| [02:56] <neil_d> ogra: are you there | |
| [03:02] <johnny> neil_d, please stop being people directly | |
| [03:02] <johnny> you are very less likely to get help that way | |
| [03:02] <johnny> it is bad ettiquette | |
| [03:03] <johnny> that is.. unless they ask you to | |
| [03:04] <neil_d> johnny: I was wanting to talk to ogra as he helped me before, and I wanted to inform him/her about the progress | |
| [03:05] <johnny> just ask your question | |
| [03:05] <johnny> the people who can help, will | |
| [03:05] <LaserJock> neil_d: he should be asleep | |
| [03:06] <johnny> always ask your question to the room , unless you were told otherwise | |
| [03:07] <johnny> howdy LaserJock ... how's hardy? | |
| [03:07] * johnny testing possible ubuntu kernel bug | |
| [03:07] <johnny> with a network driver of all things.. | |
| [03:07] <neil_d> johnny: I know that, I wasn't going to ask, I was going to inform. | |
| [03:08] <johnny> only thing he wants to be informed of.. is "thanks, everything works now" :) | |
| [03:08] <johnny> neil_d, people ping him so often, most never get a response | |
| [03:08] <johnny> including me..and i actually work with him on ltsp stuff :) | |
| [03:09] <neil_d> johnny: I didn't know that, I will hold off. | |
| [03:09] <johnny> cuz he'll just see his chat client lit up on that channel.. but he doesn't have time to look for ever time somebody said his name in the list | |
| [03:10] <johnny> i'm just glad people don't ping me that often | |
| [03:24] <neil_d> I am looking for some docs. on setting up a printer on a client | |
| [03:39] <neil_d> the file /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf says I should use /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instead, but this file doesn't exists :( is there something wrong with my setup ? | |
| [05:16] <privet> neil_d: on my new system that file also does not exist. | |
| [05:16] <privet> neil_d: so, I assume, you need to create it if you need modifications from the default | |
| [05:24] <neil_d> privet: yes, it seems so. | |
| [06:00] <neil_d> I have a usb printer (epson cx3700) connected to my client, I setup the 'PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0' for the client, and a raw print queue to socket://192.168.1.20:9100, but when I try to print I get the message "printer xx may not be connected" :( what can I do to fix this ? | |
| [06:02] <johnny> i think i heard something about hardy ltsp install missing jetpipe | |
| [06:03] <johnny> i could be wrong.. can't check atm | |
| [06:03] <neil_d> johnny: can you tell me how to check ? | |
| [06:04] <johnny> lookfor that file ? | |
| [06:04] <johnny> in the chroot? | |
| [06:08] <johnny> i'm fighting a printer right now myself.. just not ltsp or ubuntu related :) | |
| [06:08] <neil_d> johnny: find /opt/ltsp/i386 -name "*jetpipe*" didn't find anything | |
| [06:09] <johnny> check launchpad, see if it is a registered bug | |
| [06:14] <neil_d> johnny: it is there :) Bug #224259 there is a fix as well which I think I can do myself, thanks | |
| [06:50] <neil_d> ok I fixed up that according to the instructions, now the printer did at least do a head clean, but it still isn't printing. | |
| [06:52] <johnny> i've never once printed from a thin client.. my printer is attached to my server :( | |
| [06:52] <johnny> so i don't know howit should work | |
| [06:52] <neil_d> johnny: ok | |
| [06:53] <johnny> please don't say my name everytime | |
| [06:53] <johnny> itmakes my chat client blink | |
| [06:54] <johnny> then again.. on a busy channel.. it can be necessary | |
| [06:54] <johnny> so.. use your best judgement .. | |
| [08:50] <neil_d> when I set the 'PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0' how does it know what printer driver to use ? | |
| [08:50] <johnny> it's always jetpipe i think | |
| [08:51] <johnny> maybe the server side takes care of the actual driver for printing | |
| [08:51] <johnny> one day i'm gonna try it | |
| [08:51] <johnny> neil_d, you shyould come here at different times.. | |
| [08:51] <johnny> it's a bit early for the rest of the crew to be about | |
| [08:52] * neil_d ok | |
| [10:15] <neil_d> I am trying to get a usb printer going on a client, I started up the client with a local shell with "SCREEN_02 = shell" and confirmed that the 'usblp' module is loaded, but I still can't print, :( can anyone help ? | |
| [10:51] <ogra> neil_d, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/224259 | |
| [10:58] <neil_d> ogra: handled that one, by the way I found out what was wrong yesterday, the motherboards bios seems to have a bug in the pxe booting code, tried a different card and all worked fine. | |
| [11:10] <saxonwold> hiya all - we came across a really weird issue, seems gcompris, tuxpaint and tuxmath runs in the back even though none of the users opened or using the app | |
| [11:10] <saxonwold> he is currently chowing 100% of our cpu and memory | |
| [11:10] <ogra> ps aux|grep gcompris | |
| [11:10] <ogra> check which user it is running as | |
| [11:11] <saxonwold> ogra:all of them | |
| [11:11] <saxonwold> i used htop to view wazup | |
| [11:17] <saxonwold> ogra: tuxpaint is all users, tuxmath and gcompris several | |
| [11:17] <ogra> well, they cant start on their own unless the users or you did something to make them do that | |
| [11:18] <ogra> i.e. they saved their session with one of them running ... or you added them to the /etc/xdg/autostart dir | |
| [11:18] <ogra> thas the only two ways i could imagine to cause such a situation | |
| [11:19] <saxonwold> i tried killing them using htop but it fails to kill them | |
| [11:20] <ogra> use sudo htop :) | |
| [11:20] <ogra> you cant just kill other users processes ... root can though | |
| [11:21] <saxonwold> i did that | |
| [11:21] <saxonwold> ogra how else can i kill them | |
| [11:22] <saxonwold> without using htop] | |
| [11:22] <ogra> sudo pkill gcompris | |
| [11:25] <saxonwold> weird they are still there | |
| [11:26] <ogra> you are aware that htop default to show you all threads for a user process ? did you change that setting to only show the main thread ? | |
| [11:26] <neil_d> from a 'shell' on a client is there a command I can run to test the printer ? | |
| [11:26] <ogra> (with f2 i think) | |
| [11:27] <ogra> neil_d, just print a testpage from the print dialog instead ? | |
| [11:29] <saxonwold> ogra: it is not in autostart, i can't kill them, what might be the issue | |
| [11:30] <ogra> beyond them bein in a saved session i have no idea, really, | |
| [11:30] <saxonwold> hmm | |
| [11:31] <ogra> did you switch off the threading in htop ? | |
| [11:31] <ogra> and are you sure they are not zombies ? (tagged with a Z in the ps output) | |
| [11:32] <bimberi> [p]kill -9 ?? | |
| [11:32] <neil_d> on the server the printer has all 'print test page' button etc. are all ghosted. | |
| [11:32] * bimberi doesn't stuff around :) | |
| [11:36] <saxonwold> bimberi: so ??=gcompris | |
| [11:41] <neil_d> can I test the printer from the 'shell' on the client ? | |
| [11:46] <ogra> neil_d, on the client console you mean ? just check if jetpipe is running | |
| [11:46] <ogra> if thats the case the port is forwarded for setting it up in the print manager | |
| [11:50] <bimberi> :/ (I was a bit obscure there) | |
| [11:50] <neil_d> it is running with the args "/dev/usb/lp0" "9100" | |
| [11:51] <ogra> that looks wrong, there shouldnt be a slash, check if that device really exists like that or if its rather /dev/usblp0 (if yo, fix your lts.conf entry) | |
| [11:51] <ogra> s/yo/so/ | |
| [11:55] <neil_d> i have a "crw-rw--- 1 root lp 180, 0 May 7 07:49 /dev/usb/lp0" | |
| [11:56] <ogra> ok, then thats right | |
| [11:56] <ogra> so setting up a jetdirect printer in the print dialog should give you a proper testpage | |
| [12:06] <neil_d> ok so I setup a jetdirect printer, with the generic raw socket device, on socket://192.168.1.20:9100 and the 'print test page' button is still ghosted. | |
| [12:32] <neil_d> it going now :) | |
| [12:40] <ogra> yay | |
| [12:51] <neil_d> is it possible to set up a different default printer on a per user basis ? | |
| [13:02] <neil_d> found out how | |
| [14:56] <comete> hi | |
| [16:31] <Tuneap> can anyone recommend, or point me in the right direction? to software to monitor the clients activities, similar to VNC, to remotely view a clients display in 8.04 please... | |
| [16:31] <Tuneap> that is, I using edubuntu 8.04..... | |
| [16:32] <ogra> do you have edubuntu-desktop installed ? | |
| [16:33] <ogra> (that puls in the italc client into all user sessions, install italc-master to control them) | |
| [16:35] <Tuneap> installed the from the alternate cd, then loaded the add-on CD.. clients will be PXE booting.. I'll check out italc, many thanks! | |
| [16:36] <ogra> not ethat you need a special port for the clients to connect to in ltsp if you add computers in italc master (<external server ip>:<10+last bit of the client> ) if you add computers to italc | |
| [16:37] <ogra> s/last bit of the client/last bit of the client ip/ | |
| [16:37] <Tuneap> they all use the same port, I guess?.. | |
| [16:41] <ogra> no | |
| [16:41] <ogra> each client uses its own | |
| [16:42] <ogra> 10+the last byte of the clients ip | |
| [16:42] <ogra> i.e. if your client shows 192.168.0.220 on the login screen the port would be 10220 | |
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| [23:17] <denvergeek> this may be a dumb question, but I'm experiencing quite the performance issues with edubuntu in an LTSP setup, with GNOME as the display manager. Is there anything non-essential that can be disabled, as far as fancy effects and sound go? | |
| [23:22] <johnny_> is this with hardy? | |
| [23:22] <johnny_> i personally noticed that the 2.6.24 kernel hasn't been friendly to my computer :( | |
| [23:25] <denvergeek> still back a release | |
| [23:25] <denvergeek> 7.10 | |
| [23:25] <denvergeek> haven't had a chance to upgrade yet | |
| [23:28] <johnny_> hmm.. i never had a problem with that | |
| [23:29] <johnny_> i doubt sound is causing you a performance issue | |
| [23:29] <johnny_> and no graphics effects were enabled by default iirc | |