2008/05/04/#ubuntu+1.txt

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[00:35] <alteregoa> heh
[00:35] <alteregoa> high
[00:36] <Prefix> lol next version pre alpha already
[00:36] <Prefix> im impressed :)
[00:36] <alteregoa> inriped
[00:36] <alteregoa> or ontrepid
[00:36] <alteregoa> intrepid, this name is strange
[00:37] <alteregoa> where can i find the roadmap of ibex?
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[02:31] <nalioth> tritium: /msg chanserv op #ubuntu+1
[02:31] <tritium> Yes, I see I have access.
[02:32] <Amaranth> \o/
[02:32] <tritium> Amaranth: :)
[02:33] <Amaranth> time to ban some newbs ;)
[02:42] <RyanPrior> I would beat my op chest with my op fists, but alas, I could not ban my way out of a wet paper bag.
[02:43]  * BunnyRevolution is amused
[03:24] <dfgas> i wish ubuntu had a menu kinda like the vista start menu. It sucks when you have a lot of stuff in for say the games menu
[03:25] <kumarphilly> add a launcher
[03:25] <kumarphilly> dfgas:
[03:26] <kumarphilly> right next to firefox i added a pidgin one
[03:27] <dfgas> what for each thing i want to use?
[03:28] <kumarphilly> hmm
[03:28] <kumarphilly> before clicking on the thing you want a launcher for you gright click and click on add to launcher panel
[03:32] <dfgas> hmmm
[03:32] <dfgas> didn't get any sound in nexuiz
[03:33] <dfgas> sorry wrong chan
[03:33] <kumarphilly> haha
[03:36] <dfgas> :D
[03:36] <dfgas> found a fix however
[03:37] <kumarphilly> ok
[03:37] <kumarphilly> cool
[03:51] <IdleOne> evening all
[03:57] <alex_mayorga> does the Ibex has Firefox nightlies on it?
[05:05] <ZiggyFish> I don't know were to ask this, I use virtual-box, and since the kernel update today, I can't run my virtual-box. When will the kernel modules be updated?
[05:05] <ZiggyFish> for this new kernel version
[05:08] <Boohbah> ZiggyFish: you can use the binary from virtualbox.org
[05:13] <ZiggyFish> thanks :(
[06:59] <RyanPrior> How do I upgrade to Intrepid? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work. This is my first time trying to upgrade pre-alpha - I want to run an Intrepid VM and see what things break.
[07:08] <hydrogen> don't.
[07:09] <RyanPrior> hydrogen: I always hear "expect breakage, and don't upgrade unless you want to deal with failure". Well, I expect breakage, and I want to deal with failure, but I don't know what the new repos are or what the command is to switch to them.
[07:09] <hydrogen> if all you want to do is deal with failure
[07:09] <hydrogen> then why do you want to upgrade?
[07:10] <hydrogen> and, if you don't know how to upgrade, you probably shouldn't be upgrading
[07:11] <RyanPrior> hydrogen: Why shouldn't I be upgrading? I want to upgrade, specifically to see what breaks during the upgrade, so I can understand more about the upgrade process and follow progress.
[07:11] <hydrogen> everythings going to break, intrepid just started
[07:11] <hydrogen> wait until theres something to upgrade to
[07:12] <RyanPrior> hydrogen: so, you'll tell me when I'm older? That's disappointing. :-(
[07:13] <lemonade> RyanPrior: change /etc/apt/sources.list hardy->intrepid; run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade (or use aptitude or graphical installer)
[07:13] <lemonade> RyanPrior: and have fun
[07:14] <RyanPrior> Thanks. Fun will be had - though perhaps, as hydrogen says, not in earnest for another week or two.
[07:14] <hydrogen> and don't say in a thing here when it doesn't work
[07:14] <RyanPrior> No complaints from me until Alpha 1. :-)
[07:33] <alex_mayorga> can one jump to the ibex already?
[08:13] <Sionide> apparently yes, alex_mayorga..
[08:13] <Sionide> if one doesn't mind significant instability and recovering from total system failure
[08:13] <alex_mayorga> Sionide, guide please?
[08:14] <alex_mayorga> I'm probably going to debian anyway so hit me please
[08:14] <Sionide> *shrug*
[08:15] <Sionide> do what lemonade suggests above..
[08:16] <alex_mayorga> no above here, just joined minutes ago
[08:17] <Sionide> oh my bad, i turned off join/part messages heh
[08:17] <Sionide> <lemonade> RyanPrior: change /etc/apt/sources.list hardy->intrepid; run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade (or use aptitude or graphical installer)
[08:19] <alex_mayorga> Sionide, thanks
[08:20] <Sionide> but as they were saying, there's not much worth upgrading for just yet
[08:24] <alex_mayorga> but then I could take my problems into this less crowded channel and start nominating the bugs that have haunted me since feisty :)
[08:40] <Luckrider> !upgrade
[08:40] <Luckrider> !pastebin
[08:40] <pen> hi
[08:40] <Luckrider> ubotu is broken
[08:40] <pen> How's intriped Ibex?
[08:40] <pen> good?
[08:40] <Luckrider> don't know
[08:40] <Luckrider> still have Hardy
[08:40] <pen> yea
[08:40] <Luckrider> had it since beta
[08:40] <pen> I bet so
[08:40] <pen> yea
[08:40] <pen> same here
[08:41] <Luckrider> Hardy wa smore stable as beta than gusty and Fiesty were stable as Stable versions
[08:41] <Luckrider> for me at least
[08:41] <pen> hardy is better than the previous version
[08:41] <Luckrider> yeah
[08:42] <pen> even the live cd is far mroe better
[08:42] <Luckrider> oh yeah
[08:42] <Luckrider> thelive cd loaded faster than the HDD load
[08:42] <pen> no more slow down or bugs
[08:42] <Luckrider> that is strange
[08:42] <pen> lol
[08:42] <Luckrider> I like i though
[08:42] <Luckrider> and...
[08:42] <pen> less stuff to load probably
[08:42] <pen> or RAM is good
[08:42] <Luckrider> it is like 3:40 in the mornig here
[08:42] <Luckrider> probly
[08:42] <Luckrider> but...
[08:42] <Luckrider> I am so tired
[08:43] <Luckrider> Had SATs yesterday
[08:43] <Luckrider> got up at 6
[08:43] <Luckrider> so
[08:43] <Luckrider> I have been up for almost 22 hours
[08:43] <Luckrider> plus a mohor test that sucked
[08:43] <pen> lol
[08:43] <pen> I had ACT
[08:43] <Luckrider> but...
[08:43] <Luckrider> that sucks
[08:43] <Luckrider> but... Ubotu is broken
[08:43] <pen> not this year
[08:43] <pen> lol
[08:43] <Luckrider> or not here
[08:43] <pen> they haven't set up yet
[08:43] <Luckrider> oh
[08:44] <Luckrider> man, I like ubotu
[08:44] <Luckrider> he is cool
[08:44] <pen> lol
[08:44] <Luckrider> brb
[08:44] <pen> k
[08:45] <Luckrider> back
[08:45] <Luckrider> lots of Dr. Pepper and water
[08:45] <Luckrider> now it i gone
[08:45] <Luckrider> *is
[08:49] <alex_mayorga> I still have a laptop whose graphics won't work on the final Hardy Live CD
[08:49] <pvandewyngaerde> i have such a computer
[08:50] <alex_mayorga> nvidia maybe?
[08:50] <pvandewyngaerde> nope, a very old computer
[08:51] <pen> hi
[08:51] <pen> back
[08:51] <pen> lol, we are talking about hardy in Intriped Ibex channel
[08:52] <alex_mayorga> !ot
[08:52] <alex_mayorga> :)
[09:57] <bobbo> Is anyone else having problems with the latest gcc-4.2 and perl updates?
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[14:02] <cbr> hi, my Xorg in intrepid cant find the FIXED font and fails
[14:02] <cbr> what's going on?
[14:03] <bardyr> i have the same problem
[14:04] <stdin> I'd say "It'd broken, sorry"
[14:04] <stdin> do not expect anything to work right now, at all. and if, by chance, something does work, expect it to break soon
[14:05] <cbr> it seems like some trivial b0rkage.. any workaround or smth?
[14:05] <cbr> well, things like binutils and Xorg i expect to find at least working :D
[14:06] <cbr> other stuff is natural to break
[14:07] <cbr> oh, the kernel too :p
[14:09] <cbr> is there a relevant bugreport?
[14:09] <cbr> i might try to observe it with links :p
[14:17] <cbr> okay, links2 locked my screen, nice :D
[14:20] <cbr> so noone has any idea about the problem?
[14:24] <stdin> if you can't live without X, then try Hardy
[14:24] <cbr> i had hardy.. it doesnt get updates anymore
[14:24] <rsk> =)
[14:25] <rsk> cbr: yea only security and bugfixes
[14:25] <cbr> exactly
[14:25] <stdin> enable -updates -backports and -proposed then, there are already some in -proposed
[14:26] <cbr> hmm
[14:26] <cbr> guess i'll have to use a knoppix cd then because i really need X tonight
[14:26] <cbr> mb going to put back debian unstable or smth..
[14:27] <cbr> they tend to keep the real borkage in experimental :p
[14:29] <rsk> =)
[14:33] <IdleOne> wow cant load Software Sources . crashes
[14:34] <IdleOne> ahh the problem is gcc4.2.2
[14:36] <rsk> what's . ?
[14:43] <RussellGee> cbr: i have the same problem
[14:43] <RussellGee> tried copying fonts from hardy never worked though
[14:45] <RussellGee> lol, hes away
[14:45] <RussellGee> anyone else got the same problem?
[15:08] <bobbo> damn, im getting the X errors too :/
[15:31] <slipttees> hi
[15:31] <slipttees> released for upgrade from update-manager ?
[15:52] <dhq> hello guys ... i just installed kubuntu 8.04 but the problem is it uses vesa drivers when i install the propariety drivers i get the white screen of death
[15:52] <hydrogen> ...
[15:52] <hydrogen> ask in one channel
[15:52] <hydrogen> not at least three
[16:01] <RussellGee> Does anyone have a fix for the "default font not found" when trying to start X ?
[16:08] <bobbo> RussellGee: not yet, Xorg is still broken for me
[16:09] <hwilde> !topic | Benjamin_L
[16:10] <hwilde> Benjamin_L,  "For more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Intrepid is PRE-ALPHA softare, and we do NOT recommend that users upgrade at this time."
[16:10] <RussellGee> bobbo: i have tried loads of things, copied & pasted fonts from hardy, reinstalled xfonts-base, reinstalled X
[16:10] <bicyclis1> Just wondering, how are your experiences with updating from gutsy to hardy ? In "earlier" days i just to do a fresh install but this time it was "only" an update yet it seems to run smoothly fore me.
[16:10] <RussellGee> its something silly just i cant work it out :P
[16:11] <bobbo> RussellGee: heh, my plan was just to wait until someone got round to fixing it :)
[16:13] <RussellGee> lol, it gives me something to do instead of studying for my exams :p
[16:14] <RussellGee> next one is tuesday and im dreading it :s
[16:14] <bobbo> My first one is tuesday, got another on Thursday, cant be bothered with them
[16:14] <bobbo> got better things to do, like watch people fix Xorg on IRC
[16:15] <RussellGee> Standard Grades?
[16:15] <RussellGee> lol
[16:15] <bobbo> yeah, English and Maths :)
[16:15] <RussellGee> lol same :p
[16:15] <bobbo> hehe :D
[16:15] <RussellGee> you only got 2 :P
[16:15] <RussellGee> lucky *****
[16:15] <bobbo> i got another on the 22nd but thats *ages* away :P
[16:16] <RussellGee> i got 8
[16:16] <RussellGee> lol
[16:16] <bobbo> sucks :/
[16:17] <RussellGee> what levels you sitting?
[16:17] <bobbo> Maths General, English and Modern Studies Credit, you?
[16:18] <Benjamin_L> So now on to asking my question again, did anyone find a way to fix this kinit problem yet or do we have to wait for an update?
[16:18] <Benjamin_L> I hope this is the right channel now..
[16:18] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, what exactly is your problem ?
[16:19] <RussellGee> English, Chemistry, Computing, Craft, Physics, Business Mng, Graphics Credit
[16:19] <RussellGee> and Maths Int2
[16:19] <daekdroom> o.o
[16:19] <Benjamin_L> ubuntu starts up until the xserver would normally start, I get a message "kinit: name to dev_t ..." No resume image, doing normal boot
[16:20] <bobbo> RussellGee: I was supposed to do maths Int2, then i got 34% in the prelim :/
[16:20] <Benjamin_L> the xserver tries to start but fails after doing it four times
[16:20] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, so you're at a terminal ?  type "startx"
[16:20] <bobbo> RussellGee: back on topic :P, Bug #226514 has a solution
[16:21] <bobbo> RussellGee: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfont/+bug/226514
[16:21] <RussellGee> bobbo: i just scraped it ;)
[16:22] <RussellGee> Cheers
[16:22] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: alsready tried that, I get hostname: Unknown host, etc. bad display name "z347:0" in "list" command and the same for "resume" unable to connect to the x server
[16:22] <Benjamin_L> i found something that it might be related to /etc/hosts
[16:22] <Benjamin_L> but that file is fine
[16:23] <RussellGee> bobbo: going to try that now
[16:23] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, can you pastebin   /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[16:24] <Benjamin_L> I only have internet on my laptop now but I'll type it, just a second
[16:24] <Benjamin_L> hostname is z347
[16:24] <hwilde> that error message is related to one of those files.
[16:26] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: http://pastebin.ca/1007038
[16:27] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, change that line to     127.0.0.1 localhost z347
[16:28] <hwilde> then the display z347:0 should resolve to localhost:0
[16:28] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: thanks, I'll try
[16:30] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: the x server still doesn't seem to like me but the messages about unknown host are gone now
[16:30] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, what is the error now
[16:30] <Benjamin_L> can't connect to the x server
[16:30] <hwilde> right xserver is not running
[16:30] <hwilde> do ummm   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[16:31] <hwilde> !restartx | Benjamin_L
[16:31] <hwilde> hey where is ubottu
[16:31] <Benjamin_L> I tried to restart gdm and even rebooted but to no avail
[16:32] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: fatal server error: could not open default font fixed
[16:33] <hwilde> ah there you go
[16:33] <hwilde> what'd you do to your fonts
[16:33] <Benjamin_L> nothing, it worked alright up to the latest updates I did this morning
[16:34] <Benjamin_L> /usr/share/fonts/X11 still the right directory?
[16:34] <hwilde> where is that default font defined ?
[16:35] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: good question, my xorg.conf doesn't mention anything like 'fixed'
[16:36] <bobbo> RussellGee: has downgrading fixed it for you?
[16:36] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[16:37] <RussellGee> bobbo: just about to boot into it just now to see
[16:37] <RussellGee> brb
[16:39] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: still the same
[16:40] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: some lines above it tells me "could not init font path element ..., removing from list"
[16:41] <Benjamin_L> seems to do this with every font listed in xorg.conf
[16:44] <hwilde> well... that's your problem right there
[16:44] <hwilde> but i'm not sure how to fix that one
[16:44] <hwilde> did you get all the updates?
[16:44] <RussellGee> bobbo: yeah it worked
[16:44] <bobbo> wahey :D
[16:44] <Benjamin_L> yep, all concerning the x server, maybe only some have been ready and now things are messed up, I don't know
[16:45] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, backup your xorg.conf , delete it, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:45] <RussellGee> bobbo: still have some dependency problems but atleast things are booting now ;)
[16:46] <bobbo> RussellGee: dpendency problems with "cpp-4.2 gcc-4.2 gcc-4.2-base perl perl-base perl-modules"?
[16:46] <hwilde> what I still want to know is when you apt-get instal openssh-server from the livecd,  where does it install to exactly?
[16:47] <RussellGee> plus cups and a few other things
[16:47] <Benjamin_L> hwilde: still the same
[16:47] <Benjamin_L> guess I'll have to wait and see
[16:47] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, it's not from xorg.conf then
[16:47] <hwilde> something else
[16:48] <bobbo> RussellGee: about the dpendencies problem, do you get https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/226400 when you run update-manager?
[16:48] <Benjamin_L> I just read about a font-server but the post was from 2004, sounds outdated :)
[16:49] <Benjamin_L> should I install xfs or xfstt?
[16:50] <RussellGee> bobbo: yeap
[16:50] <bobbo> RussellGee: heh, thats been annoying me all dy
[16:50] <bobbo> s/dy/day
[16:51] <RussellGee> apt is still working fine though
[16:52] <bobbo> yeah gcc and perl are messing *everything* up
[16:52] <bobbo> except installing and removing
[16:52] <RussellGee> i actually thought it was just me
[16:53] <RussellGee> i upgrade mabey a little to quickly lol
[16:53] <bobbo> its more fun when you dont know if your computers going to boot everyday :)
[16:53] <RussellGee> yeah :p
[16:54] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: atm its not that much fun ^^
[16:54] <RussellGee> i really would be better off just using sid :p
[16:55] <RussellGee> upgrading perl basicly removes everything lol
[16:55] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: my update manager showed the same, haven't seen it since rebooting ;)
[16:56] <bobbo> Benjamin_L: im too scared to reboot after almost having no Xorg
[16:56] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: that where my desktop is now, no xorg and no obvious reason how to fix it
[16:57] <bobbo> Benjamin_L: did you try downgrading libxfont1?
[16:57] <Benjamin_L> I still wonder why there is no intrepid forum on ubuntuforums, all the development forums have been that useful for fixing problem
[16:57] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: no, ILl try
[16:57] <RussellGee> i was thinking the same thing
[16:58] <RussellGee> should be made soon
[16:59] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: only got the latest version in /var/cache/apt/archives :/
[17:00] <hwilde> Benjamin_L, you could try the wiki   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[17:00] <bobbo> Benjamin_L: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10007/plain/
[17:01] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: I'll try, but I'll have to cut my internet connection on my laptop for that, see you later
[17:02]  * hwilde wonders how he expects to make intrepid work if he can't share internet...
[17:03] <hwilde> Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[17:03] <hwilde> Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[17:03] <RussellGee> brb
[17:04] <Benjamin_L> bobbo: this fixed it, thank you
[17:05] <bobbo> Benjamin_L: no problem :)
[17:06] <RussellGee> bobbo: have you tried downgrading update-manager to fix that problem?
[17:07] <bobbo> RussellGee: no i think it because of the dependency problems, not a problem with update-manager
[17:07]  * bobbo goes to check the changelog anyway
[17:08] <bobbo> nah its the same version in Hardy and Intrepid, definately because of the other dpe's problems
[17:08] <RussellGee> Ok
[17:13] <bobbo> how do you get apt to lock at a version of a package? So its not trying to upgrade to the dodgy libxfont1 package
[17:13] <RussellGee> synaptic
[17:13] <RussellGee> find your package
[17:13] <Sionide> --no-upgrade
[17:14] <RussellGee> packages > lock pakage
[17:14] <RussellGee> package*
[17:14] <bobbo> thanks guys :)
[17:14] <RussellGee> lock version sorry
[17:15] <RussellGee> is the ubuntu uk server behind the main server?
[17:17] <RussellGee> anyone know?
[17:18] <bobbo> RussellGee: nah sorry
[17:18]  * bobbo grabs the new htop update :D
[17:19] <Benjamin_L> so thanks to everyone who helped me, lets hope we get an intrepid forum soon :) bye
[17:19] <bobbo> bye Benjamin_L
[17:19] <RussellGee> benjamin: i might go do some moaning see if we can get it
[17:19] <RussellGee> :P
[17:20] <RussellGee> bye
[18:06] <fidelio> Hi everybod
[18:07] <fidelio> I upgraded from dapper to HArdy without problems..except that my external ntsf HD didn't get mounted...any idea?
[18:16] <fidelio> I upgraded from dapper to HArdy without problems..except that my external ntsf HD didn't get mounted...any idea?
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[18:17] <hydrogen> I have an idea!
[18:17] <hydrogen> You are in the wronng channel
[18:17] <daekdroom> fidelio: Hardy support is at #ubuntu
[18:38] <david_-_-> can anyone please help me with this post ? i really need to get this fixed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780525
[18:40] <RussellGee> david: your in the wrong place
[18:40] <RussellGee> go to #ubuntu for support
[18:40] <RussellGee> this is for intriped
[18:40] <david_-_-> RussellGee: i have for two hours now and no one will help me not even in #wine.
[18:41] <david_-_-> this room used to be for hardy why is it now for intriped?
[18:41] <RussellGee> hardy is now released
[18:42] <RussellGee> hardy is now #ubuntu
[18:42] <RussellGee> for a start you need to .wine directory is owned by root which is wrong
[18:43] <RussellGee> to fix the .wine*
[18:43] <RussellGee> go to #ubuntu for help
[18:43] <david_-_-> RussellGee: i have wine .61 i compiled from source and i can not uninstall it do you mind helping me ?
[18:43] <RussellGee> 0.9.59 is in the repos
[18:44] <RussellGee> cd into the source directory that you installed from and type sudo make uninstall
[18:44] <david_-_-> RussellGee:ok thanks but no one will help me in there with anything for some reason they all ignore me.
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[18:51] <gnomefreak> daekdroom: RussellGee is right but for wine #winehq is most of time better faster and more informitive
[18:51] <gnomefreak> opps
[18:51] <gnomefreak> hes gone
[19:00] <Skiessi> is x broken at the moment?
[19:02] <bobbo> Skiessi: yeah, theres a problem with libxfonts
[19:18] <D_Eagle> i m facing serious problem in kubuntu, I can't shutdown my computer ! :(can any body help ?big problem while shutting down... i always hard shutdown my computer :(
[19:19] <D_Eagle>  just blank screen appears and stays like that
[19:22] <Skiessi> is your pc pre-2k one?
[19:23] <Skiessi> when you're booting your pc, does it whine about acpi for a line?
[19:24] <Skiessi> because I have that problem in my older pc
[19:24] <D_Eagle> no no
[19:24] <D_Eagle> its toshiba laptop
[19:25] <lemonade> D_Eagle: it might be issue with usplash
[19:25] <lemonade> check if /etc/usplash.conf has wrong resolutions set
[19:25] <D_Eagle> hmm.. okay
[19:26] <D_Eagle> the resolution is okay
[19:26] <lemonade> ok
[19:29] <Skiessi> does it show the progress bar and you see it finish, but it just doesn't shut down?
[19:30] <D_Eagle> nothing but a blank screen appears and stays like that
[19:30] <D_Eagle> but if i press ctrl+alt+backspace login window appears
[19:30] <Xsss4hell> Ubuntu Hardy | Linux SGC-Atlantis 2.6.24-17-generic | FritzBoxWLAN Stick | Does not work. PLEASE HELP OUT!
[19:30] <D_Eagle> and from there if i shutdown again, then i can see all those progressbars
[19:31] <D_Eagle> but even after that.. the computer doesn't turn off
[19:31] <daekdroom> Xsss4hell: Ubuntu Hardy support is at #ubuntu
[19:32] <Xsss4hell> what is ubuntu+1?
[19:32] <Skiessi> Intrepid Ibex
[19:32] <daekdroom> Development version.
[19:32] <Skiessi> 8.10
[19:32] <Xsss4hell> ah
[19:32] <Xsss4hell> kernel version?
[19:33] <daekdroom> Er..
[19:33] <bobbo> Xsss4hell: same as hardy at the moment
[19:33] <Xsss4hell> ah
[19:33] <bobbo> 2.6.24-17
[19:33] <daekdroom> It's just a hardy with a few updates that break everything.
[19:33] <Skiessi> yeah that's about it
[19:33] <Xsss4hell> =) hah yes the common
[19:34] <Xsss4hell> the usual
[19:35] <alex_mayorga> would the separate /home partition be a "default" on Ibex?
[19:36] <AtomicSpark> no. for we are not suse.
[19:36] <AtomicSpark> :P
[19:37] <Xsss4hell> it's a good idea, but still only a recommandation, so put it into the auto partition thingy.
[19:37] <AtomicSpark> but i agree there should be more options for installing. like it shouldnt just be default, lvm (which takes you to another default only option), and custom.
[19:37] <alex_mayorga> this maybe https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/install-overwrite
[19:38] <alex_mayorga> ubiquity should be smart enough to realize it's a reinstall and try to preserve as much as possible
[19:39] <alex_mayorga> pretty much as it tries to get docs and prefs from Windows install
[19:39] <AtomicSpark> and fails D:
[19:40] <alex_mayorga> it even copied my froggie user-icon from Windows successfully
[19:40] <Xsss4hell> ^indeed
[19:40] <AtomicSpark> so is there a list yet of what might be in ibex?
[19:41] <AtomicSpark> we at least still need a 8.04.1.. so many little problems.
[19:42] <AtomicSpark> im going back to offtopic. can't have two conversations about the same thing. ;)
[19:43] <alex_mayorga> I proposed the blueprint for UDS
[19:44] <alex_mayorga> is that OK/acceptable?
[19:46] <alex_mayorga> probably this one is better or at leas includes a use case https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/home-partition-integration-with-installer
[19:52] <alex_mayorga> !blueprint
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[20:40] <hotmonkeyluv> where can I d/l 8.10?
[20:40] <hotmonkeyluv> as an iso
[20:40] <hotmonkeyluv> (is it even possible)?
[20:45] <Skiessi> you don't want to do that, probably
[20:45] <Skiessi> omgomg is there a typo in the topic? :O
[20:47] <RussellGee> hotmonkeyluv: there is no iso's
[20:48] <RussellGee> not untill alpha 1 anyway
[20:48] <RussellGee> plus its not a good idea anyway atm
[20:48] <hotmonkeyluv> I know
[20:49] <hotmonkeyluv> but I have a computer sitting around that uses scsi, and nothing I've tried (besides xp, but we all know how we feel about that) works.
[20:49] <RussellGee> well if u must
[20:50] <RussellGee> get hardy and replace hardy with intrepid in your source.list file
[20:50] <RussellGee> then update
[20:54] <hotmonkeyluv> but the problem with that is that I can't install ubuntu to my scsi machine
[20:54] <hotmonkeyluv> so I can't do all that cool configing stuff
[20:55] <bobbo> hotmonkeyluv: #ubuntu might be a better place to try to get help installing Hardy
[20:56] <hotmonkeyluv> yeah, I suppose
[20:56] <hotmonkeyluv> I just wanted to try to install the newest and shakiest stuff
[20:58] <bobbo> hotmonkeyluv: heh, Intrepid is *really* shaky
[20:58] <hotmonkeyluv> lol
[20:58] <bobbo> as in nothing works :D
[20:58] <hotmonkeyluv> hrm, well... that sucks
[20:59] <bobbo> hehe, its fun if you like trying to fix things though
[20:59] <hotmonkeyluv> yup, that's me
[21:23] <mysterycool> Hmmm, so the next release is gonna be called Interpid?
[21:23] <Hydrogen> thats what the topic says
[21:24] <mysterycool> hmm, weird
[21:24] <mysterycool> I mean, the latest releases' names were like -y
[21:24] <mysterycool> like, hardy, gutsy, feisty etc... =]
[21:34] <Laser87> intrepid
[21:34] <Laser87> all adjectives - noone cares bout -y
[21:36] <BunnyRevolution> interesting observation
[23:12] <RussellGee> anyone know at what time the syncs happen at ?
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