| [00:00] <gnomefre1k> i dont see anything after i said brb | |
| [00:01] <gnomefre1k> it looks like connection died | |
| [00:01] <fta> <gnomefreak> no i can but still default shount interupt your work like that | |
| [00:01] <fta> <fta> i won't change that in ff3, it's more for ubufox | |
| [00:01] <fta> <fta> but it's usability, so people will never agree | |
| [00:01] <fta> <fta> i prefer the tab to raise, but i don't want the window to raise or change desktop or the focus to be stolen | |
| [00:01] <fta> <fta> it's all fine here. but i had to drop ubufox because of that | |
| [00:01] <fta> * gnomefre1k (n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-24.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam | |
| [00:01] <fta> didn't get your brb | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> everytime you open ff in tab or window it steals focus, it should NEVER imho steal focus on tab | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> the tab gets raised all the time that is good | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> 18:52 < gnomefreak > Lp is slow as crap atm | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> 18:52 < gnomefreak > or that option fucked with loading pages | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> 18:53 < gnomefreak > little better | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> 18:54 < gnomefreak > looks like perl is still screwed up in intrepid | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> 18:55 < gnomefreak > brb testing something with songbird (i think it knows me too well :() | |
| [00:02] <gnomefre1k> just incase you missed it all | |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| [00:03] <fta> try to disable ubufox and restart ff | |
| [00:03] <gnomefreak> and songbird is fixed :) | |
| [00:03] <gnomefreak> how to disable it? the setting i changed worked fine | |
| [00:04] <fta> in the add-ons ui | |
| [00:04] <gnomefreak> oh yeah forgot it was an addon | |
| [00:05] <gnomefreak> firefox 3 in | |
| [00:09] <gnomefreak> ill be back im cooking dinner late | |
| [02:22] <alex_mayorga> fta, does www.etn.com.mx loads on your FF3? | |
| [03:51] <[reed]> we'll have a showstopper | |
| [03:51] <[reed]> :) | |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | |
| [05:13] <gnomefreak> that site loads fine here in ff3 | |
| [05:23] * gnomefreak looling for a good mozilla quote | |
| [05:33] <gnomefreak> anyone know of a good guide to mutt (or a better text-based email) procmail, mutt, alpine anyothers that are easy to set up and easy to work, i would really see if its for me | |
| [06:29] <gnomefreak> anyone here that remembers how to change your unix password from terminal? | |
| [11:30] <armin76> hahaha | |
| [11:30] <armin76> ubuntu users... :P | |
| [12:33] <Jazzva> asac: ping | |
| [12:51] <devilsadvocate> why does ubuntu firefox 3 have different (and not in a good way) with the upstream one (comparing with win32 firefox beta5) when dealing with untrusted certificates? | |
| [12:52] <devilsadvocate> i am not given an option to add an exception, and it just dies there asking em to contact the site administrator | |
| [12:54] <devilsadvocate> how do i add the exception, if i wanted to, or change the behaviour | |
| [12:55] * devilsadvocate cant access his instiute email (MS exchange server) withough rebooting | |
| [13:12] <Jazzva> devilsadvocate: It works fine here. FF will present you a page with a link "Or you can add an exception...", when you click on it you will see a button "Add an exception", then you get certificate, and approve it. | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [13:39] <Jazzva> asac: I'm thinking about submitting fix for teatime to Debian, so it can be synced back to intrepid. I'm reading about NMUs, but I'm confused. I shouldn't prepare NMU, but just a patch for buggy files, and submit it to Debian BTS, right? | |
| [13:53] <Jazzva> asac: Nevermind... I just submitted the patch. :) | |
| [13:54] <fta> Jazzva, btw, i'm using it several times a day :) | |
| [13:54] <Jazzva> fta: I'm glad it works for you :) | |
| [13:54] <Jazzva> It would be great if it gets accepted to Debian, so it can be synced back :) | |
| [13:55] <fta> i wish it was possible to re-order the teas | |
| [14:01] <Jazzva> Well, the upstream stopped teatime development | |
| [14:24] <Jazzva> Hmm... funny things happening. brb | |
| [22:00] <fta> Jazzva, http://debaday.debian.net/2008/05/11/kteatime-small-tray-utility-which-reminds-you-of-steeping-tea/ | |
| [22:01] <Jazzva> fta: I noticed it today on packages.ubuntu.com, while searching for teatime... | |
| [22:01] <Jazzva> Go for it, if it's better :) | |
| [22:02] <fta> it's kde | |
| [22:02] <Jazzva> I know ;) | |
| [22:02] <fta> and i'm not ;) | |
| [22:02] <Jazzva> I still use Amarok only for wake-up playlists (it has some script for that)... and there's virtualbox ose | |
| [22:03] <Jazzva> Haven't checked in a while if rhythmbox has a plugin for alarm clock :) | |
| [22:35] <asac> sorry ... was at the beach ;) | |
| [22:36] <fta> asac, or anyone, could you have a look at taglib in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Ideas/Intrepid and let me know what you think ? | |
| [22:37] <fta> asac, in germany ? | |
| [22:37] <asac> yeah here in hamburg ;) | |
| [22:38] <fta> eh? | |
| [22:39] <asac> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=falkensteiner+ufer,+hamburg&sll=53.565038,9.77412&sspn=0.008347,0.018475&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=15&iwloc=addr | |
| [22:39] <asac> thats where it is ;) | |
| [22:39] <fta> it's a river :) | |
| [22:39] <asac> yeah, but the sand is ok :) | |
| [22:40] <asac> and its not that far from the sea :-D | |
| [22:40] <asac> just move to the left | |
| [22:40] <fta> i have the same near my place but it's far from the sea | |
| [22:40] <asac> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=kiel&ie=UTF8&ll=54.334143,10.166473&spn=0.262231,0.591202&t=h&z=11 | |
| [22:41] <asac> thats the other city i live | |
| [22:41] <asac> its directly at the sea ;) | |
| [22:42] <asac> is 1.5 compatible with songbird? | |
| [22:42] <fta> no | |
| [22:42] <asac> are there any rdepends on taglib? | |
| [22:42] <asac> other than songbird | |
| [22:42] <fta> yes | |
| [22:42] <fta> apt-cache rdepends libtag1c2a | wc -l | |
| [22:42] <fta> 38 | |
| [22:43] <asac> so what does songbird need? | |
| [22:43] <fta> stuff they implemented, m4a, id3, etc. | |
| [22:44] <asac> i mean which version. maybe its obvious, but its not on that wiki page explicitly | |
| [22:44] <asac> 1.4? | |
| [22:44] <asac> or do they have a patched version? | |
| [22:44] <fta> they provide patched in source taglib, and binaries | |
| [22:47] <asac> doesn't sound too promissing ;) | |
| [22:47] <asac> do they maintain patches in distinct fashion? | |
| [22:47] <asac> (for taglib that is) | |
| [22:47] <asac> gnomefreak gone? | |
| [22:48] <fta> no, it's directly patched, and they have a merge script | |
| [22:48] <fta> and merge notes | |
| [22:48] <fta> http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/browser/trunk/dependencies/vendor/taglib/songbird_merge_notes.txt | |
| [22:49] <asac> ok. beautiful | |
| [22:49] <asac> do we know what they change? | |
| [22:49] <asac> what size has the diff? | |
| [22:49] <fta> i diffed it yesterday | |
| [22:50] <fta> shows 49 files changed, 2356 insertions(+), 467 deletions(-) | |
| [22:50] <asac> you have the complete diffstate? so i see what files are touched? | |
| [22:51] <asac> if not its ok. just wondering if its still comprehensible ;) | |
| [22:51] <asac> or if every chance of cutting out patches for upstream submissin/review is hopeless | |
| [22:51] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11514/ | |
| [22:52] <asac> hmm could you see what those changes are about? just new tags? | |
| [22:52] <fta> diff is 138k | |
| [22:55] <asac> did you ignore whitespaces when diffing? | |
| [22:57] <fta> http://pastebin.com/f4f818c94 | |
| [23:02] <asac> hmm ... they add zillions of attribtes to some tags. | |
| [23:02] <asac> do those make sense for taglib in general? | |
| [23:03] <fta> i think so | |
| [23:03] <fta> the problem is i don't know if they send that upstream or not | |
| [23:03] <asac> ok all the tag stuff should be submitted upstream i guess | |
| [23:04] <asac> but what is tfile.cpp and friends about? | |
| [23:04] <asac> for me it looks a bit like merge cruft that accumulated ;) | |
| [23:04] <asac> but maybe i just miss the feature added in such an intrusive fashion ;) | |
| [23:05] <asac> well ... appeasr to add localfile things | |
| [23:05] <asac> doesn't upstreawm support that. a bit strange imo | |
| [23:09] <asac> fta: is there any active songbird upstreamer that we could ask to join this channel? | |
| [23:11] <fta> no idea, i joined their channel yesterday only | |
| [23:11] <asac> on freenode? | |
| [23:11] <fta> mzo | |
| [23:11] <fta> moz | |
| [23:13] <asac> ok | |
| [23:19] <fta> they have a 32bit builder running gutsy | |
| [23:20] <asac> but they produce .tar.gz from that? | |
| [23:31] <fta> yes | |
| [23:32] <fta> the 64bit linux builder is running FC8 | |