2008/05/06/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

[00:03] <ward1983> i kindof killed my system, i would like to do a clean isntall and take the mythbuntu settings with me
[00:03] <ward1983> is thqt possible?
[00:21] <tgm4883> jarle, afaik, the sources.list should be the same between different architechures
[00:22] <psicobra> hi all i have a prblem when i boot mythbuntu on login i get an error our $HOME/.drmc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the session from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions.
[00:22] <psicobra> any ideas how to fix
[00:23] <tgm4883> psicobra, well first I would ask what the output of ls -l ~/.drmc is
[00:25] <psicobra> ls: cannot access /home/andy/.drmc: No such file or directory
[00:26] <psicobra> -rw-r--r-- 1 andy andy 29 2008-04-26 22:49 /home/andy/.dmrc
[00:26] <psicobra> tgm4883, i yped it wrong
[00:27] <tgm4883> psicobra, I assume that andy is the user?
[00:27] <tgm4883> ...
[00:32] <psicobra> still didn't wotk every time i reboot it goes back to read only
[00:35] <tgm4883> psicobra, it's currently has the correct permissions
[00:39] <psicobra> http://liltux.wordpress.com/2007/06/04/how-to-fix-errors-with-the-dmrc-file/
[03:21] <swheatley> where can I find the config of the Ubuntu/Mythbuntu kernel for 8.04?
[03:22] <superm1> /usr/src/`uname -r`
[03:22] <superm1> or better yet
[03:22] <superm1> /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/
[03:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> hmmm does the resume/bookmark feature work with iso's in mythvideo?
[03:23] <superm1> i wouldnt expect it to
[03:23] <swheatley> thanks superm1. I don't currently have the source installed and I want to build it as close to the stock kernel
[03:23] <superm1> swheatley, dont need the source installed
[03:23] <superm1> it comes in the headers package
[03:23] <rhpot1991_laptop> kinda figured superm1
[03:23] <superm1> which should be installed by default
[03:24] <swheatley> swheatley@pvr:~$ cd /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/
[03:24] <swheatley> -bash: cd: /usr/src/linux-2.6.24-16-generic/: No such file or directory
[03:24] <swheatley> swheatley@pvr:~$ cd /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/
[03:24] <swheatley> -bash: cd: /usr/src/linux-2.6.24-16-generic/: No such file or directory
[03:24] <superm1> oh my bad
[03:24] <swheatley> crap, sorry for double pasting
[03:24] <superm1> /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/
[03:24] <superm1> there is a file .config in there
[03:24] <superm1> that is the config that is used
[03:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> I wonder how happy my laptop would be if I hacked xorg to have a larger res
[03:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> not enough realestate here
[03:25] <swheatley> superm1: awesome, thanks!
[03:25] <swheatley> I'm trying to compile the kernel without the built-in v4l support
[03:25] <superm1> no prob
[03:25] <superm1> why?
[03:25] <swheatley> trying to get my PVR-950 USB tuners installed
[03:26] <superm1> oh
[03:26] <superm1> that forked driver
[03:26] <superm1> bleh
[03:26] <swheatley> installing the em28xx-dvb drivers hoses my whole system
[03:26] <swheatley> yeah, I'm not a big fan  :)
[03:26] <superm1> i wish someone would properly fix that
[03:26] <superm1> so it can join the v4l tree again
[03:26] <swheatley> you and me both
[03:26] <superm1> well then honestly let me tell you the best solutin
[03:26] <superm1> solution even
[03:26] <superm1> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic
[03:27] <superm1> modify the config for your architecture
[03:27] <superm1> bump the changelog
[03:27] <superm1> and then debuild it
[03:27] <superm1> you'll get a nice deb that won't be very different
[03:27] <superm1> and that the ABI will still be valid etc
[03:28] <swheatley> when you say modify the config for my architecture, what do you mean?
[03:28] <superm1> well the way those source packages work
[03:28] <superm1> there are a collection of configs
[03:28] <superm1> in debian/config i think
[03:29] <superm1> for i386, amd64, lpia, etc
[03:29] <swheatley> ah ok
[03:29] <superm1> then there are ways to force it to only build one of those architectures etc
[03:30] <swheatley> it's funny... I've been doing this for years, but not on a debian system
[03:30] <swheatley> I was a Gentoo guy previously
[03:30] <swheatley> but got tired of my system breaking if I didn't emerge on a daily basis
[03:31] <swheatley> so now I'm learning "the debian way" to do things
[03:31] <superm1> yeah me too
[03:31] <superm1> i came from gentoo 3 years back or so
[03:32] <superm1> well this is something you can't hold up to ubuntu or debian's fault though ;)
[03:32] <swheatley> I still love their forums... always had tons of great info
[03:32] <swheatley> not that the ubuntu ones aren't great as well
[03:32] <swheatley> oh no! certainly not.
[03:32] <superm1> there is a nice wiki page discussing rebuilding kernels actually
[03:32] <superm1> let me see if i can come across it
[03:33] <swheatley> just trying to learn what the right way to rebuild the kernel is
[03:33] <swheatley> only ever installed a new binary image on any ubuntu box I've worked with
[03:33] <superm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[03:33] <swheatley> nice, thnx
[03:33] <swheatley> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[03:33] <swheatley> ooops
[03:33] <superm1> yeah follow that exactly
[03:41] <swheatley> apt-got the source
[03:41] <swheatley> but it's not in /usr/src like I expected
[03:42] <swheatley> I'm going back and following their instructions now, doing the build-dep step
[03:46] <swheatley> ah, it's in my home dir
[04:10] <swheatley> superm1: looks like v4l isn't compiled in, at least not in the config you pointed me to
[04:10] <swheatley> I guess I need to contact the driver maintainer
[04:10] <swheatley> thanks for all your help
[04:51] <mgpaulus> hello all.  Anyone here also using an MVPMC device?
[07:15] <kees> superm1: actually, the configs are in /boot too
[07:39] <superm1> kees, oh thanks.  w/ an unintuitive name too, config-`uname -r` :).  I could have sworn they were there too, but was looking for .config
[08:16] <lymz> hello
[08:16] <lymz> I'm having trouble getting the frontend of mythbuntu setup
[08:17] <lymz> first off it tells me "No UPnP backends found"
[08:17] <lymz> Then the Database Configuration 1/2 page comes up, and all the fields are populated (including the password)
[08:18] <lymz> for Database Configuration 2/2 I did enter any settings for custom identifier or enable database server wakeup
[08:19] <lymz> I did not*
[08:19] <lymz> when I hit enter it tells me "Cannot login to database?"
[08:19] <lymz> and kicks me back to the Database Configuration 1/2 page
[08:20] <lymz> I've tried searching the forums.  I have mysql running and the password for the mythtv user is correct
[08:20] <lymz> any ideas on what could be wrong?
[08:44] <lymz> aha! it looks like my mythconverg database has not been setup
[09:05] <lymz> I went ahead and re-installed mythbuntu from CD (this time selecting install instead of live)
[09:05] <lymz> looks like I don't have that issue anymore
[10:35] <adc> hello, i've just installed mythbuntu 8.04 after restart my system stays waiting with the message "Loading, please wait" for quite a while and then it gets into a sort of shell saying initramfs and thats it.
[10:35] <adc> what could i do
[11:20] <wayneandleanne> anybody give me pointers to change where mtd dumps the output file?
[13:12] <scd_hu> hi all
[13:12] <bazzawill> hey
[13:12] <scd_hu> can i get some help about tv card/remote?
[13:13] <bazzawill> I can sure try
[13:15] <scd_hu> thank. I have a Pinnacle pctv50i and i cant get to work the remote. The riciever connected to the card. I was googled a lot, try howtos without succes
[13:17] <bazzawill> what system are you using?
[13:19] <Solarbaby> So I was browsing around the web for pre-made mythtv systems suitable for being in an entertainment system.. and I've got to say i wasn't impressed
[13:19] <scd_hu> mythbuntu 8.04
[13:19] <Solarbaby> hardware wise it was expensive and nothing special
[13:22] <scd_hu> dmesg says:http://pastebin.com/d6bd98832
[13:26] <bazzawill> looks like your remote has been used as a ir key board similar to a twinhan card I used to have there a a few options here
[13:27] <scd_hu> yes but i can't manage to work
[13:27] <bazzawill> one is to use it as is and reset keybindings using the command hexdump should confirm that keypresses from the remote are mapped to std kybrd presses
[13:28] <bazzawill> another option is to reconfigure lirc manually ie http://www.doctort.org/adam/nerd-notes/mythtv-and-the-twinhan-remote.html
[13:28] <scd_hu> how can i test it?
[13:28] <bazzawill> run hexdump in a terminal then press buttons on the remote it should output to the terminal
[13:30] <bazzawill> honestly I have never really got into remotes I tend to stick to a wireless keyboard although I am thinking of switching to the mce remote which looks cool
[13:31] <scd_hu> hmmm its not in the output of cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[13:33] <bazzawill> hmm ok looked similar dmesg so does how does the remote reciever plugin?
[13:37] <bazzawill> have you tried modprobe saa7134 pinnacle_remote=1
[13:39] <scd_hu> nevermind i have two boxes and one display. the link above i think ok, but im not done now
[13:42] <scd_hu> the tvcard is in the other box  of course :P
[13:45] <bazzawill> ah ic well then this would be a problem however the mce remote looks like a good option in that case
[13:52] <scd_hu> no succes :(
[13:53] <cmug> Hi
[13:53] <cmug> I upgraded 7.10 to 8.04 and now I have some problems with my Nvidia
[14:04] <hugolp> cmug:  get to the queue
[14:06] <cmug> i'm there
[14:13] <hugolp> cmug:  XD
[14:13] <hugolp> cmug:  whats the problem?
[14:14] <cmug> well, I installed my 7.10 mythbuntu long ago, I got a nice nvidia 6200 something into it. Then I used the envy software to setup the nvidia drivers (brr), now I upgraded the system to 8.04 and my nvidia broke down. I uninstalled envy with --uninstall-all option, also dpkg -l | grep nvidia and uninstalled all those packages too but I am unable to get the proprietary driver to work again
[14:15] <cmug> linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic is the linux kernel
[14:15] <hugolp> cmug:  I had problems with nvidia propietary drivers too and I installed Hardy clean
[14:15] <cmug> I don't want to go clean :(
[14:15] <hugolp> cmug:  theres a thread in ubuntuforums.org about posible solutions
[14:16] <cmug> ok let me look them up
[14:16] <hugolp> cmug:  no, I installed clean the first time and had problem anyways
[14:16] <hugolp> in my case, at some point they got solved, and I have no idea why
[14:16] <cmug> ok
[14:16] <cmug> I just booted to a older kernel, and am running apt-get purge on the latest version
[14:17] <cmug> I have the nvidia-new package installed, will reinstall the latest kernel too
[14:22] <cmug> and I keep getting this "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[14:22] <cmug> " when I run modprobe nvidia..
[14:23] <hugolp> cmug:  in the forums I remember people suggesting to completely remove envy and the drivers it installed
[14:24] <cmug> I did that
[14:24] <hugolp> cant help you
[14:24] <hugolp> then
[14:24] <cmug> np
[14:32] <cmug> wow I fixed it
[14:33] <cmug> now only if I can stop mythfrontend from respawning 1000 times a second
[14:59] <scd_hu> cmug: try to install
[14:59] <cmug> I got it fixed now
[15:23] <adc> hello after installing mythbuntu the backend setup asks me for a user, the default is mythtv but there is no mysql user mythtv, the installatin process gave me a password but dont know the username
[16:35] <Aval0n> hey guys I uninstalled ubuntu hardy's default package for mythtv so I could install 21-fixes from source..
[16:35] <Aval0n> but now anytime I do anything with apt-get it says mysql is no longer needed
[16:35] <Aval0n> I would like to do a clean but I don't want it to wipe out mysql
[16:38] <hugolp> Aval0n:  sudo apt-get install mysql
[16:39] <Aval0n> ok will that screw any of my databases?
[16:39] <hugolp> Aval0n:  sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[16:39] <hugolp> thats the correct
[16:40] <Aval0n> that's correct?
[16:40] <Aval0n> it WILL hose them?>
[16:40] <hugolp> Aval0n:  if you have installed mysql from repos that will make the package mysql-server not a package that depends on another package but a package that you want installed on its onw
[16:40] <Aval0n> that's cool
[16:41] <Aval0n> but not at the expense of losing any pre-configured databases
[16:41] <hugolp> Aval0n:  if the packet mysql-server its allredy installed it wont touch anything, it will just mark the package as installed on its own
[16:42] <Aval0n> ok
[16:43] <hugolp> Aval0n:  if you want to be sure, check in synaptic (or whatever you want to use) what mysql-server package you have installed
[16:43] <hugolp> and sudo apt-get install that package
[16:43] <Aval0n> Removing nvidia-glx ...
[16:43] <Aval0n> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so' with
[16:43] <Aval0n> different file `/usr/lib/nvidia/libwfb.so.xserver-xorg-core', not allowed
[16:44] <Aval0n> arrg wtf is it trying to remove glx for when I install mysql-server
[16:45] <Aval0n> is there a way to force remove nvidia-glx
[16:45] <Aval0n> I have a driver from nvidia.com installed anyway
[16:45] <Aval0n> not using that package either.
[16:46] <tgm4883_laptop> this begs the question.   Was there something you specifically needed from 21-fixes?
[16:46] <hugolp> Aval0n:  yes, you can force a package to not be installed
[16:46] <Aval0n> how
[16:47] <hugolp> Aval0n:  I dont know how to do it in apt-get, you can do it in synaptic
[16:48] <Aval0n> unfortunatly i'm relying on ssh atm
[16:48] <hugolp> Im sure apt-get can do it, check the help
[16:48] <tgm4883_laptop> Aval0n, ssh host -X -Y
[16:48] <Aval0n> have been
[16:48] <Aval0n> to a vista box tgm?
[16:48] <Aval0n> will that work?
[16:48] <hugolp> also, check if mysql-server is the package you have installed for the mysql server
[16:49] <tgm4883_laptop> Aval0n, was there something specifically that you needed from 21-fixes?
[16:49] <tgm4883_laptop> Aval0n, couldn't hurt to try?
[16:49] <Aval0n> tgm4883: lots
[16:49] <Aval0n> including a patch for skiploopfilter
[16:50] <tgm4883_laptop> well this seems like a lot of work for something that could be in the -fixes repo
[16:50] <Aval0n> i'de be fine if I could just get this darn nvidia-glx package off here
[16:50] <Aval0n> -fixes doesn't have the skiploopfilter patch
[16:50] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[16:51] <Aval0n> http://pastebin.org/34223
[16:51] <Aval0n> any idea how to fix that?
[16:51] <Aval0n> heh
[16:52] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[16:52] <Aval0n> lol
[16:52] <Aval0n> that makes 2 of us
[17:50] <TelnetManta> anyone had problems with SATA hard disks in Hardy/Mythbuntu?
[17:50] <TelnetManta> I can seem to get a new partition created and formatted ext3
[18:22] <ward1983> is there a way to take over my mythbuntu settings? i killed my ubuntu so im gonna reinstall but i was hoping i could copy some files so that i dont have to setup mythbuntu again
[18:25] <deviantintegral> hi - simple question. I have an ubuntu box with freevo set up, but I want to look at mythbuntu. If I decide I don't like it, I can just remove mythbuntu-desktop?
[18:28] <ward1983> anyone? its a bit urgent im working with the livecd now but i need to reinstall asap, i need my system
[18:33] <pdragon> i believe most settings are stored in the database
[18:33] <pdragon> not 100% sure, but that would be where i would look
[18:34] <ward1983> pdragon: then ill just set it up again
[18:34] <ward1983> i dunno anything about databases lol
[18:34] <ward1983> anyway i cant wait any longer
[18:34] <ward1983> need to install
[18:34] <ward1983> byeybe
[18:35] <pdragon> if you install the phpmyadmin package you can get to it from http://your.ip.address/phpmyadmin
[19:11] <laga> pdragon: you here? i'm currently looking into the mythweb password problem
[19:11] <pdragon> yeah, but not fully. i'm at work so may be delayed in responding sometimes
[19:12] <laga> ah. you don't happen to have access to the box where mythweb is running right now?
[19:12] <pdragon> i do
[19:12] <pdragon> ssh and web
[19:12] <pdragon> not directly or vnc tho
[19:14] <laga> ssh will do.
[19:14] <laga> so, the problem was that the password in the mythweb config was different from what was in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[19:14] <pdragon> yes
[19:14] <pdragon> for me it happened after an update. seems it's happened for some people right at install too
[19:15] <laga> mythweb uses the password from the debconf database. can you run 'get echo mythtv/mysql_mythtv_password | debconf-communicate' to find out what password is in debconf? is it the correct one?
[19:15] <laga> of course, omit the single quotes :)
[19:20] <pdragon> that 'get' supposed to be there? i don't have that command
[19:20] <laga> duh, sorry :)
[19:20] <laga> echo get mythtv/mysql_mythtv_password | debconf-communicate
[19:21] <pdragon> getting permission denied errors. where's the right place to put sudo when piping things?
[19:21] <laga> the permission denied errors shouldn't matter.. isn't there some 'better' output in the last line?
[19:23] <pdragon> debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied
[19:23] <pdragon> 10 mythtv/mysql_mythtv_password doesn't exist
[19:23] <pdragon> that's the output
[19:24] <laga> odd. do you have mythtv-common installed?
[19:24] <pdragon> yes
[19:30] <laga> heh. doesn't work here either.. maybe that's the problem
[19:30] <laga> thanks
[19:30] <pdragon> np :)
[19:37] <cosmic> HI @ ALL
[19:44] <cosmic> Hey Guys , I have a problem ... I just installed Mythbuntu Hary (8.04) restarted as usual and everything seem to work fine just one of my DVB-T cards couldnt find any channels ... but frontend worked good , i installed some packages like ia386-libs and build-essentials, and so on . Then i copied my config files (like .lircrc / vsftpd.conf , and so on) and i restarted again to see if my rcS scripts will work fine ... but i couldnt watch
[19:44] <cosmic> t live tv anymore, i started mythtv-setup and tried to rescan channels but this time my first card didnt get any channels!?!?!?!?! Whats that ? the second thing ... for having lirc control i had to : cp lircrc to /home/cosmic/.lirc/mythtv    after restart i had to do it again ?!?!?!
[19:44] <cosmic> Do i realy do everything wrong ?
[19:44] <cosmic> sorry for my englisch
[20:37] <agamotto> Anyone here good at sussing out wireless issues?
[20:40] <agamotto> I am having quite the problem with one of my mythboxes and getting it to connect with my wireless router
[21:00]  * agamotto waves
[21:10] <astra-1> so mythbuntu 8.04 is pretty buggy?
[21:10] <astra-1> is there a stable release?
[21:12] <astra-1> it seems as if nothing works properly
[21:13] <astra-1> such as mysql and configuration utilities
[21:14] <majoridiot> mysql works fine here
[21:14] <iamlindoro_> Yup, everything pretty much quiet on this front too
[21:14] <majoridiot> astra-1, what configuration utilities are failing?
[21:15] <astra-1> the mysql database
[21:15] <astra-1> configuring shares
[21:16] <astra-1> configuring login
[21:16] <astra-1> actually nothing except the gui and networking seems to be functional
[21:16] <laga> then file some bug reports/post in the forums
[21:16] <majoridiot> agrees with laga... recommend forums first.
[21:17] <astra-1> is the alternate install cd have more problems than the livecd?
[21:17] <majoridiot> astra-1, be sure to post complete system specs... mobo, video card, etc.
[21:17] <laga> the alternate disk isn't that well-tested. 8.04 the first release to have an alternate disk.
[21:17] <majoridiot> astra-1, the livecd worked 100% for me first try.  have not tried the alt.
[21:17] <astra-1> i'll try the livecd
[21:17] <majoridiot> you might
[21:18] <astra-1> you think it'll run on 256 megs of ram
[21:18] <laga> no
[21:18] <laga> it _might_ work if you boot straight into ubiquity. there's a boot option to boot directly into the installer.
[21:18] <cosmic>  Hey Guys , I have a problem ... I just installed Mythbuntu Hary (8.04) restarted as usual and everything seem to work fine just one of my DVB-T cards couldnt find any channels ... but frontend worked good , i installed some packages like ia386-libs and build-essentials, and so on . Then i copied my config files (like .lircrc / vsftpd.conf , and so on) and i restarted again to see if my rcS scripts will work fine ... but i couldnt watch
[21:18] <cosmic>  t live tv anymore, i started mythtv-setup and tried to rescan channels but this time my first card didnt get any channels!?!?!?!?! Whats that ? the second thing ... for having lirc control i had to : cp lircrc to /home/cosmic/.lirc/mythtv    after restart i had to do it again ?!?!?!
[21:18] <cosmic>  Do i realy do everything wrong ?
[21:18] <cosmic>  sorry for my englisch
[21:24] <tgm4883_laptop> astra-1, works great here
[21:25] <tgm4883_laptop> astra-1, make sure you verified your md5sum on the iso, then verfied the burn (and burn at a slow speed)
[21:25] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ sounds like it is exactly your problem
[21:45] <cosmic_> hello ?
[21:46] <cosmic_> oh , that wasnt me :  cosmic hat (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) beendet
[21:46] <cosmic_> :)
[22:35] <astra-1> would anyone know about getting the media center extender remote for the original xbox working with mythtv or linux in general?
[22:45] <laurent_> hello there
[22:45] <laurent_> i've just installed mythbuntu via alternate cd
[22:45] <laurent_> and need a little help
[22:46] <laurent_> I've launched mcc control center
[22:46] <laurent_> I've launch the backend configuration
[22:46] <laurent_> but i get an error with mysql database
[22:46] <laurent_> --> access denied for user mythtv@localhost
[22:46] <laurent_> can anybody help me?
[23:02] <laurent_> nobody can help me with mysql?
[23:10] <jarle> seems like my ubuntu system is having some problems compiling myth: http://pastebin.ca/1009832 Any idea how to debug this?