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[02:29] <artfwo> Hi! May I ask how to fix lintian warning about "debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink" in multi-binary CDBS package? |
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[02:50] <bddebian> Heya gang |
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[02:53] <RAOF> Howdie bddebian |
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[02:54] <bddebian> Heya RAOF |
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[03:56] <cheatr> Could someone review this perl module that I packaged? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=liblocale-hebrew-perl |
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[04:35] <LaserJock> anybody about that happens to use Jabber? |
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[04:35] <artfwo> LaserJock: i do |
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[04:36] <LaserJock> artfwo: are you running Hardy? |
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[04:36] <RAOF> As do I. |
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[04:36] <artfwo> yes |
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[04:36] <LaserJock> well, I'm having the weirdest situation right now |
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[04:36] <LaserJock> I've tried 3 gnome clients and all of them seem to connect but no people show up. I can't seen any contacts |
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[04:36] <artfwo> are these people currently offline? |
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[04:36] <LaserJock> but I tried 2 KDE/Qt clients and they both work fine |
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[04:37] <LaserJock> I have about 5 online people |
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[04:37] <LaserJock> but with the gnome clients I can't even see offline people |
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[04:37] <LaserJock> it's just blank |
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[04:37] <artfwo> what gnome clients did you try? |
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[04:37] <LaserJock> gajm, pidgin, and gossip |
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[04:38] <LaserJock> *gajim |
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[04:38] <RAOF> LaserJock: Tried empathy? That works for me; you'll need the telepathy-gabble package to have a jabber handler. |
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[04:38] * jdong is considering committing a cardinal sin over the summer... |
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[04:38] <jdong> that is, running opensuse 11 for the summer on my macbook |
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[04:38] <RAOF> jdong: Playing starcraft unto 3 in teh morning? |
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[04:38] <LaserJock> jdong: don't do it! |
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[04:38] <jdong> RAOF: that's just ditching exam studying ;-) |
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[04:38] <LaserJock> jdong: maybe try Fedora? |
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[04:38] <jdong> LaserJock: well... I gave fedora 9 a shot yesterday actually... my initial reactions are not positive |
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[04:39] <RAOF> Fedora looks fairly nice; I've got me a VM image that occasionally gets a run. |
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[04:39] <artfwo> LaserJock: very strange indeed, but did you try "show offline buddies" option? |
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[04:39] <jdong> LaserJock: I think I will hold off before saying much more in case my judgement changes |
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[04:39] <LaserJock> artfwo: yep |
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[04:39] <LaserJock> jdong: oh really? I really like Fedora 9 |
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[04:39] <jdong> but getting an error dialog that says "The relationship trust hierarchy is invalid" on the first set of updates.... |
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[04:39] <LaserJock> for me much better than openSUSE |
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[04:39] <jdong> the re-what? |
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[04:40] <jdong> it ended with "This dialog is a known bug. Do not report this. This will be fixed in the next UI rollout" |
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[04:40] <jdong> granted, I found it amusing |
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[04:40] <RAOF> Oooooh, owch. |
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[04:40] <jdong> and proceeded to use yum from the CLI |
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[04:40] <jdong> the overall polish and appearance is quite attractive |
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[04:40] <RAOF> Yay stable upgrades? |
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[04:40] <jdong> RAOF: oh don't GET ME STARTED |
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[04:41] <jdong> RAOF: it installs a policy kit update. Guess what it does when installing said update? |
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[04:41] <jdong> RAOF: it forcibly restarts dbus+hal, which actually cascaded into my whole X session crashing. |
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[04:41] <RAOF> Undoes all your configuration? |
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[04:41] <RAOF> Even better! |
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[04:41] <jdong> whee! |
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[04:41] <LaserJock> jdong: serious? |
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[04:41] <jdong> LaserJock: no joke.... |
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[04:41] <LaserJock> I've not had any problems with updates |
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[04:41] <RAOF> At least you get to test how well it recovers from half-configured packages. |
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[04:42] <jdong> RAOF: that, it seems to do remarkably well |
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[04:42] <pwnguin> packagekit? |
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[04:42] <LaserJock> RAOF: grrr, empathy does the same thing |
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[04:42] <jdong> pwnguin: well.. yeah. yum/rpm. |
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[04:42] <LaserJock> RAOF: it connects, but there's no contacts |
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[04:43] <RAOF> LaserJock: That's really, really wierd. |
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[04:43] <LaserJock> yumex is what I use mostly |
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[04:43] <RAOF> Because it *totally* works here. |
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[04:43] <LaserJock> packagekit can only install one package at a time |
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[04:43] <pwnguin> i donno. packagekit doesn't seem to offer anything significant versus update-manager |
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[04:43] <jdong> yeah ultimately I want to diversify my distro collection |
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[04:43] <artfwo> LaserJock: perhaps there's some global gnome option (like proxy), that all gnome client try to use? |
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[04:43] <jdong> particularly after *unmentioned Debian vulnerability.....* |
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[04:43] <LaserJock> RAOF: I have -proposed enabled. I wondered if something there killed it. But it'd be weird that all gnome clients would do it |
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[04:44] <jdong> FWIW, I'm using finch (libpurple) on hardy-proposed |
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[04:44] <jdong> and it seems to be fine |
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[04:44] <RAOF> LaserJock: I've got -proposed enabled, too. |
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[04:44] <LaserJock> bah |
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[04:44] <RAOF> Proxy craziness? |
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[04:44] <LaserJock> I don't have a proxy |
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[04:44] <LaserJock> and in the gnome proxy setting it says "Direct Internet Connection" |
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[04:45] <LaserJock> it's gotta be something like that though |
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[04:45] <LaserJock> I don't think all the gnome clients use the same libraries |
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[04:46] <RAOF> That's an obvious piece of desktop-specific shared config. |
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[04:48] <LaserJock> dang it, this is a brand new install, don't tell me I've screwed it up already :-) |
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[04:49] <artfwo> pidgin and gajim have an XMPP console, you can try to trace the problem with it |
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[04:49] <pwnguin> does jabber store contacts? |
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[04:50] <artfwo> pwnguin: of course |
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[04:51] <LaserJock> artfwo: ok, got the console, but there's nothing going on |
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[04:51] <LaserJock> you know how to use the console in pidgin? |
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[04:52] <artfwo> blah, it works only when you're logged in |
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[04:53] <artfwo> but pidgin --debug should do it |
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[04:54] <LaserJock> ah, after a while pidgin says it timed out |
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[04:55] <LaserJock> ok |
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[04:55] <LaserJock> using --debug I see all my contacts getting spit out to the terminal |
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[04:55] <LaserJock> but nothing shows up in the UI |
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[04:56] <artfwo> not that's even weirder |
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[04:56] <artfwo> *now |
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[04:57] <LaserJock> but now I get : <error code='503' type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/></error> |
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[04:57] <LaserJock> and then a bit later it disconnects |
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[04:58] <artfwo> I've got the same problem with jabber.org server in pidgin in the past |
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[04:58] <artfwo> sometimes it just kicked me off |
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[04:58] <artfwo> hence no contacts visible |
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[04:59] <LaserJock> ok |
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[04:59] <LaserJock> I know jabber.org just switched servers and they had some downtime |
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[04:59] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure how that would explain why the kopete and psi connected no problem |
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[04:59] <artfwo> are they connected now? |
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[05:00] <LaserJock> I only do one at a time |
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[05:00] <LaserJock> but yes, I just ran psi and it took just a second for all my contacts to come up |
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[05:01] <artfwo> i give up then :) |
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[05:03] <LaserJock> artfwo: I'm able to talk with Hobbsee via psi right now |
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[05:03] <LaserJock> it actually works |
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[05:05] <LaserJock> ok, well screw it. I'll just use kopete and try again tomorrow |
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[05:07] <artfwo> i've just logged to my old jabber.org account with pidgin, everything seems to be okay |
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[05:08] <LaserJock> I'll try a reboot and see if that possibly does anything, but other than that I'm stuck |
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[05:08] <LaserJock> perhaps I should sign up for a different account and try that too |
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[05:30] <LaserJock> ok, last ditch try I booted into Fedora and at least the buddy list shows up |
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[05:30] <LaserJock> but it says nobody is online which is a bit weird |
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[05:31] <LaserJock> oh wait, it just disconnected like on Ubuntu |
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[05:31] <RoAkSoAx> lol xD |
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[05:31] <LaserJock> well, I'm going to say it's some weird jabber.org problem for now |
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[06:36] <emgent> heya |
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[09:33] <siretart> superm1: TheMuso: could you please tell me your plans about vlc? |
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[09:34] <siretart> I noticed that the package has seriously diverged from debian (7.5M diff) |
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[09:34] <siretart> and it needs to be rebuilt against the new ffmpeg |
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[09:42] <wgrant> siretart: VLC in Ubuntu has a couple of embedded source packages (real Ubuntu source packages, not bits of upstream source) that shouldn't be embedded. |
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[09:43] <siretart> wgrant: I didn't look at the package for quite some time, but that's my impression, yes |
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