| [02:29] <artfwo> Hi! May I ask how to fix lintian warning about "debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink" in multi-binary CDBS package? | |
| [02:50] <bddebian> Heya gang | |
| [02:53] <RAOF> Howdie bddebian | |
| [02:54] <bddebian> Heya RAOF | |
| [03:56] <cheatr> Could someone review this perl module that I packaged? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=liblocale-hebrew-perl | |
| [04:35] <LaserJock> anybody about that happens to use Jabber? | |
| [04:35] <artfwo> LaserJock: i do | |
| [04:36] <LaserJock> artfwo: are you running Hardy? | |
| [04:36] <RAOF> As do I. | |
| [04:36] <artfwo> yes | |
| [04:36] <LaserJock> well, I'm having the weirdest situation right now | |
| [04:36] <LaserJock> I've tried 3 gnome clients and all of them seem to connect but no people show up. I can't seen any contacts | |
| [04:36] <artfwo> are these people currently offline? | |
| [04:36] <LaserJock> but I tried 2 KDE/Qt clients and they both work fine | |
| [04:37] <LaserJock> I have about 5 online people | |
| [04:37] <LaserJock> but with the gnome clients I can't even see offline people | |
| [04:37] <LaserJock> it's just blank | |
| [04:37] <artfwo> what gnome clients did you try? | |
| [04:37] <LaserJock> gajm, pidgin, and gossip | |
| [04:38] <LaserJock> *gajim | |
| [04:38] <RAOF> LaserJock: Tried empathy? That works for me; you'll need the telepathy-gabble package to have a jabber handler. | |
| [04:38] * jdong is considering committing a cardinal sin over the summer... | |
| [04:38] <jdong> that is, running opensuse 11 for the summer on my macbook | |
| [04:38] <RAOF> jdong: Playing starcraft unto 3 in teh morning? | |
| [04:38] <LaserJock> jdong: don't do it! | |
| [04:38] <jdong> RAOF: that's just ditching exam studying ;-) | |
| [04:38] <LaserJock> jdong: maybe try Fedora? | |
| [04:38] <jdong> LaserJock: well... I gave fedora 9 a shot yesterday actually... my initial reactions are not positive | |
| [04:39] <RAOF> Fedora looks fairly nice; I've got me a VM image that occasionally gets a run. | |
| [04:39] <artfwo> LaserJock: very strange indeed, but did you try "show offline buddies" option? | |
| [04:39] <jdong> LaserJock: I think I will hold off before saying much more in case my judgement changes | |
| [04:39] <LaserJock> artfwo: yep | |
| [04:39] <LaserJock> jdong: oh really? I really like Fedora 9 | |
| [04:39] <jdong> but getting an error dialog that says "The relationship trust hierarchy is invalid" on the first set of updates.... | |
| [04:39] <LaserJock> for me much better than openSUSE | |
| [04:39] <jdong> the re-what? | |
| [04:40] <jdong> it ended with "This dialog is a known bug. Do not report this. This will be fixed in the next UI rollout" | |
| [04:40] <jdong> granted, I found it amusing | |
| [04:40] <RAOF> Oooooh, owch. | |
| [04:40] <jdong> and proceeded to use yum from the CLI | |
| [04:40] <jdong> the overall polish and appearance is quite attractive | |
| [04:40] <RAOF> Yay stable upgrades? | |
| [04:40] <jdong> RAOF: oh don't GET ME STARTED | |
| [04:41] <jdong> RAOF: it installs a policy kit update. Guess what it does when installing said update? | |
| [04:41] <jdong> RAOF: it forcibly restarts dbus+hal, which actually cascaded into my whole X session crashing. | |
| [04:41] <RAOF> Undoes all your configuration? | |
| [04:41] <RAOF> Even better! | |
| [04:41] <jdong> whee! | |
| [04:41] <LaserJock> jdong: serious? | |
| [04:41] <jdong> LaserJock: no joke.... | |
| [04:41] <LaserJock> I've not had any problems with updates | |
| [04:41] <RAOF> At least you get to test how well it recovers from half-configured packages. | |
| [04:42] <jdong> RAOF: that, it seems to do remarkably well | |
| [04:42] <pwnguin> packagekit? | |
| [04:42] <LaserJock> RAOF: grrr, empathy does the same thing | |
| [04:42] <jdong> pwnguin: well.. yeah. yum/rpm. | |
| [04:42] <LaserJock> RAOF: it connects, but there's no contacts | |
| [04:43] <RAOF> LaserJock: That's really, really wierd. | |
| [04:43] <LaserJock> yumex is what I use mostly | |
| [04:43] <RAOF> Because it *totally* works here. | |
| [04:43] <LaserJock> packagekit can only install one package at a time | |
| [04:43] <pwnguin> i donno. packagekit doesn't seem to offer anything significant versus update-manager | |
| [04:43] <jdong> yeah ultimately I want to diversify my distro collection | |
| [04:43] <artfwo> LaserJock: perhaps there's some global gnome option (like proxy), that all gnome client try to use? | |
| [04:43] <jdong> particularly after *unmentioned Debian vulnerability.....* | |
| [04:43] <LaserJock> RAOF: I have -proposed enabled. I wondered if something there killed it. But it'd be weird that all gnome clients would do it | |
| [04:44] <jdong> FWIW, I'm using finch (libpurple) on hardy-proposed | |
| [04:44] <jdong> and it seems to be fine | |
| [04:44] <RAOF> LaserJock: I've got -proposed enabled, too. | |
| [04:44] <LaserJock> bah | |
| [04:44] <RAOF> Proxy craziness? | |
| [04:44] <LaserJock> I don't have a proxy | |
| [04:44] <LaserJock> and in the gnome proxy setting it says "Direct Internet Connection" | |
| [04:45] <LaserJock> it's gotta be something like that though | |
| [04:45] <LaserJock> I don't think all the gnome clients use the same libraries | |
| [04:46] <RAOF> That's an obvious piece of desktop-specific shared config. | |
| [04:48] <LaserJock> dang it, this is a brand new install, don't tell me I've screwed it up already :-) | |
| [04:49] <artfwo> pidgin and gajim have an XMPP console, you can try to trace the problem with it | |
| [04:49] <pwnguin> does jabber store contacts? | |
| [04:50] <artfwo> pwnguin: of course | |
| [04:51] <LaserJock> artfwo: ok, got the console, but there's nothing going on | |
| [04:51] <LaserJock> you know how to use the console in pidgin? | |
| [04:52] <artfwo> blah, it works only when you're logged in | |
| [04:53] <artfwo> but pidgin --debug should do it | |
| [04:54] <LaserJock> ah, after a while pidgin says it timed out | |
| [04:55] <LaserJock> ok | |
| [04:55] <LaserJock> using --debug I see all my contacts getting spit out to the terminal | |
| [04:55] <LaserJock> but nothing shows up in the UI | |
| [04:56] <artfwo> not that's even weirder | |
| [04:56] <artfwo> *now | |
| [04:57] <LaserJock> but now I get : <error code='503' type='cancel'><service-unavailable xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/></error> | |
| [04:57] <LaserJock> and then a bit later it disconnects | |
| [04:58] <artfwo> I've got the same problem with jabber.org server in pidgin in the past | |
| [04:58] <artfwo> sometimes it just kicked me off | |
| [04:58] <artfwo> hence no contacts visible | |
| [04:59] <LaserJock> ok | |
| [04:59] <LaserJock> I know jabber.org just switched servers and they had some downtime | |
| [04:59] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure how that would explain why the kopete and psi connected no problem | |
| [04:59] <artfwo> are they connected now? | |
| [05:00] <LaserJock> I only do one at a time | |
| [05:00] <LaserJock> but yes, I just ran psi and it took just a second for all my contacts to come up | |
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| [05:01] <artfwo> i give up then :) | |
| [05:03] <LaserJock> artfwo: I'm able to talk with Hobbsee via psi right now | |
| [05:03] <LaserJock> it actually works | |
| [05:05] <LaserJock> ok, well screw it. I'll just use kopete and try again tomorrow | |
| [05:07] <artfwo> i've just logged to my old jabber.org account with pidgin, everything seems to be okay | |
| [05:08] <LaserJock> I'll try a reboot and see if that possibly does anything, but other than that I'm stuck | |
| [05:08] <LaserJock> perhaps I should sign up for a different account and try that too | |
| [05:30] <LaserJock> ok, last ditch try I booted into Fedora and at least the buddy list shows up | |
| [05:30] <LaserJock> but it says nobody is online which is a bit weird | |
| [05:31] <LaserJock> oh wait, it just disconnected like on Ubuntu | |
| [05:31] <RoAkSoAx> lol xD | |
| [05:31] <LaserJock> well, I'm going to say it's some weird jabber.org problem for now | |
| [06:36] <emgent> heya | |
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| [09:33] <siretart> superm1: TheMuso: could you please tell me your plans about vlc? | |
| [09:34] <siretart> I noticed that the package has seriously diverged from debian (7.5M diff) | |
| [09:34] <siretart> and it needs to be rebuilt against the new ffmpeg | |
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| [09:42] <wgrant> siretart: VLC in Ubuntu has a couple of embedded source packages (real Ubuntu source packages, not bits of upstream source) that shouldn't be embedded. | |
| [09:43] <siretart> wgrant: I didn't look at the package for quite some time, but that's my impression, yes | |