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| [01:37] <asac> bdmurray: whats the state of bughelper? | |
| [01:39] <bdmurray> asac: that sounds like a loaded question. it's pretty good barring one launchpad issue | |
| [01:40] <asac> ok | |
| [01:40] <asac> for me it crashes on firefox-3.0 | |
| [01:40] <asac> vino + xulrunner-1.9 work | |
| [01:40] <asac> even bugnumbers -p firefox-3.0 crashes | |
| [01:40] <bdmurray> Okay, I'll look into it | |
| [01:41] <bdmurray> this is from Hardy? | |
| [01:41] <asac> sorry, didn't try xulrunner-1.9 before and thought it was crashing on everything. | |
| [01:41] <asac> because i couldn't imagine why bugnumbers might fail | |
| [01:41] <asac> bdmurray: yes, hardy almost latest | |
| [01:41] <bdmurray> try --parsemode=html | |
| [01:41] <asac> a day old or so | |
| [01:41] <asac> bdmurray: can i use that option everywhere? | |
| [01:41] <asac> e.g. bugnumbers? or just bughelper iteself? | |
| [01:42] <bdmurray> asac: yes, everywhere | |
| [01:42] * asac tries bugnumbers | |
| [01:42] <bdmurray> there is a problem with the attachments listings in Launchpad or p-l-b's parsing of them | |
| [01:43] <asac> bdmurray: ok so i probably cannot run a full query? | |
| [01:44] <asac> i initially ended up in this because i wanted to search attachments ... like | |
| [01:44] <bdmurray> asac: if you use --parsemode=text and a bug has a bad attachment it'll error out | |
| [01:44] <asac> bughelper -T firefox-3.0 "nsNavHistoryResult" "Navigation Crash" -p firefox-3.0 | |
| [01:44] <asac> what are bad attachments? and why does it matter for bugnumbers? | |
| [01:44] <bdmurray> badly formatted that is | |
| [01:44] <asac> do we know what that means? or when that happens? | |
| [01:45] <bdmurray> yes, let me find the launchpad bug | |
| [01:45] <asac> no need to | |
| [01:45] <asac> i just need to workaround right now. | |
| [01:45] <bdmurray> right and --parsemode=html should work around it | |
| [01:46] <asac> ok let me run that query with html | |
| [01:46] <asac> :) | |
| [01:46] <asac> lets see how far we get | |
| [01:46] * asac wonders how long it will take :/ | |
| [01:47] <bdmurray> it worked for me | |
| [01:47] <bdmurray> well, or bugnumbers did | |
| [01:57] <asac> bdmurray: how many hours do you think that query might take? | |
| [01:57] <asac> with nothing cached | |
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| [04:05] <alex_mayorga> bdmurray, ping :) | |
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| [11:14] <Iulian> Hey | |
| [12:34] <ubuntudemon> Hey. Can I do anything to provide more information to this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/220640 | |
| [12:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [12:49] <marnanel> ubuntudemon: I don't think so, but it's possible/probable that none of the people dealing with it are on this channel at present (or awake) | |
| [12:49] <marnanel> ubuntudemon: But I wish all my bug reporters were as thorough as that! | |
| [12:49] <james_w> hi marnanel | |
| [12:50] <james_w> ubuntudemon: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1507 looks similar as well, although the initial reporter had a different key mgmt | |
| [12:50] <ubotu> www.intellinuxwireless.org bug 1507 in WPA & WPA2 "iwlwifi-1.1.19 doesn't associate to WPA-EAP protected network" [Major,Assigned] | |
| [12:54] <james_w> ubuntudemon: I also think there is enough information there that you could file a report upstream. | |
| [12:55] <marnanel> james_w: hi | |
| [13:02] <ubuntudemon> james_w : thanks I will first read through 1507 and 1522 right now. After that I will report a bug upstream if necessary | |
| [13:03] <james_w> ubuntudemon: thanks, that would be very useful. | |
| [13:04] <ubuntudemon> you are welcome. I'm not only helping Ubuntu but also helping myself by doing this. I would like to upgrade to hardy but I can't do that if I can't get on my university network. | |
| [13:11] <ubuntudemon> james_w Is it possible to download newer iwl3945 driver+mac80211+microcode image from intellinuxwireless.org and use it from the live cd ? | |
| [13:12] <james_w> ubuntudemon: probably | |
| [13:12] <james_w> you shouldn't need to reboot to do that, so you should be ok | |
| [13:12] <james_w> as long as you have internet access to get the stuff :-) | |
| [13:17] <ubuntudemon> james_w I have a usb stick here | |
| [13:17] <james_w> ah, that's much easier | |
| [13:17] <ubuntudemon> It's probably bit a microcode error because I followed this and I'm not seeing that kind of errors : http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=fw_error_report | |
| [13:23] <ubuntudemon> james_w I should probably follow : http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Download right ? | |
| [13:25] <james_w> I don't know, sorry. | |
| [13:33] <ubuntudemon> james_w I'm first going to report a new upstream bug because I get different error messages | |
| [13:33] <james_w> sounds sensible | |
| [13:36] <ubuntudemon> james_w getting someone to confirm the bug might be hard | |
| [13:36] <james_w> yup, but there's plenty of information, so a developer may see what's wrong, or be able to ask you to do tests to narrow it down. | |
| [13:58] <ubuntudemon> james_w I submitted the bug | |
| [13:58] <ubuntudemon> james_w : http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1658 | |
| [13:58] <ubotu> www.intellinuxwireless.org bug 1658 in WEP "[Ubuntu Hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. Worked in Ubuntu Gutsy with ipw3945+wpasupplicant." [Major,New] | |
| [14:00] <james_w> cool, thanks | |
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| [14:11] <asac> ubuntudemon: try the driver from linux-backport-modules | |
| [14:12] <asac> it has the scan_capa patch which should fix corner cases for hidden networks | |
| [14:13] <asac> maybe LEAP as well | |
| [14:13] <asac> i don't bother to try upstream driver | |
| [14:13] <asac> s/don't/won't/ | |
| [14:13] <asac> james_w: ^^ | |
| [14:14] <ubuntudemon> asac : I installed linux-backport-modules-hardy-generic and now I also have led_class as a module but it didn't work | |
| [14:14] <ubuntudemon> asac : thanks for the suggestion | |
| [14:15] <asac> ubuntudemon: if you still have issues, submit the full /var/log/syslog after reproducing the connect failure as a bug against network manager | |
| [14:15] <asac> and point me to the bug | |
| [14:15] <ubuntudemon> asac here's the bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/220640 | |
| [14:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [14:15] <asac> but most likely iwlXXXX driver is still to unmature for LEAP, which is afaict a really thing anyway | |
| [14:16] <ubuntudemon> asac : I have never been able to connect to my university network using network manager and I don't know how to enter the same settings | |
| [14:17] <asac> ok. then its not a network-manager related issue. | |
| [14:17] <ubuntudemon> asac : indeed. I have been using wpasupplicant since edgy with ipw3945 | |
| [14:17] <asac> sorry ... misread that. usually you can get drivers to work manually as manual configuration can deal with crappy drivers, while network-manager cannot | |
| [14:18] <ubuntudemon> asac : I don't understand why they didn't think of a solution to be able to still use ipw3945 | |
| [14:18] <ubuntudemon> (my university network settings are also a bit strange) | |
| [14:19] <asac> ubuntudemon: for ipw3945 you need the regulatory daemon running as well | |
| [14:19] <asac> do you have that? | |
| [14:19] <ubuntudemon> asac : I'm running the livecd and I'm unable to modprobe ipw3945 (FATAL: Module ipw3945 not found) | |
| [14:19] <asac> ok | |
| [14:21] <ubuntudemon> asac : is there anything else I can do to provide more useful information ? Is there any way to use ipw3945 with hardy's kernel ? | |
| [14:22] <asac> ubuntudemon: most likely not on the live cd | |
| [14:23] <asac> unfortunate that noone raised this earlier in development cycle | |
| [14:26] <ubuntudemon> asac yeah really unfortunate. | |
| [14:28] <asac> i have no access to LEAP network. otherwise i would have probably noticed. afaik LEAP is somewhat crappy and outdated. | |
| [14:28] <asac> (not saying that it can be ignored) | |
| [14:29] <ubuntudemon> asac : I'm also gettign some help in #ubuntu-kernel | |
| [14:30] <ubuntudemon> asac : my university's network settings are crappy IMHO | |
| [14:32] <asac> ok hope that -kernel can figure something. only thing you could try IMO is to upgrade to latest wpasupplicant (0.6.x) ... maybe that behaves better | |
| [14:35] <calc> iirc LEAP was a workaround for WEP being crap | |
| [14:35] <calc> both of which are not nearly as good as WPA/WPA2 | |
| [14:51] <darius_> I was wondering why LEAP wasn't working ... thought it was just me :) | |
| [15:29] <ubuntudemon> darius_ so you have the same problem ? Do you have the same network settings as I do ? You should come to #ubuntu-kernel | |
| [16:07] <ubuntudemon> If there is nothing else I can try I'm going home and I'll try any new suggestions tomorrow. Thanks everybody for your help. | |
| [16:07] <ubuntudemon> Bye all! | |
| [16:16] <Kirrus> hello, can someone take a look at bug #110387.. its got a patch, but has missed the final freeze deadline, as I didn't pick it up quickly enough (sorry!) .. I think its a candidate for SRU, but I'm not sure of the process the patch needs to go through *before* the release... | |
| [16:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110387 in insight "Insight was accidentally built wrong" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110387 | |
| [16:17] <crimsun> at this point, we may as well treat it as part of the SRU process | |
| [16:17] <Kirrus> is there a quick way to tell if a package is in universe or main? | |
| [16:17] <Kirrus> I'll get started on an SRU.. | |
| [16:19] <crimsun> Kirrus: sure, via the Launchpad +source page, or apt-cache showsrc, or rmadison -uubuntu | |
| [16:19] <crimsun> oh, do you mean "binary package"? | |
| [16:20] <crimsun> if so, you do have to jump through some hoops | |
| [16:20] <Kirrus> well, I know that the package name is "insight" so I guess I can find it from the lp page.. unless.. guess... | |
| [16:20] <Kirrus> !info insight | |
| [16:20] <ubotu> insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 1649 kB, installed size 4884 kB | |
| [16:20] <crimsun> there. | |
| [16:21] <Kirrus> universe.. cool that works :) | |
| [16:21] <crimsun> should be same for hardy, but you can check | |
| [16:21] <Kirrus> thanks crimsun | |
| [16:21] <crimsun> !info insight hardy | |
| [16:21] <ubotu> insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.7.1.dfsg.1-7 (hardy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 5000 kB | |
| [16:21] <crimsun> Kirrus: ultimately it's where the source package is, however, which is why I mentioned those options above | |
| [16:22] <Kirrus> I'll remember them.. thanks :) | |
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| [16:31] <bdmurray> greg-g: morningish | |
| [16:37] <bdmurray> crimsun: It seems like bug 219081 should just be an easy config change, do you know what that would be? | |
| [16:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219081 in linux "no 5.1 sound on sound blaster live" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219081 | |
| [16:43] <crimsun> bdmurray: needs more info, namely, which app(s)? | |
| [16:43] <greg-g> bdmurray: late night, so yeah, morning :) | |
| [16:44] <crimsun> bdmurray: a quick test point would be `aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' | |
| [16:44] <bdmurray> crimsun: I have the same hardware and problem so I'll give that a try | |
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| [16:47] <bdmurray> crimsun: only the KDE_startup.wave came out of all 4 speakers | |
| [16:48] <crimsun> bdmurray: "all 4"? I thought you wanted 6... | |
| [16:49] <bdmurray> crimsun: I actually have 4.1 but the "rear" 2 get no sound | |
| [16:49] <crimsun> bdmurray: so only the front speakers? | |
| [16:50] <bdmurray> crimsun: right sound from front only with startup.wav but front and rear with KDE-startup.wav | |
| [16:51] <crimsun> bdmurray: amixer set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' unmute ; amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' 88% | |
| [16:51] <crimsun> bdmurray: then that behaviour is intentional for startup.wav. | |
| [16:56] <bdmurray> crimsun: Unable to find simple control 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo',0 | |
| [16:56] <crimsun> bdmurray: I'm using his amixer output | |
| [16:56] <crimsun> bdmurray: I'd need your amixer output to see your controls | |
| [17:01] <bdmurray> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/f4115ff4c | |
| [17:05] <crimsun> bdmurray: amixer -c0 set 'Wave Center' 80%; amixer -c0 set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' unmute | |
| [17:06] <afflux> morning | |
| [17:07] <afflux> ideas on bug 220645? | |
| [17:09] <crimsun> ... | |
| [17:09] <crimsun> and there's the culprit: sysv-rc 2.86.ds1-54 | |
| [17:09] <crimsun> (from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13825801/Dependencies.txt) | |
| [17:10] <crimsun> now, why is that person running sysv-rc from Debian? | |
| [17:10] <afflux> that is indeed a good question | |
| [17:11] <crimsun> note that our simplistic solutions of simply requiring sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2) fails horribly | |
| [17:11] <crimsun> solution* | |
| [17:11] <crimsun> Debian does not carry Scott's multiuser change | |
| [17:11] <afflux> crimsun: probably because of the last (now commented) line in sources.list: # deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib | |
| [17:11] <crimsun> perhaps this can be enforced in upgrade-manager? | |
| [17:12] <afflux> not sure how that should be handled. should I just answer with "you're using unsupported debian packages, closing"? | |
| [17:12] <crimsun> e.g., we need sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2), sysv-rc (<< 2.86.ds1-15) | |
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| [18:06] <jarlath> I have a bug report with the status New. I now have all the log files needed and steps to repeat etc. But the only other statuses I can see applicable to my triaging are Incomplete, Invalid or confirmed. Should I choose confirmed or is there a way to set it as Triaged? | |
| [18:07] <bdmurray> jarlath: Triaged is available to ubuntu-bugcontrol members only | |
| [18:08] <jarlath> Ah, okay. So will I leave it as new? | |
| [18:08] <james_w> jarlath: is it anything that we could confirm, or is it specific hardware or anything? | |
| [18:08] <bddebian> Boo | |
| [18:09] <jarlath> james_w: yes, it's hardware specific. | |
| [18:09] <james_w> hi bddebian | |
| [18:09] <jarlath> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/219556 | |
| [18:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219556 in linux "Speakers do not mute on headphones (Fujitsu-Siemens ESPRIMO M9400)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [18:09] <bddebian> Hello james_w | |
| [18:11] <james_w> jarlath: ah, you're triaging it, I thought you reported it. | |
| [18:11] <jarlath> james_w: Oh, yes. I should have made that clearer :) | |
| [18:16] <crimsun> jarlath: set it to Needs Info, and add me as a subscriber. I'll triage it further this afternoon. | |
| [18:17] <crimsun> err, I guess Incomplete instead of Needs Info. | |
| [18:18] <jarlath> crimsun: Okay, will do. I'll keep an eye to see what kind of info is missing. Thanks for your help. | |
| [18:18] <crimsun> basically he needs a new stanza for his model; there's nothing in alc262_presets[] to handle his config. | |
| [18:19] <jarlath> Okay. That sounds promising! | |
| [18:43] <afflux> crimsun: what should I do with the update-rc.d bug (sysv-rc from debian)? ie. what status, package etc. | |
| [18:50] <bdmurray> afflux: I'd think update-manager, confirmed, low based off what I read of the scrollback | |
| [18:51] <afflux> bdmurray: okay thanks | |
| [18:51] <bdmurray> I gathered this is something update-manager might be smarter about | |
| [18:52] * mvo appears on the scene | |
| [18:53] <bdmurray> mvo: somebody had sysv-rc(?) from debian installed and performed a release upgrade | |
| [18:53] <mvo> hm, right | |
| [18:53] <mvo> suprisingly little failures :P | |
| [18:54] * mvo just looked at the bugreport | |
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