| === ScottK-uds is now known as ScottK2 | |
| [00:18] <Riddell> oh my ears | |
| [00:24] <seele> yeah.. my head is ringing | |
| [00:25] <ScottK2> And it's not because of the volume. | |
| [00:27] <seele> ScottK2: nah, i only had one beer tonight | |
| [00:27] <seele> ScottK2: if anything, it's from jumping around like a crazy person | |
| [00:27] <apachelogger> uhhh jumpstyle dancing :D | |
| [00:27] <ScottK2> I was thinking more about the nature of the sounds than the volume. They did severe violence to some of my favorite songs. | |
| [00:27] <seele> lol | |
| [00:29] <Riddell> ScottK2: which one? | |
| [00:29] <ScottK2> Light My Fire and American Pie are the two that come immediately to mind. | |
| [00:30] <ScottK2> Although the latter is long enough that it had got a lot better by the end. | |
| [00:30] <ScottK2> I'm old enough that I own American Pie from the original release (1972). | |
| [01:07] * uga thinks *buntu coding guidelines should suggest using firefox as a base for bad gui examples | |
| [02:42] <yuriy> uga: what parts of firefox are that bad that don't already apply to all of gnome? | |
| [04:08] <uga> yuriy: check the new download manager | |
| [04:08] <uga> yuriy: previously if you wanted to erase the whole list there was a clear list button | |
| [04:08] <uga> now you need to select one of the items and right click (if you don't select an item the menu won't popup) | |
| [04:09] <uga> and then clear list | |
| [04:09] <uga> why hide a function that is so useful and make it hard to reach | |
| [04:09] <uga> whoever did that had "oh! less buttons!" in his brain | |
| [04:11] <uga> appart from that, the settings dialogs are a mess | |
| [04:11] <uga> a real mess | |
| [04:12] <Jucato> (less of a mess compared to konqueror though :P) | |
| [04:12] <uga> I don't think so | |
| [04:13] <uga> try find where the proxy configuration goes | |
| [04:13] <uga> privacy? security? advanced? | |
| [04:13] <uga> where on earth is the connections option | |
| [04:13] <uga> you need to go to advanced->network->settings | |
| [04:14] <uga> obviously "network settings" is an advanced option in a browser, RIGHT¿? | |
| [04:15] <uga> and cookies expiration time etc, which should be options that nobody ever uses, appear in the main manus | |
| [04:15] <uga> menus | |
| [04:16] <uga> Jucato: finding that option in thunderbird is even more fun | |
| [04:16] <Jucato> heh I dare not touch the bird :) | |
| [04:17] <uga> as far as kmail doesn't work fine, I got no other choice | |
| [04:17] <uga> kde3 one was pretty annoying for imap | |
| [04:17] <uga> and kde4 one is... well, ... you know =) | |
| [04:18] <Jucato> yeah.. I know | |
| [04:18] <Jucato> also annoying for gmail imap | |
| [04:19] <Jucato> s/also/still/ | |
| [04:43] <nixternal> oi | |
| [04:44] <vorian> why does qt-copy take sooooo long? | |
| [04:48] <nixternal> vorian: you don't need qt-copy if you are using -proposed, as the qt4.4 libraries are available | |
| [04:49] <vorian> sh** | |
| [04:49] <nixternal> haha | |
| [04:49] <vorian> :) | |
| [04:50] <vorian> the wiki should be updated | |
| [05:35] <skreech_> nixternal: ping | |
| === skreech_ is now known as DASKreech | |
| [05:35] <nixternal> yo | |
| [05:35] <Jucato> nixternal: pong | |
| [05:35] <nixternal> foo | |
| [05:35] <Jucato> :D | |
| [05:36] * Jucato loves playing with nixternal hehehe | |
| [05:36] <nixternal> I will make you sick! stay away! | |
| [05:36] <DASKreech> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Chicago_Downtown_Aerial_View.jpg | |
| [05:36] <DASKreech> I can see your house from here! | |
| [05:36] <nixternal> holy jesus that is awesome | |
| [05:36] <Jucato> "* Jucato loves playing with nixternal" <--- if that isn't evidence of being utterly sick and broken, I don't know what is | |
| [05:37] <Jucato> whoa!!! | |
| [05:37] <Jucato> why can't we have one of those :( | |
| [05:37] <Jucato> (we don't even have a decent night skyline pic...) | |
| [05:37] <nixternal> DASKreech: it need to go about 10 more miles west, and you might be able to see it | |
| [05:39] <nixternal> that picture makes chicago look small | |
| [05:39] <DASKreech> It's tiny :) | |
| [05:40] <DASKreech> I have to change my res down just to make it fit my screen | |
| [05:40] <nixternal> I can see my old apartment though | |
| [05:41] <nixternal> that pic was taken a few miles up of course | |
| [05:41] <nixternal> where you see all of the skyscapers, that is a few hundred square miles | |
| [05:42] <DASKreech> See that's why we need a KDE webbrowser :) | |
| [05:42] <nixternal> ey? | |
| [05:43] <DASKreech> I got this pic from Stumbleupon | |
| [05:43] <DASKreech> WE need something with an uber plugin system :-) | |
| [05:44] <nixternal> ya, I would like to be able to use some of the greasemonkey scripts in Konqueror | |
| [05:44] <nixternal> I totally dislike Firefox, and especially dislike Firefox 3 | |
| [05:44] <nixternal> beta 5 and the new RC both suck hardcore | |
| [05:45] <nixternal> to me, Konqi in KDE 4 seems a bit bloated, and definitely broken | |
| [05:55] <DASKreech> w3m! w3m! w3m! | |
| [05:59] <Hobbsee> strange person. | |
| [06:00] <nixternal> most definitely | |
| [06:00] <nixternal> howdy Hobbsee | |
| [06:00] * seele yawns | |
| [06:00] <nixternal> howdy seele | |
| [06:00] <seele> later everyone.. off to the airport | |
| [06:00] <nixternal> just wakin' up? | |
| [06:00] <seele> yup | |
| [06:01] <nixternal> haha, figured you were on your way back to this cold ass country | |
| [06:03] <Jucato> have a safe and nice trip seele | |
| [06:04] <Hobbsee> heya | |
| [06:06] <nixternal> I would hate that flight...way to long for me not to be on solid ground | |
| [06:06] * Jucato notes that nixternal has turned #kde-devel to #kde-cafe... | |
| [06:06] <Jucato> hallow Hobbsee | |
| [06:06] <nixternal> that wasn't me | |
| [06:06] <Jucato> I saw you first :) | |
| [06:07] <nixternal> also, don't be givin' out info on the cafe man...it is a top secret geek breeding ground | |
| [06:07] <Jucato> nixternal: I still have one week for kde-docs right? | |
| [06:07] <nixternal> god that is scary | |
| [06:07] <Jucato> on right | |
| [06:07] <Jucato> oh right | |
| [06:07] <nixternal> 2 weeks | |
| [06:07] <nixternal> June 3rd | |
| [06:07] <nixternal> err, ya, one week...not even 2 | |
| [06:07] <Jucato> that's practically 1 week.. I don't count weekends | |
| [06:07] <Jucato> :D | |
| [06:07] <nixternal> 10 days | |
| [06:07] <Jucato> weekends are when I work... weekdays are when I lounge | |
| [06:08] <nixternal> hah | |
| [06:08] <nixternal> I am always lounging | |
| [06:08] <Jucato> I'm eyeing the session mangler and autostart control module docs... | |
| [06:08] <nixternal> jeesh | |
| [06:08] <nixternal> fire away homeskillet | |
| [06:08] <Jucato> if you always lounge, I wonder what you do when you're active :) | |
| [06:09] <nixternal> I am trying to get a working trunk build...but my desktop keeps locking up and I can't figure out the reason | |
| [06:09] <Jucato> somehow I always get the wrong image of a fish fillet when you say "homeskillet"... | |
| [06:09] <nixternal> I am starting to lean towards faulty hardware somewhere | |
| [06:09] <Jucato> one word: "Plasma" | |
| [06:09] <Jucato> :D | |
| [06:09] * Jucato likes to blame the poor critter | |
| [06:09] <nixternal> nah, cuz I can make KDE 3 lock up while building stuff | |
| [06:09] <Jucato> oh | |
| [06:09] <Jucato> now that's bad | |
| [06:10] <nixternal> but kde 4 locks up a heck of a lot more than kde 3 does | |
| [06:10] <nixternal> kde 3 has only locked up a couple of times...kde 4 has locked up every time | |
| [06:10] <nixternal> with and without the fglrx driver | |
| [06:13] <Jucato> fglrx.. | |
| [06:13] * Jucato once again sulks at the current state of his hardware... | |
| [06:31] * DASKreech blames X | |
| [06:31] <DASKreech> X sucks | |
| [06:31] <nixternal> that it does | |
| [06:31] <nixternal> unless of course you have intel, then it rocks :) | |
| [06:32] <Jucato> indeed. | |
| [06:32] <Jucato> but Intel doesn't make AGP's (discreet graphis cards?) | |
| [06:32] <Jucato> or PCI-E's... | |
| [06:34] <DASKreech> pr PCI | |
| [06:35] <nixternal> or anything detachable for that matter | |
| [06:35] <Jucato> yeah... | |
| [06:35] <DASKreech> I hate the new X though | |
| [06:35] <DASKreech> hate hate | |
| [06:35] * Jucato is stuck with low-end NVIDIA cards... because his mobo doesn't have PCI-E slots... | |
| [06:35] <DASKreech> Mine either | |
| [06:35] <DASKreech> why do you need a high end one? | |
| [06:36] <DASKreech> the day you need a high end video card for the desktop is the day you need Vista +1 | |
| [06:36] <Jucato> DASKreech: well not really high-end, but at least non-legacy | |
| [06:36] <Jucato> not true | |
| [06:36] <Jucato> if you were a graphics artist or animator, you'd still need a high-end one | |
| [06:36] <Jucato> (which was something I hope I'd become) | |
| [06:37] <DASKreech> Hmm what kinda graphics? | |
| [06:37] <Jucato> anyway, the real issue is that my card is legacy. and almost all of the fixes that relate to Qt4-NVIDIA bugs are not backported | |
| [06:37] <Jucato> computer graphics, animation (3D) | |
| [06:38] <DASKreech> Blender? | |
| [06:39] <Jucato> kinda | |
| [06:39] <Jucato> I'm also looking into gaming... the heavy kind... | |
| [06:39] <Jucato> (NWN for one) | |
| [06:51] <DASKreech> .. professional ? | |
| [06:52] <Jucato> hm? | |
| [06:52] <DASKreech> As in like FOSS heavy gaming? or professional dev? | |
| [06:54] <Jucato> just playing for now... I was dreaming of dev years ago.. | |
| [06:54] <Jucato> not sure if I'll take that up again anytime soon | |
| [06:56] <DASKreech> :-( | |
| [06:56] <Jucato> well, no time really | |
| [06:56] <DASKreech> Lots of FOSS games need devs | |
| [06:56] <Jucato> but my area of interest mainly revolves around graphics. from graphical user interface to computer graphics to 3D graphics :) | |
| [06:57] <DASKreech> The TUX RPG could use new models | |
| [06:57] <Jucato> who knows... maybe one day... | |
| [06:57] <Jucato> any how... nappy wappy time | |
| [07:48] <DASKreech> Jucato: awake? | |
| [09:14] <mhb> Artemis_Fowl, around? | |
| [09:14] <Artemis_Fowl> mhb: yes | |
| [09:14] <mhb> splendid | |
| [09:15] <mhb> Artemis_Fowl: hm, yes, are you able to /msg ? | |
| [09:16] <Artemis_Fowl> one min to verify my nickname | |
| [09:16] <mhb> OK. | |
| [09:16] <Artemis_Fowl> ok | |
| === masjan_ is now known as masjan | |
| [10:40] <mhb> any KDE4 expert around? | |
| [10:45] <Nightrose> mhb: many probably ;-) | |
| [10:45] <Nightrose> what do you need? | |
| [10:47] <mhb> Nightrose: nothing anymore | |
| [10:47] <mhb> Nightrose: well, I wonder how you change panel size in KDE 4.devel | |
| [10:47] <Nightrose> there was a video on that on the planet ;-) | |
| [10:48] <mhb> Nightrose: also, do you happen to know how to enable the WebKit kpart in konqueror? | |
| [10:49] <Nightrose> nope sorry | |
| [10:50] <apachelogger> mhb: co playground/libs/webkitkde | |
| [10:50] <apachelogger> build it | |
| [10:50] <apachelogger> then best thing to do is switching it in the file association kcm | |
| [10:50] <apachelogger> for the mimetype html | |
| [10:50] <apachelogger> or | |
| [10:50] <mhb> apachelogger: I've built that | |
| [10:50] <apachelogger> per session in konqueror -> view -> something -> webkitkde | |
| [10:51] <mhb> thanks | |
| [10:51] <mhb> got to go, be back in a few | |
| [11:15] <mhb> apachelogger: you seem to be a skilled chap | |
| [11:15] <mhb> apachelogger: how do you rebuild a part of kdebase without actually having to rebuild the whole kdebase over again? | |
| [11:16] <mhb> apachelogger: forget the question | |
| [11:16] <mhb> apachelogger: I guess using the old cmake/make should work | |
| [11:23] <apachelogger> yup | |
| [11:23] <mhb> turned out it didn't | |
| [11:23] <apachelogger> so you broke something | |
| [11:23] <mhb> no. but with those cs/cb scripts you can switch to a build dir and build a particular part. | |
| [11:24] <apachelogger> just svn up in cs, switch to cb and run cmakekde | |
| [11:24] <mhb> if you run cmake . and make afterwards, it won't compile anything - /bin/sh: KDE4_AUTOMOC_EXECUTABLE-NOTFOUND: not found | |
| [11:24] <apachelogger> sounds like a env var issue though | |
| [11:25] <apachelogger> mhb: btw, you shouldn't run cmake in the source tree | |
| [11:25] <mhb> right | |
| [11:25] <mhb> I said it wasn't a good way to build it | |
| [11:25] <apachelogger> hm | |
| [11:26] <apachelogger> mhb: so you want to rebuild a specific application within kdebase? | |
| [11:26] <mhb> exacylu | |
| [11:26] <mhb> exactly | |
| [11:26] <mhb> but I know how to do it right now | |
| [11:26] <mhb> so there's nothing to worry about | |
| [11:27] * apachelogger goes in standby again :P | |
| [11:32] <mhb> grr | |
| [11:33] <mhb> apachelogger: I need your help | |
| [11:34] <apachelogger> sure | |
| [11:34] <mhb> apachelogger: I've built kdebase once | |
| [11:34] <mhb> apachelogger: and it worked | |
| [11:34] <mhb> now I've changed some systemsettings code, and I'm trying to rebuild it | |
| [11:34] <mhb> so I do "cs kdebase/workspace/systemsettings/" and then cmakekde | |
| [11:35] <apachelogger> well | |
| [11:35] <mhb> for some freaking reason, it keeps the code cached somewhere! | |
| [11:35] <apachelogger> yeah | |
| [11:35] <apachelogger> cmake does | |
| [11:35] <mhb> argh | |
| [11:35] <apachelogger> you will have to run cmakekde in the kdebase dir | |
| [11:35] <mhb> and wait half an hour for it to build, after every change? | |
| [11:35] <mhb> no way | |
| [11:35] <apachelogger> mhb: does not | |
| [11:36] <apachelogger> as you said it's caching | |
| [11:36] <apachelogger> ultimately you just need to run cmake PATH in kdebase | |
| [11:36] <apachelogger> and make/make install in workspace/systemsettings | |
| [11:37] <mhb> you can't just build systemsettings on your own, without having cmake to check all the other apps? | |
| [11:38] <mhb> on every build run | |
| [11:43] <apachelogger> mhb: well, you can modify systemsettings' cmake file | |
| [11:43] <mhb> what? | |
| [11:43] <apachelogger> cmakelists.txt | |
| [11:43] <mhb> is KDE that developer-unfriendly? | |
| [11:43] <apachelogger> by default it inherts | |
| [11:44] <apachelogger> mhb: it's not like you were able to do that with autohell :P | |
| [11:44] <mhb> either that or you don't know the correct way | |
| [11:44] <apachelogger> you can also run cmake just in workspace | |
| [11:44] <apachelogger> mhb: thing is I never had a cache issue | |
| [11:44] <apachelogger> and I mostly do partial builds | |
| [11:44] <mhb> can't you just run some make clean in the build directory so it has to recheck the source files? | |
| [11:44] <mhb> because I've edited them, and it doesn't care | |
| [11:45] <apachelogger> oh | |
| [11:45] <apachelogger> as a matter of fact you might | |
| [11:45] <mhb> even if I write in a random string of characters, it doesn't care and builds from some cache | |
| [11:46] <apachelogger> mhb: cd to the build dir of workspace/systemsettings | |
| [11:46] <apachelogger> then run rm -rf ./* :P | |
| [11:46] <apachelogger> mhb: I suggest googling | |
| [11:46] * apachelogger has to leave for a administrator meeting | |
| [11:46] <mhb> ok | |
| [11:47] <apachelogger> windows server 2003 patching :D | |
| [11:47] <apachelogger> hrrhr | |
| [11:47] <mhb> ah, lovely | |
| [11:47] <mhb> how come you have time for that and not UDS ? :o) | |
| [11:47] <mhb> shame on you! :o) | |
| [11:48] <apachelogger> because it's part of the preparation for the IT exam on monday :P | |
| [11:48] <Tm_T> hahah | |
| [11:48] <mhb> hmm, is it | |
| [11:48] <mhb> have fun then | |
| [11:48] <apachelogger> laters | |
| [12:05] <etretyak> aa | |
| [13:08] <smarter> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qdevelop << package waiting for review/ack :) | |
| === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi | |
| [15:35] <nosrednaekim> nice interview Riddell :) | |
| [15:35] <nosrednaekim> the "four point naught" threw me off for a while though :P | |
| [15:39] <Jucato> the youtube video? | |
| [15:39] <Jucato> he was "dell from Kubuntu" :) | |
| [15:40] <nosrednaekim> :) | |
| [15:41] <nixternal> mornin' | |
| [15:43] <Jucato> moin nixternal | |
| [15:43] <\sh> hey nixternal-core ;) | |
| [15:43] <jjesse> afternoon Jucato | |
| [15:44] <nixternal> mmm, mcgriddles ftw! | |
| [15:44] <Jucato> almost noon jjesse :) | |
| [15:44] <jjesse> is he a core dev know | |
| [15:44] <Jucato> (for you I guess?) | |
| [15:44] <jjesse> Jucato: yes almost 11am | |
| [15:46] <nixternal> indy 500 tomorrow! | |
| [15:51] <jjesse> yay? | |
| [15:51] <nixternal> of course yay :) | |
| [15:51] <nixternal> go danika patrick! | |
| [15:53] <jjesse> you just like her cause she's smokin hot | |
| [15:53] <jjesse> not based on her driving skillz | |
| [15:53] <nixternal> and she is from Illinois | |
| [15:53] <jjesse> off to hardware store be back in a bit | |
| [15:53] <nixternal> she isn't the best driver, but ya, she's smokin' hot :p | |
| [16:09] <\sh> cheer people :) | |
| [16:09] <\sh> a good german beer in the afternoon is good ;) | |
| [16:55] <txwikinger> nixternal: The race is tomorrow, right? | |
| [16:59] <nixternal> yup | |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | |
| [17:24] <jjesse> stupid one time question: how do i set kate up so i can have multiple windows of kate open at a time? | |
| [17:25] <nixternal> ey? | |
| [17:25] <nixternal> you can't just keep opening up kate? | |
| [17:25] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... | |
| [17:25] <nixternal> just hit cancel when that window pops up | |
| [17:26] <jjesse> from the application launcher when i click on kate it doesn't open up a new window | |
| [17:26] <nixternal> it does here | |
| [17:26] <nixternal> it popped up something about a session, but I accidentally hit esc before I could read what it said | |
| [17:27] <nosrednaekim> works here.... what command is the menu item executing? | |
| [17:28] <jjesse> don't know what command the launcher in kubuntu is executing | |
| [17:28] <nixternal> interesting...it doesn't work here | |
| [17:28] <nixternal> when you open up kate from the menu, it only allows one instance | |
| [17:28] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: try, right click, edit menu | |
| [17:28] <nixternal> nice boog find there jjesse :) | |
| [17:28] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: not for me... | |
| [17:29] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: hrmm running kde4 | |
| [17:29] <nosrednaekim> oh! ok | |
| [17:29] <nixternal> same here | |
| [17:29] <nixternal> haha | |
| [17:29] <nosrednaekim> ^_^ | |
| [17:29] <jjesse> i thought at one time kubuntu shipped with something like kate & or something like that you had to edit? | |
| [17:29] <nosrednaekim> i'm running a rather odd system.... kde3 with kdesktop replaced by plasma :P | |
| [17:30] <jjesse> i can open up another session of kate through the terminal | |
| [17:30] <nosrednaekim> ah.... confirmed :) | |
| [17:30] <nixternal> Exec=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate --use %U | |
| [17:31] <jjesse> if i rememve the --use then i can open muliptle session if i recall corectly | |
| [17:31] <claydoh> the command to run kate 'kate --use %u' keeps everything in the same window, get rid of the '--use' bit in the menu entry | |
| [17:31] <jjesse> where do i change that? | |
| [17:31] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kmenuedit" | |
| [17:31] <nixternal> the --use should be removed honestly | |
| [17:31] <nosrednaekim> does the --use work for konqueror? | |
| [17:32] <nixternal> jjesse: if you launch kate via krunner, then you are fine | |
| [17:34] <jjesse> cool thanks for the help | |
| [17:53] <nosrednaekim> ooh couple months ago remember I was wondering what the @ symbol did in python? | |
| [17:53] <nosrednaekim> its called a "function decorator" | |
| [17:54] <nosrednaekim> and its used for passing a function, complete with its arguments, through another function | |
| [18:00] <nosrednaekim> which is how @pyqtSignature("") stops it from being run twice on each event | |
| [18:01] <nosrednaekim> thats from the last chapter in my python book :P | |
| [18:08] <nixternal> wth package provides $QTDIR/lib/pkgconfig? | |
| [18:08] <nixternal> there is a prepend in my ~/.bashrc but I can't apt-file search for it with results | |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | |
| [21:07] <Serega> hi folks | |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | |
| [23:38] <ryanakca> Has https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidWebsite been "finalized" ? | |