2008/04/08/#ubuntu-ops.txt

=== elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu
[01:05] <mneptok> so ... who here is going to Prague?
[01:06] <Pici> not me?
[01:06] <no0tic> me neither
[01:10] <mneptok> :/
[01:10] <Pici> are you?
[01:11] <mneptok> yup
[01:11] <LjL> then i'm not
[01:23] <Pici> When is Edgy's EOL date?
[01:24] <nalioth> Pici: it is long past
[01:25] <nalioth> er, october 2008
[01:25]  * nalioth must remember to use the proper settings on his time machine
[01:25] <Pici> Are you sure that isnt feisty's?
[01:25] <Pici> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[01:25] <nalioth> actually, it expires this month  ( whacks time machine )
[01:25] <Pici> I'm just wondering when this month...
[01:26] <nalioth> Pici: when hardy releases?
[01:26] <Pici> nalioth: Sounds good to me.
[01:44] <AndrewB> hmmm 01:44 < *x0x> �HeLLo� �EvErY� �OnE� �� x0x �� �Iz� �BaCk� �To� �RoCk� �YouR� �HeArT� �AgAiN�   ABC Script
[01:48] <LjL> told to disable
[01:49] <jdong> haha, rule 1 of spambots: Find the right whitspace character for the intended language?
[01:49] <LjL> jdong: i think that attempts to be colors... or bold, or something
[01:49] <jdong> fascinating.
[02:01] <mneptok> man, you guys need to learn to Google :)
[02:01] <mneptok> Edgy's EOL date is April 25
[02:01] <mneptok> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu610end-of-life
[02:01] <LjL> !eol
[02:01] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[02:01] <LjL> why i google when i has bot
[02:02] <mneptok> well, it *is* somewhat less masturbatory
[02:02] <mneptok> :)
[02:02] <mneptok> you know, "the masturbatory" should really be the name of a room in large houses.
[02:04] <mneptok> "Colonet Mustard, with the candlestick, in the masturbatory."
[02:04] <jdong> mneptok: does that room have a large HDTV?
[02:07] <mneptok> "heated duck that vibrates?" ask Jono.
[02:07] <DanaG> That was odd: I pasted the [0001] box from here, and got banned from #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <DanaG> http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
[02:08] <DanaG> It said I did "CTCP Version"
[02:08] <mneptok> and you did
[02:08] <mneptok> 21:06 DanaG [n=dana@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] requested unknown CTCP AAAuthenticAMD from #ubuntu+1: 
[02:08] <DanaG> Not deliberately.
[02:08] <DanaG> Apparently the ASCII 0001 is something odd.
[02:08] <DanaG> s/ascii/unicode/
[02:09] <LjL> ASCII 1 is what marks a CTCP
[02:09] <DanaG> Aah.
[02:09] <mneptok> DanaG: pasting anything at all on #8ubuntu* channels is prolly not a great idea
[02:09] <DanaG> aah.
[03:16] <Hobbsee> nickrud: removed, not kicked.
[03:17] <nickrud> Hobbsee ? you lost me
[03:17] <Hobbsee> nickrud: you said i kicked her earlier
[03:18] <nickrud> Hobbsee ah, I was pretty loose with the terminology
[03:18] <Hobbsee> nickrud: still, i wish she'd stop spreading her propaganda about group think in here.  The entire point of being in a group is acting cohesively in a group, once you have a quorum from the people.
[03:18] <nickrud> Hobbsee anything that doesn't conform to her group is group-think ;)
[03:19] <Hobbsee> nickrud: tasty.
[03:19] <nickrud> had a discussion with her about it a couple days ago, her link here wasn't unexpected
[03:20] <Hobbsee> hmmm, damn, i don't log #freenode
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: feel free to remove her for spam as soon as it appears she's trying to just dumb cruft into the log (the same log she hates, but hey)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: perhaps.  I prefer another option.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: gotta do the finishing touches on it first, though
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> Well, so do I.  Not sure if it's the same "other", but whatever.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> see /query
[04:23] <Linux_OG> How long until my ban wears off?
[04:23] <Seeker`> Linux_OG: Who banned you?
[04:24] <Linux_OG> Ljl
[04:24] <Seeker`> It will probably stay until LjL decides to remove it
[04:24] <Linux_OG> No idea how long that would be?
[04:24] <Linux_OG> Is LjL on?
[04:25] <Seeker`> Depends on what you did wrong, although I believe it is 05:25am at the oment where he is, so I dont think it will be in the next couple of hours
[04:26] <Linux_OG> Oh
[04:26] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[04:26] <Linux_OG> ?
[04:27] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[04:27] <Seeker`> Linux_OG: ignore that
[04:27] <Linux_OG> Ok
[04:27] <Seeker`> Linux_OG: What was your nickname when you were banned
[04:28] <Linux_OG> I_R_LEENUCKS_MAN
[04:32] <Linux_OG> ?
[04:33] <Seeker`> it would seem that wasn't your only nickname
[04:33] <Linux_OG> ?
[04:33] <Linux_OG> What?
[04:33] <Seeker`> just looking at the ban logs
[04:34] <Linux_OG> What do you mean that wasn't my only nickname?
[04:34] <Seeker`> the log seems to show you connected as several people, having conversations with yourself
[04:35] <Linux_OG> ?
[04:35] <Linux_OG> Oh
[04:35] <Linux_OG> that was the person on my router that caused the problem
[04:35] <nalioth> your brother?
[04:35] <Linux_OG> I tried to explain to LjL but he seemed to think I was lying.
[04:35] <Linux_OG> No
[04:35] <Linux_OG> My neighbor
[04:35] <Seeker`> I can't unban you, and I believe that standard policy is that only the op that banned you can unban you, so you'll probably have to wait for him
[04:35] <Linux_OG> My friend, who knew I was on, and decided to have some fun and mess with me
[04:36] <Linux_OG> Well, LjL thinks I'm lying, so I guess I'm screwed
[04:37] <Linux_OG> Shame, #ubuntu was a helpful channel.
[04:37] <Linux_OG> Is there any other way I can log on?
[04:38] <Linux_OG> Or do I have to grovel at LjL?
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> Linux_OG: likely not so much grovel as wait.  Bans expire after varying amounts of time.
[04:38] <Linux_OG> How long?
[04:38] <Seeker`> If you try to get in while still banned, your ban will be extended
[04:38] <Linux_OG> It's been two days.
[04:38] <Linux_OG> Oh.
[04:39] <Linux_OG> SO because some guy was fooling around on my network, I'm screwed.
[04:39] <Seeker`> Not necessarily
[04:40] <Linux_OG> ?
[04:40] <Linux_OG> brb
[05:35] <Linux_OG> Is LjL here?
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=== asdf is now known as sfajosjofiasoif
=== sfajosjofiasoif is now known as Linux_OG
[05:56] <iMatter> Well im here on behalf of a friend
[05:56] <iMatter> <emma> Why am I being banned from every channel, unilaterally by someone with a history of following me around and provoking me, in every channel (even channels i've never been in) and being banned from #ubuntu-ops so that I have no ability to bring this before ops who might be more mature?
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> iMatter: bans are not a matter to be debated by third parties.  Is there an issue with you personally that we can help you with?
[05:57]  * iMatter Runs before something bad happens
[05:59] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Anyone in here?
[06:00] <nalioth> Linux_Is_For_Gan: can we help you?
[06:03] <emma> Why was I banned from every ubuntu channel that you could ban me from, including channels I have never spoken in, and channels I was not speaking in for hours?
[06:03] <emma> I would like an account for this. I would like you taken before the Ubuntu IRC Council and I would like some kind of justice.
[06:03] <emma> I think that you should be ashamed of yourself. I do not know your age but I believe you are quite young.
[06:03] <emma> This is no way for anyone to behave.
[06:03] <emma> What you have done is disgraceful and betrays your hateful obsession.
[06:04] <nalioth> emma: the council reached a decision to follow this path.
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> emma: Because after _much_ deliberation, the IRC Council concluded that your long, on-going pattern of spam, disrespect, and complete lack of any intention to follow the CoC and IRC Guidelines were not showing any signs of changing for the better.
[06:04] <emma> Even as I was speaking to Freenode staff rather than reacting to your trolling you went and did this.
[06:04] <emma> nalioth - you waited until I came in here to tell me that?
[06:04] <emma> nalioth even though I was talking to you in pm that whole time?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> emma: As such, you have become too much of a drain on the Ubuntu Community's resources, and it was decided that everyone's time could be better spent without having you around to waste it.
[06:05] <emma> and you do not play mind games?
[06:05] <nalioth> mind games waste time, emma.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> emma: Therefore, the IRC Council made the decision to keep you out of our IRC namespace until further notice, and instructed myself to implement that decision tonight, which has been done.
[06:06] <emma> You are just sick.
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Note that this decision has been long in discussion, and as such, given an extremely long-term and worsening pattern, is final.
[06:07] <emma> I want to speak to PriceChild
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> He can be reached through the IRC Council's e-mail address, which I believe you already know.
[06:07] <emma> I want to speak to him here.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> I'm afraid he isn't here right now, so you'll have to use e-mail instead (it has the advantage of working across timezones)
[06:08] <emma> how old are you tonyyarusso ?
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[06:09] <nalioth> emma: his age has nothing to do with this
[06:09] <emma> Because you are the person who told me in ubuntu offtopic that Wikipedia cannot be trusted because people as stupid as Emma can edit it
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> That is offtopic for this conversation.  Unless there is anything significantly different to address at this time, that is all that needs to be conveyed.
[06:09] <emma> YOu are the person who has followed me all around Freenode going into channels you have nothing to do with to watch me
[06:09] <emma> You have a pattern of obessive hate and trolling me 
[06:10] <emma> No this is wrong
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> Personal attacks are also offtopic for this conversation, channel, and community.
[06:10] <emma> I have not done anything to hurt your channels
[06:10] <emma> I have done nothing wrong in #ubuntu
[06:10] <emma> I have done nothign wrong in #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> That is the decision of the IRC Council, not you.
[06:10] <emma> I have done nothing wrong in #xubuntu nor even stepped foot in there
[06:10] <nalioth> emma: did you have anything to ask about the decision he told you about?
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> Do you have any _new_ information to raise?
[06:10] <emma> I have done nothing wrong in any channel at all
[06:10] <emma> I have done nothing to hurt anyone
[06:10] <emma> I have hurt no Ubuntu users
[06:11] <emma> I have broken no Ubntu channel rules
[06:11] <emma> I have done nothing to deserve this treatment
[06:11] <emma> This is happening because some very young Ubuntu ops have become obessesed in their desire to crush me
[06:11] <emma> and I guess you probably feel very proud that you have done that?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Yes, you have, and that is what the IRC Council has concluded after much careful deliberation.  There is full consensus on this.
[06:11] <emma> I will tell you this tony. I am not crushed.
[06:11] <emma> I have my dignity.
[06:11] <nalioth> emma: do you have anything regarding what you were told here?
[06:12] <emma> I have people who will read this log and will see what you and all the rest of you have done.
[06:12] <emma> Everyone will read this log and everyone will see what a railroading process this is
[06:12] <emma> With even nalioth keeping me in a pm, telling me to go to #ubuntu-ops so that I could get this treatment?
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> emma: One last time: Do you have any additional questions to raise at this time?
[06:12] <emma> So that he could send me in front of the self-same people I've been telling him about for weeks that have been harassing me?
[06:12] <nalioth> emma: this was your official notice.  did you have anything else?
[06:12] <emma> why would you do this to me nalioth?
[06:13] <thoreauputic> emma: has it occurred to you that what has happened is extremely rare and happens only when there is clear evidence?
[06:13] <emma> nalioth -- these are the self-same people who i have been telling you about for weeks have been playing games with me
[06:13] <emma> and you send me before them so that this child can get the pleasure of telling me I am finnished?
[06:13] <emma> People will read this log and people will see with their own eyes
[06:13] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Emma, they're clearly in the right, judging by your previous few posts.
[06:14] <thoreauputic> indeed... </irony>
[06:14] <nalioth> Linux_Is_For_Gan: i do not believe you are involved in this.  may we help you with something?
[06:14] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> I was asking if LjL was around.
[06:14] <Jucato> haven't you been told no much earlier?
[06:15] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Yeah, I was wondering if he got on.
[06:15] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> "much earlier?"
[06:15] <thoreauputic> [LjL] is away (Gone away for now.)  <-- do a /whois to see
[06:15] <Jucato> when you were still Linux_OG
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> Linux_Is_For_Gan: might I suggest around 16:00-02:00 UTC as a more likely time frame.
[06:17] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Ok.
[06:17] <Linux_Is_For_Gan> Thanks.
[07:24] <ubotu> bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (r9k)
[07:29] <jussi01> elkbuntu: hrm, did he do something I didnt see?
[07:34] <thoreauputic> jussi01: anti semitic "jokes"
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Personallyi think it warranted a ban
[07:34] <jussi01> thoreauputic: yes, but he had been removed already once by tonyyarusso 
[07:35] <thoreauputic> and came back defending himself
[07:35] <thoreauputic> troll I'd say
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> yeah, ban makes sense.  I, meanwhile, am going to bed.
[07:36] <thoreauputic> in fact he came back twice, but then left
[07:37] <jussi01> ok. 
[09:35] <Piero_Scarufii> Hello
[09:35] <Piero_Scarufii> i have a question 
[09:35] <Piero_Scarufii> nalioth
[09:35] <Piero_Scarufii> PriceChild
[09:35] <Piero_Scarufii> any1
[09:39] <jpatrick> hello Piero_Scarufii 
[09:39] <jpatrick> what's up?
[09:40] <Piero_Scarufii> i was banned in ubuntu by Seveas he never specified for how long
[09:41] <Piero_Scarufii> he ruined my ubuntu experience
[09:41] <Piero_Scarufii> by banning me in all his Loco channels
[09:41] <Piero_Scarufii> also
[09:41] <Piero_Scarufii> for something that happend in #ubuntu only
[09:41] <Piero_Scarufii> and i think he isnt being fair by not telling me how long 
[09:42] <Piero_Scarufii> i cant use ubuntu w/o the little voluntary support i receive from those channels
[09:42] <Piero_Scarufii> my life line is cut here
[09:43] <elkbuntu> there are also forums
[09:43] <jpatrick> ...mailing lists
[09:43] <Piero_Scarufii> why does irc exist then?
[09:46] <elkbuntu> the irc channels are a privelege, not a right.
[09:51] <Piero_Scarufii> injustice is allowed on this earth...this world is the 365th heaven Abraxas laughs at us.. we are the lowest of the heavens and now i realize why.. guess what you and I and the person who banned is a inhabitant of this hellhole so dont get cheeky with me
[09:52] <Piero_Scarufii> warmongers are glorified and can get away with anything and yet i am at the other end fighting a useless battle for salvation ubuntu wasnt meant for this evil
[09:52] <Piero_Scarufii> you are all corrupted
[09:54] <Piero_Scarufii> people of debian were right
[09:54] <Piero_Scarufii> i should have listened
[09:55] <Piero_Scarufii> yeah ban me all you like but deep down inside your inner agrees with me
[09:55] <Piero_Scarufii> i have justice on my side
[09:55] <Piero_Scarufii> i fear no evil
[09:57] <Piero_Scarufii> i will spread the message about this injustic this isnt the end
[09:58] <Piero_Scarufii> :(
[09:58] <jpatrick>  
[09:58] <Piero_Scarufii> were are all the good people
[09:58] <Piero_Scarufii> am i the last one
[09:58] <Piero_Scarufii> where*
[09:58] <Piero_Scarufii> Bill Gates and I all alone
[09:59] <Piero_Scarufii> people who use windows at least sponsor the greatest philantropist of our time
[09:59] <Piero_Scarufii> so i a way ubuntu is evil
[09:59] <Piero_Scarufii> bu bye
[09:59] <jpatrick> that was random...
[09:59] <jussio1> wow, that was fun... 
[10:00] <jussio1> :/
[10:01] <no0tic> nice guy
[10:15] <fotoflo> hey can i get unbanned on #ubuntu, i was banned like weeks ago
[10:16] <fotoflo> appently Seveas set the ban, ive come on twice now and not seen him/her
[10:27] <jussi01> fotoflo: Im sorry, you will have to wait for Seveas.
[10:35] <fotoflo> i bet we are in way diffrent time zones
[10:36] <elkbuntu> fotoflo, it's obviously possible to be on at the same time if he banned you
[10:49] <fotoflo> I dont think I was on when he banned me
[10:49] <fotoflo> he didnt kick me, anyway
[10:51] <PriceChild> I have a lot in my backlog from emma.... *catches up*
[10:52]  * jussi01 sends PriceChild coffee to get him through. you will need it :/
[10:54] <jussi01> fotoflo: He was on at the same time as you. Please wait patiently for him to come. :)
[10:54] <Seeker`> was there backlog anywhere else than here?
[10:58] <fotoflo> err, im going home in 3 minutes, maybe next time
[10:58] <PriceChild> Seeker`: oh yes, bear with me. And wow a lot of unban requests tonight.
[11:48] <jpatrick> hi spb 
[11:48] <spb> hi
[11:53]  * Mez runs and hides from spb
[12:41] <PriceChild> Hey Piero_Scarufii, lemme take a look.
[12:45] <PriceChild> Piero_Scarufii: which channel?
[13:35] <Hobbsee> why does emma wish to descriminate on age?
[13:36] <Seeker`> I think she means that people are being immature
[13:36] <Hobbsee> even so, i'm sure she shouldn't be attempt to discriminate on it
[13:37] <Hobbsee> either way, i'm glad she's gone.
[13:37]  * Seeker`  -> uni
[14:02] <Hobbsee> !logs
[14:02] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[14:05] <LjL> !no logs is <reply> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[14:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[14:22] <LjL> For transparency and to better follow freenode guidelines, channels ENTRYMSGs have been changed/added (where relevant) to specify that the channel is logged and the location of the official logs. Please inform us if any logged channels are lacking the message, and if you are a channel contact, consider adding it to your channel.
[14:40] <beginnersmind> hi ive been banned from ubuntu-offtopic by Pici a long time ago, can i be unbanned now?
[14:40] <Pici> beginnersmind: Howdy, how can we help you today?
[14:40] <Pici> oh... okay.
[14:40]  * Pici looks.
[14:40] <Pici> beginnersmind: As this nick?
[14:41] <Pici> beginnersmind: Do you remember why you were banned?
[14:42] <Seeker`> LjL: Linux_OG was looking for you earlier
[14:42] <beginnersmind> oh, hi. how ironic... :D
[14:42]  * beginnersmind gives blank stare
[14:42] <beginnersmind> so... uh... my username at that time was hk2999. it was long time ago, i put up a godwin's law-related post
[14:43] <beginnersmind> and annoyed alot of people
[14:43] <LjL> Seeker`: the guy i don't believe a word from?
[14:43] <Seeker`> LjL: quite possibly
[14:43] <beginnersmind> i was ignorant of the !coc at the time...
[14:45] <Pici> beginnersmind: So you have read the Code of Conduct and the channel Guidelines now?
[14:45] <beginnersmind> yes.
[14:45] <Pici> beginnersmind: Can you give me a quick one line summary?
[14:48] <Hobbsee> "be nice to people"
[14:49] <Pici> "be conciderate" also works
[14:49] <beginnersmind> ditto :)
[14:49] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: I dont think he was asking you :P
[14:49] <Hobbsee> hehe
[14:49] <LjL> i thought it was "don't anger the ops"
[14:50] <Pici> beginnersmind: I'm going to remove this ban, but I want you to remember the guidelines.  If you think that something might be over the line, keep it to yourself, or ask an op if its an appropriate topic for the channel.
[14:51] <Hobbsee> LjL: or "don't spread propaganda"?  :)
[14:51] <beginnersmind> thanks Pici. i missed offtopic for a long time.
[14:51] <LjL> tsss
[14:51] <Hobbsee> there are many things that could be answered...
[14:52] <Pici> beginnersmind: anything else?
[14:52] <beginnersmind> none
[14:52] <beginnersmind> im gone
[15:50] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, evand said: !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:50] <LjL> !wubi
[15:50] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:50] <Hobbsee> !wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:50] <ubotu> But wubi already means something else!
[15:50] <Hobbsee> !no wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that Hobbsee
[15:50] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, evand said: !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:50] <LjL> and the difference is?
[15:50] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, evand said: !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:50] <Hobbsee> evand: diff?
[15:50] <evand> sorry about the noise on that wubi change
[15:51] <Hobbsee> ahh, so there was no diff
[15:51] <Hobbsee> np
[15:51] <Hobbsee> evand: is the wubi in beta or the hardy in beta?
[15:53] <evand> Hobbsee: I don't follow.  Wubi has been included since the alpha builds, but I wanted to convey in that sentence that Wubi can already be found on the Hardy CDs, and will still be included in the final release.
[15:54] <evand> As the question currently just points them at ubuntuforums and launchpad, which is great, but neither tells them how/where to get it.
[15:54] <Hobbsee> evand: ahhh, your later change makes that clear.
[15:55] <Hobbsee> evand: couldn't tell whether the "beta" referred to wubi, hardy, or both - statement was unclear
[15:55] <Hobbsee> !no wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:55] <ubotu> I'll remember that Hobbsee
[15:55] <evand> Yeah, I suck at making quick changes.
[15:55] <evand> thanks!
[15:56] <Hobbsee> y/w
[15:57] <evand> oh
[15:57] <evand> we don't own wubi.org
[15:57] <evand> it's wubi-installer.org
[15:58] <Hobbsee> !no wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that Hobbsee
[15:58] <Hobbsee> fixed.
[15:59] <evand> thanks
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[17:08] <Mez> jdong, ping
[17:08] <Pici> !jding
[17:08] <ubotu> jdong
[17:08] <Mez> lol
[17:09]  * Mez is getting strange errors from prevu
[17:10] <no0tic> lol
[17:11]  * Hobbsee mutters something about crack, and expected results.
[17:11]  * Mez pokes Hobbsee 
[17:11] <Mez>     -> removing directory /var/cache/prevu/builds/10616 and its subdirectories
[17:11] <Mez> cp: cannot stat `../<mhershberger@intrahealth.org>': No such file or directory
[17:11] <Pici> Very weird.
[17:12] <no0tic> Mez, escape < & > ?
[17:12] <Mez> no0tic, I've no idea where they're coming from
[17:13]  * Hobbsee boots Mez
[17:14]  * Mez feels loved
[17:14]  * Mez whistles and changes != to == temporarily
[17:14]  * Hobbsee watches as Mez breaks the universe.
[17:15] <Mez> nah, I can only break the backports pocket
[17:15] <Hobbsee> ahem.  crackports.
[17:15] <Pici> I'm sure jdong wont mind that.
[17:15] <Mez> Pici, ;)
[17:16] <Mez> Hobbsee, backports used to be, but I havent done much with them lately. Just want something available easily on my server
[17:16] <Hobbsee> haha
[17:16] <Hobbsee> ppa?
[17:16] <Mez> why when I can put it through backports
[17:17] <Mez> aha
[17:17] <Mez> it's that damned Original-Maintainer Field
[17:18] <Mez> being tagged onto the end of the file
[17:21] <jdong> Mez: oh you know that bug?
[17:21] <jdong> Mez: it's filed against pbuilder
[17:21] <jdong> Mez: backport pbuilder from hardy
[17:22] <Mez> jdong, yeah, just came across it ;)
[17:22] <jdong> Mez: pdebuild with certain flags mis-parse the dsc file
[17:22] <Mez> have you already backported pbuilder? 
[17:22] <Mez> jdong: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/214030 was what I was working on ;)
[17:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 214030 in gutsy-backports "Please Backport php-xdebug" [Undecided,New] 
[17:24] <jdong> Mez: see bug 157867
[17:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 157867 in pbuilder "pdebuild-internal broken when XSBC-Orig-Maintainer used because of faulty sed command" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157867
[17:26] <Mez> jdong - why is the testing team setup as the bug contact for gutsy-backports?
[17:26] <jdong> Mez: so more people get spammed by default for backports bugs
[17:26] <jdong> Mez: and since backporters is a member we get spammed too
[17:26] <Mez> hmmles...
[17:27]  * Mez isnt getting spammed for it
[17:27] <Mez> oh, wait, yes, I am
[17:27] <Mez> just not my bug
[17:27]  * Mez spams hobbsee
[17:33] <ikonia> heads up on thebills in #ubuntu potential troll
[17:34] <Mez> jdong, may i /msg you
[17:51] <jdong> Mez: I might not respond for a bit but yeah
[18:07] <jussio1> !test
[18:07] <ubotu> Failed.
[19:41] <Gary> lol
[19:42] <ompaul> Gary, well you are now the channel pet methinks
[19:43] <Gary> again!
[19:48] <ompaul> aye
[19:49] <Piero_Scarufii> How long my ban in #ubuntu?
[19:53] <ompaul> Piero_Scarufii, is that your normal nick?
[19:55] <ompaul> zenwhen, you got connection issues?
[19:56] <zenwhen> switching themes around in my chat app
[19:56] <zenwhen> sorry
[19:56] <zenwhen> think I am done
[19:57] <ompaul> np
[19:57] <ompaul> !guidelines | Piero_Scarufii please read this stuff and then have a chat about why what you were doing might have been not in line with what went on
[19:57] <ubotu> Piero_Scarufii please read this stuff and then have a chat about why what you were doing might have been not in line with what went on: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:05] <ompaul> !idle Piero_Scarufii 
[20:05] <ompaul> !idle | Piero_Scarufii 
[20:05] <ubotu> Piero_Scarufii: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[20:05] <ompaul> so as you have not engaged with us please feel free to drop by when you wish to discuss something other than soccer
[20:05] <ompaul> ;-)
[20:06] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[20:06] <ompaul> Seeker`, you seek it here you seek it there
[20:07]  * ompaul is really evil
[20:08] <ompaul> I have chosen to think this at any rate
[20:08] <Seeker`> ompaul: Just checking, as he is in -uk
[20:08] <ompaul> Seeker`, I know 
[20:08] <ompaul> who is talking with him there
[20:08]  * ompaul <---
[20:08] <Seeker`> :)
[20:08] <ompaul> but about something else 
[20:09] <ompaul> ergo the soccer comment in the remove
[20:09] <ompaul> sorry in the prep for the remove
[20:56] <Myrtti> jussi01: tweet
[20:57] <LjL> eaten by a grue
[20:59] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[20:59] <Myrtti> fine...
[21:00] <Myrtti> LjL: I'm sorry
[21:00] <Myrtti> what else can I say?
[21:01] <LjL> Myrtti: in most places, +v is seen as something positive :P
[21:01] <Myrtti> I don't consider it such if the topic says otherwise
[21:02] <LjL> Myrtti: but then you can change the topic
[21:02] <Myrtti> I sorta did
[21:02] <Myrtti> then someone sorta changed it back
[21:02] <Myrtti> you sorta remember?
[21:02] <LjL> Myrtti: i sorta do
[21:02] <Myrtti> i sorta thought you would
[21:03] <LjL> Myrtti: perhaps you could stop whining and just kick me before i give you the +v
[21:03] <Myrtti> I'm sorta getting bored with kickfests
[21:04] <LjL> Myrtti: but seriously, i didn't even remember i still had that little script on.
[21:05] <LjL> besides there are other people in the queue to be mocked too
[21:05] <LjL> you can't have everything for yourself
[21:08] <Myrtti> anyway, I'm sorry. This was about the first day in 5 months that I've worked for the current company that I considered resigning because I felt I had enough.
[21:09] <Myrtti> I know venting my frustrations in IRC isn't exactly model behaviour, but that's the flipside of working from home with nothing else than a lonely guinea pig and the Interwebs to scream at
[21:09] <Myrtti> and to
[21:10] <LjL> that's why i try to avoid jobs.
[21:11] <Myrtti> hah.
[21:11]  * Seeker` needs to find a job :(
[21:11]  * ompaul gives Seeker` the interweb
[21:11] <ompaul> catalogue it in real time
[21:12] <LjL> i think he meant paid
[21:13] <Seeker`> LjL: yup
[21:17] <ompaul> LjL, it is called google
[21:17] <ompaul> hehe
[21:19] <LjL> ompaul: it's also called april fools though
[21:20]  * ompaul buys LjL a bottle of iced water and a bowl of ice cream
[21:24] <Myrtti> hm
[21:25] <Myrtti> I've apparently started to wein myself from IRC quite well
[21:25] <Myrtti> adding these two channels added my anxiety again
[21:25] <Myrtti> hrm
[21:25] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[21:26] <LjL> you tell me? i have (to have) unagi on highlight...
[21:29]  * nickrud shudders
[21:29] <Seeker`> Myrtti: which two channels?
[21:29] <Myrtti> this and -irc
[21:36] <LjL> [22:36:33] <pardy> Hi, are you a freelance?
[21:36] <LjL> (not in any channels that i can see)
[21:58] <ikonia> LjL: unagi is a known troll
[21:59] <LjL> and you tell *me*?
[21:59] <LjL> i banned him from -ot, and unbanned him too
[21:59] <ikonia> ooh
[21:59] <LjL> and the latter is why i have him on highlight
[21:59] <ikonia> sorry, miss-read
[22:58] <zenwhen> Is it possible to request a private forum with someone on the IRC council?
[23:03] <LjL> zenwhen: what do you mean a private forum?
[23:03] <nalioth> zenwhen: you can PM me, if you wish
[23:03] <nalioth> or join the channel you'll get in a PM
[23:03] <LjL> zenwhen: the irc council mailing list is private
[23:14] <LjL> [00:13:53] --> dansnifpwo has joined this channel (i=tetois@gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat).
[23:14] <LjL> (#ubuntu, muted)
[23:25] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-irc, [NikO] said: uBOTu-fr is my bot, it was use on all #ubuntu-fr-* channels
[23:26] <nalioth> that is interesting.  ubotu answers up for other bots, now . . . .
[23:27] <Pici> ubotuijfewaiajewfoiwejfwaieea is test
[23:27] <Pici> guess not.
[23:27] <jdong> ubotu-test is test
[23:27] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jdong said: ubotu-test is test
[23:27] <jdong> :)
[23:27] <Pici> ubotu tends to discard non alphanumerics.
[23:30] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: msg the bot
[23:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:30] <tonyyarusso> Pici: since when are spaces alphanumeric?
[23:31] <Pici> tonyyarusso: since I wrote that sentence up there.
[23:31] <tonyyarusso> Pici: ah, of course.
[23:32] <Mez> LjL, is cat even a valid TLD?
[23:32] <jdong> ubotu: someone set us up the bomb
[23:32] <jdong> aww ,nothing interesting happens
[23:32] <Mez> jdong, all your base
[23:32] <Mez> jdong, get my /msg about the backports list earlier?
[23:32] <jdong> is belong to us? :D
[23:33] <jdong> Mez: yeah, did you get my msgs back?
[23:33] <Mez> nope, probably logged at work though
[23:33] <jdong> :D
[23:33] <Mez> backlog didnt send anything
[23:33] <LjL> Mez: i thought not
[23:34] <Mez> LjL, it isnt im sure... so how is it poss to get tha ..... oh... bad Reverse DNS
[23:34] <[NikO]> hi
[23:35] <[NikO]> i have a request about /ubuntu/member/ and /ubuntu/bot cloack
[23:35] <[NikO]> cloak
[23:35] <tonyyarusso> [NikO]: what sort of request?
[23:36] <Pici> McPeter: How can we help you today?
[23:36] <[NikO]> is it possible to have it for me ( /ubuntu/member/ ) and for uBOTu-fr ( /ubuntu/bot ) which is official bot of french channel
[23:36] <McPeter> Pici, i follow [NikO] just to view his request for cloak (sorry for my english. i am french)
[23:36] <Pici> [NikO]: Are you an Ubuntu Member?
[23:36] <tonyyarusso> [NikO]: ubuntu/member cloaks are for those recognized as members by the Community Council.  Link in a moment.
[23:37] <[NikO]> Pici, i have an launchpad account
[23:37] <McPeter> Pici, i leave just after :)
[23:37] <Pici> McPeter: Okay
[23:37] <Pici> [NikO]: Can you link to it?
[23:37] <[NikO]> https://launchpad.net/~nicolas-coevoet i m also irc op on #ubuntu-fr
[23:38] <tonyyarusso> [NikO]: It looks like you have not gone through the new member process - take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember for details.
[23:38] <Pici> !member 
[23:38] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[23:38] <tonyyarusso> Extra, extra!  Human beats bot (again)!
[23:38] <[NikO]> it s sad that irc activity cannot be logged :)
[23:39] <tonyyarusso> [NikO]: bot cloaks are an IRC Council issue - perhaps you're lucky and LjL is still by his computer.
[23:39] <tonyyarusso> [NikO]: oh, it is.
[23:39] <tonyyarusso> !logs
[23:39] <ubotu> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[23:39] <LjL> i am, but please, later, i'm pretty busy right now
[23:39] <tonyyarusso> sure
[23:39] <[NikO]> tonyyarusso, sorry but -fr channels are not listed
[23:40] <tonyyarusso> [NikO]: ah, well, that could be remedied if the channel contact wished.
[23:40] <[NikO]> ok
[23:40] <[NikO]> i will ask him
[23:41] <illovae> hello
[23:44] <[NikO]> the bot need to sign the code of conduite too ? 
[23:44] <[NikO]> ;o
[23:56] <McPeter> bye all