2008/05/27/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

[00:01] <stiev3_> leprechau, I've been able to solve that via adding the line [default] as the first uncomment line in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4909642#post4909642 )
[00:01] <stiev3_> then updating the img
[00:04] <stiev3_> I'm not very versed in any of this though.  So upon making that change, I deleted my client overlays so they get regenerated with the proper lts.conf.  That post starts the investigation, solution comes in at the end.
[00:06] <leprechau> gotcha
[00:06] <leprechau> i'll read
[00:06] <leprechau> thanks
[00:10] <leprechau> I don't see any mention of the [default] line...but I do see the init.d script
[00:10] <leprechau> I bet I can just add my mount option there
[00:19] <leprechau> i see that in some example confs though
[00:19] <leprechau> guess that's was an omission
[00:29] <stiev3_> I think I tried it out after reading these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5014661#post5014661 .
[00:31] <avihayb> umm, dose anyone happen to know if mythTV (or if it's the kernel's responsebility, then the kernel) supports the IR Transmitter that comes with a WinTV-PVR-150 MCE-Kit?
[00:34] <leprechau> umm
[00:34] <tgm4883_laptop> avihayb, I believe it does yes
[00:34] <leprechau> that's just part of lircd
[00:34] <leprechau> ircd handles all of that
[00:35] <leprechau> and it's supported by default...i used my ir transmitter for ages when I had an external cable box
[00:35] <avihayb> Lirc is responsible for bout the IR reciver and transmiter?
[00:35] <leprechau> correct
[00:35] <avihayb> good to know
[00:35] <leprechau> irsend does the transmitting
[00:36] <leprechau> http://www.lirc.org/html/irsend.html
[00:36] <leprechau> you need to have irexec running in the background
[00:36] <avihayb> thanks leprechau
[00:36] <leprechau> if i remember right
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> um you don't need irexec running for irsend
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> only if you want to map your remote buttons to say....a script
[00:37] <leprechau> ohh...that's what I had it for them
[00:37] <leprechau> *then
[00:37] <avihayb> :->
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> as in
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> using ir to start a program
[00:37] <leprechau> my channel change script and my transcoding pause
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> ir  execute
[00:40] <leprechau> lol @ forums..... i never could figure out why people use samba to share files between linux machines
[00:40] <avihayb> because someone made the interface to setting up sumba easy?
[00:40] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, why not?
[00:40] <leprechau> lol
[00:40] <leprechau> why use samba to share files between linux machines?
[00:41] <avihayb> easy = usable?
[00:41] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, why not?
[00:41] <leprechau> nfs is far better and has alot better performance
[00:41] <avihayb> and who knows how to set that up?
[00:41] <leprechau> why would you use a reverse engineered windows hack to share files between linux machines
[00:41] <tgm4883_laptop> performance isn't that much better and nfs has it's share of problems pertaining to permissions
[00:41] <leprechau> smb/cifs is a horrible protocol
[00:42] <avihayb> I'm not saying it's not
[00:42] <leprechau> and permission problems can all be fixed by a decent exports file with the correct maps added
[00:43] <leprechau> or...better yet
[00:43] <leprechau> synchronize your /etc/passwd files and uids between machines
[00:43] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, thats a great idea
[00:43] <leprechau> nis does it all pretty easy
[00:44] <tgm4883_laptop> yes NIS will do it, but the point is the setup required
[00:44] <leprechau> what...all 15 minutes of it?
[00:44] <leprechau> it's less than half a dozen config lines
[00:45]  * tgm4883_laptop rests his case
[00:45] <leprechau> lol
[00:45] <tgm4883_laptop> <leprechau> it's less than half a dozen config lines
[00:45] <leprechau> you point and click people scare me
[00:45] <tgm4883_laptop> and that would be the reason that linux only holds < 5% market share
[00:46] <leprechau> or a better way to put it...that's why 95%+ of the market aren't educated enough nor self motivated enough to think for themselves
[00:46] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, do you work for your computer, or does your computer work for you?
[00:46] <leprechau> god forbid you have to learn something along the way
[00:47] <leprechau> that's like saying you shouldn't have to change the oil on your car
[00:47] <tgm4883_laptop> not exactly
[00:47] <avihayb> leprechau: some pepole find it very VERY hard to learn computer "stuff", like parents
[00:47]  * tgm4883_laptop points out that there are oil changing places that will do that
[00:47] <leprechau> i am a parent
[00:48] <avihayb> I mean your parents
[00:48] <leprechau> ehh my dad got a 4th degree in his 50s
[00:48] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, I don't expect every single computer user to know how to do things in command line
[00:48] <tgm4883_laptop> <leprechau> ehh my dad got a 4th degree in his 50s
[00:48] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ explains a lot
[00:48] <leprechau> as in?
[00:49] <tgm4883_laptop> people that are far more educated than the average population tend to look down upon them
[00:49] <leprechau> no..lack of education is never a reason to belittle a person
[00:50] <tgm4883_laptop> yet thats exactly what you are doing
[00:50] <leprechau> no
[00:50] <dthacker> Hi, my subscribtion to schedules direct expired, and I'm unable to connect after renewing it.  How do I resolve thiis?
[00:50] <leprechau> i am condeming people that lack the will to gain knowledge
[00:50] <tgm4883_laptop> dthacker, error messages?
[00:50] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, what if it isn't their desire to gain knowledge of some things?
[00:51] <leprechau> if that thing is not important enough to you to learn something about it...it's probably not important enough for you to do it
[00:51] <dthacker> tgm4883: 401 Unauthorized
[00:51] <tgm4883_laptop> wait, let me get this straight.  I don't know how to fix my car, should I then not drive?
[00:52] <dthacker> but I have a confirmation email stating my renewal was successful.
[00:52] <tgm4883_laptop> if I don't know how to fix an airplane, should I not fly it?
[00:52] <leprechau> tgm4883, I totally agree that all people who drive should have basica mechanical knowledge of the machinery they are operating
[00:52] <leprechau> if for no other reason that basic safety
[00:52] <leprechau> *than
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, point and click would be basic knowledge
[00:53] <leprechau> but what happens when the point and click doesn't do what you want?
[00:53] <leprechau> do you give up...or do you dig deeper
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> then you call a mechanic
[00:53] <leprechau> lol
[00:53] <leprechau> ahahaha
[00:53] <leprechau> that's hillarious
[00:53] <leprechau> typical intelectual laziness
[00:54] <dthacker> hey, I'm in the mechanics channel now.  Next time the same thing breaks, I won't have to ask.
[00:54] <leprechau> i fix my own cars...i repair my own computers...I even wired my own house electrical and data/voice
[00:54] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, lets say a screw gets into your intake manifold and ultmately ends up on top of your piston.  You engine sounds like shit now, you check the oil, but do I really expect you to take your engine apart?
[00:55] <leprechau> tgm4883, I would say every person should at least know enough about the basics of an internal combustion engine to be able to do so if they had to
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, and from what you just said, i refer to my previous statement about how you look down upon the less educated
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> not many people are able (or even willing) to take apart their engine
[00:56] <leprechau> i disagree with the able
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> let me rephrase that
[00:56] <leprechau> I think MANY more people are able than they or society at large gives them credit for
[00:56] <leprechau> but I do think that the mass majority of people just give up before flexing a little grey matter
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> not many people are able (or even willing) to take apart their engine and put it back together and have it work.  Further, they may think that their time is better spent elsewhere
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, where do you live?
[00:57] <leprechau> usa currently
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, city/state?
[00:57] <leprechau> nashville, tn area
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> what is your degree in?
[00:59] <leprechau> couple different things.... philosophy/psychology minor... computer science major with emphasis on networking and telecommunications
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> and you think you are the norm?
[01:00] <leprechau> I think I could be
[01:01] <leprechau> I think most people could do the same if they so desired
[01:01] <leprechau> and if it was just a bit more encouraged
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> and if they don't desire?
[01:01] <avihayb> If I had a lug stuck on a piston in my car, I might be able to understand that there is a problem in the pistons, but I dare not mess around with it, because I know enough to know I don't know enough about engines or cars for that matter
[01:01] <leprechau> we always need people to dig ditches i guess
[01:03] <dthacker> mythtv has not picked up my new schedulesdirect expiration date.  How do I get it to do that?
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> so if they don't desire to learn everything about everything then they must dig ditches?
[01:03] <leprechau> i never said anything
[01:03] <leprechau> i was talking about the extreme case
[01:03] <leprechau> people who desire nothing
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> I suppose your response to dthacker would be to RTFM or to google it
[01:04] <leprechau> well usually when I help people I either tell them where to read explicitly or tell them part of the solution in hopes of leading them down some self discovery
[01:04] <tgm4883_laptop> no, you came out and said that people shouldn't use samba between linux machines
[01:05] <leprechau> well you really shouldn't
[01:05] <tgm4883_laptop> and your basis for really shouldn't is that NFS is so much better
[01:06] <leprechau> my main basis for that is NFS is *nix specific...it's how things are done in *nix ... samba was never designed to be used for sharing between *nix machines
[01:06] <Seeker`> some people aren't capable of getting a degree
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, so we shouldn't use things that weren't designed for *nix?
[01:07] <leprechau> it was created out of the need to be able to access windows shares and share resources located on *nix devices to windows users
[01:07] <leprechau> you shouldn't use things not designed for *nix when there is a better alternative....now thinking outside the box is fine and so is creative usage
[01:08] <leprechau> but if there is a better alternative why not use that?
[01:08] <leprechau> now...if samba was better than nfs...by all means I would use it
[01:08] <avihayb> leprechau: you see samba as inferior due to it's many faults, and you know that it's a "bad" way to go round doing things, right
[01:08]  * dthacker makes 2 observations. 1) there are offtopic channels for this sort of nonsense 2) you've clearly established this is not a support channel
[01:08] <tgm4883_laptop> dthacker, i'm checking the sd forums about your problem
[01:09] <leprechau> well..they are right
[01:09] <leprechau> this isn't the place
[01:09] <Seeker`> tgm4883_laptop can multitask! arguing and research at the same time!
[01:09] <dthacker> i'm googling
[01:09] <tgm4883_laptop> as mythtv doesn't keep track of subscriptions i fail to see how this is a mythtv problem
[01:09] <leprechau> educated discussions are never arguments...they are debates of principal?
[01:09] <leprechau> :}
[01:10] <dthacker> tgm4883: it may not be.  mythtv does store information about my subscription, which I seem to need to manually update, and cant't fine a place to update
[01:11] <leprechau> you update your subscription info for schedule data
[01:11] <leprechau> in the backend setup
[01:11] <leprechau> myth backend setup...input sources
[01:11] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, I fail to see your totalitarian point
[01:12] <tgm4883_laptop> basically you feel that it is your way or nothing.  Everyone else is too useless to matter
[01:12] <leprechau> wow...so suggesting that people should always use the best tool for the task at hand (even if that requires you to learn something new) is totalitarian?
[01:12] <Seeker`> leprechau: define best
[01:12] <Seeker`> is best the one that you like most
[01:12] <Seeker`> is it the thing with the most options
[01:12] <Seeker`> is it the simplest thing
[01:13] <Seeker`> is it the thing the user knows most about
[01:13] <tgm4883_laptop> no, not allowing other people to make their own decisions on what to use and instead always thinking that you know best is
[01:13] <leprechau> best in this sense is the most secure/functional/fastest
[01:13] <Seeker`> those 3 are totally different things
[01:13] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, why is that the best?
[01:13] <Seeker`> if I want to set up a network share in 2 minute, I will go with what I know
[01:13] <leprechau> well related to the task at hand...transferring files...what other markers would you use
[01:14] <tgm4883_laptop> if you need to quickly access a share you can do that from the network folder
[01:14] <leprechau> other than speed/security/overall functionality?
[01:14] <Seeker`> leprechau: the ones I listed
[01:14] <leprechau> I fail to see how 'the one you like most' is logical at all
[01:15] <Seeker`> it is a possible definition of best
[01:15] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, i gotta ask, KDE or Gnome, or something else?
[01:15] <leprechau> not a logical definition
[01:15] <Seeker`> heh, people aren't logical
[01:15] <leprechau> but decisions of use should always be based on logic...correct?
[01:15] <Seeker`> no
[01:16] <leprechau> how else do you eliminate bias?
[01:16] <Seeker`> if I hate using every bit of software but 1 for a given solution, i'll use the 1 i like most
[01:16] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, it is logical.  If I need to transfer files real quick and only know samba, do I go learn how to use NFS?  Do i research and compare the many different protocols I could use for it, do I waste all this time or do i just quickly grab the file via samba?
[01:16] <leprechau> wow...way be be open minded
[01:17] <Seeker`> there is no general "best"
[01:17] <Seeker`> best is subjective
[01:17] <Seeker`> it depends on both the individual and the situation
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> <Seeker`> best is subjective
[01:17] <avihayb> say, leprechau, did you ever write a python program?
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ Probably the smartest thing said
[01:17] <leprechau> best is the opposite of subjective if defined with standards
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, do you have a laptop?
[01:17] <Seeker`> yeah, cause generalisations work
[01:17] <leprechau> yes
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, does it have wireless?
[01:17] <leprechau> yes
[01:17] <Seeker`> GNOME is the best desktop environment
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> do you use the wireless?
[01:18] <leprechau> yes
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> why?
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> it isn't the best
[01:18] <leprechau> it is the best for the task I use it for
[01:18] <Seeker`> that statement may be true, for SOME cases
[01:18] <leprechau> which is mobility
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> isn't slower than a wired connection.  It's more difficult to setup
[01:18] <leprechau> when I need to move large data
[01:18] <leprechau> i plug in
[01:18] <Seeker`> leprechau: It is less reliable, less secure and less easy to set up, which means that it *cant* be best, by your definition
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> so are you conceding that samba has some functionality then in linux environments?
[01:19] <leprechau> Seeker`, I also included functionality
[01:19] <avihayb> say, leprechau, did you ever write a python program?
[01:19] <Seeker`> leprechau: So your definition of best for network connectivity is the most convenient?
[01:19] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, gnome or kde?  xbox or playstation?  dark, milk, or white chocolate?
[01:19] <leprechau> avihayb, yes I've played around with python
[01:20] <avihayb> why? it's slow, it wastes resources
[01:20] <leprechau> tgm4883, out of just those choices..... gnome ... i don't own any consoles.... dark
[01:20] <leprechau> avihayb, because I wanted to gage those things myself
[01:20] <Seeker`> leprechau: So your definition of best for network connectivity is the most convenient?
[01:20] <leprechau> avihayb, not take someone elses word for it
[01:21] <leprechau> Seeker`, no...no one criteria can totally overshadow another
[01:21] <avihayb> well, you got out of that one nicely
[01:21] <Seeker`> leprechau: but for everything but mobility, wirless is wrost
[01:21] <avihayb> Seeker`: It's good for heating
[01:21] <dthacker> ok, back again.
[01:21] <Seeker`> leprechau: so obviously, mobility won out
[01:21] <tgm4883_laptop> Seeker`, what about a really long cat5e cable?
[01:21] <tgm4883_laptop> wait
[01:21] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry
[01:22] <leprechau> Seeker`, all cases of use have to be evaluated in a real situation where they are going to be used
[01:22] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, you must use cat6 or fibre
[01:22] <dthacker> I'm not able to find a path through the menus to the "input" section
[01:22] <Seeker`> leprechau: Why? If something is best, then it is best. There is nothing subjective about it.
[01:22] <dthacker> I've cycled through General and TV Settings.
[01:22] <tgm4883_laptop> the input section would be in mythtv-setup
[01:22] <leprechau> Seeker`, no...'best use' is always based on the case at hand and the factors controlling that circumstance
[01:22] <leprechau> what is best in one case may not be in another
[01:23] <leprechau> but every case does have a best solution
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> dthacker, how long was your account expired?
[01:23] <leprechau> if you are willing to find it
[01:23] <Seeker`> but you said that best should be defined by standards
[01:23] <leprechau> Seeker`, yes correct
[01:23] <Seeker`> so it should be defined by standards that cover every possible use case?
[01:23] <leprechau> standards that take usage and environment and the basis of the usage into consideration
[01:23] <leprechau> Seeker`, covering every possible scenerio is not plausiblt
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> ok everyone that is about as far as this needs to go.  This is getting pretty off topic
[01:24] <leprechau> *plausible
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> i myself am part of the problem
[01:24] <Seeker`> no, you quite clearly stated that best should be based on the case at hand. You also stated that best should be defined by standards. Either you want standards that define every case, or you need to make your mind up. Pick one.
[01:24] <leprechau> tgm4883, I did tell you part of my minor was philosophy....I wanted to be a professor for awhile...debating is all part of the fun of life ;}
[01:25] <leprechau> Seeker`, those are not mutally exclusive
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, while that is true, this is not the place for it
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> besides, if you wanted to help you could always code a feature for mythbuntu
[01:25] <leprechau> tgm4883_laptop, im just responding to what's posed to me...but i'll refrain
[01:25] <Seeker`> leprechau: You, sir, are wrong. At tgm4883_laptop's request I will leave you with your wrongness and get back to my revision.
[01:25] <leprechau> hah
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, understandable
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> Seeker`, thanks
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, you don't want to code something?
[01:26]  * Seeker` grumbles about advanced algorithms revision, and wishing that he could do some coding instead
[01:26] <leprechau> what do you have open that needs to be done?
[01:26] <leprechau> I just stumbled on mythbuntu a few days ago
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[01:27] <leprechau> the diskless server via ltsp kinda caught my eye
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> we haven't decided on blueprints for 8.10 yet
[01:28] <tgm4883_laptop> let me see if the head developer for that is around
[01:28] <leprechau> well don't wake him on my account right now
[01:28] <leprechau> my wife has been calling me for dinner
[01:28] <leprechau> for the past several minutes
[01:28] <leprechau> i'll be idle though and back around later this evening
[01:28] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, yea it's 2:30 in the morning where he is
[01:29] <leprechau> gotcha
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> if you know much about partitioning in the installer that would be great too
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> as in where the recipes need to go in the di environment ;)
[01:30] <leprechau> no offense...but my favorite OS installer out there is the openbsd installer...it's all just one bourne shell script
[01:30] <leprechau> plain and simple
[01:30] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, i'd also point you to #ubuntu-mythtv-dev where the developers hang out and have dev meetings
[01:31] <leprechau> aight...i'll give it a look
[01:41] <szakulec_> what kind of network setup do I need to have the videos stream from Mythweb with a minimum of buffering?
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> szakulec_, for standard definition you need wireless G or better, for HD you will need a wired connection 100mbit
[01:44] <szakulec_> tgm4883_laptop: my mythbox is using a wireless G connection, and when I try to access the SD videos from any other computer (wired or wireless), it's slideshow-slow
[01:44] <tgm4883_laptop> szakulec_, do you have wireless B devices on your network?
[01:48] <szakulec_> tgm4883_laptop: don't think so, but I'll check since there's more devices than in the past connected to the network
[01:48] <szakulec_> that's the most likely reason though right?
[01:49] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, even if your neighbor has a wireless b only device and it's in your coverage area it will revert your wireless back to b speeds
[01:49] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[01:49] <szakulec_> so ordinarily if my mythbox is wireless G, that's good enough to stream SD video without frame rate issues then?
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> ordinarly yes
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> I though have noticed a problem doing that recently
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> it seems to only affect it when using the mythfrontend on my laptop wirelessly to my backend.  I can stream just fine from mythweb
[01:58] <Seeker`> you can switch most routers to G only
[01:59] <Seeker`> streaming over mythweb seems to occasionally restart the stream
[02:37] <will00> ey im having an issue connecting to the mysql server, it says the test results are a failure
[03:38] <Egghead2> is there a way to echo to the screen or a file, what mythtv sends (the veriable date) to the change channel script?
[03:44] <Egghead2> oops, the string data attached to the change channel script, ie ch+, left right, etc..
[04:11] <JDStone> isn't there an easy way in MythTV to convert a recorded show to avi or some over format?
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> JDStone, like mythexport?
[04:20] <rhpot1991> mythexport will pump you out mpeg4/xvid/h264, just put in the res you want and bitrate, prob run with ipod for now
[04:20]  * rhpot1991 prepares to kill comcast
[04:24] <JDStone> ah hah, thanks tgm4883_laptop and rhpot1991
[04:24] <rhpot1991> JDStone: the wiki should explain it fairly well, if you have any questions just yell or shoot me an email
[04:29] <JDStone> will do. thanks dude
[04:34] <JDStone> what does mythtranscode do/for?
[04:36] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtranscode
[05:21] <bronson> I delete the channels that I don't get and a few days later they undelete again.
[05:21] <bronson> It's getting frustrating.
[05:21] <bronson> Is there any way I can delete channels and have them STAY deleted?
[05:22] <bronson> I assume mythfilldatabase is somehow resurrecting them...?
[05:22] <tgm4883_laptop> bronson, where do you get channel data from?
[05:22] <bronson> schedulesdirect
[05:22] <tgm4883_laptop> did you delete the channels from your lineup in schedules direct?
[05:23] <bronson> ah, no
[05:23] <bronson> just using the myth setup utility
[05:23] <tgm4883_laptop> yea thats whats bringing them back
[05:23] <tgm4883_laptop> there is two things you can do
[05:23] <tgm4883_laptop> either delete the channels in the SD lineup
[05:24] <tgm4883_laptop> or there is a command line option you can give mythfilldatabase so it doesn't add new channels
[05:26] <bronson> where is mythfilldatabase executed?
[05:26] <bronson> I don't find it in /etc
[05:26] <tgm4883_laptop> bronson, you can add the command line options in mythtv-setup
[05:26] <tgm4883_laptop> err
[05:26] <tgm4883_laptop> actually you can add them in the frontend
[05:27] <bronson> huh, I'll give it a look.
[05:27] <bronson> tgm4883, thanks
[05:28] <tgm4883_laptop> bronson, np.  look here for the options http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythfilldatabase  i believe the option is --remove-new-channels
[08:24] <selfsk_> hi all
[08:29] <selfsk_> guys, how I should compile mantis drivers for mythubuntu to start them working? Now I'm getting " mantis: disagrees about version of symbol stv0299_attach" and so on
[08:30] <selfsk_> i get mantis from http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis, make distclean, make, make install
[08:30] <selfsk_> mythubuntu - hardy 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
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[11:23] <Brian23> hello
[11:24] <Brian23> could someone please help me with a Mythbuntu question plz?
[11:25] <Brian23> Whenever i try to boot off the screen i can see the splash screen and all, but when i press enter on live cd or install nothing happends
[11:26] <Brian23> could someone please help me with this, i have been trying this all day with no success, i dont know what im doing wrong
[11:26] <Brian23> :(
[11:33] <Brian23> helo anyone here
[11:36] <avihayb> Brian23: did you try runing in a vga safe mode?
[11:46] <Brian23> is that wen u just select graphicsmode in the F4o ptions
[11:46] <Brian23> cos i tried that and still nothing happens
[11:47] <Brian23> when i press enter nothing hapens, doesnt load doesnt freeze just stay on the boot screen
[11:48] <avihayb> so you can still use up/down?
[11:48] <Brian23> yes
[11:48] <Brian23> the only options that work are boot from disk and mem test
[11:48] <avihayb> and what happens if you don't touch anything and let the timer count down?
[11:50] <avihayb> I'm asuming that there is a timer, I've never seen mythubuntu live cd before
[11:51] <Brian23> it just stays on 0 and still gives u a selection
[11:51] <Brian23> you can move the arrows around still
[11:52] <iamlindoro> Sounds like incompatible hardware (or, at least, hardware that will require you to change bootloader options).  I would ask in #ubuntu.
[11:56] <bazzawill_eee> I can try
[11:56] <bazzawill_eee> sry wrong chanel
[11:58] <Brian23> ok ill try there
[11:59] <Brian23> thankyou for your help :0
[11:59] <Brian23> :)
[12:29] <Brian23> Hello is anyone familiar with LinuxMCE
[12:29] <Brian23> ?
[17:50] <sabhain> anyone here use mythstream regularly?
[17:50] <tgm4883_laptop> sabhain, problem?
[17:52] <sabhain> no problem .. just curious about what sites it can work with .. can it navigate sites that require a login .. etc.
[17:53] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't think it can
[17:53] <sabhain> specifically, I'm thinking about Setanta Sports .. can't get it on cable in the US .. but broadband is available, and it would be REALLY cool if I could pipe the broadband through myth
[17:54] <tgm4883_laptop> you could always try it, i'm not entirely sure it would work
[17:54] <sabhain> yeah .. I'll have to fiddle with it during a GAA match in the next few weeks and post about it if it flies
[18:52] <sardiskan> what dual tuner card should I get
[18:59] <iamlindoro> would probably help to tell us what TV format you're trying to record
[19:03] <nespinosa> Hello!
[19:05] <nespinosa> I've got a pctv stereo analogue card. Do you know why sound and video are staggered when watching livetv ?
[19:09] <sabhain> sardiskan, analog or digital?
[19:10] <sardiskan> analog
[19:12] <iamlindoro> Then you can get a PVR-500 or... a PVR-500
[19:12] <sardiskan> ha
[19:12] <sardiskan> ordered
[19:13] <sabhain> what he said
[19:17] <sabhain> anyone here ever play around with modifying "mythmovies" plugin?
[19:30] <nespinosa> Hi!
[19:31] <nespinosa> I've got time lag between sound and video. how could I solve this problem ?
[19:31] <nespinosa> I've search in the menu but I don't find to set up this lag.
[19:33] <sardiskan> that would usually be in the audio setup
[19:33] <sardiskan> under general I think
[19:34] <sabhain> nespinosa -- is it a large time lag or small?  how long a lag is it?
[19:36] <nespinosa> it is a small lag. I would say a few seconds.
[19:37] <nespinosa> Is there a buffering option to set ?
[19:39] <sabhain> seconds .. not fractions?
[19:46] <sardiskan> how can I tell if my mythfilldatabase is running?
[19:46] <sardiskan> the last run was on 5-16
[19:48] <sardiskan> I thought mythbankend updates it every 24 hours
[19:50] <toorima> there is an option in setup - general i think to run mythfilldb
[19:50] <toorima> every 24h
[19:50] <sardiskan> according to this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythfilldatabase
[19:51] <sardiskan> it's suppose to be setup to do the update automatically by default
[19:52] <toorima> it changed in .21
[19:53] <toorima> go to setup - setup - general and page 7
[19:58] <sardiskan> oh ok
[19:58] <sardiskan> thanks
[19:59] <sardiskan> hm...how do you set it via the command line
[19:59] <sardiskan> I am at work and only have SSH and HTTP access to the unit
[20:12] <nespinosa> I have found the audio synchronisation menu when tipping key m. But it doesn't work. Is there a way to synchronize audio with an analog card (pctv stereo) ?does'nt work
[20:13] <laga> you need to set up your mixer correctly. the mythtv wiki porbably knows how to do that
[21:20] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1992, not sure if you saw this but it might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=808870
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