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| [06:38] <tjaalton> ugh, my stomach.. | |
| [07:52] <bryce> tjaalton: :-) | |
| [07:53] <tjaalton> getting better ;) | |
| [07:53] <tjaalton> but I had to skip breakfast | |
| [07:54] <bryce> better have plenty of water | |
| [07:54] <tjaalton> yeah | |
| [07:57] <bryce> I think the openweek session went well, lots of good questions | |
| [07:58] <bryce> not yet evidence of new contributors, but of course there's lots of time yet | |
| [07:59] <tjaalton> I lurked there for a while | |
| [08:02] <tjaalton> but was feeling a bit tired, so didn't raise my voice | |
| [08:02] <bryce> no prob, hopefully I didn't get anything too wrong | |
| [08:03] <tjaalton> I'll check the logs now :) | |
| [08:05] <tjaalton> the OneSecondX fixes should be in xserver 1.5 | |
| [08:05] <tjaalton> at least some of them | |
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| [08:33] <bryce> heya Q-FUNK | |
| [08:33] <Q-FUNK> hey | |
| [08:34] <Q-FUNK> bryce: what's up? :) | |
| [08:35] <bryce> Q-FUNK: at the moment working on prepping an sru for some -intel quirks, and rebuilding my dev box | |
| [08:35] <Q-FUNK> ok | |
| [08:36] <Q-FUNK> any news on merging the PCI ID patch to add support for "geode" ? | |
| [08:36] <bryce> Q-FUNK: hey btw Marc Tardif mentioned that maddog was very pleased with how things turned out with geode | |
| [08:36] <bryce> "This is all thanks to the combined efforts | |
| [08:36] <bryce> of David Bensimon, Bryce Harrington and Martin-Éric Racine." | |
| [08:36] <Q-FUNK> bryce: obviously he was. they made poor Jordan jumpt through hoops to produce a libDDC patch overnight. | |
| [08:37] <Q-FUNK> (or well, maddog did, when he pressured AMD's VP) | |
| [08:37] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: the patch is waiting in git | |
| [08:37] <Q-FUNK> btw, I finally reached an agreement with Jordan to release that patch as a new upstream, if we need to, to really close this issue. | |
| [08:38] <Q-FUNK> (the libDDC patch) | |
| [08:38] <bryce> cool | |
| [08:39] <Q-FUNK> my question to you both: which one would be more acceptable as an SRU: running autoconf ourselves on a patched 2.8.0 or having upstream do that for us on what we would call 2.9.0 ? | |
| [08:39] <bryce> what would running autoconf attain? | |
| [08:40] <Q-FUNK> we need to regenerate the symbols to get the build to take into consideration a new geode_ddc.c | |
| [08:41] <bryce> ok, what does the new geode_ddc.c do? | |
| [08:41] <Q-FUNK> doing this ourselves on a home-patched 2.8.0 produces a pointlessly huge diff, just for the new config.sub & co | |
| [08:41] <bryce> right | |
| [08:42] <Q-FUNK> it replaces reliance upon BIOS environment to produce EDID with the X.org libddc that performs the same in a BIOS-free way. it's what fixes it for Koolu. | |
| [08:42] <bryce> if it can wait until 8.04.1 I think that sounds like it'd give decent justification for 2.9.0; assuming that 2.9.0 is mostly bug fix (and maybe reasonably safe/lightweight feature work) | |
| [08:44] <Q-FUNK> we'd only bump the minor because we replaced code segments with a different implementation. basically, 2.9.0 would indeed be applying that libDDC patch that's already attached to the bug, then doing autoreconf | |
| [08:44] <Q-FUNK> and that's all | |
| [08:45] <Q-FUNK> we'd move the goal to complete OLPC integration to the next upstream | |
| [08:45] <Q-FUNK> but then that would be for intrepid | |
| [08:45] <bryce> then it sounds like getting 2.9.0 in for 8.04.1 should be pretty straightforward | |
| [08:45] <bryce> getting it SRU'd though would probably be a challenge... they seem to prefer individual patches (and small ones), however the fix sounds quite appropriate in scope | |
| [08:46] <Q-FUNK> well, either we run autoconf or upstream does. in either case, the code change itself is only that patch. | |
| [08:47] <bryce> sru'ing the autoconf changes on the current 2.8.0 -amd would probably be a decent place to start. If the RM's balk at that, offering a packaged 2.9.0 would be a good fallback | |
| [08:47] <bryce> worst case, we could probably fish out the exact Makefile.in changes needed to make the thing work. | |
| [08:48] <bryce> maybe if we can show clearly that 2.9.0 is strictly just the one patch, the RM's would be amenable to that | |
| [08:58] <Q-FUNK> hm... we'd need several Makefile.in, actually | |
| [08:59] <Q-FUNK> and then if any moro decides to build from source, he'd have an out of sync Makefile.am and aclocal.m4 | |
| [09:04] <bryce> if we have to patch Makefile.in(s) individually, we'd need corresponding Makefile.am changes. I've done this before; it's a lot of work and quite error prone. | |
| [09:05] <bryce> imho better to have a huge autoconf patch than take the risk of hand-crafted Makefile.[am|in] fixups, but whatever gets the job done I guess | |
| [09:11] <Q-FUNK> I wouldn't take a risk with cherry picking files from an autoreconf. we really need to take the whole change as a lot. | |
| [09:11] <Q-FUNK> btw, if you want to compare a pristine 2.8.0 with one that has autoreconf, debian has a +git release | |
| [09:13] <Q-FUNK> I used the libtool, autoconf and automake from Hardy to produce it | |
| [09:43] <Q-FUNK> added as comment to the bug | |
| [09:44] <Q-FUNK> bryce: btw, where did this message by Marc pop out? | |
| [09:45] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: is the comming for the geode PCI ID made as "geode" or "amd" ? | |
| [09:46] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: upstream and I would prefer "geode" | |
| [09:49] <bryce> heya james_w | |
| [09:49] <bryce> Q-FUNK: was a private email | |
| [09:49] <james_w> hi bryce | |
| [09:49] <james_w> how are you? | |
| [09:49] <bryce> james_w: doing good. you? | |
| [09:49] <james_w> good thanks | |
| [09:52] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: geode | |
| [10:01] <Q-FUNK> bryce: ok. it's at least good to know that my efforts are appreciated. | |
| [10:06] <bryce> Q-FUNK: I'll forward you the entire email | |
| [10:07] <Q-FUNK> ah, that would be nice. thanks! :) | |
| [10:17] <bryce> sent | |
| [10:17] <Q-FUNK> pretty nice email indeed | |