| [00:23] <daskReech> Nightrose: Great shirt! | |
| [00:23] <Nightrose> hehe thanks | |
| [00:24] <daskReech> (He says as they stand in front of a shop selling shirts) | |
| [00:24] <Nightrose> :P | |
| [00:24] <daskReech> Which reminds me. | |
| [00:24] * daskReech sighs | |
| [00:25] <daskReech> Man KDE is going to turn me into shirt wearing billboard whore | |
| [00:25] <Nightrose> rofl | |
| [00:25] <daskReech> Akonadi has a great T-Shirt! | |
| [00:25] <Nightrose> ohhh where? | |
| [00:26] <daskReech> Haven't seen it? | |
| [00:26] <Nightrose> nope - i am still catching up after fosscamp | |
| [00:26] <Nightrose> not read planets and stuff yet | |
| [00:26] <Nightrose> i am at emails right now ;-) - rss feeds after that | |
| [00:27] <daskReech> http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2008/05/voodoo-that-we-do.html | |
| [00:27] <Nightrose> thx | |
| [00:27] <Nightrose> sweetness | |
| [00:27] <daskReech> yes it is | |
| [00:28] <daskReech> I just need a Amarok T-Shirt with Glow in the dark wolf to top it now | |
| [00:28] <Nightrose> hehe | |
| [00:32] <daskReech> Man I miss Akregator | |
| [00:33] <Jucato> why not use akregator? | |
| [00:34] <daskReech> hasn't been ported as stable yet | |
| [00:35] <daskReech> I could compile I guess | |
| [00:35] <Jucato> works ok here | |
| [00:35] <daskReech> You are running trunk :-P | |
| [00:36] <Jucato> yeah | |
| [00:41] <daskReech> :-p | |
| [00:43] <daskReech> how is it :( | |
| [00:43] <Jucato> until yesterday, there was a khtml bug that made akregator annoying to use. now it's less annoying (but still some problems) | |
| [00:44] <daskReech> Wht's it? | |
| [00:44] <Jucato> some rendering problem. kinda hard to explain. the thing to know is that it seems to be gone now :) | |
| [00:46] <daskReech> With Forms? | |
| [00:46] <daskReech> Forms have been giving me hell on 4.0.4 | |
| [00:46] <Nightrose> daskReech: i am working on that | |
| [00:46] <Nightrose> just had no time due to fosscamp | |
| [00:46] <Nightrose> but it is on my todo list | |
| [00:46] <Jucato> no, plain rendering in the preview pane | |
| [00:46] <daskReech> I know | |
| [00:47] <daskReech> Qt 4.4 regression | |
| [00:47] <Nightrose> ok ;-) | |
| [00:47] <Nightrose> yea | |
| [00:47] <daskReech> hmm | |
| [00:47] <daskReech> what's the name of the Webkit test browser I eep hearing about? | |
| [00:47] <Jucato> Arora? | |
| [00:48] <daskReech> ahok Never heard it called by name | |
| [00:50] <Jucato> well I think that's separate from the QtWebKit demo that comes with Qt 4 (if you compile it with demos) | |
| [00:50] <daskReech> yeah I know | |
| [00:50] * daskReech still isn't fond of Webkit until it has invoked access keys | |
| [00:51] <Jucato> so what do you "not" know :) | |
| [00:52] <daskReech> oh right | |
| [00:52] <daskReech> seele: ping | |
| [00:52] <daskReech> I don't know if the categorized view in Doplhin has plans to be collapsble | |
| [00:52] <Nightrose> daskReech: i doubt she is awake - she was pretty tired when she arrived | |
| [00:54] <daskReech> aww ok well I'll feel out what the users think then :) | |
| [00:54] <daskReech> Anyonehas thoughts on tabs in System settings ? | |
| [00:55] <daskReech> Jucato: BTW I hear teh keyboard works in it now! Wohoo!!! | |
| [00:55] <Jucato> it does | |
| [00:57] <daskReech> sweet that's one of three things i want to see fixed down | |
| [01:01] <daskReech> Jucato: Don't suppose search eliminates non matches ? | |
| [01:01] <Jucato> of course it does | |
| [01:02] <daskReech> really? | |
| [01:02] <daskReech> not just grey them out ? | |
| [01:02] <Jucato> it doesn't show how many "hits" in General and Advanced though | |
| [01:02] <Jucato> yeah. as in non-matches go poof | |
| [01:02] <daskReech> Serious? that's two :) | |
| [01:02] <daskReech> So the only other thing is to have it merge general and adavnced now | |
| [01:03] <daskReech> Since if you are searching you should have an idea of what you want but not where | |
| [01:03] <daskReech> so it doesn't make sense to have them split like that | |
| [01:04] <Jucato> don't hold your breath | |
| [01:07] <daskReech> people are opposed to that? | |
| [01:16] <daskReech> Jucato: Hey do you know anything about Hardy booting to a black screen intermittenly ? | |
| [01:20] <jjesse> evening | |
| [01:21] <daskReech> hey jjesse | |
| [01:21] <jjesse> hello daskReech | |
| [01:21] <Jucato> daskReech: no I don't know anything | |
| [01:21] <daskReech> How are you? | |
| [01:22] <jjesse> daskReech: doing well, just got back from my wifes first baby shower | |
| [01:22] <jjesse> lots of loot | |
| [01:22] <daskReech> Whoot :) | |
| [01:22] <jjesse> totally | |
| [01:22] <jjesse> morning Jucato | |
| [01:22] <Jucato> good evening jjesse! | |
| [01:23] <jjesse> how are you Jucato | |
| [01:23] <Jucato> good good. and you? :) | |
| [01:23] <Jucato> which country/state are you in right now? :D | |
| [01:23] <jjesse> good, busy getting ready for baby | |
| [01:23] <jjesse> i'm at home, michigan united states | |
| [01:24] <Jucato> ah hehe :) | |
| [01:24] <Jucato> good good :) | |
| [01:24] <jjesse> i have one week in columbus ohio last week of may and then i'm home for 2 months due to baby arriving in june | |
| [01:24] <Jucato> woot!! new kubuntu baby!! :) | |
| [01:24] <jjesse> totally | |
| [01:24] <jjesse> did i not tell everyone? | |
| [01:24] <Jucato> :D | |
| [01:24] <jjesse> sorry bout that | |
| [01:25] <Jucato> well I didn't know. like I said, I know nothing :) | |
| [01:25] <jjesse> i thought i posted that when i turned down uds-prague | |
| [01:25] <Jucato> the others might have a clue :D | |
| [01:25] <jjesse> wife didn't want me on the other side of th world w/ only 5 weeks to go | |
| [01:25] <daskReech> awwwww that's thoughtful :) | |
| [01:25] <jjesse> hope fully will make it to uds-intrepid+1 | |
| [01:25] <Jucato> oh I haven't been reading planet ubuntu much lately | |
| [01:26] <jjesse> Jucato: it was a copule of months ago | |
| [01:26] <daskReech> Jumping jackalope ? | |
| [01:26] <Jucato> oh? | |
| [01:26] <jjesse> daskReech: beat me to it, was just thinking the same | |
| [01:27] <daskReech> jjesse: I'll come up with something better soon But I like jumping jackalope :) | |
| [01:27] <jjesse> +1 for me | |
| [01:27] <Jucato> jjesse: " I did recently receive my nomination to be included as part of UDS-Intrepid, the next Ubuntu Developer Summit in Prague Czech Republic. As I can’t attend due to family reasons, I noticed the link for the next summit is up already." | |
| [01:27] <jjesse> ah i didn't say what family reasons | |
| [01:27] <Jucato> :D | |
| [01:28] <jjesse> are they doing the gobby sessions and ip phone stuff for uds-intrepid? i've seen no announcemnts on that | |
| [01:29] * daskReech pulls up his kobby mailing list | |
| [01:29] <daskReech> I should really do some wiking on this | |
| [01:29] <jjesse> kobby? | |
| [01:29] <jjesse> a qt version of gobby? | |
| [01:30] <daskReech> Nope | |
| [01:30] <daskReech> A billion times better | |
| [01:30] <jjesse> yeah? | |
| [01:31] <daskReech> Yeah :-) | |
| [01:31] <daskReech> soon as it's coded | |
| [01:31] <Jucato> a.k.a. doesn't exist yet? :) | |
| [01:31] <Jucato> see? :P | |
| [01:31] <daskReech> Jucato: you are wise beyond your years | |
| [01:32] <Jucato> yes.. beyond my ears | |
| [01:32] <daskReech> jjesse: The idea is it's a framework | |
| [01:32] <daskReech> so any document minded app can enable it | |
| [01:32] <jjesse> cool | |
| [01:32] <daskReech> works with decibel so you can chat in say kate | |
| [01:32] * Jucato believes he has read a GSoC proposal like that... or something | |
| [01:32] <daskReech> yeah :) | |
| [01:32] <daskReech> andreas is the head | |
| [01:33] <daskReech> jjesse: But you can collaborate with say kate and Kdevlop | |
| [01:33] <daskReech> Or kwrite and kword | |
| [01:33] <daskReech> or..... | |
| [01:33] <daskReech> between two krita | |
| [01:33] <jjesse> googling right now | |
| [01:33] <daskReech> or two karbon 14 | |
| [01:34] <daskReech> KollaborationFrame | |
| [01:34] <jjesse> daskReech: are you a GSoC? | |
| [01:34] <daskReech> no I was working on this from before | |
| [01:34] <Jucato> I doubt he's even pseudocode :) | |
| [01:34] <Jucato> much less summer of code :) | |
| [01:35] <daskReech> but quite a few people submitted to GSoC | |
| [01:35] <daskReech> honestly it happens every year | |
| [01:35] <daskReech> Now there is a much better project for it to fall under | |
| [01:36] <daskReech> and we try and keep all intrested parties involved or at least updated | |
| [01:36] <daskReech> which is how the krita guys came in | |
| [01:37] <daskReech> I dn't think any of us were thinking about a paint progam for collab | |
| [01:37] <daskReech> And we have Gnome people contributing as well | |
| [01:37] <daskReech> so it's a lot of ideas being thrashed | |
| [01:37] <jjesse> cool, nice to see so much collab | |
| [01:37] <Jucato> make it an FD.o shit | |
| [01:37] <Jucato> er.. s/shit/thing/ | |
| [01:37] <daskReech> Exactly | |
| [01:38] <Jucato> sorry | |
| [01:39] <daskReech> i want to have a lightweight server in each app which can be flicked on with a toolbar button | |
| [01:40] <daskReech> as opposed to the Gobby scenario where you must have a heavy server | |
| [01:40] <daskReech> there are very useful scenarios for the heavy server though (persistence, confrences) so that's obvioulsy going to be done as well | |
| [01:41] <jjesse> seems very ambitious | |
| [01:41] <daskReech> that's why we ar starting with kobby :) | |
| [01:41] <daskReech> but keeping all the players in the loop | |
| [01:41] <Jucato> very :) | |
| [01:42] <daskReech> Koffice is very interested | |
| [01:42] <Jucato> hope it works | |
| [01:42] <daskReech> Kdevelop would love this too | |
| [01:42] <daskReech> they actually have a collaborative framework already in code | |
| [01:42] <Jucato> dude... any app would love it :) | |
| [01:42] <Jucato> (except for klipper...) | |
| [01:42] <daskReech> Jucato: But with KDE they can all share code :-) and implement it trivially | |
| [01:42] <daskReech> I love KDE :) | |
| [01:43] <daskReech> kgpg ? | |
| [01:43] * Jucato loves GNOME | |
| [01:43] <Jucato> it's the GNU Network Object Model Environment!! what's not to love about that! | |
| [01:44] <daskReech> the object section | |
| [01:44] <Jucato> huh what? | |
| [01:45] <daskReech> :-) | |
| [01:45] <daskReech> at least you don't like Windows | |
| [01:45] <Jucato> KDE should be KODE, the Kool Object Desktop Environment | |
| [01:45] <Jucato> says who? | |
| [01:45] * daskReech crowds in a corner and looks at nixternal | |
| [01:45] <jjesse> what is networkable about GNOME? | |
| [01:45] <Jucato> I'm with nixternal | |
| [01:45] <Jucato> jjesse: the browser | |
| [01:45] <Jucato> :) | |
| [01:45] <daskReech> Gobby! :) | |
| [01:45] <Jucato> Epiphany ftw!! | |
| [01:46] <daskReech> though.. I should stop using gtk = GNOME | |
| [01:46] <Jucato> indeed | |
| [01:46] <daskReech> Oh other ting I was wondering | |
| [01:46] <daskReech> well two things | |
| [01:47] <daskReech> is anyone going to pick up Qtparted? | |
| [01:47] <daskReech> gparted is pretty much dead | |
| [01:47] <jjesse> i've used GNOME, just doesn't do things the way i want it to | |
| [01:47] <jjesse> gparted is dead? i love gparted | |
| [01:47] <daskReech> lets say stalled | |
| [01:47] <daskReech> no devs on the project | |
| [01:47] <jjesse> that bootable cd has saved my a$$ | |
| [01:47] <daskReech> I know | |
| [01:47] * Jucato actually uses the Ubuntu CD whenever he needs to partition :) | |
| [01:48] <daskReech> well most bootable CDs focused on some job use Gtk as the basis. Why wouldn't a KDE environment be better for a Live Cd? | |
| [01:48] <daskReech> would it make sense to have some scripts that allowed you to build a KDE live Cd in a failry trivial manner ? | |
| [01:49] <daskReech> that's aside from the qtParted question. I just really think that we should have a fairly robust native Disk management section for System Settigns | |
| [01:49] * Nightrose pokes jjesse | |
| [01:50] <daskReech> and since Gparted is stalled probably a call to move Qtparted up in the visibilty of really cool apps ? | |
| [01:50] <daskReech> Jucato: I went into #compiz-fusion and asked if there was a replacement for Korroa and they told me Ubuntu hardy :0 | |
| [01:51] <Jucato> :D | |
| [01:51] <Jucato> I would have thought they would say Sabayon | |
| [01:53] <daskReech> I went into ##apple to ask something about disk management using Leopard and they asked me why would I do that? Get a Ubuntu cd and manage it then reboot into mac OSX | |
| [01:53] <Jucato> lol | |
| [01:53] <Jucato> very Linux-friendly | |
| [01:53] <Jucato> or should I say, "Ubuntu-friendly" | |
| [01:54] <daskReech> I know! It's like the answer to all problems in all channels is well Ubuntu can do that | |
| [01:54] <daskReech> The live CD thing is kinda bugging me though | |
| [01:55] <jjesse> why can i never get my kubuntu vm in windows to never be the right screen size | |
| [01:55] <jjesse> very frustrating | |
| [01:55] <jjesse> the "auto-fit" doesn't seem to work as it does with windows | |
| [01:56] * Jucato is going to try andLinux one of these days | |
| [01:58] <daskReech> #magiclinux | |
| [01:58] <jjesse> i've been playing with SuSE Enterprise Linux for a bit now | |
| [01:58] <jjesse> pretty nice, but can't get my wireless card to work | |
| [02:05] <daskReech> You know what? I can't get kdesudo to work | |
| [02:05] <daskReech> it will never find the command I pass to it | |
| [02:07] <jjesse> thats a bummer | |
| [02:10] <daskReech> I'll see if it's a general kde4 bug | |
| [02:11] <Jucato> (there's no kdesudo in kde4 ;) | |
| [02:11] <jjesse> what? | |
| [02:11] * Jucato is hinting that kdesudo is a Kubuntu thing :) | |
| [02:11] <jjesse> ah | |
| [02:11] <Jucato> :D | |
| [02:14] <daskReech> Jucato: I know I meant I don't know if it works in KDE3 on hardy | |
| [02:14] <daskReech> but I seem to have hit a few people in #kubuntu-kde4 who get the same thing | |
| [02:14] <Jucato> gotta love kdesudo :) | |
| [02:15] <jjesse> daskReech: like trying to run kcmshell4 stuff with kdesude | |
| [02:15] <jjesse> kdesudo | |
| [02:16] <daskReech> jjesse: Hmm? | |
| [02:16] <daskReech> kdesudo * fails | |
| [02:16] <jjesse> i've given up configuing network shares through system settings | |
| [02:16] <daskReech> anything you put there will not be found | |
| [02:17] <daskReech> hmm let me try full paths | |
| [02:17] <jjesse> epic fail | |
| [02:18] <jjesse> i've bugged it on bugs.kde.org | |
| [02:18] <jjesse> dont remember the last comment | |
| [02:18] <Jucato> one day I'm going to write an epic.... and title it "Fail" | |
| [02:18] <jjesse> probally was compile it from trunk | |
| [02:18] <daskReech> Ha ha KDE4 apps are not in the path | |
| [02:19] <daskReech> Course that's nearly all the GUI apps I have | |
| [02:19] <Jucato> hm... | |
| [02:19] <Jucato> shouldn't you be feeding it with the *-kde4 counterpart that's in /usr/bin? | |
| [02:20] <jjesse> daskReech: bug 160123 on bugs.kde.org | |
| [02:20] <daskReech> feeding what? | |
| [02:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 160123 in compiz "[gutsy] Screen flickering when playing videos" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160123 | |
| [02:20] <Jucato> feedking kdesudo | |
| [02:20] <jjesse> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160123 | |
| [02:20] <daskReech> probably | |
| [02:20] <ubottu> KDE bug 160123 in general "In system settings with Samba installed, click on Samba under System section crashes" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | |
| [02:20] <Jucato> I've been seeing people recommending running the binary direct from the kde4 directory (it's /usr/lib/kde4 right?) | |
| [02:20] <daskReech> Jucato: Yeah that works | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> I tried to think of a non KDE gui app I have | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> \o/ xeyes | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> kdesudo xeyes works | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> kdesudo systemsettings doesn't | |
| [02:21] <Jucato> I think the problem would be that the direct path doesn't set the correct variables that the *-kde4 script in /usr/bin/ does | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> Right | |
| [02:21] <Jucato> kdesudo systemsettings-kde4? | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> so I have the eyes of root following me now | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> Jucato: Nope | |
| [02:21] <daskReech> jsut systemsettings | |
| [02:22] <Jucato> that would run the kde3 systemsettings wouldn't it? | |
| [02:22] <daskReech> I have no KDE3 libs at all on my computer | |
| [02:22] <daskReech> X and KDE4 libs | |
| [02:22] <daskReech> that is all | |
| [02:22] <jjesse> ok off to walk my dog | |
| [02:22] <Jucato> ah | |
| [02:23] <Jucato> bye jjesse | |
| [02:23] <daskReech> Jucato: remember the Pure KDE4 discussion? | |
| [02:23] <daskReech> and me missing Bsket? | |
| [02:23] <Jucato> yeah | |
| [02:23] <daskReech> Well I do it sucks But I miss akregator as well | |
| [02:23] <daskReech> Mynd helps with basket but ... | |
| [02:45] <seele> daskReech: pong | |
| [02:45] <seele> hmm.. i should try to sleep for a few more hours | |
| [02:46] <Jucato> seele: go!! daskReech is not that important to lose sleep over :) | |
| [02:47] <daskReech> seele: sleep I'll talk to you in the future | |
| [02:51] <daskReech> Jucato: Ah another bug that irritated me. Can Gwenview save now? | |
| [02:51] <Jucato> save? | |
| [02:52] <seele> daskReech: you mean Save As? | |
| [02:52] <Jucato> gwenview has one of the purtiest UI's :) | |
| [02:54] <daskReech> Yeah | |
| [02:54] <daskReech> seele: Sleep! I'll be tempted to talk to you if you hang around here | |
| [02:55] <Jucato> nope. it can't | |
| [02:55] <Jucato> weird :) | |
| [02:55] <daskReech> so whats a pretty thing like you hanging around a place like this for anyway? ;-) | |
| [02:55] <daskReech> grrrr | |
| [03:41] <daskReech> Jucato: Bugging you again :) | |
| [03:41] <daskReech> can you mousewheel in File Selecor dialogs? | |
| [03:42] <Jucato> daskReech: open/save file dialogs? | |
| [03:44] <Jucato> mousewheel in what sense? | |
| [03:47] <daskReech> When I mousewheel in the dialog it doesn't scroll through the contents I have to use the scroll bar | |
| [03:47] <daskReech> nothing else makes it move | |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | |
| [04:13] <nixternal> quit talking about me when I am not around :p | |
| [04:15] <daskReech> Jucato_: You hear someone? sounds like someone was typing | |
| [04:46] <daskReech> Jucato_: Hey loooked who popped up in #kubuntu | |
| === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | |
| [04:47] <Jucato> daskReech: ping | |
| [04:48] <daskReech> Jucato: pong | |
| [04:48] <Jucato> do you mean the selection doesn't move from 1 item to another or the whole view doesn't scroll down/up? | |
| [04:49] <daskReech> Nothing moves when I mouse whell | |
| [04:49] <daskReech> eel | |
| [04:49] <daskReech> wheel | |
| [04:49] <Jucato> eel | |
| [04:50] <Jucato> moves here. I set the view to be detailed view so that I have unseen items, then I mouse wheel to scroll up/down | |
| [04:50] <daskReech> hmm let me try that | |
| [04:51] <daskReech> Jucato: mm I guess looking at it like that it makes sense | |
| [04:51] <daskReech> F6 won't scroll but F7 will | |
| [04:52] <Jucato> it scrolls here (sideways) | |
| [04:52] <daskReech> Hmm | |
| [04:52] <daskReech> doesn't here | |
| [04:52] <Jucato> so might be fixed in trunk | |
| [04:53] <Jucato> if there's nothing else, we can start talking about nixternal while he's not here | |
| [04:53] <nixternal> I am here | |
| [04:53] <Jucato> ok stopping :) | |
| [04:53] <nixternal> talking in another channel about good ol' navy times :p | |
| [04:53] <Jucato> hahah | |
| [04:53] <Jucato> in the navy!! | |
| [04:53] <Jucato> isn't there a song like that? YMCA song? | |
| [04:53] <daskReech> One of those descriptions is a lie!!! | |
| [04:53] <daskReech> Yeah | |
| [04:54] <Jucato> er.. village people I mean | |
| [04:54] <daskReech> nixternal dresses up for it all the time | |
| [04:54] <nixternal> my uniforms wouldn't fit me if I tried | |
| [04:54] <Jucato> I can only imagine :) | |
| [04:54] <Jucato> you must be *very* small back then if that's the case :) | |
| [04:54] <Jucato> er no.. *very* normal (size) | |
| [04:55] <Jucato> btw, tron guy went to UDS? | |
| [04:55] <Jucato> is that the same tron guy you posed with? | |
| [04:55] <daskReech> :-) | |
| [04:55] <Jucato> oh crap this "Restore Session?" dialog box is annoying me! | |
| [04:55] <nixternal> Jucato: yes...jono was at penguicon too | |
| [04:56] <Jucato> but I don't want to disable it because, knowing konq, I won't be able to get it back when I need it | |
| [04:56] <nixternal> we were the drunk crowd | |
| [04:56] <nixternal> me, jorge, jono, and the entire michigan loco were stupid drunk 99.9% of the time | |
| [04:57] <nixternal> I wish I had video of jorge on that friday night....me, jono, and mako laughed so damn hard we about we ourselves | |
| [04:57] <Jucato> :D | |
| [04:57] <Jucato> we about we ourselves? :) | |
| [04:57] <daskReech> wii | |
| [04:57] <Jucato> I thought so :) | |
| [04:57] * Jucato thinks someone's still drunk :D | |
| [04:57] <nixternal> wet | |
| [04:57] <Jucato> aaaah | |
| [04:57] <Jucato> wee as in pee :) | |
| [04:58] <nixternal> I wish jono would post the pics he has of us at penguicon...I know he has one of me standing up on a barstool with my hat sideways rapping to mc hammer or something | |
| [04:58] <Jucato> hm... I just love these "Don't show again" dialog boxes.. that really have no way of showing again once you set it... | |
| [04:58] <nixternal> and I know he has mako and mika getting rickrolled | |
| [04:59] <Jucato> well I still have that pic of you and jorge on my disk | |
| [04:59] <Jucato> blackmail material | |
| [04:59] <nixternal> hehe, the world has that one | |
| [05:00] <Jucato> not easily accessible/discoverable :) | |
| [05:00] * Jucato can make it so, by putting it in his sig in every post he makes to the planets or mailing lists or forums :) | |
| [05:04] <daskReech> Ha ha | |
| [05:07] <nixternal> hahahaha | |
| [05:08] <nixternal> I can easily make a gimp'd image of ya and post it for the world to see! | |
| [05:08] <daskReech> give him big Gnome feet :-) | |
| [05:08] <Jucato> nothing beats "the real thing" TM of course :) | |
| [05:08] <nixternal> there are a couple of webcam shots of ya, I can easily gimp that in and put you on some live adult chat website :p | |
| [05:09] * Jucato doesn't even have a webcam :) | |
| [05:09] <daskReech> Hmm that might give him a side income while he IRCes | |
| [05:09] <Jucato> great idea!! :) | |
| [05:09] * Jucato amuses himself with Magical Trevor vids in the meantime | |
| [05:22] <nixternal> hahahahaha | |
| [05:23] * daskReech slowly reads through aseigos' response | |
| [05:24] <nixternal> hehe | |
| [05:24] <nixternal> just finished it myself | |
| [05:35] <nixternal> damn, no UDS VoIP this time around..that stinks | |
| [05:38] * nixternal beds | |
| [05:49] <daskReech> Nightrose: in bed? | |
| [05:50] <mhb> mornin | |
| [05:51] <mhb> 06:52 | |
| [05:51] <mhb> the bad thing about UDS is that it's not really around the corner :o) but still better than somewhere in the U.S. :o) | |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | |
| [06:04] <mhb> good morning ScottK-uds | |
| [06:04] <ScottK-uds> Good morning. | |
| [06:07] <mhb> hmm hmm, finally a schedule up on the wiki.ubuntu.com UDS site | |
| [06:09] <ScottK-uds> Don't get to attached to it. It changes a lot. | |
| [06:09] <mhb> right. | |
| [06:09] <mhb> so there'll be stuff for us Kubuntu folks to do, contrary to what is says, I hope :o) | |
| [06:10] <mhb> s/ is / it / | |
| [06:11] <mhb> should I wear anything formal-ish or is a t-shirt okay? | |
| [06:12] <mhb> well I guess there's no need for that, but just making sure :o) | |
| [06:12] <ScottK-uds> Just make sure the T-shirt isn't too formal. ;-) | |
| [06:18] <ScottK-uds> mhb: One thing we need to keep in mind for UDS is looking at things Ubuntu is doing that we ought to do to, so we aren't 'behind'. | |
| [06:18] <mhb> that's true. | |
| [06:19] * mhb is feeling a bit nervous | |
| [06:19] <mhb> this "going into a new environment" always gets me. | |
| [06:19] <ScottK-uds> mhb: It's OK to feel excited. Don't feel nervous. | |
| [06:20] * ScottK-uds goes off to get ready ... | |
| [06:23] <mhb> ScottK-uds: it's the shy me :o) | |
| [06:31] <mhb> just in case: this is what I may look like: http://mhb.ath.cx/tmp/me.jpg | |
| [06:31] <mhb> so if you notice me there, please say hello :o) | |
| [06:32] <daskReech> T-shirt is waaay to formal | |
| [06:32] <daskReech> bermuda shorts top | |
| [06:32] <mhb> daskReech: right, but I can't go out there in shorts, it's too cold :o) | |
| [06:32] <yuriy> yuck internet died | |
| [06:32] <mhb> rest in peace | |
| [06:32] <mhb> I'm going to miss it | |
| [06:33] <mhb> but now... UDS time! I have to get there, see you folks there, or in this channel in an hour or so :o) | |
| [06:33] <daskReech> :) | |
| [06:34] <yuriy> Riddell: firefox integration is much of a problem. I think it's one of the most common complaints about kubuntu on forums, there's a spec or two for it, and some bugs. basically gtk dialogs suck and kubuntu users shouldn't have to deal with them | |
| [06:36] <daskReech> firefox-kubuntu package which points to konqueror with a firefox skin ? :0 | |
| [06:55] <yuriy> Riddell: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/firefox-kde-support, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/firefox-qt-kubuntu, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-gtk-theme, bugs 43238, 49568, 220798, 138756, 220504, 193538, 222122 and more. can't find any interesting forum thread right now. this might be useful: http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/ | |
| [06:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 43238 in kubuntu-default-settings "Firefox open / save dialog is a pain for kde users" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43238 | |
| [06:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 49568 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird KDE-integration" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49568 | |
| [06:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 220798 in firefox-3.0 "[KDE] Applications tab in preferences is empty in Firefox-3.0b5 " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220798 | |
| [06:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 138756 in kubuntu-default-settings "kubuntu firefox should use kde print system" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138756 | |
| [06:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 220504 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox doesn't know what apps to use to open any type of downloaded files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220504 | |
| [06:55] <yuriy> sorry for the flood :( | |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | |
| [08:45] <Riddell> ScottK-uds: ccc | |
| [08:49] <ScottK-uds> Riddell: I'm in the server team room for the first roundtable. | |
| [08:50] <Riddell> oh you and your server fettish :) | |
| [08:50] <Riddell> if you see tonio or mhb poke them towards the desktop room at the end of the other corridor | |
| [08:50] <\sh> lol | |
| [08:50] <ScottK-uds> It looks like I should be able to make all the KDE stuff. | |
| [08:51] <ScottK-uds> Riddell: I will. | |
| [08:52] <etretyak> Sigh.. How I wish to be now at UDS... :-\ | |
| [08:52] <davmor2> Riddell: have you got any Idea how we can voip in to UDS there's nothing on the wiki at the bottom it just says info to come https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid | |
| [08:53] <\sh> davmor2, spads and all sysadmins @uds are setting up the infrastructure still... | |
| [08:54] <davmor2> \sh: that would explain it then | |
| [08:54] <\sh> davmor2, #canonical-sysadmin is mostly the right place to apply for later...when it's setup | |
| [08:55] <Riddell> da see http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/2008-05-19/index.html | |
| [08:55] <Riddell> voip and icecast links at top of each room | |
| [08:55] <Riddell> davmor2: | |
| [08:55] <Riddell> don't know if it works yet | |
| [08:56] <\sh> bah...amarok doesn't like the oggstream yet | |
| [08:57] <davmor2> Thanks guys :) | |
| [08:59] <daskReech> Riddell: should I contact teh jasper guys as regards teh license? | |
| [08:59] <Riddell> daskReech: who? what? | |
| [09:00] <daskReech> Riddell: jasper! license! | |
| [09:00] <Riddell> what's jasper, why does it need a licence | |
| [09:01] <mhb> Riddell: where are you? | |
| [09:01] <daskReech> libjasper-runtime is waht does the jpegsequencing for kopete to show webcams | |
| [09:01] <mhb> Riddell: Tonio and me looked for you, but couldn't find you | |
| [09:01] <Riddell> mhb: Volga, desktop roundtable, end of the corridor that wasn't where the intro was | |
| [09:01] <daskReech> Kopete doesn't depend on it but ya need it for webcam viewing | |
| [09:01] <mhb> Riddell: also, good morning | |
| [09:02] <mhb> hmm | |
| [09:02] <daskReech> Riddell: Issue is that for Kopete-kde4 they code had to be changed to use a jasper executable instead of libjasper due to licensing conflicts | |
| [09:02] <daskReech> Kubuntu doesn't package a jasper package only libjasper | |
| [09:02] <Riddell> what's the libjasper licence? | |
| [09:03] <daskReech> So The choices are eitehr make a jasper executabe or contact them on the license | |
| [09:03] <daskReech> Gpl V2 I think | |
| [09:03] <Riddell> no conflict there | |
| [09:04] <daskReech> http://www.ece.uvic.ca/~mdadams/jasper/LICENSE | |
| [09:04] <mhb> Riddell: ScottK with you there? | |
| [09:04] <daskReech> I"m reading up now | |
| [09:04] <Riddell> 09:01 < Riddell> mhb: Volga, desktop roundtable, end of the corridor that wasn't where the intro was | |
| [09:05] <Riddell> oh, doh | |
| [09:05] <Riddell> mhb: no, he's in server | |
| [09:05] <mhb> ah | |
| [09:05] <ScottK-uds> mhb: I'm here, but in server. | |
| [09:05] <daskReech> Nope | |
| [09:05] <Riddell> daskReech: /usr/share/doc/libjasper1/copyright says BSD | |
| [09:05] <mhb> ScottK-uds: right | |
| [09:05] <daskReech> not GPL :) | |
| [09:05] <seele> daskReech: what are you doing awake? | |
| [09:06] <mhb> hmm, so I guess I have to wait until you end those sessions :o) | |
| [09:06] <daskReech> seele: Who says I'm awake | |
| [09:06] <mhb> eh, those sessions end | |
| [09:06] <daskReech> I just have nice cron jobs | |
| [09:06] <daskReech> Let me go get my dogs | |
| [09:07] <mhb> Riddell: are we planning to do more Kubuntu than is planned today or are you booked full? | |
| [09:08] <mhb> some unplanned sessions would be nice, especially because I have the whole day free | |
| [09:08] <Riddell> mhb: you are encouraged to join us for the roundtable :) | |
| [09:08] <mhb> Riddell: am I? | |
| [09:08] <mhb> Okay then! | |
| [09:09] <Riddell> of course | |
| [09:09] <seele> mhb: bring a sweater.. it's cold in here | |
| [09:09] <mhb> going there. | |
| [09:09] <daskReech> seele: See you later :) | |
| [09:09] <seele> daskReech: *wave* | |
| [09:09] <Riddell> daskReech: no licence problems there then | |
| [09:14] <daskReech> Riddell: seems not :) | |
| [09:16] <mhb> so... | |
| [09:22] <mhb> Riddell: you really think we have nothing to discuss (we = Kubuntu) otherwise than what's planned? | |
| [09:22] <mhb> that makes today a bit empty, I must say. | |
| [09:23] <mhb> (you didn't say that, I just assumed from your facial expression :o) | |
| [09:24] <Riddell> oh I'm sure we have thing | |
| [09:24] <Riddell> things | |
| [09:24] <Riddell> travis behind you there wants to talk about compiz in kubuntu | |
| [09:24] <seele> we could hijack one of the open conference rooms for some kde bonding | |
| [09:25] <mhb> seele: I'd second that | |
| [09:25] <ScottK-uds> Sounds good. | |
| [09:26] <Riddell> I'd like to be in on the start of single sign on | |
| [09:30] <davmor2> \sh: try the icecasts now they should be up | |
| [09:31] <Riddell> mhb: so say 11:30, pick a room, we'll have a Kubuntu Bonding session | |
| [09:32] <seele> maybe we should call it something else. we wouldnt want people to get the wrong idea ;P | |
| [09:33] <Riddell> Kubuntu Group Hug! | |
| [09:33] <mhb> my idea, too | |
| [09:33] * mhb hugs Riddell | |
| [09:42] <Riddell> probably in the open area is easiest | |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/ | 11:30 open area, Kubuntu Group Hug | |
| [09:51] <seele> KDE Group HUg in Clyde (Suite 1) | |
| [09:51] <mhb> hmm, change of places? | |
| [09:51] <mhb> seele: I'll get there then. | |
| [09:51] <seele> oh? where was it to begin with? | |
| [09:51] <mhb> 11:30 open area, Kubuntu Group Hug | |
| [09:51] <seele> mhb: i didnt see it on the board | |
| [09:52] <seele> ooh | |
| [09:52] <mhb> not on the board, just here in /topic | |
| [09:53] <Hobbsee> oh, kubuntu release schedule discussions again? | |
| [09:54] <mhb> seele: so, here or there? | |
| [09:59] <Riddell> mhb: open are amight be too noisy | |
| [10:00] <Riddell> mhb: can you find tonio and ken and tell them? | |
| [10:01] * Riddell finds ken | |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/ | 11:30 Clyde, Kubuntu Group Hug | |
| [10:05] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: ping | |
| [10:26] <mhb> Riddell: Tonio left in the morning, haven't met him afterwards, he said he has some business related stuff | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | |
| [11:21] <Riddell> mhb: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs | |
| [11:36] <danimo> has anyone ever tried to build kde4 from scratch using the packages from hardy backports? because kdebase require qt4-opengl-dev and that one conflicts with qt4-dev as it seems | |
| [11:37] <danimo> Riddell: ^^ | |
| [11:44] <Riddell> danimo: meh, it's an upgrade issue of some sort, I'm unlikely to be able to fix it this week, just use dpkg --install ... --force-overwrite for now | |
| [11:45] <danimo> ok | |
| [11:54] <danimo> Riddell: on a similar note: do you happen to know why network-manager ist at version 0.6.6 while network-manager-dev is at 0.7 (svn) | |
| [11:54] <danimo> ? | |
| [12:36] <Riddell> danimo: mm, nope, where does apt-cache policy network-manager-dev say that 0.7 is coming from? | |
| [12:36] <Riddell> do you have my ~jr PPA enabled still? | |
| [12:36] <Tm_T> hmm | |
| [12:38] <Riddell> version 0.7~~svn20080121t191418+eni1-0ubuntu0~pre7 is my PPA, you don't want that | |
| [12:47] <danimo> Riddell: yes | |
| [12:47] <danimo> Riddell: right | |
| [12:47] <danimo> Riddell: but how to get back? | |
| [12:47] <danimo> I think I can just remove your archive.. | |
| [12:50] <Riddell> remove my archive from sources.list | |
| [12:50] <danimo> done already | |
| [12:50] <Riddell> apt-get remove network-manager-dev; apt-get install network-manager-dev | |
| [12:50] <danimo> the file was just stuck | |
| [12:51] <danimo> Riddell: pitty we can't use the solid 0.7 backend that way | |
| [12:51] <Riddell> danimo: which way? | |
| [12:51] <danimo> Riddell: with 0.6.6 | |
| [12:52] <Riddell> well you can try and use my 0.7 package but I suspect it's out of date | |
| [12:53] <Riddell> I see the qt overlapping files issue now, it's not just an upgrade issue the file really is in both packages, how silly of me | |
| [12:54] <danimo> Riddell: no, that breaks the shit out of knetworkmanager | |
| [12:54] <Riddell> right, but you can't have it both ways as far as I know | |
| [12:56] <danimo> *shrug* :) | |
| [12:56] <jussi01> there are no issues with having 2 ssh keys in LP are there? | |
| [12:56] <Tm_T> shouldn't be | |
| [12:58] <jussi01> :) just forgot to get my new one from home :) | |
| [13:01] <Riddell> I wonder if this qt 4 source package will build before my battery runs out | |
| [13:01] <Tm_T> heh | |
| [13:01] <Hobbsee> Riddell: only if you apply more gaffer. | |
| [13:02] <Tm_T> Riddell: I'm pulling my hairs off with my cpu, spending now second day building KDE4 | |
| [13:02] <mhb> hola! | |
| [13:03] <Tm_T> hola hola mhb | |
| [13:03] <Riddell> Tm_T: if you have hairs in your CPU that will probably slow it down :) | |
| [13:03] <mhb> hey Tm_T | |
| [13:04] <Tm_T> Riddell: indeed, that's what I thought too, but wasn't sure ;) | |
| [13:07] * jussi01 sighs... I hate it when I try to do things, and it makes me feel like a total #?%% | |
| === mhb_ is now known as mhb | |
| [13:27] <mhb> ryanakca: ping | |
| [13:28] <nixternal> what's the link to the icecast streams | |
| [13:28] <mhb> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/2008-05-19/index.html | |
| [13:28] <mhb> you'll find it all there | |
| [13:28] <nixternal> thank you sir | |
| [13:28] <mhb> you are most welcome, my lord | |
| [13:30] <nixternal> haha | |
| [13:30] <nixternal> anything good go on today? | |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | |
| [13:31] <mhb> nixternal: lunch | |
| [13:31] <nixternal> hehe | |
| [13:31] <mhb> nixternal: there's Firefox KDE integration, you'd love that :o) | |
| [13:31] <mhb> nixternal: nothing for me | |
| [13:33] <mhb> there's the big kubuntu-release-schedule talk | |
| [13:33] <mhb> which I expect will turn into a heated discussion | |
| [13:33] <mhb> (I'm not a big fan of it) | |
| [13:35] <nixternal> me either | |
| [13:35] <nixternal> Firefox KDE integration == sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox* | |
| [13:35] <Lure> mhb: why would kubuntu-release-schedule talk get heated? | |
| [13:36] <mhb> Lure: because I don't like the idea, and you know how heated I can get? :o) | |
| [13:37] <nixternal> actually, there are some good integration points in the forums for firefox...which really amount to having firefox use the KDE downloader and print stuff | |
| [13:37] <mhb> nixternal: I'm checking them as we speak | |
| [13:38] <mhb> nixternal: it doesn't seem to replace the Firefox print dialog. | |
| [13:38] <mhb> Lure: how about you? | |
| [13:38] <mhb> Lure: do you like that idea? | |
| [13:38] <Lure> mhb: still getting to LP page... | |
| [13:39] <jjesse> what session are we talking about? | |
| [13:39] <mhb> Kubuntu Release Schedule | |
| [13:39] <mhb> it's not on yet | |
| [13:39] <mhb> it'll be later in the afternoon | |
| [13:39] <jjesse> oh cool | |
| [13:40] <mhb> VoIP and Icecast is available, so you can all tune in and communicate with us via IRC | |
| [13:40] <jjesse> yay | |
| [13:40] <mhb> usually, IRC channel is broadcast via a projector | |
| [13:41] <mhb> so you can listen in and write, for instance. | |
| [13:41] <jjesse> yay | |
| [13:41] * Lure does not find kubuntu-release-schedule on LP... :-( | |
| [13:41] <mhb> jjesse: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-intrepid/2008-05-19/index.html | |
| [13:41] <jjesse> mhb: i am | |
| [13:42] <mhb> jjesse: there are links for that. | |
| [13:42] <Lure> mhb: is there any write up of proposal? | |
| [13:42] <mhb> Lure: hmm, I know about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs | |
| [13:43] <Lure> mhb: ok, I recall seeing that paragraph, but I thought there is already some more info | |
| [13:43] <mhb> Lure: I'll ask Riddell once this talk ends | |
| [13:43] <Lure> mhb: I do not believe that this is at all possible (to go against ubuntu schedule) | |
| [13:44] <Lure> mhb: it will just mean we are more unstable | |
| [13:44] <mhb> Lure: me neither, but someone brought it up | |
| [13:44] <Lure> mhb: in general I do not see a problem being 1-2 month behind kde release | |
| [13:44] <Lure> mhb: this gives us some early feedback (both from beta as well as backports for older release) | |
| [13:45] <mhb> correct. | |
| [13:45] <Lure> mhb: and I think that kde release dates are not carved in stone yet | |
| [13:45] <mhb> Keep your opinions warm for the talk. | |
| [13:45] <mhb> :o) | |
| [13:45] <Lure> mhb: no time to participte during the session | |
| [13:45] <nixternal> hehe, than we shall copy and paste :) | |
| [13:45] * Lure has almost zero time recently for kubuntu hacking :-( | |
| [13:46] <mhb> too bad. | |
| [13:46] <mhb> :o) | |
| [13:50] <Lure> mhb: yeah, both work and personal life get in trhe way sometime ;-) | |
| [13:54] <mhb> Lure: I know | |
| [13:54] <mhb> Lure: I wish my personal life got in the way :o) | |
| [13:55] <mhb> unfortunately, it's all school now | |
| [13:55] <seele> mhb: how many more semesters do you have? | |
| [13:55] <mhb> close to infinite :o) | |
| [13:55] <mhb> at least 8 | |
| [13:55] <mhb> seele: where are you? | |
| [13:56] <seele> mhb: my room charging my laptop | |
| [13:56] <mhb> seele: I've compiled the kgrubeditor and wanted to show it to you, but didn't get the chance | |
| [13:56] <seele> (and maybe take a nap :D | |
| [13:56] <mhb> ah | |
| [13:56] <mhb> good idea. | |
| [13:56] <mhb> see you around. | |
| [13:56] <seele> ok.. show it to me later | |
| [13:56] <mhb> right, no rush... | |
| [13:58] <Lure> mhb: who else is there at uds? | |
| [13:58] <Lure> from kubuntu/kde | |
| [13:58] <Riddell> Lure: there's no specs in launchpad yet | |
| [13:59] <mhb> Lure: me, ScottK, Riddell (obviously), seele, Tonio_ | |
| [13:59] <mhb> kwwii, if you still count him :o) | |
| [13:59] * jdavies failed at coming | |
| [13:59] <Lure> Riddell: regarding kubuntu-community: I am fine to step down from council as recently have ENOTIME, so feel free to fine better candidates with more involvement (should not be hard) | |
| [14:00] <mhb> Lure: hmm, it might be a tad harder than you think :o) | |
| [14:00] <Lure> jdavies: how come? | |
| [14:00] <Hobbsee> Lure: heh, another one | |
| [14:00] <Lure> mhb: why? | |
| [14:00] <mhb> Lure: I'm not much active either these days ... in fact, very few people are. | |
| [14:00] <Lure> Hobbsee: I just do not have time currently to follow what is going on | |
| [14:00] <jdavies> Lure: don't have ~180euros for passport | |
| [14:01] <mhb> jdavies: how come the passport is so freaking expensive? | |
| [14:01] <Hobbsee> Lure: yeah, i can understand. i already stepped down | |
| [14:01] <Lure> I hope it will get better for this cycle, but cannot see it right now | |
| [14:02] <mhb> jdavies: also, I'm sure we would have figured it somehow, it's money, but not too much. | |
| [14:02] <jdavies> mhb: best ask: http://tinyurl.com/yowj9m | |
| [14:02] <mhb> jdavies: "freaking expensive" for a piece of paper | |
| [14:02] <Lure> mhb: but we have new/old powers in ScottK, apachelogger ... | |
| [14:02] <Lure> jdavies: you cannot travel to Prague with ID card only? | |
| [14:03] <jdavies> Lure: don't have one | |
| [14:03] <Lure> jdavies: you are my hero! true beliver that the only ID he needs is gpg key! | |
| [14:03] <nixternal> lol | |
| [14:03] <mhb> I guess he doesn't have one because of a different reason | |
| [14:04] <mhb> jdavies: but still, you should have come. I feel so young without you | |
| [14:04] <jdavies> There are no British ID cards ;-) | |
| [14:04] <Riddell> ...yet | |
| [14:04] <Lure> mhb: did you need visa this time around? ;-) | |
| [14:04] <mhb> Lure: no :o) they don't check the public transportation for terrorists here. | |
| [14:04] * jdavies -> class | |
| [14:05] <Lure> jdavies: true that, but you are in spain currently? no id's there? | |
| [14:05] <jdavies> Lure: those are for nationals only, foreigners get "residence cards" | |
| [14:05] <mhb> I've got some time on my hands folks | |
| [14:05] <jdavies> mhb: next time I will ;-) | |
| [14:05] <mhb> jdavies: right, but then I won't be there :o) | |
| [14:05] <mhb> :o( | |
| [14:06] <mhb> most likely. | |
| [14:06] <mhb> anyways. | |
| [14:06] <mhb> I've got an hour or two free now, and I need something to keep myself busy with. | |
| [14:06] <nixternal> I will be at the one in the fall (about time right) | |
| [14:06] <mhb> Give me something to do, please. | |
| [14:07] <mhb> all them Kubuntuers disappeared, so here I am, sitting alone and desiring to do some wild Kubuntu hacking or fixing. | |
| [14:08] <mhb> nobody has a personal favourite bug that they want fixed pretty badly, and it's just an hour of hacking? | |
| [14:09] <Hobbsee> mhb: fix bugs! | |
| [14:09] <mhb> please... | |
| [14:09] <mhb> :o) | |
| [14:09] <mhb> Hobbsee: right, but which ones? | |
| [14:09] <Hobbsee> mhb: implement the qt firefox stuff | |
| [14:09] <mhb> qt firefox stuff? | |
| [14:11] <Hobbsee> mhb: the spec on firefox looking kde-ish still exists, does'nt it? | |
| [14:11] <Hobbsee> it's been rostered on later | |
| [14:13] <mhb> I guess so, it should be discussed today. | |
| [14:14] * Hobbsee last time thought the discussions ended up in "we want to do this, but have no one to do it, so further discussions are moot" | |
| [14:14] <mhb> I'm predicting that today, too | |
| [14:16] <mhb> argh, the API site is c**ppy | |
| [14:17] <Riddell> mhb: something to do in an hour, find the SRU bugs for kaffeine, kde4libs, kdebase and check the test cases work | |
| [14:20] <mhb> Riddell: are those distinguishable? Fix commited or something? | |
| [14:20] <Riddell> mhb: look in the changelog, or hardy-changes | |
| [14:27] <mhb> Riddell: hmm, checking them. | |
| [14:27] <mhb> Riddell: why did you remove the DVD Codec install? | |
| [14:28] <mhb> no explanation in the bug | |
| [14:28] <Riddell> turns out to be illegal in countries we care about | |
| [14:28] <mhb> like U.S? | |
| [14:28] <Riddell> mm hmm | |
| [14:28] <mhb> I don't care about the guys that won't even let me into their country! | |
| [14:28] <mhb> :o) | |
| [14:29] <mhb> jokes aside... | |
| [14:29] <mhb> I understand, and I really regret that - twas a great thing. | |
| [14:29] <mhb> Riddell: are you absolutely positive that offering to download a thing from a third party is illegal in those countries? | |
| [14:30] <Riddell> through a GUI it is | |
| [14:30] <mhb> it seems kind of absurd to me, like talking about guns would be a crime. | |
| [14:30] <Riddell> yes, it is | |
| [14:31] <mhb> Riddell: so all of the codec installation was deleted, or just the DVD part? | |
| [14:31] <Riddell> no, just the dvdcss bit replaced with a "run this script" dialogue | |
| [14:32] <mhb> hmm, now where do I get a video DVD :o) | |
| [14:33] <Riddell> you can just run the command in /usr/share/services/kaffeine_xine-install-dvdcss.desktop | |
| [14:33] <mhb> Are you sure it should tell me that the DVD is encrypted even though there's no DVD in the drive? | |
| [14:34] <mhb> the message appears alright, only it should actually appear if and only if a DVD is encrypted and present | |
| [14:35] <Riddell> well normally that script is only run by kaffeine if it comes across an encrypted dvd | |
| [14:35] <Riddell> if you run it manually it will lie | |
| [14:36] <mhb> I don't run it manually. | |
| [14:36] <mhb> I just clicked on the "Play DVD" button in Kaffeine. | |
| [14:36] <Riddell> hmm, sounds like you found a bug :) | |
| [14:36] <mhb> seems like it. | |
| [14:37] <Riddell> yes, I confirm | |
| [14:37] * txwikinger gets out the bugsquasher | |
| [14:37] <nixternal> same here | |
| [14:38] <Riddell> however, that's not related to this paticular SRU | |
| [14:38] <mhb> no, it was there from the start, I guess. | |
| [14:41] <mhb> Riddell: also, during our Kubuntu Group Hug we discovered with seele that there's no kmilo or equivalent in KDE4. | |
| [14:41] <nixternal> kmilo isn't being maintained for kde4 | |
| [14:41] <Riddell> yep, needs pondering in the kde4-porting session | |
| [14:41] <mhb> Riddell: is that a bug or a very strange feature, or nobody bothered to port that yet? | |
| [14:42] <mhb> ah. | |
| [14:42] <mhb> just what I thought. | |
| [14:42] <mhb> well, I need a project for the summer | |
| [14:42] <Riddell> kmilo died, it doesn't really solve the problem in the right way | |
| [14:42] <nixternal> Riddell: kmilo was apart of the kde-utils talk recently | |
| [14:42] <mhb> so this might be a candidate. | |
| [14:50] <mhb> hmm, that's the first time Adept Notifier actually correctly told me when to reboot a system | |
| [14:50] <mhb> and I wasn't using Adept for upgrades... | |
| [14:50] <mhb> nice | |
| [14:51] <Riddell> seele: is your new phone nokia by any chance? | |
| [14:52] <mhb> Riddell: hmm, two test cases, two bugs :o) | |
| [14:52] <Riddell> uh oh | |
| [14:52] <mhb> Riddell: I've checked the "Cannot Launch Games" bug | |
| [14:52] <mhb> if you happen to remember it | |
| [14:53] <Riddell> yep | |
| [14:53] <mhb> KDE4, when you launch krunner, and try to start apps like "Atlantik" by typing a few letters and clicking on them, it says "KDEInit: Couldn't launch ..." | |
| [14:54] <mhb> it does exactly that on an unpatched system. | |
| [14:54] <Riddell> mm, that happens with kde 4 krunner and kde 3 apps, I don't know why | |
| [14:54] <mhb> the fix, however, fixes it only partially | |
| [14:54] <mhb> you can launch the application | |
| [14:54] <mhb> but you still get the same message when you close it | |
| [14:54] <Riddell> it's an unrelated problem | |
| [14:54] <Riddell> (I think) | |
| [14:55] <mhb> also, krunner stays open the whole time | |
| [14:55] <Riddell> yep | |
| [14:55] <mhb> OK. | |
| [14:55] <mhb> but the application launches, so it's only half-broken. | |
| [14:55] <mhb> hmm, time for a break! | |
| [14:55] <mhb> afterwards, we do have a session on KDE and Firefox, right? | |
| [14:55] <Riddell> mhb: please add results to those bug reports then | |
| [14:56] <mhb> I will, I already submit that kaffeine bug. | |
| [14:56] <Riddell> mhb: yes, we do seem to, guess we'll see what asac has in mind | |
| [15:00] <mhb> I'll meet you either there or in the lobby then. | |
| [15:04] <Riddell> ScottK-uds: question for you on #kde-devel | |
| [15:04] <Riddell> well, if you know about bulletproof x | |
| [15:05] <seele> Riddell: motorola | |
| [15:08] <Hobbsee> manchicken! | |
| [15:08] <ScottK-uds> Riddell: Joined | |
| [15:08] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Howdy :) | |
| [15:08] <ScottK-uds> Riddell: I'll be glad to share what little I know. | |
| [15:10] <Hobbsee> manchicken: tis the traitor :P | |
| [15:10] <manchicken> Hobbsee: You say that like it's a bad thing :) | |
| [15:10] <Hobbsee> manchicken: well, in this channel it is :P | |
| [15:12] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Are saying I shouldn't join? | |
| [15:15] <Hobbsee> manchicken: no. but they might want you to help out :P | |
| [15:15] * Hobbsee is also a traitor, remember | |
| [15:15] <manchicken> heh | |
| [15:15] <Hobbsee> and they haven't thrown me out yet | |
| [15:15] <manchicken> True enough. | |
| === mhb_ is now known as mhb | |
| [15:37] <jjesse> wow that was a pain to figure out... antivirus corrupted and messed up network settings | |
| [15:38] <Nightrose> hmm the stream for the oder room doesn't seem to be the firefox session... - did it get moved to another room? | |
| [15:38] * yuriy is wondering the same thing | |
| [15:38] <yuriy> also it's breaking up a lot | |
| [15:38] <Nightrose> yea | |
| [15:38] * txwikinger can't understand anything on the streams | |
| [15:38] <jjesse> bummer don't have a chance right now to listen in | |
| [15:40] <mhb> Nightrose: nope | |
| [15:40] <mhb> Nightrose: we're in that room | |
| [15:40] <Nightrose> hmmm- the stream is about kernel stuff I'd say | |
| [15:40] <Nightrose> :( | |
| [15:41] <mhb> really? | |
| [15:41] <ScottK-uds> They combined two rooms to make the server room bigger. Some stuff got moved around. | |
| [15:41] <mhb> hmm | |
| [15:41] <mhb> they can't change room names, can they? | |
| [15:42] <mhb> try some other channel, then :o) | |
| [15:42] <ScottK-uds> I'm not sure what they did with the room that got moved. | |
| [15:42] <Nightrose> well it is hard to say what they are about since the audio is really crappy ;-) | |
| [15:42] <Nightrose> so listening in and figuring out if it is the right room is kinda hard | |
| [15:42] <mhb> they're talking about XDG and how GNOME and KDE figures content type | |
| [15:42] <Nightrose> k will check | |
| [15:43] <mhb> a bit uninteresting, to be honest | |
| [15:43] <yuriy> mhb: what room? | |
| [15:43] <seele> *yawn* | |
| [15:43] <seele> yuriy: Oder in Suite 2 | |
| [15:44] <mhb> seele: my thought exactly :o) | |
| [15:44] * yuriy will try again and see if it doesn't sound like kernel talk this time | |
| [15:46] <jdavies> mhb: aww | |
| [15:46] <Nightrose> hmm neither of them is about firefox as far as i can tell | |
| [15:46] <mhb> jdavies: aww? | |
| [15:46] <Nightrose> but the first two streams sounds like it is the same session | |
| [15:46] <Nightrose> meh | |
| [15:46] <jdavies> mhb: that you won't be there :( | |
| [15:47] <mhb> jdavies: yeah, well, that's the rule.. | |
| [15:47] <mhb> Nightrose: believe me, invest your time in something else | |
| [15:47] <Nightrose> hehe | |
| [15:47] <Nightrose> ok | |
| [15:47] <mhb> Nightrose: did you enjoy Fosscamp? | |
| [15:47] <mhb> you should have stayed for uds | |
| [15:47] <Nightrose> i did | |
| [15:47] <Nightrose> yea :( | |
| [15:48] <Nightrose> would have loved to | |
| [15:49] <Nightrose> ah yea - that was pitti talking - so definitely the gues account session on the oder stream | |
| [15:49] <Nightrose> *guest | |
| [15:50] <mhb> pitti? | |
| [15:50] <mhb> hmm, so it's not this one | |
| [15:50] <Nightrose> yea | |
| [15:51] <txwikinger> which stream is anything good going on right now? | |
| [15:52] <Nightrose> txwikinger: rhine might be interesting for you | |
| [15:52] <txwikinger> what are the times anyway? UTC,or local? | |
| [15:52] <mhb> local | |
| [15:53] <txwikinger> Prague is MESZ so UK+1, right | |
| [15:53] <mhb> MESZ? | |
| [15:53] <mhb> we call it CEST | |
| [15:53] <jussi01> where can you get these strams? | |
| [15:53] <Nightrose> jussi01: see topic | |
| [15:53] <Nightrose> there are links | |
| [15:54] <jussi01> Nightrose: ahh... I did look at that, bu thought it was some sort of archive thing :) | |
| [15:54] <txwikinger> mhb: That is confusing for me... EST or CST :D | |
| [15:54] <Nightrose> ;-) | |
| [15:54] <mhb> txwikinger: central european summer time or something | |
| [15:55] <jdavies> txwikinger: CEST | |
| [15:55] <txwikinger> mbh: I know... MESZ = Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit | |
| [15:55] <nixternal> 09:38:30 [ twitter] rrr0321: 14 tons of double stuffed oreo's spilled on interstate 80 near Morris, IL. Need a milk truck now | |
| [15:55] <jdavies> oops, /reads up | |
| [15:55] <jussi01> sigh... I dont have voip :/ | |
| [15:55] <txwikinger> nixternal: Got milk? | |
| [15:55] <nixternal> hahaha, that made me lol | |
| [15:55] <nixternal> almost a rofl | |
| [15:56] <Nightrose> jussi01: then use the stream ;-) | |
| [15:56] <Nightrose> although quality is crappy from time to tim | |
| [15:56] <Nightrose> e | |
| [15:56] <yuriy> mhb: for bug 218138 is it the same error message? | |
| [15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 218138 in kde4libs "unable to launch atlantik in kde4" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218138 | |
| [15:56] <yuriy> what you describe sounds like what happens on my laptop with kate | |
| [15:56] <mhb> KDEInit could not launch '/usr/games/atlantik'. | |
| [15:57] <yuriy> so that's different because it actually has the right path | |
| [15:57] <mhb> it does. | |
| [15:57] <mhb> it launches it. | |
| [15:57] <mhb> but it won't quit and complains eventually. | |
| [15:57] <yuriy> mhb: does that happen to you with other applications? | |
| [15:57] <yuriy> i mean, i think that's a separate problem | |
| [15:57] <mhb> hmm | |
| [15:57] <mhb> it may be | |
| [15:58] <mhb> it happens for every app, as long as you select it from krunner | |
| [15:58] <mhb> it may be separate. | |
| [15:58] <mhb> you can't reproduce it? | |
| [15:58] <mhb> can anyone? | |
| [15:58] <mhb> with your latest patch | |
| [15:59] <yuriy> mhb: did it never happen without the patch? | |
| [15:59] <mhb> not sure now. | |
| [15:59] <mhb> The bug you wrote about was there. | |
| [15:59] <mhb> but I didn't check for this one. | |
| [16:00] <yuriy> hmm I can't reproduce that problem right now either, but I know I've run into it before | |
| [16:03] <Nightrose> yay - now the streams are gone :( | |
| [16:03] <yuriy> bug 225783 could be related | |
| [16:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 225783 in kde4libs "launching kate 3.0.3 from plasma icon or konqueror gives a warning message on exit (KDE 4.0.3, Kubuntu 8.04)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225783 | |
| [16:07] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i told you about the .hidden/...deskt1op showing up in kickoff problem with neon right? I just saw that dragon player has the same problem here | |
| [16:08] <mhb> hmm, now it gets interesting | |
| [16:08] <jjesse> yay? | |
| [16:08] <mhb> some firefox folks talking about Firefox eventually supporting Qt | |
| [16:08] <mhb> so you could build FF with Qt support without the GTK deps. | |
| [16:09] <jjesse> that owould be nice | |
| [16:10] <yuriy> ah yes indeed that would be interesting | |
| [16:11] * vorian waves | |
| [16:11] <yuriy> plenty of requests for that, and some info here: http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/ | |
| [16:11] * yuriy wishes the stream worked | |
| [16:12] <mhb> the sessions ends now | |
| [16:12] <mhb> next Kubuntu in Desktop | |
| [16:12] * jjesse wishes he was there | |
| [16:12] <txwikinger> which room? | |
| [16:13] <mhb> check it out for yourself :o) | |
| [16:13] <txwikinger> :p | |
| [16:24] * yuriy thinks shifting the release schedule away from Ubuntu is a terrible idea. but maybe something good to discuss would be how well our freeze dates fit with the KDE release schedule | |
| === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi | |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | |
| [17:41] <fdoving> Riddell: around? | |
| [17:43] <Riddell> hi fdoving | |
| [17:43] <jjesse> afternoon everyone | |
| [17:45] <fdoving> Riddell: hi. about bug 222041 - gentoo have a simpler way to do this. and i think it's the same issue. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186028 - simple patch to /usr/bin/kdeeject which is a bash script. - i belive the change we have in -proposed for hardy should be dropped, and this implemented. | |
| [17:45] <ubottu> bugs.gentoo.org bug 186028 in KDE "kde (hal) "unmounted but not ejected" error unless in disk group" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | |
| [17:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 222041 in kdebase "unmounting a usb stick gives a stupid error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222041 | |
| [17:46] <fdoving> and this should probably be pushed upstream too, as it needs to be fixed by everyone. | |
| [17:47] <Riddell> fdoving: we can't change features in -proposed, it's minimal bugfixes only | |
| [17:47] <fdoving> Riddell: ok, this is that. the other "fix" breaks more than it fixes. | |
| [17:48] <Riddell> and we can't push upstream, KDE 3 is long since frozen, else we'd have done it forever | |
| [17:48] <Riddell> s/forever/ages ago/ | |
| [17:50] <fdoving> kdebase got a change 5 weeks ago :) | |
| [17:51] <Riddell> I don't know if there is going to be a 3.5.10 anyway | |
| [17:52] <Riddell> what's the advantage of the gentoo script? | |
| [17:52] <Riddell> seele: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UDS-Intrepid/PragueTips | |
| [17:52] <fdoving> it ejects with HAL instead of /usr/bin/eject - which our kdeeject tries to. | |
| [17:52] <fdoving> and that is the proper way, as we mount with HAL and don't give permissions to eject with /usr/bin/eject.- | |
| [18:03] <Riddell> proofreaders: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuReleaseSchedule | |
| [18:04] <Nightrose> Riddell: amarok 1.4.9.1 is not backported to gutsy yet it seems - we had a few requests - any reasons for it not being backported? | |
| [18:04] <Nightrose> (besides time) | |
| [18:05] <ScottK-uds> Nightrose: Is there a gusty-backports bug? | |
| [18:05] <Nightrose> ScottK-uds: have not checked | |
| [18:05] <Riddell> Nightrose: I can't say I care about backporting to releases before the current stable version. if someone wants to do it or ask the backports team that's fine | |
| [18:05] <Nightrose> ok | |
| [18:06] <Riddell> it would need the media-ipod patch removed I'd imagine | |
| [18:06] <Nightrose> yea | |
| [18:06] <ScottK-uds> Nightrose: If someone will file a bug in gutsy-backports and test that it builds/installs/runs on Gutsy, just ping me with the bug number and I can approve it/upload it with the diff. | |
| [18:06] <Nightrose> ScottK-uds: ok will do | |
| [18:06] <Nightrose> thx | |
| [18:07] <Riddell> kwwii: drinking bof at 7:30 with tonio | |
| [18:07] <Nightrose> *lol* that's waht we call it now? | |
| [18:07] <Riddell> better than a smoking bof | |
| [18:07] <Nightrose> ;-) true | |
| [18:07] <Riddell> most unhealthy | |
| [18:07] <Nightrose> right | |
| [18:09] <Nightrose> Riddell: about the spec "of having our own publicity not lose in the Ubuntu release" sounds strange to me - not sure though | |
| [18:12] <mhb> hello" | |
| [18:12] <mhb> hello! | |
| [18:13] <Nightrose> heya mhb | |
| [18:13] <jjesse> hello :) | |
| [18:13] <mhb> home at last | |
| [18:13] <jjesse> yay for home | |
| [18:13] <mhb> jjesse: not so yay | |
| [18:13] <Nightrose> ScottK-uds: no bug so far - will tell the next one who asks to do it and provide a package | |
| [18:13] <mhb> it was fun at the UDS, but now I have to learn until midnight :o) | |
| [18:14] <jjesse> bummer,but with the amount i travel, being at home is always a yay | |
| [18:14] <mhb> jjesse: that's true | |
| [18:15] <Riddell> mhb: good to meet you mhb, good luck studying | |
| [18:16] <Riddell> mhb: you're not in tomorrow right? | |
| [18:21] <mhb> Riddell: I am | |
| [18:21] <mhb> Riddell: my exam is at 17:40 | |
| [18:21] <mhb> so I guess I'm there morning and early afternoon | |
| [18:21] <mhb> wednesday I'm gone | |
| [18:21] <mhb> one exam in the morning and one in the afternoon | |
| [18:21] <ryanakca> mhb: pong? | |
| [18:21] <mhb> ryanakca: early enough :o) | |
| [18:22] <mhb> Riddell: I assume I'll be there for the Kubuntu talks, then lunch, then gone | |
| [18:22] <mhb> Riddell: but it might change. | |
| [18:22] <mhb> Riddell: nice to meet you, too... all of you! | |
| [18:22] <mhb> such great people | |
| [18:23] <mhb> ryanakca: I wanted to ask about the website | |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | |
| [18:23] <Riddell> mhb: groovy | |
| [18:25] <ryanakca> mhb: yes... we're still patiently waiting on the overworked sysadmins... | |
| [18:25] <mhb> ryanakca: ah | |
| [19:14] <apachelogger> Nightrose: question is, where do these files come from anyway | |
| [19:14] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i have no idea | |
| [19:15] <apachelogger> Nightrose: btw, did you get me a new brain in prague? | |
| [19:15] <apachelogger> I pretty much b0rked the old one today | |
| [19:15] <Nightrose> nope ;-) | |
| [19:15] <Nightrose> oO | |
| [19:15] <apachelogger> 6 hours economics was just too much | |
| [19:15] <apachelogger> I was able to sleep in the afternoon after 6 cups o coffee | |
| [19:15] <apachelogger> horrible | |
| [19:16] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger | |
| [19:16] <Nightrose> how did it work out? | |
| [19:18] <apachelogger> *shrug* | |
| [19:19] <apachelogger> there is reason to hope though | |
| [19:19] <Nightrose> :) | |
| [19:19] <apachelogger> I was pretty good in accounting, business economics wasn't that awesome though | |
| [19:19] <Nightrose> bah - I am sure you rocked ;-) | |
| [19:20] <apachelogger> we'll see | |
| [19:20] <apachelogger> gotta continue learning on german and french | |
| [19:20] <apachelogger> cya | |
| [19:21] <Nightrose> good luck | |
| [19:21] <Nightrose> and cya | |
| [19:59] <uga> Riddell: you should always carry a tripod with you to avoid blurry shots ;) | |
| [20:19] <yuriy> ohh 4 months *after* ubuntu | |
| [20:19] <jjesse> yuriy: what are you tlking about? | |
| [20:19] <yuriy> jjesse: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuReleaseSchedule | |
| [20:20] <jjesse> wouldn't it be a pain to change the sync of kubuntu from ubuntu/ | |
| [20:20] <yuriy> jjesse: read the bottom part, decided against it | |
| [20:24] <jjesse> yay | |
| [20:24] <jjesse> been swamped w/ confrence calls yet again, wish i could particpate more :( | |
| [23:03] <ScottK-uds> Nightrose: Sounds good. | |