2008/04/08/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

[01:34] <pochu> ember: if you don't know what to do, feel free to fix exaile and listen multimedia keys, bug 188702... I'm willing to sponsor patches ;)
[01:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 188702 in listen "hardy: multimedia keys no longer work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188702
[01:36] <ember> i will have a look thanks
[01:38] <pochu> ember: thanks. if you patch listen, please look at bug 208708 at the same time, which has the fix in a comment
[01:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 208708 in listen "Listen doesn't export playlist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208708
[01:39] <pochu> good night folks
[01:39] <ember> later pochu
[03:19] <gNewPower> anyone here?
[03:21] <gNewPower> I have a sound problem: when I watch a movie with VLC the sounds suddenly goes off.  My suspicion is that the sound daemon crashes.  Is there a way to restart ALSA?
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[06:33] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <pochu> morning dholbach
[07:04] <dholbach> hiya pochu
[08:09] <crevette> bonjour
[08:24] <dholbach> hey njpatel, seb128, mvo
[08:24] <seb128> hey dholbach
[08:24] <njpatel> hey dholbach
[08:25] <seb128> everybody looks at the list of bugs closed in the new gnome-panel upload and hug vuntz for the rocking work there ;-)
[08:25]  * seb128 hugs vuntz
[08:27] <mvo> hey dholbach!
[08:27]  * mvo hugs vuntz
[08:28]  * dholbach hugs vuntz :)
[08:29] <seb128> the next one on the hug list is gicmo who worked until 4am apparently to get the new gvfs rolled
[08:29] <dholbach> ROCK
[08:29] <dholbach> desktop team power
[08:29] <seb128> ;-)
[08:30] <dholbach> nothing on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReportingPage though :)
[08:30] <seb128> bonus point for gicmo who won the staying late contest, I crashed in bed a 3am yesterday :-)
[08:30] <dholbach> oh man
[08:30]  * dholbach hugs seb128
[08:30] <seb128> dholbach: I will add a GNOME 2.22.1 packaged there when everything is uploaded
[08:30]  * seb128 hugs dholbach
[08:31] <dholbach> cool
[08:47]  * calc is doing all his sponsor uploads tonight :)
[08:47] <calc> is it common practice for these sponsor bugs not to have debdiffs?
[08:47] <calc> the first two i looked at so far didn't have them
[08:50] <dholbach> calc: which ones?
[08:51] <calc> elinks, nano
[08:51] <calc> 201769
[08:51] <calc> 187936
[08:52] <calc> when i'm too busy^Wlazy to sponsor quickly it is harder to determine the changes, but i used snapshot.debian.net to get it done
[08:52] <dholbach> calc: 187936 has a .dsc and a .diff.gz
[08:53] <dholbach> and 201769 has a .diff.gz too
[08:53] <calc> aren't we supposed to be reviewing what was changed when we upload though?
[08:53] <dholbach> sure
[08:53] <calc> diff.gz just shows everything, not what was changed from Debian
[08:53] <calc> to get that you need a debdiff
[08:54] <calc> actually a debdiff is really all you need at all, but diff.gz is nice too i guess
[08:54] <dholbach> zcat old.diff.gz | patch -p1 -R; zcat new.diff.gz | patch -p1; debuild -S; cd ..; debdiff bla blubb - I knot it's a bit cumbersome, but it does work
[08:54] <calc> if a package is no longer in the debian archive you have to go to snapshot.d.n to get the original diff.gz
[08:55] <calc> assuming it is there, which it is in 99% of the cases (at least)
[08:56] <calc> its not that hard to deal with later but it would be nice to remind people creating patches to attach them as debdiff's
[08:56] <dholbach> sure, just do it
[08:56] <calc> it takes < 1m usually to review a debdiff but considerably longer to deal with diff.gz for review purposes
[08:57]  * calc is almost done with all of his regardless :)
[08:57] <dholbach> I agree
[08:58]  * calc isn't meaning to be rude about the situation, i just noticed what looked like a trend with the first two sponsor uploads I did :)
[08:58] <calc> the third had a debdiff, yipee :)
[08:59] <crevette> hello
[09:00] <calc> dholbach: btw assuming any more pop up this week don't assign them to me :) i will be at a conference this week
[09:00] <dholbach> calc: alright
[09:00] <calc> and aiui we aren't supposed to upload any more after thursday anyway(?)
[09:00] <dholbach> calc: I don't know anything about that
[09:01] <calc> dholbach: Final Freeze I think is this thursday, then RC next thursday
[09:02] <dholbach> OK
[09:03] <calc> so i wouldn't be able to get to them (since i will be in the air flying) if they are assigned to me as a last minute upload :)
[09:03] <calc> at least if i understand what we are supposed to be doing wrt stopping uploads
[09:04] <calc> thats why i am still up at 3am :)
[09:04] <calc> getting all my work done before my flight
[09:05] <calc> i'm done with all the sponsor requests :)
[09:06] <dholbach> I'll wait for slangasek's announce of that
[09:06] <dholbach> calc: thanks
[09:06] <calc> ok
[09:06] <calc> have a good morning, time for me to go to bed
[09:06] <dholbach> sleep tight
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[09:23] <seb128> lut huats
[09:23] <seb128> lool: will the mobile team do the cheese update?
[09:24] <huats> salut seb128
[09:24] <seb128> huats: is your gcalctool upload to sponsor now?
[09:24] <pochu> good morning!
[09:25] <seb128> hey pochu
[09:25] <huats> seb128: working on it right now.
[09:25] <seb128> ok
[09:25] <huats> it'll be in a few minutes
[09:25] <pochu> morning seb128 :)
[09:25] <seb128> huats: do you want to do the yelp update too?
[09:25] <huats> moring pochu
[09:25] <huats> seb128: it was on my todo list for today too :)
[09:25] <pochu> hey huats
[09:25] <huats> and the libgweather too :)
[09:26] <huats> unless you need them right now....
[09:26] <seb128> huats: ok, could you download updated rosetta translations and update the patch while doing the update?
[09:26] <huats> of course
[09:26] <huats> I am asking for the updates
[09:26] <seb128> huats: libgweather has a soname change and was required for gnome-panel and gnome-applets, I did it this night
[09:26] <huats> ok
[09:27] <huats> (I saw the soname change in the 2.22.1.1 :)
[09:27] <huats> do I need to also ask for translations for gcalctool ?
[09:27] <seb128> I had to ask nicely to vuntz to roll a new tarball since he didn't change it in 2.22.1 ;-)
[09:27] <huats> :)
[09:28] <huats> that was my guess
[09:28] <huats> (that is was a mistake)
[09:28] <seb128> huats: no, yelp is a special case because it has translated xml which are not language packable for the documentations, other applications don't need such changes
[09:28] <huats> ok
[09:28] <huats> (the next question was how do I now when to ask for updates... but you already answered it)
[09:31] <lool> seb128: Ok
[09:31] <lool> seb128: I'll ping tremolux today; this one should be easier
[09:33] <andreasn> mpt: hello
[09:41] <seb128> lool: thanks
[09:41] <seb128> hey andreasn
[09:41] <andreasn> hi seb128!
[09:42] <mpt> hi andreasn, I saw your question but I was on a plane at the time, I'll look at it today after work
[09:42] <andreasn> mpt: ah, great!
[09:42] <andreasn> you mean the emblems, right?
[09:42] <mpt> I don't know what it was about
[09:43] <mpt> something in Banshee, iirc
[09:43] <andreasn> I feel like I have delegated a dozen things to you of late
[09:43] <andreasn> ah, the dialog thing
[09:43] <andreasn> I sent a e-mail to usability list a couple of days ago regarding emblems, thought you meant that first
[09:44] <andreasn> anyway, thanks a lot
[09:45] <mvo> seb128: I would like to touch gnome-session next and patch gnome-wm to add a check if the window manager in the gconf dir is actually available on the system :) is that ok or is someone working on the package currently?
[09:45] <seb128> mvo: it's ok but I uploaded a new version this morning, make sure to get this one
[09:45]  * mvo nods
[09:45] <mvo> thanks
[09:45] <seb128> you are welcome
[09:46] <mpt> andreasn, the Banshee thing is the only one I've seen ... If there are any others, please resend or send me links if you can
[09:46] <mvo> ubuntulog: @seen MacSlow
[09:53] <huats> seb128: gcalctool is ready for sponsoring :)
[09:53] <seb128> huats: ok, did you subscribe the sponsor team to the bug?
[09:53] <huats> I was doing it right now
[09:53] <seb128> ok
[09:53] <seb128> thanks
[10:03] <mvo> hey MacSlow!
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[10:14] <seb128> asac: do you think you will manage to do the epiphany-browse update today? trying to get the new GNOME available in hardy today
[10:15] <asac> think so yes.
[10:15] <seb128> cool, thanks
[10:16] <seb128> asac: http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany/2.22/epiphany-2.22.1.1.tar.gz is the current tarball
[10:16] <seb128> brb
[10:16] <andreasn> mpt: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2008-April/msg00010.html
[10:17] <andreasn> mpt: and bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469407 & http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469317
[10:17] <ubotu> Gnome bug 469407 in general "Emblem icon work" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[10:46] <mpt> andreasn, I don't think I have anything useful to say about emblems
[10:46] <mpt> except that it might be a problem that emblems being user-controlled prevents their use for showing standard metadata (e.g. read-only, shared, template)
[10:47] <andreasn> right
[10:47] <andreasn> I always thought of emblems as tags, but crap :)
[10:48] <mpt> haha
[10:48] <mpt> s/emblems/folders/
[10:49] <andreasn> I guess that if nautilus get a tracker-based tag system (or whatever), emblems will be phased out, but I guess we can leave them as it is for now
[10:49] <andreasn> well, yeah, that too...
[10:50]  * andreasn is never able to find anything on his laptop :(
[10:51] <mpt> For me Tracker always returns 0 results and I don't know why
[10:51] <mpt> Probably there's a checkbox somewhere that I don't know I need to check
[10:54] <andreasn> hey, that happens to me to
[10:54] <andreasn> beagle seems to be able find stuff for me, it also seems to be able to make my harddrive make ticking sounds all the time
[10:55] <andreasn> and go berserk on my performance from time to time
[10:57] <andreasn> but it will probably sort itself out in the end
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[11:53] <kwwii> seb128: I have two (hopefully final) updates
[11:53] <kwwii> seb128: one for ubuntulooks and one for human-theme
[11:54] <kwwii> seb128: basically, I updated the gtkrcs and added clearlooks again
[11:54] <seb128> ok, cool
[11:54] <seb128> where are the dsc to sponsor?
[11:55] <kwwii> seb128: http://sinecera.de/human-theme_0.13.dsc and  http://sinecera.de/ubuntulooks_0.9.12-11.dsc
[11:55] <seb128> ok, will sponsor that after lunch
[11:57] <kwwii> seb128: great, thanks
[11:57] <kwwii> I built both and tested them as well :-)
[11:57] <seb128> you are welcome
[12:19] <mvo> seb128: do you mind if I add a replace to liblaunchpad-integration? just overheard http://paste.ubuntu.com/6612/ on #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <seb128> mvo: read #ubuntu-devel?
[12:19] <mvo> no
[12:19] <mvo> heh :)
[12:19] <mvo> ok
[12:19] <seb128> ;-)
[12:21] <slomo> vuntz: why are you breaking API/ABI with libgweather in a stable release? :)
[12:24] <seb128> slomo: because there was no other way to fix all the 2.22.0 borkages
[12:24] <slomo> ok :)
[12:26] <seb128> mvo: we should figure a way to block obvious conflict cases at upload or in the upgrade tools
[12:29] <mvo> tricky, the conflicts checker might be a good candidate, but I'm not sure if he will not produce false positives
[12:30] <seb128> mvo: how so?
[12:30] <seb128> mvo: just look if something else in the current distribution conflict
[12:31] <mvo> seb128: you talk about the liblaunchpad-integration0/1 file overwrite problem and that we should have a way to automatically detect this? sorry, I just want to be sure I'm on the same page :)
[12:32] <seb128> mvo: yes
[12:32] <vuntz> slomo: because I hate packagers!
[12:32] <mvo> seb128: do you have a good idea/way of doing that?
[12:32] <seb128> mvo: I mean that's basically iterate over the binary uploaded content and look if the current distribution content list any of those in a different binary
[12:33] <seb128> mvo: and if they do check if there is replaces used
[12:35] <mvo> right, I think the conflicts checker (by robert colins) is doing something like this. that should indeed work pretty well for all but corner cases (e.g. update-alternatives)
[12:35] <seb128> not perfect is still better than nothing ;-)
[12:35] <mvo> yeah :)
[12:36] <seb128> otherwise couldn't apt do an unpack similation to check conflicts or something and hold the update is there is one?
[12:36] <seb128> s/similation/simulation
[12:36] <seb128> what is bad is not that the package stay in a broken state but that all other upgrades are stopped
[12:39] <seb128> mvo: other crackful idea, could update-manager detect that the issue is a conflict? and display a warning about the issue and a "retry" button which would do the apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure calls?
[12:50] <fernando> moin all
[12:50] <seb128> hey fernando
[12:51] <fernando> hey seb128
[12:51] <pochu> hi fernando
[12:51] <fernando> hi pochu
[12:51] <seb128> hey pochu
[12:52] <pochu> yo seb128
[12:53] <crevette> :)
[12:53]  * pochu waves at crevette :)
[12:54] <pochu> crevette: will you be at UDS?
[12:54] <crevette> what ?
[12:54] <crevette> arf
[12:54] <crevette> no :)
[12:54] <crevette> I'm not really kind of ubuntu developper
[12:55] <pwnguin> plus its like in brasil or somewhere ;)
[12:55] <crevette> Prague, Czech Republic
[12:55] <crevette> hey
[12:55] <crevette> I'm interested :)
[12:56] <pochu> that's a pity, you should come!
[12:56] <fernando> uds on brazil? cool ;)
[12:56] <andreasn> crevette: I'm thinking of going there, would be cool to meet you
[12:56] <andreasn> unless it too close to LGM so I run out of money
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[13:09] <crevette> andreasn, :)
[13:09] <crevette> hmm Prague
[13:10] <crevette> I've been said this is a beautiful place, whin nice buildings
[13:15] <huats> lut crevette
[13:17]  * crevette is happy so much people want to see him
[13:17] <crevette> hello huats
[13:17] <huats> crevette: you're a star :)
[13:17] <huats> get used to it ;)
[13:17] <crevette> not sure
[13:17] <pochu> no, he's a hero
[13:17] <pochu> a guitarhero :)
[13:17] <crevette> I more a kind a people slacking on every chan IRC has
[13:17] <crevette> pcou
[13:18] <crevette> pochu, yeah I am
[13:18] <huats> :)
[13:18]  * crevette received guitarhero III for its birthday
[13:18] <crevette> btw http://live.gnome.org/Wii/GuitarHeroIII
[13:18] <crevette> :)
[13:19] <seb128> crevette: happy birthday
[13:19] <seb128> crevette: is it any good?
[13:19] <huats> LOL
[13:19] <huats> thus happy birthday  crevette
[13:19] <huats> :)
[13:20] <seb128> I don't really see the point to play guitar this way but maybe that's because I never tried this game ;-)
[13:21] <pochu> crevette: oh, happy birthday!
[13:29] <crevette> my birthyday is few week away now
[13:29] <crevette> but thanks you very much
[13:29] <crevette> :)
[13:29] <crevette> seb128, it is really funny and attractive
[13:30] <seb128> crevette: how does it work, do you have a pad to play guitar?
[13:30] <crevette> you have a plastic guitar with 5 buttons on the "manches" :)
[13:31] <crevette> http://www.axsion.ca/store/xcart/images/T/guitar%2520hero%25203.jpg
[13:31] <crevette> you can do vibrato
[13:32] <crevette> the tracks are nice
[13:32] <crevette> you have punk, calssic rock
[13:33] <crevette> http://dynamite.web-2-0.fr/wp-content/0000077371.jpg
[13:33] <crevette> this is the Wii guitar
[13:33] <crevette> you can play over the net
[13:33] <Keybuk> 5 buttons?
[13:34] <crevette> youp
[13:34] <crevette> plus the buttons in the body of the guitar
[13:34] <crevette> s/in/on/
[13:34] <crevette> this is a nice piece of game to have; specially to play with friends
[13:35] <crevette> you should have one for UDS
[13:35] <crevette> :)
[13:35] <Keybuk> how can you play a guitar with five buttons?
[13:35] <crevette> you're not playing really
[13:35] <crevette> you have to type on the requeted button(s) when you have to
[13:36] <crevette> if you have flash look at some video on youtube /dailymotion
[13:47] <pwnguin> frets on fire!!
[13:47] <pwnguin> its wiitar compatible ;)
[13:48] <pwnguin> our ubuntu installfest mostly failed, but we did have a guy demo frets on fire with the wiitar
[13:58] <crevette> pwnguin, pairing a wiimote over bluetooth works mfine ?
[13:59] <huats> seb128: I am sure you know that already bug 213926
[13:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 213926 in launchpad-integration "package liblaunchpad-integration1 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/liblaunchpad-integration1.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/lpi-bug.png', which is also in package liblaunchpad-integration0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213926
[13:59] <pwnguin> crevette: wminput
[13:59] <seb128> huats: yes, the fix has been uploaded for an hour and there is a zillion duplicates
[14:00] <huats> :)
[14:00] <pwnguin> crevette: and yes
[14:00] <huats> ok
[14:00] <pwnguin> crevette: my mythtv box uses a wiimote for controls ;)
[14:00] <pwnguin> crevette: and playing emulators with the classic controller extension
[14:01] <crevette> okay
[14:01] <crevette> classic ?
[14:01] <crevette> withouth the guitar you mean ?
[14:01] <crevette> :)
[14:01] <pwnguin> the wiimote has several extensions
[14:02] <pwnguin> one of them is a nunchuck, another is the wiitar, the classic controller is very nearly a ps2 controller
[14:02] <crevette> ah I don't own a classic controller
[14:03] <crevette> I have the old gamecube pad
[14:03] <pwnguin> there's little reason to, unless you like to experiment
[14:03] <pwnguin> precisely
[14:03] <crevette> damn
[14:03] <crevette> I kept it to play with mario kart
[14:03] <pwnguin> works great for smash bros brawl
[14:03] <crevette> s/it/them/
[14:04] <pwnguin> the classic controller is passable, but awkward in comparison to the cube pad
[14:04] <pwnguin> at any rate, you can use a wiitar to play frets on fire
[14:15] <crevette> pwnguin, thanks
[14:15] <crevette> i'll try then
[14:15] <crevette> pwnguin, so for wminput I need to add a new input in Xorg I assume
[14:15] <pwnguin> nope
[14:15] <crevette> hmm, I'll look the documentation
[14:16] <pwnguin> the wiki's fairly straightforward
[14:16] <pwnguin> you have to run uinput
[14:16] <pwnguin> a first step would be to try wmgui
[14:39] <mvo> is anyone working on gdm ATM?
[14:40] <ember> not me
[14:42] <mvo> seb128: if you are not working on gdm currently I would like to upload a fix that check for /etc/environment as fallback for /etc/default/locale
[14:42] <mvo> this fixes a ugly i18n problem on dapper->hardy upgraes
[14:44] <seb128> mvo: wouldn't the fix to make sure that the default locale is set?
[14:44] <mvo> you mean that on dapper->hardy we should ensure that /etc/default/locale is created?
[14:45] <seb128> yes
[14:45] <mvo> that would be ideal, but is slightly more work than the two lines gdm patch
[14:45] <mvo> /etc/default/locale has no package that owns it (according to dpkg -S, I think the installer creates it)
[14:47] <seb128> mvo: ok, feel free to modify gdm, makes sure to get the version uploaded today
[14:47] <mvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6622
[14:47] <mvo> if you want to review
[14:48] <seb128> looks fine to me
[15:06] <mvo> seb128: can you think of anything we can do with gdm.conf-custom for dapper->hardy? I would like to prevent a conffile prompt when the user has changed e.g. the auto-login settings
[15:06] <mvo> but I guess we can not do a great deal here
[15:07] <seb128> nop, no idea about what we could change
[15:19] <mvo> gdmsetup (not the very latest, the 2.20.0 I think) took  a long time to start here, is that known?
[15:20] <seb128> what distro do you run?
[15:20] <mvo> hardy
[15:20] <mvo> ^Wdebian/potato
[15:20] <seb128> 2.20.0 is the gutsy version
[15:20] <mvo> oh
[15:20] <seb128> yes, there is some bugs about it being slow the first time it's ran
[15:21] <seb128> didn't investigate those yet though
[15:21] <seb128> and I don't get the issue
[15:21] <mvo> ok, that is fine, I was just curious
[15:21] <seb128> if you get the bug you are welcome to have a quick look
[15:21] <seb128> does it eat cpu?
[15:21] <seb128> could you strace it?
[15:26] <mvo> yeah, give me a bit
[15:28] <mvo> seb128: some BEGIN AUTH EXTERNAL writes to some external helper
[15:28] <seb128> hum, k
[15:28] <mvo> over gvfsdbus it seems
[15:28] <seb128> nothing obvious
[15:29] <seb128> gdm doesn't use gvfs, that's weird
[15:29] <mvo> it polls() on this fd for ~60s
[15:30] <mvo> it looks like its trying to talk over dubs
[15:32] <seb128> mvo: ok, thanks, maybe another issue due to gksu use
[15:33] <mvo> I don't think so, I used sudo directly, it seems to not make a difference
[15:33] <mvo> this is a dapper->hardy upgrade
[15:34] <mvo> let me check if I get it on a regular system too
[15:34] <seb128> mvo: all the bug we got were stock hardy installs so that's not an upgrade issue
[15:34] <seb128> mvo: no such issue on the CD
[15:35] <seb128> only after the first run once installed
[15:35] <mvo> aha, ok
[15:54] <seb128> fta: around?
[15:58] <seb128> fta: I'm doing the cairo update
[16:17] <seb128> could somebody who has the chan log give me the .dsc urls kwwii gave some hours ago?
[16:19] <seb128> dholbach: ?
[16:21] <Hobbsee> [22:30] <kwwii> 20:55:07> seb128: http://sinecera.de/human-theme_0.13.dsc and  http://sinecera.de/ubuntulooks_0.9.12-11.dsc
[16:21] <dholbach> http://sinecera.de/human-theme_0.13.dsc and  http://sinecera.de/ubuntulooks_0.9.12-11.dsc
[16:21] <seb128> Hobbsee: thank you
[16:21] <Hobbsee> seb128: y/w
[16:22] <seb128> kwwii: you can't downgrade version, current human-theme is 0.15
[16:25] <kwwii> seb128: erm, must have made a stupid mistake
[16:25] <kwwii> I didn't mean to
[16:25] <seb128> kwwii: and the ubuntulooks diff.gz seems to not be there either
[16:26] <kwwii> no, you mentioned that you only wanted the dsc :-)
[16:26] <seb128> heh
[16:26] <kwwii> seb128: I will upload the ubuntulooks stuff and fix the human-theme and upload it all too
[16:26] <seb128> ok, thanks
[16:26] <seb128> I only want the dsc url, so I can use dget on it and it'll download the diff.gz etc automatically
[16:27] <seb128> but those need to be available online, dget can't guess what you did
[16:27] <kwwii> seb128: lol, I pasted the wrong url :p
[16:27] <kwwii> It did make them right
[16:27] <seb128> otherwise we would not need you we could just dget to do the artwork updates ;-)
[16:27] <kwwii> :-)
[16:27] <seb128> ok
[16:28] <seb128> so the issue is that you copied only the dsc
[16:28] <seb128> and not the tar and dif
[16:28] <kwwii> right
[16:28] <seb128> diff.gz
[16:31] <seb128> hey tedg
[16:31] <seb128> tedg: new gnome-screensaver to package for you
[16:33] <kwwii> seb128: ok, http://sinecera.de/ubuntulooks_0.9.12-11.dsc is up with the other files
[16:33] <kwwii> seb128: and http://sinecera.de/human-theme_0.16.dsc along with the tar.gz, source.changes, source.build
[16:35] <tedg> seb128: Heh, another small bugfix there.  It seems the releases are barely worth the .0.1 that they're getting :)
[16:35] <tedg> seb128: I haven't gotten through my e-mail, but hopefully I'll have another GPM today also.
[16:42] <seb128> kwwii: sponsored
[16:43] <seb128> tedg: ok, let me know if you need sponsoring
[16:46] <tedg> kwwii: Heh, "This site was made with nifty software and can be viewed with nifty software."
[16:53] <kwwii> seb128: thanks :-)
[16:53] <kwwii> the website that never gets finished
[16:54] <seb128> kwwii: you're welcome
[16:54] <seb128> slomo: is there any reason you didn't upload you gedit-plugins update to debian?
[16:54] <slomo> seb128: yes, totem-pl-parser waits for binNMU because of new evolution-data-server and is uninstallable atm
[16:54] <seb128> k
[16:55] <slomo> apart from that it's good :)
[17:02] <tedg> seb128: Is there Evolution issues with the Exchange backend on Hardy?
[17:02] <tedg> seb128: There are a couple of people reporting it as "unusable" on the evolution-hackers list.
[17:02] <seb128> tedg: no idea, I'm just doing upstream updates, I've no exchange server to use it
[17:02] <seb128> we use the stock upstream code so if there is an upstream that's likely an upstream one
[17:02] <tedg> Good point, I was more curious if there was a bunch of bug traffic.
[17:03] <tedg> One guy mentioned that it was more evident on the 64-bit version.
[17:03] <seb128> there is lot of bug on evolution-exchange
[17:03] <seb128> but nobody has an exchange server to work on those
[17:04] <seb128> slomo: did you try your gnome-user-share update in debian?
[17:04] <seb128> slomo: building it on hardy I get a
[17:04] <seb128> Syntax error on line 45 of /usr/share/gnome-user-share/dav_user.conf:
[17:04] <seb128> Invalid command 'MinSpareServers', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[17:04] <seb128> spawning httpd failed
[17:05] <seb128> slomo: when running /usr/lib/gnome-user-share/gnome-user-share
[17:06] <seb128> slomo:
[17:06] <seb128> +<IfModule prefork.c>
[17:06] <seb128>  StartServers 1
[17:06] <seb128>  MinSpareServers 1
[17:06] <seb128>  MaxSpareServers 1
[17:06] <seb128>  MaxClients 3
[17:06] <seb128> +</IfModule>
[17:06] <seb128> slomo: why did you drop this change?
[17:24] <huats> I guess I'll never remember that : what can I do in order to rebuild an autoreconf patch ?
[17:25] <huats> which of course do not apply anymore with a new upstream version
[17:27] <seb128> huats: move it away, edit, run autoreconf --verbose --force, rm -rf autom4te.cache
[17:28] <huats> Ok
[17:28] <huats> thanks
[17:28] <huats> today I have decide : I start a wiki page with this stuffs...
[17:28] <huats> to remember them
[17:33] <seb128> huats: ;-)
[17:34] <seb128> huats: ideally those should be comments in the patch rather
[17:34] <seb128> but right, documentation on autoreconf patches would not hurt either
[17:34] <huats> oh
[17:34] <huats> I mean
[17:35] <huats> I was adding that to the wiki page I have started with 'recurrent' actions / sentences
[17:35] <huats> :)
[17:35] <huats> wihch is so far really personnal
[17:35] <huats> but you are right
[17:35] <huats> giving that to anyone might be great too...
[17:39] <slomo> seb128: hrm, i thought it was added upstream... if you want fix in pkg-gnome svn and upload, otherwise i'll do it tomorrow
[17:39] <seb128> slomo: I'm still busy doing GNOME 2.22.1 updates and trying to fix hardy issues before the freeze so it's not likelu
[17:40] <seb128> slomo: I wanted to see if we can sync the new debian version for this one
[17:40] <slomo> well, you can tomorrow :)
[17:40] <ember> hmm gnome-panel is kinda broken in map_refresh
[17:41] <vuntz> ember: 2.22.1 or 2.22.1.1 ?
[17:42] <ember> 2.22.1
[17:43] <vuntz> ember: fixed in 2.22.1.1 :-)
[17:43] <ember> cool, thanks
[17:47] <huats> seb128: the  yelp update is ready and main-sponsors subscribed
[17:48] <seb128> huats: thanks, I'll be away for diner soon but I'll look to that later
[17:48] <huats> seb128: don't worry
[17:48] <huats> I am not hurried :)
[17:48] <seb128> I'm not worried ;-)
[17:48] <huats> enjoy some rest :)
[17:48] <seb128> that was just for information
[17:48] <huats> and a nice dinenr
[17:48] <seb128> thanks
[17:48] <huats> ok
[17:48] <huats> no problem
[17:49] <huats> anyway tonight I have an important ubuntu-fr meeting...
[19:13] <pwnguin> heh; Human Looks on the DS
[19:13] <pwnguin> http://www.ds-scene.net/?s=viewtopic&nid=5377
[20:59] <fta> seb128, thanks for cairo
[21:00] <fta> btw, pixman failed on hppa. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13186093/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-hppa.pixman_0.10.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:01] <fta> not sure about the issue. could you try a respin just be sure it's not a builder issue ?
[21:01] <fta> i mean a "retry" without upload
[21:01] <seb128> pitti: ^ could you retry this one?
[21:09] <tedg> seb128: Could you please sponsor GPM and GSS updates?
[21:09] <seb128> tedg: sure
[21:10] <tedg> seb128: Thanks.
[21:53] <asac> mvo: still there?
[21:53] <mvo> asac: yes
[21:53]  * mvo is half-asleep
[21:53] <asac> mvo: can you point me to the code where i could add a mime type mapping for --xul-extensions=firefox-2 ?
[21:53] <asac> (gnome-app-install)
[21:53] <seb128_> asac: hey, epiphany-browser update? ;-)
[21:54] <asac> we are cleaning up extension data now that most extensions are in
[21:54] <mvo> yes, give me a sec
[21:54] <asac> seb128_: hey ... its not yet 11
[21:54] <asac> ;)
[21:57]  * tedg is really sad that upstream epiphany dropped del.icio.us...
[21:57] <tedg> I need a new plan for my bookmarks.
[21:58] <Nafallo> tedg: hi there. seb128 told me to talk to you about getting my backlight back on the Sony Vaio :-)
[21:59] <tedg> Nafallo: Back?
[22:00] <mvo> asac: you need to add desktop files with MimeType=application/x-debian-xul-extension-firefox-2 to app-install-data-ubuntu (or just sent them to me)
[22:00] <mvo> asac: then gnome-app-install --xul-extnesion=firefox-2 should pick them up automatically
[22:00] <Nafallo> tedg: something made it disappear, and I'm not sure what. I think seb blamed g-p-m ;-)
[22:01] <tedg> Nafallo: So, it worked with Gutsy, or sometime along with Hardy?
[22:01] <Nafallo> tedg: it worked up until some week ago (or days even?)
[22:01] <Nafallo> :-)#
[22:01] <Nafallo> hardy
[22:02] <tedg> Nafallo: And what does it do now?  Are we talking the keyboard keys?  Does the brightness applet work?
[22:02] <mvo> asac: let me test my theory
[22:03] <Nafallo> tedg: the keyboard keys does nothing and the screen is very dark. I honestly never heard of an applet for this :-)
[22:04] <mvo> asac: yep, thats it, call it from firefox-2 with --xul-extension=firefox-2 and add desktop files with the mime-type I mentioned above
[22:04] <Nafallo> tedg: brightness applet worked. let's hope it stays default now :-)
[22:05] <Nafallo> tedg: thanks. my brightness just was at 0 one day and I found no way to turn it back up ;-)
[22:06] <asac> mvo: thanks. thats simple :)
[22:06] <mvo> asac: yeah, I'm amazed myself :-D
[22:26] <seb128_> asac: when you do the epiphany-browser update, could you remove the <separator/> in 06_lpi and updated the launchpad-integration build-depends requirement to 0.1.17?
[22:34] <asac> test build is going. lets see
[22:40] <seb128_> asac: http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany-extensions/2.22/epiphany-extensions-2.22.1.tar.gz is also to update if you want, they have applied some xul1.9 changes
[22:41] <asac> seb128_: which separator to remove? there are two
[22:43] <seb128_> asac: the two separators, launchpad integration add those automatically now, which means you can uninstall launchpad integration and not get extra items there
[22:43] <asac> k
[22:48] <fta> seb128_, cairo 1.5.20 out
[22:48] <seb128_> fta: that's the one I packaged some hours ago, I though you replied on the chan already about it no?
[22:48] <fta> no
[22:48] <fta> i wasn't there at all today
[22:49] <seb128_> ah ok
[22:49] <seb128_> I let you a message saying that I was doing the update on the chan this afternoon
[22:50] <fta> ok then.
[22:50] <seb128_> 1.5.18 has some graphical corruption issues and made xulrunner crash on some websites
[22:50] <seb128_> so I did the update quickly
[23:15] <asac> seb128_: upload in progress
[23:15] <asac> seb128_: some things might work better ... others less good. let me know which suck more. i can put a little work in epiphany still
[23:15] <asac> seb128_: would be interesting to know if the crashes are less frequent now
[23:38] <seb128_> asac: ok
[23:39] <seb128_> asac: did you look at this crash on closing issue where I attached a valgrind log?§
[23:39] <seb128_> ?
[23:42] <huats> seb128_: plop
[23:42] <seb128_> re huats
[23:42] <huats> thanks for yelp ;)
[23:43] <seb128_> thank you for doing the update ;-)