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| [12:21] <crlcan81> Hi everybody, I just was wondering how much of a difference goign from win xp to ubuntu was gonna be like. And waht all I gotta do to get it installed on my system. Also is it possible to dual boot with it and xp. | |
| [12:22] <crlcan81> also, no CD burner. | |
| [12:22] <crlcan81> so gotta find some way to run the ISO without a CD | |
| [12:22] <crlcan81> anyone able to help? | |
| [12:23] <crlcan81> *sighs* guess not | |
| [12:24] <Nafallo> !help | |
| [12:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | |
| [12:24] <Nafallo> hmm | |
| [12:24] <Nafallo> no | |
| [12:24] <Nafallo> crlcan81: the help channel you are looking for is probably #ubuntu :-) | |
| [12:25] <crlcan81> well I just.. I really don't trust linux ever since Mandrake I think it was. | |
| [12:25] <crlcan81> I got the ONE version you didn't wanna get. | |
| [12:25] <crlcan81> Which my local walmart only had THAT. | |
| [12:25] <crlcan81> still downloading the ISO though. | |
| [13:39] <andreasn> mpt: ping | |
| [14:25] <Keybuk> interesting | |
| [14:25] <Keybuk> hadn't noticed we use rhythmbox for cd extraction | |
| [14:25] <Keybuk> (I think I did know, but hadn't actually seen it to really know :p) | |
| [14:28] <Amaranth> rhythmbox can do that now? | |
| [14:30] <bhale> used to be sound-juicer | |
| [14:43] <Keybuk> yup | |
| [14:43] <Keybuk> actually, the experience is very nice | |
| [14:44] <Keybuk> having one app for managing music, burning to cd, ripping from cd, copying to/from music players, etc. feels right | |
| [14:44] <Keybuk> I have a niggle that it's awkward to fix a CD that doesn't have a CDDB entry | |
| [14:44] <Keybuk> and that it's awkward to deal with compilation CDs (but SJ has that issue too) | |
| [14:55] <Keybuk> it's great though that I can rip from CD into Ogg for the library | |
| [14:55] <Keybuk> and then drag them onto my phone, which converts them to MP3 automatically | |
| [14:55] <Keybuk> and it's even cooler when I know how little code that takes | |
| [14:55] <Keybuk> (well, little code for the app - gstreamer rocks) | |
| [15:56] * Ng looks for an officially correct way for a user to install a font | |
| [15:56] <Ng> gnome 2.22's user guide lists two options, neither of which work | |
| [15:57] <Ng> and that user guide seems to be what we have in System->Help | |
| [15:58] <Ng> it says use System->Preferences->Font (which we don't have, but even the Fonts bit of Appearance doesn't have the "Go to font folder" button they reference), and gvfs doesn't support fonts:/// | |
| [16:03] <ofh> helo someone here ? | |
| [16:03] <ofh> have a prob with firefox plugin | |
| [16:04] <ofh> can't install as a non-root user | |
| [16:04] <ofh> anny advise | |
| [16:10] <mpt> andreasn, ponggggg | |
| [16:10] <andreasn> hey | |
| [16:11] <andreasn> there was a dude in #tango that asked for advice on the nautilus copy dialog, but I pointed him to usability list | |
| [16:15] <mpt> andreasn, do you mean the progress window, or the name conflict alert? | |
| [16:16] <andreasn> the progress window | |
| [16:16] <mpt> ooh interesting | |
| [16:16] <andreasn> File operations dialog redesign | |
| [16:17] <andreasn> is the header of the e-mail | |
| [16:19] <mpt> yes, reading it :-) | |
| [16:19] <mpt> thanks | |
| [16:21] <mpt> Why did it change? | |
| [16:22] <andreasn> from what was in 2.20? | |
| [16:22] <andreasn> someone decided it popped up too many dialogs when you copied two or more things at a time | |
| [16:23] <mpt> oh, because it's stacked | |
| [16:23] <mpt> good good | |
| [16:23] <andreasn> the notification area thingy is a bit weird though | |
| [16:23] <mpt> notification area thingy? | |
| [16:24] <mpt> oh! | |
| [16:24] <mpt> yeah, that's a bit bong | |
| [16:24] <mpt> it does nothing minimize couldn't do | |
| [16:24] <mpt> Oh, I know why it's there | |
| [16:26] <mpt> It's because _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE doesn't have a "progress window" type | |
| [16:26] <mpt> therefore progress windows get a close button when they shouldn't | |
| [16:26] <mpt> and if you close it, how are you going to reopen it again? | |
| [16:26] <mpt> by clicking the notification area mcguffin | |
| [16:28] <andreasn> hm? you can do that? | |
| [16:28] <andreasn> sounds really weird | |
| [16:28] <mpt> so basically the new window does what's suggested in the "Tiling windows" section of <http://www.mackido.com/Interface/Copy.html> | |
| [16:28] <mpt> yeah, it is really weird :-) | |
| [16:28] <mpt> (the notification area thing, I mean, not the combining) | |
| [16:29] <andreasn> yeah | |
| [16:30] <calc> Ng: for a local user only copy into ~/.fonts | |
| [16:30] <calc> Ng: then run fc-cache | |
| [16:30] <calc> Ng: that is the non-gui way | |
| [16:30] <calc> Ng: aiui fonts: is broken due to conversion to gvfs, probably will be fixed in next gnome release | |
| [16:31] <calc> Ng: probably worth filing a bug against the appropriate thing in launchpad though if it isn't there already | |
| [16:31] * calc bbl | |
| [16:32] <calc> Ng: or pinging seb128 about it at some point | |
| [16:44] <andreasn> mpt: nice work on the User Experince stuff in the ubuntu wiki btw | |
| [16:45] <mpt> thanks | |
| [16:51] <Ng> calc: .fonts is what I would have done. i think we should have a better way to do this | |
| [16:51] <Ng> even fonts:// is hideously undiscoverable | |
| [16:52] <Ng> gnome-font-viewer and right clicking on a ttf in nautilus should both offer a user install | |
| [16:52] <Ng> imho :) | |
| [18:43] <slomo__> hm, update-manager doesn't allow dist upgrades from feisty to hardy but only from gutsy/dapper to hardy? | |
| [18:47] <Nafallo> slomo__: should be right | |
| [18:48] <slomo__> doesn't make things easy here... gutsy doesn't boot ;) | |
| [19:03] <Nafallo> slomo__: you now how you can work around it if needed. | |
| [19:04] <slomo__> Nafallo: yes, how? :) | |
| [19:04] <Nafallo> slomo__: you are not the slomo I know :-P | |
| [19:05] <slomo__> i don't want to think about it or look into code or use s/feisty/hardy/ on sources.list and call apt-get dist-upgrade ;) | |
| [19:31] <Nafallo> slomo__: hehe. the last one was the solution indeed ;-) | |