely | |
| [21:09] <norsetto> DktrKranz: do you know what happened to rospozoppo? | |
| [21:10] <DktrKranz> norsetto, he's busy with university, I guess. Long time no see him :( | |
| [21:10] <norsetto> DktrKranz: indeed, too bad he is not interested in Ubuntu anymore | |
| [21:11] <DktrKranz> do you miss his .desktop changes? :) | |
| [21:13] <norsetto> DktrKranz: not really, they are all coming back as merges now ... | |
| [21:13] <DktrKranz> heh, need a hand to report back to debian/upstream? | |
| [21:14] <norsetto> DktrKranz: neah, they are good to keep for new contributors | |
| [21:14] <norsetto> hint hint | |
| [21:16] <DktrKranz> new contributors, please ping norsetto to receive sponsorship for such merges, he has lot of experience ;) | |
| [21:16] <norsetto> DktrKranz: I'll be happy to sponsor those ONLY if they are reported back to Debian | |
| [21:17] <kirkland> kees: whats the best recommended method to wedge those -2.1 changes in? | |
| [21:17] <kirkland> kees: merge first? | |
| [21:17] <mok0> norsetto, are you a DD? | |
| [21:18] <DktrKranz> norsetto, IIRC, I asked him (and some who contributed in a similar way) to do the same, it's a shame to diverge from "mama" for that | |
| [21:18] <norsetto> mok0: a destroyer? No I'm simply a TB (tug boat) | |
| [21:18] <mok0> norsetto: .-P | |
| [21:18] <mok0> norsetto: I take that as a "no" :-) | |
| [21:18] <kirkland> kees: those -2.1 changes are against 20060918 | |
| [21:19] <kirkland> kees: the current package I'm working on is 20080229 | |
| [21:19] <kees> kirkland: sure -- but you'll need to make sure that a) the missing changelog appears in your changelog, b) whatever they fixed is fixed in your package too. :) | |
| [21:19] <DktrKranz> Debian Destroyer? | |
| [21:20] <norsetto> DktrKranz: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/shusn-no/dd-no.htm | |
| [21:22] * mok0 likes DD-1 :-) | |
| [21:22] <mrevell> nixternal: hey, got a moment? | |
| [21:23] <DktrKranz> norsetto, 404 | |
| [21:23] <mok0> Yeah that server is s..l..o..w! | |
| [21:23] <mok0> It got motu'd | |
| [21:24] <norsetto> mok0, DktrKranz: us navy stuff ;-) | |
| [21:24] <DktrKranz> military secrets? | |
| [21:24] <mok0> norsetto: ah, you mean they can't afford a decent server :-) | |
| [21:24] <DktrKranz> we are allies, c'mon guys... let me see! | |
| [21:24] <norsetto> mok0: not after scottk left them | |
| [21:26] <mok0> norsetto: yeah all the good stuff is probably in his basement | |
| [21:26] <DktrKranz> any core-dev sponsors around? | |
| [21:27] <norsetto> mok0: :-) | |
| [21:28] <mok0> DktrKranz: try -devel | |
| [21:28] <DktrKranz> low traffic in there :) | |
| [21:29] <mok0> DktrKranz: there you are. core-dev's are 9-5 people :-) | |
| [21:30] <ajmitch> and it's not yet 9am here :) | |
| [21:30] <DktrKranz> heh | |
| [21:30] <norsetto> mok0: with a looong midday pause | |
| [21:31] * DktrKranz will apply for core-dev, but before... need to finish U.S. White House 2008 campaign successfully | |
| [21:32] <DktrKranz> vote for me, please! | |
| [21:32] <mok0> DktrKranz: you mean you're running for President? | |
| === happinessturtle is now known as nenolod | |
| [21:32] <DktrKranz> mok0, I'm not running, I'll kidnap candidates and I'll become the One without too much trouble | |
| === nenolod is now known as happinessturtle | |
| [21:33] <mok0> *pling* lamps light up at the NSA computer center | |
| [21:34] <DktrKranz> I own NSA, we have root privileges on their systems, they do large use of Universe repository :) | |
| [21:34] <DktrKranz> mostly amule, they have bandwith :P | |
| [21:34] <mok0> DktrKranz: heh heh | |
| [21:35] * mok0 wanders if Obama uses Ubuntu! | |
| [21:35] <DktrKranz> let me see popcon | |
| [21:35] <mok0> we should send him a free CD ;-) | |
| [21:35] <norsetto> mok0: don't think so, a good USA president will stand by USA industry monopoly .... | |
| [21:35] <DktrKranz> clinton uses it | |
| [21:36] <DktrKranz> bill, at least :) | |
| [21:36] <DktrKranz> RSM for President! | |
| [21:36] <mok0> RSM? | |
| [21:36] <DktrKranz> Stallman | |
| [21:36] <smarter> DktrKranz: RMS then | |
| [21:36] <DktrKranz> I just switched some letters :) | |
| [21:37] <DktrKranz> smarter, exactly :P | |
| [21:37] <smarter> ;) | |
| [21:37] <mok0> A man with tresses in his beard still does not have a chance... | |
| [21:38] <mok0> Anyway, RMS doesn't use Ubuntu | |
| [21:38] <DktrKranz> which one? hurd? | |
| [21:38] <mok0> I guess | |
| [21:39] <mok0> correction: I guess not. It doesn't work | |
| [21:39] <mok0> :-) | |
| [21:39] <mok0> Actually, he may use Gobuntu | |
| [21:39] <pwnguin> it works fine as long as you dont want drivers or filesystems bigger than 2GB ;) | |
| [21:39] <pwnguin> i cant see him not using hurd | |
| [21:39] <pwnguin> eating dogfood and whatnot | |
| [21:40] <pwnguin> besides, gnewsense actually does things | |
| [21:40] <mok0> gnewsense? | |
| [21:41] <pwnguin> ... | |
| [21:41] * mok0 googles | |
| [21:42] <bimberi> !gnewsense | |
| [21:42] <ubottu> gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org - Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu | |
| [21:42] <mok0> Ain't that Gobuntu? | |
| [21:42] <bimberi> mok0: It pre-dates gobuntu iirc | |
| [21:43] <mok0> At least it's not gnonsense lol | |
| [21:43] <bimberi> hehe, a play on 'nuisance' methinks | |
| [21:43] <mok0> hehe | |
| [22:17] <ajmitch> hi | |
| [22:17] * ajmitch can finally sit down at the keyboard for more than 2 minutes :) | |
| [22:17] <kirkland> kees: okay, ltp builds now, merged changes from -2.1 release | |
| [22:17] <kirkland> kees: change log at http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ltp-20080229/debian/changelog | |
| [22:17] <kees> kirkland: \o/ | |
| [22:17] <kirkland> kees: everything here http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ltp.debian/ | |
| [22:18] <kirkland> kees: so reading mentors.debian, it looks like something similar to our REVU | |
| [22:18] <kees> kirkland: cool, once you've got it up on mentors, let me know, and I can poke at it with my DD hat on. Yeah, it's very similar. | |
| [22:18] <kirkland> kees: it looks to be more for new packages, rather than an updated package | |
| [22:18] <kees> kirkland: it's for updates too | |
| [22:18] <kirkland> kees: but i'll push it anyway | |
| [22:18] <kirkland> kees: okay | |
| [22:18] <kirkland> kees: i have an account now | |
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| === nand_ is now known as _nand_ | |
| === _nand_ is now known as nand__ | |
| [22:44] <kirkland> kees: http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/maintainer-packages?action=details;package=ltp | |
| === nand__ is now known as nand | |
| [22:45] <kirkland> slangasek: i created lp:~kirkland/grub/grub.32216, applied my patch, committed locally, but the bzr push won't take | |
| [22:46] <kirkland> bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() | |
| [22:46] <kirkland> slangasek: let me try the bzr+ssh method.... | |
| [22:46] <slangasek> kirkland: you'll have to switch it to bzr+ssh first before you can push, yes | |
| [22:46] <kirkland> slangasek: ah, sorry | |
| [22:47] <kirkland> the new lp: syntax in launchpad is not very copy-and-paste friendly :-( | |
| [22:48] <kirkland> for pushing anyway | |
| [22:49] <james_w> kirkland: run "bzr lp-login" and it should all work | |
| [22:50] <kirkland> james_w: No Launchpad user ID configured. | |
| [22:50] <kirkland> james_w: something missing in .bazaar/bazaar.conf ? | |
| [22:51] <james_w> kirkland: "bzr lp-login kirkland" sorry | |
| [22:51] <james_w> or rather your real user id. | |
| [22:51] <kirkland> james_w: thanks | |
| [22:51] <james_w> kirkland: bzr 1.4 (intrepid has 1.5) tries to warn you about this. | |
| [22:51] <kirkland> james_w: thanks | |
| [22:51] * slangasek glares at his computer for suddenly becoming reluctant to spawn new processes | |
| [22:54] <a|wen> slangasek: hit pid_max? ;) | |
| [22:57] <kirkland> slangasek: sorry, just realized I switched channels on you (again) .... lp:~kirkland/grub/grub.32216 | |
| [23:02] <slangasek> a|wen: a little hard to say | |
| [23:03] <slangasek> responsiveness of existing processes is also far below what it seems it ought to be given the load average | |
| [23:03] * ajmitch must get some flash-blocking addon for firefox, this site is killing my laptop | |
| [23:03] <kirkland> slangasek: I found a "propose for merging" link, so I did that ;-) | |
| [23:05] <a|wen> slangasek: you could check if your number of processes gets close to 32K, then it could be it ... but must admit, that it is a rare case :) | |
| [23:09] <slangasek> kirkland: sounds good :) | |
| [23:14] <slangasek> a|wen: 178 processes | |
| [23:15] <a|wen> slangasek: that definately leaves some room to the 32K ... i think you're right about the load average | |
| [23:23] <LaserJock> siretart: still up? | |
| [23:24] <slangasek> a|wen: and I meant that it was a little hard to say because it's hard to check the process count when shells are going dead on me left and right :P | |
| [23:25] * a|wen wonders what slangasek does to run his box that hard :P | |
| [23:34] <a|wen> night people | |