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[00:11] <latexer> anybody have any suggestions for good "stastics tools" for bzr branches? |
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[00:14] <beuno> latexer, there is a stats plugin written by jam, but I'm not sure what kind of statistics you're looking for |
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[00:15] <beuno> latexer, bzr branch lp:bzr-stats ~/.bazaar/plugins/stats |
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[00:15] <beuno> that should get it installed :) |
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[00:15] <latexer> yeah, i checked that out, it's pretty slim on stats though. |
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[00:15] <latexer> i'm thinking something web based, show commit timelines, LoC added/removed maybe, etc. |
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[00:16] <beuno> latexer, well, not currently, no |
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[00:16] <beuno> I don't see it very far away, or too complicated even |
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[00:16] <beuno> but it hasn't been done |
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[00:16] <latexer> fair enough. |
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[04:00] <ischnura__> Hi |
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[04:00] <ischnura__> I have been playing with the gtk front end of bzr |
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[04:01] <ischnura__> and I could not get the nautilus integration working |
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[04:03] <ischnura__> does someone know how to get the plugin to work? |
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[04:12] <beuno> ischnura__, what version of bzr-gtk? |
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[04:13] <beuno> it was enabled in 0.93 |
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[04:13] <beuno> er, disabled |
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[04:13] <beuno> so you should try 0.94 |
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[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> i find bzr a little strange at times :/ rename a file and it lists it as 'removed' name it back and re add it and its both removed and added ;| |
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[04:23] <ischnura__> I am back sorry for the delay |
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[04:24] <ischnura__> I am using Hardy with the version from the repositories |
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[04:24] <ischnura__> 0.93 |
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[04:26] <ischnura__> beuno, Is there some configuration that I need to do in nautilus? |
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[04:27] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: that's what bzr mv is for |
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[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob2, yeah. i'm still getting used to having an rcs (and as such not using coreutils) |
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[04:28] <bob2> (not using bzr mv does fracture the files history by storing a delete and an add) |
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[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> drat. |
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[04:28] <beuno> ischnura__, well, I'd use 0.94, where it's enabled by default, and many performance issues fixed |
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[04:29] <ischnura__> beuno, thanks |
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[04:29] <ischnura__> I will get the latest version then |
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[04:29] <bob2> 'bzr mv --after oldname newname' will fix it if you haven't commited |
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[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> i had commited, but i've reverted that change. bzr seems happy with it now for some reason. |
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[04:33] <bob2> for reference, if you haven't commited anything else, 'bzr uncommit' might be simpler |
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[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> neat |
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[04:39] <Odd_Bloke> Kamping_Kaiser: See also 'bzr mv --after'. |
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[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks. |
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[04:40] <bob2> another idea might be to alias commit to 'commit --strict' |
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[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks like bzr has everything covered, if only i stopped to think and look in doco *heh* |
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[04:41] <bob2> every vcs except for rcs and cvs have mv commands, fwiw |
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[04:43] <Odd_Bloke> And most other VCSs don't track moves at all. |
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[04:49] <ischnura__> beuno, I have read the README file in the 0.94 version |
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[04:50] <ischnura__> they talk about installing a the python-nautilus package |
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[04:51] <ischnura__> and to paste the installation files in .bazaar/plugins/gtk and the nautilus python script in ./nautilus/python-extensions ... |
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[04:52] <ischnura__> the problem is that it is still not working did you do any other extra configuration? |
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[04:52] <ischnura__> beuno, did you do any extra configuration? |
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[04:54] <beuno> ischnura__, try restarting nautilus |
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[04:54] <ischnura__> sudo killall nautilus |
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[04:54] <ischnura__> but still not work... |
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[04:55] <ischnura__> I will try to restart the system... |
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[04:55] <ischnura__> beuno, I will let you know if it works |
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[05:39] <ischnura_> beuno, no luck |
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[05:39] <ischnura_> I still can not get the nautilus integration to work... |
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[05:40] <ischnura_> beuno, did you have to do any other configuration to get it to work? |
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[07:20] <gour> morning |
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[07:20] <gour> what do you think about 1st item in http://bramcohen.livejournal.com/52148.html ? |
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[07:24] <spiv> gour: well, having two sets of half-done work is generally worse than having one finished thing |
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[07:25] <spiv> So from that perspective, it's good to minimise the number of things you are doing at once. |
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[07:26] <spiv> But I think he's too extreme. Sometimes it's unavoidable. Sometimes you do have a long-lived experiment, or need to collaborate with someone in a different timezone (e.g. "does this change fix the bug for you?"). |
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[07:27] <spiv> In fact, one of the great things about one-branch-per-feature is that if work on one feature isn't mature yet, that doesn't interfere with landing a different feature. |
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[07:28] <spiv> He says in the comments "I just plan out what I'm going to do and then start typing, with very little experimentation and patch management." |
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[07:28] <gour> right. branches are also not so expensive when we have shared repos |
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[07:29] <gour> and can be easily discarded when feature is merged back |
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[07:29] <spiv> That's fine if you're the only person working on the code, and you don't have process where all code is reviewed by someone else before it lands. |
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[07:29] * gour is accustomed to darcs where branching is quite normal operation |
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[07:30] <gour> yes, that's what i was doing with darcs, not pushing stuff 'out' which is not stable |
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[09:59] <Odd_Bloke> abentley: Is the BundleBuggy "This change has been merged." message a new feature? I like it. :) |
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[10:06] <gour> will new bzr-gtk still have dependency on seahorse? |
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[10:39] <sabdfl> if it does, i hope seahorse learns to pop up in front of the window it's being used in, instead of hiding away |
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[10:42] <RAOF> I think that's focus stealing prevention. In my experience it happens under compiz but not metacity. |
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[10:45] <gour> why seahorse and some extra gnome-stuff? gpa is not enough? |
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[15:48] <antoranz> What's up, guys! |
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[15:48] <antoranz> anybody awake? |
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[15:49] <antoranz> I wanted to ask how to "efficiently" handle "new lines" between diferent architectures? |
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[15:49] <bob2> hello |
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[15:49] <bob2> ideally, use an editor that will not mess them up |
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[15:50] <antoranz> but is there a way to make bazaar "figure out" how to handle the noe lines by itself? |
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[15:51] <bob2> it handles them fine |
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[15:51] <antoranz> perhaps with an option when run? |
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[15:51] <antoranz> Yesterday I made a brnach of my project on a M$ mox |
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[15:51] <bob2> if you're asking for it to translate between platform native line endings, that's under development |
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[15:52] <antoranz> and when a line was edited (on wordpad) when you sae the diff of the file, it was replaced from top to bottom (because of the new lines) |
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[15:52] <bob2> right, notepad messed it up by not using the existing line ending format |
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[15:52] <bob2> afaik auto translation is under development but close |
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[15:53] <antoranz> notepad is not even an editor. :-) |
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[15:53] <bob2> well, wordpad |
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[15:53] <antoranz> and wordpad is close to noet being one either. :-D |
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[15:53] <antoranz> so it's under development. |
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[15:54] <antoranz> Is there a timeframe to have it on the stable or trial versions? |
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[15:54] <antoranz> now... a question not directly involved with bazaar but close..... |
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[15:55] <antoranz> let's say I will stick with the other guy working on windows. |
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[15:55] <antoranz> and have his file replaced everytime. |
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[15:55] <antoranz> i could "merge" his changes (which will make bazaar think the file has been rewritten from top to bottom) |
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[15:56] <bob2> it's reallyt not a platform issue per se, it's an editor one |
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[15:57] <antoranz> (yes... that's hat I told the guy.... that he needed to set up his editor to use Unix new lines.... and you know what he replyed? Hold on to your chair: He was very happy using windows and won't install GNU/Linux... HUH?!?) |
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[15:57] <bob2> (I don't know when it will be released, but there's been increased chatter about it on the list) |
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[15:58] <antoranz> so... as I was saying.... I get his files replacing mine completely.... is there a command (or series of commands) that I could run on GNU/Linux to replace all the M$ new lines for unix ones? |
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[15:59] <antoranz> Just curious |
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[15:59] <bob2> sure, dos2unix |
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[15:59] <antoranz> or even better: series of command on windows he can run so he doesn't mess up the files? say just before committing |
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[15:59] <Pilky> antoranz: is your friend using notepad for editing? |
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[16:00] <bob2> on the flip side, most unix editors are competent enough to just not damage files with windows line endings |
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[16:00] <bob2> so if you conceded defeat and use them, you should be ok |
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[16:00] <antoranz> I just don't know what he will be using... it was just a "trial baloon" |
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[16:00] <Pilky> if so, I strongly recommend something like notepad 2.0 which I believe can work with unix line endings |
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[16:01] <antoranz> ok... you make it an editor problem and that's it. I don't know how I will be coping with that... I guess I can work dos2unix to "correct" HIS problem on my side. |
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[16:01] <bob2> no, you misunderstand |
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[16:02] <bob2> your editor will probably be happy with the line endings |
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[16:02] <antoranz> Oh.. I know... kate has no problem with that at all. |
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[16:03] <antoranz> but when he save (not saves... save) a file, if he's not careful, he will mess up bazaar and it won't be able to see line changes but file replacement instead |
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[16:03] <bob2> how so? |
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[16:04] <antoranz> say... I make a file... 100 lines long and put it in my repository |
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[16:04] <bob2> unless you convert back on your end, it'll be fine |
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[16:04] <antoranz> he "merges" it into his repo |
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[16:04] <antoranz> opens it.... say.. in wordpad |
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[16:04] <antoranz> he adds two lines |
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[16:04] <antoranz> saves it |
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[16:05] <antoranz> if he does a diff, bazaar won't see the two-line change |
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[16:05] <bob2> ah, yes, that will suck, if you want this scheme to work, you'd need to add files with windows line endings, too |
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[16:05] <antoranz> he will think the file as it was was completely removed and added 102 lines of code to replace it |
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[16:07] <antoranz> I know.... that's exactly what we're taling about. The problem is that he won't install GNU/Linux so he can have the lines the way I want (man... I'm still wondering at his lack of understanding of the problem :-S) |
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[16:07] <antoranz> :-) |
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[16:07] <bob2> hehe |
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[16:07] <fullermd> Take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. |
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[16:08] <bob2> well, at the moment you can either: use windows line endings yourself, or insist he uses a competent editor or use dos2unix a lot |
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[16:08] <antoranz> ok... bottomline: bazaar agnostic new lines recognition is on the way |
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[16:08] <bob2> at some point :) |
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[16:09] <antoranz> I can use dos2unix to "correct other people's carelessness" |
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[16:10] <antoranz> is there a tool that does the opposite for the windows side? |
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[16:10] <bob2> well, if you run it after every merge from him and before he sees your tree, yeah |
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[16:10] <bob2> unix2dos |
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[16:11] <antoranz> for windows? OK..... that's will do it... at the worst, I could add a batch file to the project that he could run before he commits. |
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[16:11] <antoranz> man.... do I hate people at Microsoft |
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[16:11] <fullermd> Could be worse; you could have Mac newlines mixed in too :p |
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[16:12] <antoranz> yeah! ;.) |
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[16:14] <antoranz> I have never programmed for the CMD. |
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[16:14] <antoranz> how can I build a while read line; do ; ; ; ; done < filelist.txt |
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[16:15] <antoranz> if anybody knows, I mean |
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[16:16] <name> antoranz: if he's got python i could help you :D |
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[16:19] <antoranz> well.... If he didin't have it, bazaar installed it for him, cause bazaar is working |
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[16:20] <antoranz> and that's obvious..... use python to do the job |
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[16:21] <antoranz> as a matter of fact, I've been trying to get my head in python for a while... perhaps it could be a nice exercise to begin with |
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[16:21] <antoranz> :-) |
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[16:21] <name> antoranz: should i write a file ending replacer for multiple files for you? |
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[16:22] <antoranz> nope... don't worry... I'll do it myself. ;-) |
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[16:22] <name> antoranz: okay.. |
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[16:22] <antoranz> that's anyway, name |
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[16:22] <name> it's not really hard anyway :) |
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[16:22] <name> look at os.listdir |
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[16:23] <name> and just replace ;) "\r\n" with "\n" or counterwise |
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[16:23] <name> if you got any questions, just ask me, query if you want |
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[16:23] <antoranz> ok. :-) |
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[16:23] <antoranz> let me give it a try. ;-) |
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[16:23] <name> ofcourse ;) |
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[16:24] <bob2> os.walk would be simpler |
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[16:25] <name> bob2: ah right, forgot that it could be multiple dirs :) |
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[16:27] <antoranz> I won't start that high... I'll setup a file where the files that have to be checked will be. |
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[16:27] <antoranz> I will think of simpler ways later |
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[16:27] <antoranz> (once I get a grip on python) |
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[16:27] <name> http://diveintopython.org is good |
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[16:29] <name> (if you have some programming knowledge) |
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[16:29] <bob2> if tou can't get this person to understand the issue, you might be better off just doing the work on your side |
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[16:30] <antoranz> bob2: Well... after his response that "he won't install GNU/Linux", I'm starting to wonder if I'm better of by myself. :-D |
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[16:30] <name> lol |
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[16:31] <antoranz> but well.... I'll just create this script just in case I'm stuck with him. :-) |
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[16:31] <name> and learning python is always good ;) |
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[16:32] <antoranz> I know.. I know... I was just waiting for one excuse to come by... and it's here... so.... let's not waste anymore time, right? ;-) |
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[16:32] <antoranz> let's see how I go,. |
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[16:32] <name> antoranz: nopaste it so i can check how you did it :) |
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[16:33] <antoranz> ok... I'll call dos2unix (to begin with). |
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[16:33] <antoranz> (i mean... for my python script) |
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[16:33] <antoranz> I'll do the whole job from the script later |
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[16:33] <name> lol |
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[16:34] <antoranz> don't laugh! :-) |
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[16:34] <antoranz> I mean.. I'll create a script that will call dos2unix |
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[16:34] <antoranz> a python script.... I'll change it later to do the converion by itself. |
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[16:34] <name> what's the point of the script them o.O |
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[16:35] <antoranz> give me a break, guys! :-D |
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[16:35] <antoranz> that I can't make a while read line < file_with_filenames on cmd... can I? |
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[16:35] <antoranz> :-P |
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[16:35] <name> antoranz: think the python way, query? :D |
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[16:36] <antoranz> what? |
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[16:36] <antoranz> :-) |
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[16:37] <antoranz> I'm sorry: say what? |
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[16:37] <name> antoranz: if i can query you for that is offtopic here |
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[16:37] <antoranz> if you can query me for what? :-S Man... I'm dizzy already |
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[16:38] <name> antoranz: about your script |
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[16:38] <antoranz> yea, my script |
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[16:38] <antoranz> wan't to see how it's going? |
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[16:38] <antoranz> I've made huge leaps forward |
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[16:39] <antoranz> http://www.pastebin.ca/1027994 |
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[16:40] <name> antoranz: WOW! |
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[16:40] <antoranz> Told you! :-D |
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[16:40] <name> i can't speak spanish tho |
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[16:41] <antoranz> well.... the first line is not important... but the rest of the script speaks for itself.... doesn't it? |
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[16:42] <antoranz> do you recomend to use tabs or spaces for indentation? |
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[16:42] <name> antoranz: that file contains the files to be converted, eh? |
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[16:43] <antoranz> yes... (to begin with) |
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[16:43] <name> i think i just wrote your script ;) |
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[16:43] <antoranz> I already know that python uses indentation to figure out "blocks" |
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[16:43] <antoranz> so which do you recommend to use? |
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[16:44] <name> i use spaces, but with the tab key |
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[16:44] <name> my ide does it well :) |
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[16:44] <antoranz> ok |
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[16:44] <bob2> pep8 (the python style guidelines) say 4 spaces |
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[16:44] <bob2> but like name says, it is your ide's problem to sort that out when you hit tab |
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[16:45] <name> WingIDE for the rule! |
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[16:46] <antoranz> what do I have to import to use fopen? |
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[16:46] <name> nothing |
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[16:46] <name> use open |
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[16:46] <name> or file, it's the same |
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[16:48] <antoranz> it worked with open |
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[16:48] <name> antoranz: loops are not the same as in C, for is not the same as C for... |
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[16:49] <antoranz> give me a minute,... I think I almost got V1.0 |
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[16:50] <name> lol i sent u a paste o.O |
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[16:50] <antoranz> what do you "pass" dos2unix? the name of the file and it will reconvert it? |
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[16:50] <antoranz> no new file is created? |
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[16:50] <name> u don't need dos2unix, just use replace of python |
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[16:51] <antoranz> come on, guys... that's V2.0 |
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[16:52] <name> it's easier to do anyway ^^ |
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[16:52] <name> messing with subprocesses is not easy for windows |
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[16:52] <bob2> it should be pretty easy with the subprocess module |
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[16:54] <antoranz> V1.0: http://www.pastebin.ca/1028003 |
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[16:54] <antoranz> let me commit it in the repository ;-) |
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[16:55] <name> why in gods name so complicated o.O |
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[16:55] <antoranz> man... I'm a rookie! Give me a break |
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[16:56] <antoranz> in a few minutes i'll have it working _your_ way |
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[16:56] <name> using external tools is just as hard or easy as using python internals |
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[16:56] <name> i tell you i've had loads of problems with subprocesses, namely wesnoth.exe for windows |
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[16:57] <antoranz> let it go, man.... com eon... breath... count to ten. :-) |
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[16:57] <name> i just warn you. |
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[16:57] <antoranz> I'll do the change in a few minutes... hold on |
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[16:59] <name> i had hundres of running processes with windows and loops and subprocess, tho it worked fine with linux |
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[17:01] <name> *hundreds |
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[17:02] <name> basically what u want is open(file, "w").write(open(file).read().replace("\r\n", "\n")) |
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[17:03] <name> no guarantee for that tho :) |
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[17:03] <antoranz> as I'm reading the filename from another file, I have a \n at the end of the filename |
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[17:03] <antoranz> how can I remove it? |
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[17:03] <name> antoranz: using readlines |
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[17:04] <name> file.readlines() |
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[17:07] <antoranz> same thing: No such file or directory: 'interfaz_standalone.php\n' |
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[17:07] <name> then use .strip on the string, tho it should not happen |
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[17:07] <antoranz> I hate python already. :-D |
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[17:08] <name> antoranz: it just hates you ;) |
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[17:08] <name> show me your code |
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[17:08] <name> and i'm sure it'll be PEBKAC |
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[17:08] <name> ;-) |
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[17:09] <antoranz> archivo = archivo.replace("\n", "") |
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[17:09] <antoranz> I'm not stupid, man... I know how to program, man... I just don't know my "resources" nor sytax with python... take it easy |
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[17:10] <name> yes, that's what i mean |
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[17:10] <name> but that replace will make it hard to tell between the lines |
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[17:12] <antoranz> no no.. that's just for the name of the file I have to process |
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[17:12] <antoranz> see ho it's going |
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[17:12] <name> sure but aren't there multiple files in that file? |
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[17:12] <antoranz> yes, there are |
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[17:12] <antoranz> see how it's going |
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[17:12] <antoranz> let me put it in the pastebin |
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[17:14] <antoranz> http://www.pastebin.ca/1028011 |
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[17:15] <lifeless> gour: the gtk dependency will be removed |
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[17:15] <lifeless> gour: it should really be 'optional usage' but its buggy right now |
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[17:17] <antoranz> guys.... I have to go for a while... I'll come back later to continue working on it |
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[17:17] <antoranz> thanks for your kind help |
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[17:17] <antoranz> name: thank you, man |
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[17:17] <name> np, look at the code i sent you in query |
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[17:18] <antoranz> I saw it... but I have to go to by some groceries |
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[17:18] <name> okay hf |
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[17:18] <antoranz> I'll come back to work on it later... I promise |
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[17:18] <name> lol |
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[17:18] <antoranz> take care. |
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[17:27] <gour> lifeless: you mean seahorse dependency? what is bzr-gtk without gtk? |
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[17:29] <Pieter> gtk doesn't depend on seahorse |
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[17:29] <gour> Pieter: bzr-gtk was crashing without seahorse |
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[17:30] <gour> my question is seahorse is really required for bzr-gtk 'cause it brings some gnome-stuff deps, instead of e.g. gpa |
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[17:33] <gour> s/is seahorse/is if seahorse/ |
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[17:38] <jelmer> gour: The explicit dependency on seahorse is a bug |
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[17:38] <jelmer> it's going to be fixed in the next release |
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[17:40] <gour> jelmer: thanks. that's i wanted to hear ;) |
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[17:41] <abentley> Odd_Bloke: Indeed. Just implemented yesterday. |
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[17:44] <lifeless> gour: I thought that was what I said ? :P |
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[17:47] <gour> lifeless: "the gtk dependency will be removed" is not quite the same |
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[17:47] <gour> lifeless: how can bzr-gtk be without gtk? |
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[17:48] <lifeless> meh :) |
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[17:48] <lifeless> I mean the erroneous dependency *of* bzr-gtk |
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[17:49] <gour> np ;) |
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[19:04] <antoranz> OK... I'm back! Hell... I'm very sleepy |
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[19:04] <antoranz> |-) |
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[19:25] <antoranz> OK... got it... perhaps it's a little rough... but it does the trick (just tried it) |
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[19:27] <antoranz> http://www.pastebin.ca/1028099 |
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[19:30] <antoranz> thanks for your help, guys! |
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[19:31] <antoranz> I'll be coming once in a while to see what I can help with. |
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[19:31] <antoranz> C ya! |
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[20:24] <Pilky> If I've just pushed to a launchpad and my friend hasn't changed anything since he last pushed, should he do bzr merge or bzr pull? |
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[20:24] <Pilky> or are they both equivalent in this case? |
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[20:26] <radix> Pilky: he should just pull |
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[20:26] <Pilky> ok, cool |
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[20:31] <Solarion> hmm |
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[20:31] <Solarion> my repo seems horked |
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[20:31] <Solarion> I think I unknowingly shut down during a very long operation |
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[20:32] <Solarion> any recommendations? |
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[20:38] <Solarion> bug #234647 |
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[20:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 234647 in bzr "bzr dies with parse error on corrupted history" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234647 |
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[20:38] <Solarion> ubottu: thanks |
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[20:38] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) |
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[20:40] <gour> ubottu: it's nice that you help people here ;) |
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[20:40] <ubottu> gour: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
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[20:41] <gour> ahh, i expected some more intelligence |
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[22:07] <Pieter> how can I pull all branches at once? |
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[22:07] <Verterok> Pieter: if you have bzrtools installed, bzr multi-pull |
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[22:08] <Pieter> right, thanks |
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[22:57] <lamalex> bzr won't add my directory! I do bzr add dirname and nothing happens |
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[22:57] <lamalex> it's listed as unknown in bzr status |
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