| === heno is now known as heno_away | |
| [01:05] <jdong> hmm bug 86457 seems to have creeped back on Hardy :( | |
| [01:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 86457 in linux-source-2.6.20 "(maemo-on-ubuntu) Scratchbox does not work with latest Feisty kernel image" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86457 | |
| === lamont` is now known as lamont | |
| [01:29] <crimsun> amitk: has there been movement on the "offer a 'reset' button via gnome-media/mixer_applet2 for sound issues" idea tossed about some months ago? | |
| [02:11] <blueyed> How are hardware specific kernel modules meant to be loaded? There's a autoload block in acpid's init script, but it does not match e.g. drivers/misc/fujitsu-laptop.ko. | |
| [02:22] <blueyed> Would be nice, if you could provide a hint at bug 196683. Thanks. | |
| [02:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196683 in linux "fujitsu_laptop not loaded automatically on lifebook p7010" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196683 | |
| === thegodfather is now known as fabbione | |
| === jayc__ is now known as jayc_ | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [07:07] <amitk> crimsun: it will be considered for intrepid, nothing for hardy | |
| [08:15] <kraut> moin | |
| === heno_away is now known as heno | |
| [09:53] <tseliot> a quick question: which one of these kernels is realtime and/or xen-enabled? 'server', 'openvz', 'virtual' | |
| [10:11] <abogani> tseliot: 'rt', 'xen' | |
| [10:13] <tseliot> abogani: I would like to know more about the kernel flavours which I mentioned above | |
| [10:14] <alex_joni> might be OT: is there going to be an upgrade path from dapper to hardy? | |
| [10:14] <tseliot> abogani: since the nvidia driver and/or the fglrx driver can have problems with rt and xen-enabled kernels | |
| [10:14] <abogani> tseliot: not with -rt. | |
| [10:15] <alex_joni> abogani: maybe the other way around | |
| [10:15] <alex_joni> abogani: having nvidia drivers interfering with -rt | |
| [10:16] <tseliot> abogani: nvidia works well with -rt here however I'm not sure about fglrx | |
| [10:17] <abogani> tseliot: fglrx should be work too but performance aren't good as like nvidia one. | |
| === jayc__ is now known as jayc_ | |
| [13:20] <pepie34> kool madwifi svn trunk seems to work again with -16 kernel build | |
| [13:21] <pepie34> (this was not the case with -14 et -15) | |
| [13:21] <pepie34> thanks for having corrected this regression | |
| === mdz_ is now known as mdz | |
| [15:47] <bigcx2> hey all | |
| [15:47] <bigcx2> i don't know if this is the appropriate outlet for this | |
| [15:48] <bigcx2> but i read the livecd customization guide on the wiki | |
| [15:48] <bigcx2> and it says to replace the kernel you just have to build a custom .deb and link it properly | |
| [15:49] <bigcx2> it seems like there has to be more to it than this | |
| [15:49] <bigcx2> do you have to mess with the udebs or anything like that? | |
| [15:56] <BenC> bigcx2: udeb's are for alternate cd install, not livecd | |
| [15:56] <BenC> bigcx2: so no | |
| [15:56] <bigcx2> ok | |
| [15:57] <bigcx2> well i'm trying this in feisty...and i've compiled a stock 2.6.20 kernel with the normal ubuntu live cd config...and i can get it to boot, etc. but it hangs on mounting the root filesystem | |
| [15:58] <bigcx2> and then it drops me into a busybox shell | |
| [15:59] <bigcx2> i have no clue why it would be failing there | |
| [16:00] <bigcx2> i figured i was missing some steps after i read this: | |
| [16:00] <bigcx2> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/01147559232 | |
| [16:00] <bigcx2> mentions udebs and such | |
| [16:10] <abogani> bigcx2: I suppose that you should rebuild lum also | |
| [16:11] <abogani> BenC: Good Morning, Sir. | |
| [16:11] <bigcx2> lum? | |
| [16:12] <amitk> bigcx2: did you build a initramfs? | |
| [16:12] <bigcx2> yes | |
| [16:13] <amitk> lum=linux-ubuntu-modules - it contains modules that are not yet part of the kernel | |
| [16:13] <bigcx2> hm | |
| [16:13] <amitk> bigcx2: what error did you get? any missing modules? | |
| [16:14] <BenC> abogani: good morning | |
| [16:15] <bigcx2> i get up to the splash screen where it says: loading essential drivers [ok] | |
| [16:15] <bigcx2> running init-premount [ok] | |
| [16:15] <bigcx2> mounting root filesystem | |
| [16:16] <bigcx2> and then it waits for about 10 seconds before dropping the splash screen and spawning a busybox shell | |
| [16:17] <bigcx2> i don't understand though -- i'm using squashfs and ext3 and i have both of those compiled in properly | |
| [16:17] <amitk> bigcx2: might be better if you remove the "quiet splash" from the kernel command-line to follow what is happening. | |
| [16:17] <amitk> bigcx2: squashfs is in LUM | |
| [16:19] <abogani> bigcx2: AFAIK Squashfs and unionfs modules are live and kicking in LUM but are required to be in initramfs file for boot livecd. | |
| [16:19] <bigcx2> i compiled it with all those ubuntu extras in | |
| [16:20] <bigcx2> hm | |
| [16:20] <bigcx2> well | |
| [16:20] <bigcx2> here's my steps | |
| [16:20] <bigcx2> compile default config (no mods) 2.6.20 | |
| [16:21] <amitk> bigcx2: did you make sure that the initramfs contains squashfs? 'update-initramfs -u -v' will tell you | |
| [16:21] <bigcx2> make-kpkg | |
| [16:21] <bigcx2> amitk: no, thanks for the tip | |
| [16:22] <bigcx2> brb | |
| [16:27] <bigcx2> hey! looks like it's not in initrd | |
| [16:29] <bigcx2> does that mean i'm missing a make-kpkg option or such? | |
| [16:31] <amitk> bigcx2: I don't know how to work with make-kpkg, sorry. I use Ubuntu's built-in build system | |
| [16:38] <johanbr> bigcx2: make-kpkg is not a supported method of building Ubuntu kernels anymore. Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile | |
| [16:39] <johanbr> Should be okay for 2.6.20, though. | |
| [16:40] <bigcx2> mk | |
| [16:47] <bigcx2> hey all | |
| [16:47] <bigcx2> thanks for your help | |
| === king__ is now known as cking_pc | |
| [18:24] <alex_joni> hmm, that is an old page.. should have said it's for breezy (it's outdated even for dapper..), but now bigcx2 is gone | |
| [18:47] <rtg> smb_tp: your patch in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/212960/comments/22 is definitely the right thing to do, regardless if it fixes the cx88 bug. Please commit that to the LUM repo. | |
| [18:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 212960 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Hardy: cx88 NULL pointer dereference" [High,In progress] | |
| [18:48] <smb_tp> rtg: Ok, I will commit that ASAP | |
| [18:48] <rtg> BenC: we need a LUM upload today, before the RC is built. | |
| [18:50] <rtg> BenC: perhaps that was more declarative then I intended. I think we need a LUM upload. What do you think? | |
| [18:51] <smb_tp> rtg: He might be recovering from his trip | |
| [18:53] <rtg> smb_tp: ok, I'll check back later today. If it hasn't been done, then I'll package it up sometime late this afternoon. | |
| [18:54] <smb_tp> rtg: Ok, I make sure to commit the change to the makefiles | |
| === jayc__ is now known as jayc_ | |
| [19:46] <amitk> jayc_: hi, good morning | |
| [19:46] <amitk> inuka_desk: good morning | |
| [19:49] <jayc_> amitk:Hi | |
| [19:51] <amitk> jayc_: do you have any thing else coming in the next 7-10 days? | |
| [19:51] <amitk> and is inuka around? | |
| [19:55] <jayc_> For kernel I will have to check with China team if they are planning to make any changes | |
| [19:56] <jayc_> For now there is just one config change USB_PERSIST which is not yet in out BUILD | |
| [19:56] <jayc_> I will check with Alek (PRC) and let you know if he is planning to make any change | |
| [19:57] <jayc_> let me check if Inuka is around, it's lunch time here though | |
| [19:57] <inuka_desk> amitk, morning.. sorry wasnt paying attention to irc. | |
| [19:58] <inuka_desk> amitk, pushed libdrm... will push x driver. | |
| [19:58] <amitk> jayc_: we already have PERSIST enabled. I am pushing a patch for it later today/tomorrow that will allow classmate to work too. | |
| [19:58] <jayc_> cool | |
| [19:59] <amitk> inuka_desk: great... i'll push LUM to PPA if we don't upload a new one today. | |
| [19:59] <mo__> amitk, ok. any ideas which logs to consider for debugging? maybe an dmesg output after skipping the "loading device drivers" with Ctrl+alt+del !? | |
| [20:01] <amitk> mo__: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic' | |
| [20:01] <mo__> amitk, Installiert:2.6.24-16.22 | |
| [20:02] <amitk> jayc_: inuka_desk: anything you guys want in hardy needs to come within this week. After that it will only go to PPA | |
| [20:02] <jayc_> amitk: got it :-) | |
| [20:03] <amitk> mo__: very strange indeed. smb_tp: mo__ here still sees symptoms similar to those caused by your cx88 patch... | |
| [20:05] <amitk> mo__: Could you go to /lib/modules/<kernel ver>/kernel/sound and move soundcore.ko out of the way. See if that fixes your 'hang' | |
| [20:06] <mo__> amitk, brb | |
| [20:06] <amitk> k | |
| [20:07] <smb_tp> amitk: my cx88 patch? you mean the one with the mutex problem? was not from me. but what prooblem lockup during boot? | |
| [20:12] <amitk> smb_tp: right.. the same. I meant the one you are looking at.. | |
| [20:14] <smb_tp> amitk: right. though -16.22 should be without that. Could also be some other hardware. Do we have output without splash and quiet? | |
| [20:15] <alex_joni> alt-f1/f2 works early in the boot | |
| [20:17] <amitk> smb_tp: he's gone for a reboot after removing soundcore.ko. That'll confirm if it is the same problem or not.. | |
| [20:18] <smb_tp> amitk: Ok, lets see what happens | |
| [20:23] <mo__> amitk, it fixed the hang | |
| [20:28] <amitk> mo__: you can restore soundcore.ko now. Are you sure that you see the hang with -16 though? | |
| [20:31] <mo__> amitk, yes it occured with -14 and -16, an now i've booted with -16 and it did'nt hang ... but without sound now ... of course! | |
| [20:36] <smb_tp> Hm, sorry I am not completely up to date. So, it hangs with kernels between -14 and -16 and is related somehow to sound. Now it would be nice to have vm debugging... what sound hardware is there? something beside one soundcard? | |
| [20:53] <mo__> amitk, sorry i've been occupied | |
| [20:53] <mo__> amitk, any further ideas ? | |
| [20:56] <amitk> mo__: smb_tp's questions ^^^ | |
| [20:57] <mo__> amitk, ok then, thank you so far | |
| [20:57] <mo__> smb_tp, i still got the soundcore.ko problem with the new linux-ubuntu-modules | |
| [21:00] <smb_tp> mo__: Sure, I did catch that from your discussion with amit | |
| [21:00] <mo__> smb_tp, ok sorry, i didn't see that. Is there any output that might help? | |
| [21:03] <smb_tp> mo__: Yes, generally what audio hw is there. More than one card/device? If booted without "quiet" and "splash" is the anything sticking out when the system is hanging | |
| [21:03] <mo__> smb_tp, i'v got an pci soundcard (audigy 2) and an onboard via rs780 sound chipset | |
| [21:05] <mo__> smb_tp, i'll try to disable (though i thought it is allready) the onboard card in the bios and report if there is anything during boot without quiet, brb | |
| [21:06] <smb_tp> mo__: This or without those both options, maybe the last printed message does give some hint about which card is currently set up | |
| === jayc_ is now known as jayc | |
| [21:10] <alex_joni> is it "normal" to have tons of "udevd" messages flashing by during boot? | |
| [21:10] <alex_joni> (they don't show up in dmesg or syslog) | |
| [21:21] <mo__> smb_tp, so: it does hang if the onboard soundcard is DISABLED in bios. It hangs with "loading hardware drivers..." | |
| [21:24] <smb_tp> mo__: This generic message comes even if you remove quiet and splash from the grub options line? | |
| [21:27] <smb_tp> mo__: There actually two quiets: one single word somewhere and one on a line which specifies the initrd, kernel etc. | |
| [21:29] <mo__> smb_tp, yes yes i know, got some problems with the power supply atm | |
| [21:30] <smb_tp> mo__: Sure, take your time | |
| [21:36] <mo__> smb_tp, i got some weird output: lot's of "call trace" with snd_pcm registers | |
| [21:37] <smb_tp> mo__: That would be interesting. Can you save that and send it to me? Or if a bug report is open attach that? | |
| [21:57] <mo__> smb_tp, can i mail a dmesg output to you? | |
| [21:57] <smb_tp> mo__: Sure stefan.bader@canonical.com | |
| [21:58] <mo__> german? | |
| [21:58] <smb_tp> mo__: JanC | |
| [21:59] <smb_tp> mo__: Oops command completion | |
| [21:59] <mo__> smb_tp, no sorry i just thought stefan bader might me a german name | |
| [21:59] <smb_tp> mo__: Ist es auch :) | |
| [21:59] <mo__> smb_tp, achso .. ja | |
| [22:10] <mo__> smb_tp, so hab dmesg lspci uname und asound outputs angehängt | |
| [22:11] <smb_tp> mo__: Ok, danke. Lets see... | |
| [22:11] <mo__> smb_tp, ich hab zu danken :-) | |
| [22:14] <mo__> smb_tp, er hängt bei 37.813198 , vor dem loop: module loaded | |
| [22:18] <smb_tp> mo__: Just so that others (as amit) can understand too: there have been kernel oops involved. And the saa7134 driver. Which is one of those I suspect to have been compiled without the right headers | |
| [22:19] <mo__> smb_tp, ok. i do understand exactly nothing at that level :) | |
| [22:19] <smb_tp> mo__: Could you try the lum version in my ppa? https://launchpad.net/~stefan-bader-canonical/+archive | |
| [22:22] <mo__> smb_tp, sure. just a moment.. | |
| [22:32] <amitk> smb_tp: interesting... | |
| [22:33] <smb_tp> amitk: what? | |
| [22:33] <amitk> smb_tp: regarding the saa7134 drivers... | |
| [22:34] <amitk> now I am down to a few more git bisects to find our problem child patch that kills classmate suspend :) | |
| [22:36] <mo__> smb_tp, with ur modules, it now really freezes :) | |
| [22:37] <smb_tp> mo__: Any dying messages? | |
| [22:38] <mo__> smb_tp, yeah just the same ones, at [end trace ....] | |
| [22:38] <mo__> smb_tp, i did not really freeze, its just the same error | |
| [22:40] <smb_tp> mo__: Hm, ok. Pity, it just sounds like a good trail. Seems I have to think a bit more. | |
| [22:40] <mo__> apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic says "Installiert: 2.6.24-16.23ubuntu1" ... so i did correctly instal ur version !? | |
| [22:41] <smb_tp> mo__: Sound like it did. Well, I am out of here for a while... | |
| === smb_tp is now known as smb_away | |
| [22:42] <mo__> smb_tp, ok. strange :-) thank u bb | |
| [22:43] <mo__> if i should test smth, mo@uberhost.de | |
| [23:29] <greearb> Hello. Anyone know how to create udebs for a standard kernel.org kernel using Ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04-beta? | |
| [23:29] <greearb> I'm trying to remaster a live cd with a modified kernel and having no luck figuring out the udebs portion... | |
| [23:30] <alex_joni> greearb: you working on an alternate install cd? | |
| [23:30] <greearb> yes | |
| [23:30] <alex_joni> I have some older info.. maybe it helps: http://dsplabs.cs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/01147559232 | |
| [23:31] <alex_joni> (I used that back on breezy, when the default cd had udebs too..) | |
| [23:31] <greearb> heh, found that already..but it seems linux-kernel-di-* doesn't work on the latest ubuntu | |
| [23:32] <greearb> someone said the udebs were built automatically when the kernel is built..but I surely can't figure out how and can't find them anywhere when I build with make-kpkg | |
| [23:33] <alex_joni> well.. that depends how you build it | |
| [23:33] <alex_joni> if you build it with make-kpkg, you won't get udebs | |
| [23:33] <alex_joni> if you build it using debian/rules then you can get them | |
| [23:33] <greearb> ahhh, how to build it then? | |
| [23:34] <alex_joni> but for that you need to start with the ubuntu kernel source | |
| [23:34] <alex_joni> apt-get source linux-source-.. | |
| [23:34] <greearb> ok, I can try that | |
| [23:34] <alex_joni> (or grab it from git..) | |
| [23:34] <alex_joni> greearb: it's past 1am here.. I won't be around long.. | |
| [23:34] <greearb> no problem | |
| [23:35] <alex_joni> good luck though ;) | |
| [23:35] <greearb> let me reboot back into 7.10, I had already backported my changes to their 2.6.22 kernel | |
| [23:35] <alex_joni> I used a custom flavour for the stuff I did | |
| [23:35] <greearb> you wrote that blog? | |
| [23:35] <alex_joni> that way I don't collide with ubuntu version numbers & all | |
| [23:35] <alex_joni> greearb: yeah, a while ago :) | |
| [23:36] <greearb> ok, ignore my email if it ever gets to you..I tried to bother you earlier today :) | |
| [23:36] <alex_joni> ok, I will | |
| [23:36] <alex_joni> seems it was in 2006 when I wrote that | |
| [23:37] <greearb> do you happen to know if I need any arguments to the debian/rules command ? | |
| [23:38] <alex_joni> yeah, you surely do | |
| [23:39] <alex_joni> I used: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=2 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-rtai | |
| [23:40] <alex_joni> (because I only wanted the custom flavour I added, called rtai, and only the binary package) | |
| [23:40] <alex_joni> but you probably want: ... debian/rules binary-udebs | |
| [23:41] <greearb> no rule to make that target | |
| [23:41] <alex_joni> which one? | |
| [23:42] <greearb> binary-udebs or binary-udeb | |
| [23:43] <alex_joni> greearb: look in debian/rules, over here it includes debian/rules.d/5-udebs.mk | |
| [23:43] <alex_joni> you maybe want to create debian/control first.. | |
| [23:44] <greearb> what version of kernel source? there is a debian/ruleset/ dir in my .22 kernel | |
| [23:44] <alex_joni> hmm.. I'm looking at .24 (from hardy) | |
| [23:45] <greearb> ok, I can forward port if needed, let me reboot back into hardy | |
| [23:46] <greearb> it's surely easier to port kernel code than figure out how to build live-cds :) | |
| [23:56] <greearb> hrm, nothing at all in the debian/ dir after 'apt-get install linux-source' and tar -xvjf ... | |
| [23:59] <alex_joni> I said apt-get source linux-source | |
| [23:59] <alex_joni> not apt-get install linux-source | |