| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [07:13] <crevette> bonjour | |
| [08:14] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [08:15] <seb128> hello dholbach | |
| [08:15] * dholbach hugs seb128 | |
| [08:15] * seb128 hugs dholbach back | |
| [09:26] <asac> hi ... would gdk_window_lookup(0) give me a valid window? root window? | |
| [09:34] <kwwii> seb128: I was thinking about including the clearlooks gtkrc as well since the engine is installed already by default, what do you think? | |
| [09:34] <seb128> kwwii: did you get requests for it? should be alright | |
| [09:34] <seb128> asac: hey, no idea about this one, better to try | |
| [09:35] <huats> moring everyone | |
| [09:35] <asac> seb128: ok | |
| [09:37] <kwwii> seb128: yes, quite a few people asked of it | |
| [09:37] <mvo> asac: if you need the root window id, better use GDK_ROOT_WINDOW() | |
| [09:37] <seb128> kwwii: the gtkrc takes no space, add it again | |
| [09:37] <kwwii> at the same time I hae an small update for the murrine theme | |
| [09:38] <seb128> lut huats | |
| [09:38] <kwwii> execellent, thanks...I'll ping you in a bit | |
| [09:38] <asac> mvo: is Xid 0 root window? | |
| [09:38] <asac> thats what i ask ;) | |
| [09:38] <huats> lut seb128 | |
| [09:39] <mvo> asac: aha :) sorry, I don't know. xprop -id 0 gives me a error here, xprop -root is fine, my guess is no | |
| [09:39] <asac> ok thanks ... thats what i expected. | |
| [10:04] <seb128> pochu: want to do some gnome updates? ;-) seahorse? | |
| [10:05] * mvo is off for some minutes to switch network | |
| [10:07] <pochu> seb128: yes, and vinagre and vino when they are released ;) | |
| [10:07] <seb128> I'll sync gnome-keyring when it's available on the mirrors | |
| [10:07] <seb128> pochu: there is also gnome-games to do if you are interested | |
| [10:08] <pochu> seb128: not that one this time... I need to do things for the uni | |
| [10:09] <seb128> pochu: alright, just asking in case you were looking for updates to do ;-) | |
| [11:02] <slomo> seb128: heh, so the epiphany 1st april mail wasn't a joke ;) what are you going to do for ubuntu? keep 2.22 for a long time, move it to universe or get webkit to main? | |
| [11:04] <bhale> hi slomo | |
| [11:04] <seb128> slomo: for hardy no change, the webkit backend is not really good yet in 2.22 | |
| [11:04] <slomo> yeah, i mean after hardy of course :) | |
| [11:04] <slomo> hi bhale | |
| [11:04] <bhale> if they get their way they are going to replace gtkhtml with webkit | |
| [11:04] <seb128> slomo: next cycle will likely just package the webkit variant as upstream is doing | |
| [11:05] <seb128> either promote webkit or demote epiphany-browser | |
| [11:05] <bhale> I think it will be ok for use then - webkit epiphany is already pretty usable | |
| [11:05] <slomo> ok, sounds good | |
| [11:05] <bhale> I only have one bug | |
| [11:05] <seb128> it depends on whetever yelp, etc are switched to webkit | |
| [11:05] <slomo> bhale: are plugins working good already? | |
| [11:05] <seb128> bhale: can you use plugins now? | |
| [11:06] <bhale> slomo: eh, ive never used plugins | |
| [11:06] <bhale> the bug is clicking links with a target don't work | |
| [11:14] <pochu> seb128: seahorse looks good, and slomo has already updated it in pkg-gnome too http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/seahorse_2.22.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | |
| [11:14] <slomo> seahorse is only a trivial cleanup change | |
| [11:52] <asac> mvo gone? | |
| [11:53] <asac> ah | |
| [11:53] <asac> ok | |
| [11:53] <asac> :) | |
| [12:05] <pochu> slomo: do we want the new gstreamer core/base in hardy? | |
| [12:13] <asac> mvo: do you have glatzors cell phone? | |
| [12:13] <asac> number ;) | |
| [12:13] <mvo> eh? | |
| [12:13] <mvo> asac: I think I have his regular number, but ... what do you need it for? | |
| [13:08] <slomo> pochu: if you love version numbers... :) we already have the two patches | |
| [13:09] <pochu> ah, so the updates are kind of useless for us... *nevermind* :) | |
| [13:09] <pochu> although base is a sync, so could update it | |
| [13:09] <pochu> s/could/we could/ | |
| [13:14] <seb128> ok, I changed the wikiTODO again | |
| [13:14] <seb128> we have now a table listing the things claimed as it used to have | |
| [13:14] <fernando> moin all | |
| [13:15] <seb128> and the list is only used to list usual updaters so you know if you should contact somebody before starting on an update | |
| [13:15] <seb128> hey fernando | |
| [13:15] <fernando> hey seb128 | |
| [13:43] <seb128> asac: http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany/2.22/epiphany-2.22.1.tar.gz, wants to do the update? | |
| [13:44] <pedro_> salut seb128! | |
| [13:44] <seb128> hey pedro_! | |
| [13:44] <glatzor> servus asac | |
| [13:45] <asac> glatzor: hey ;) | |
| [13:45] <asac> glatzor: got my SMS ? | |
| [13:46] <glatzor> asac, you are already approved :) | |
| [13:46] <asac> seb128: ill after sorting out the langpacks ;) ... or if i need a break from that :) | |
| [13:46] * asac hugs glatzor | |
| [13:46] <asac> glatzor: sorry for the SMS, btw | |
| [13:46] <seb128> asac: ok, thanks | |
| [13:47] <asac> glatzor: so how can i approve? | |
| [13:47] <glatzor> asac, no problem. I was just a little bit surprised. | |
| [13:47] <asac> do i just need to select the radio button next to the suggestion? | |
| [13:47] <glatzor> was my first ubuntu related sms :) | |
| [13:47] <asac> like for https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated | |
| [13:49] <asac> glatzor: select the radio and then "save & continue" ? | |
| [13:51] <glatzor> asac, what is the problem at all? | |
| [13:51] <glatzor> asac, an import problem? | |
| [13:51] <asac> glatzor: we have a bunch of translations that have suggestoins that need to be improved (due to deficiency of our import script) | |
| [13:51] <asac> glatzor: so basically its going over the list and approving the suggestion | |
| [13:51] <asac> some might have two ... but its obvious which is the right one | |
| [13:52] <asac> glatzor: i am trying thta now ;) (e.g. selecting the radio next to the suggestion and pushing "save & continue" | |
| [13:52] <glatzor> asac, you just have to pay attention to brain split problems in the future | |
| [13:53] <asac> glatzor: huh? | |
| [13:53] <glatzor> asac, that is ok. you want to do this for all languages? or only the "core" languages? | |
| [13:53] <asac> glatzor: personally i will only do german and hope for translator teams to do that for the other | |
| [13:53] <glatzor> asac, if you overwrite/confirm a translation in launchpad you won't get any upstream changes later | |
| [13:54] <asac> as sometimes there are two suggestions and i have no idea about chinese | |
| [13:54] <dholbach> seb128, pitti: I implemented your suggestions for 5-a-day | |
| [13:54] <asac> glatzor: ok. you say that new translation imports will not overwrite those tha i now approve? | |
| [13:55] <glatzor> asac, afaik right. | |
| [13:55] <asac> i think thats ok. given that we are at early stage we might be able to reset things once the import works perfect (me hides from translators) | |
| [13:55] <asac> but in order to get the right translation now i need to approve them ;) | |
| [13:55] <asac> and i want to test whats missing when i have german fully translated | |
| [13:56] <seb128> dholbach: which one? | |
| [13:57] <dholbach> seb128: namespacing stuff :) | |
| [13:57] <dholbach> it's 5-a-day <options> now (the old stuff still works via symlinks) | |
| [13:57] <seb128> ah ;-) | |
| [13:57] <asac> glatzor: i guess new imports will make new suggestions pop up? | |
| [13:57] <glatzor> asac, right | |
| [13:58] <asac> glatzor: what happens to the suggestions i am not using? | |
| [13:58] <asac> do i need to remove them manually for them to disappear? | |
| [13:58] <glatzor> asac, they will be sitting there until the end of time :) | |
| [13:58] <asac> or will they be removed because i chose one out of two? | |
| [13:58] <asac> glatzor: no chance to deny them? | |
| [13:58] <glatzor> asac, I am not aware of such a feature | |
| [13:59] <asac> thats interesting ... doesn't there accumulate cruft over time= | |
| [13:59] <asac> ? | |
| [13:59] <asac> there must be something ;) .. ill ask carlos | |
| [14:00] <pitti> dholbach: 5aday> thanks! *hug* | |
| [14:01] * dholbach hugs seb128 and pitti | |
| [14:01] * seb128 hugs dholbach and pitti | |
| [14:01] <seb128> oh, pitti is there! | |
| [14:01] * Hobbsee hugs dholbach and pitti and seb128 | |
| [14:02] * seb128 hugs Hobbsee | |
| [14:02] <Hobbsee> :) | |
| [14:02] * dholbach hugs hobbsee back | |
| [14:03] <dholbach> seb128: 5-a-day now has bash completion too and it only commits stuff to the remote branch if you haven't committed anything in the last 60 minutes - that should make it a bit quicker and avoid locks | |
| [14:06] <seb128> cool | |
| [14:07] <pitti> hey seb128 | |
| [14:07] <pitti> seb128: yeah, woke up very early (6:30) and did my mail and blogged | |
| [14:08] <seb128> pitti: had a nice trip to go there? | |
| [14:08] <pitti> seb128: the flight here was pretty hectic, but yesterday was nice (see blog) | |
| [14:09] <seb128> I didn't know that you have a blog, looking ;-) | |
| [14:58] <jcastro> seb128: btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep | |
| [14:59] <jcastro> seb128: feel free to put a desktop topic on the list, or just let me know and I can do it | |
| [15:00] <seb128> jcastro: ok, will have a look to that, thanks | |
| [15:39] <mvo> seb128: if you (or someone else) have a moment, I would appreciate if you could test if compiz from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main" work well for you | |
| [15:39] <seb128> ok | |
| [15:40] <Amaranth> mvo: btw, works fine for me :) | |
| [15:40] <mvo> did anything change with the nautilus/nautilus-cd-burner/libeel2-2 breaks? | |
| [15:40] <mvo> Amaranth: cool, thanks .:) | |
| [15:40] <Amaranth> but i can't test any of the specific things it was supposed to make better right now | |
| [15:42] <seb128> mvo: I did rebase nautilus on the debian version, I might have dropped a change or something, why? | |
| [15:42] <seb128> mvo: any issue? | |
| [15:42] <mvo> seb128: yeah, lts upgrades can not be calculated currently, not sure what the issue is exactly yet | |
| [15:43] <mvo> but it might be some inconsitency in the archive | |
| [15:43] <mvo> some bits build some not, I haven't really looked into it yet | |
| [15:44] <seb128> ok | |
| [15:45] <mvo> yeah, looks like nautilus-cd-burner is not yet publushed | |
| [15:46] <mvo> but the libeel2-2 breaks on (<= 2.20.0-1) | |
| [15:46] <mvo> eh, no | |
| [15:46] * mvo scratches his head | |
| [15:49] <pochu> great, we can't just sync vinagre this time | |
| [15:49] <pochu> unless we merge cdbs, but I doubt we will do it this late in the cycle, pitti? | |
| [15:49] <seb128> pochu: not a good idea no | |
| [15:50] <pochu> well, there's no changes needed so it's an easy one | |
| [15:50] <ember> pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: ggzd (>= 0.0.14) which is a virtual package. | |
| [15:50] <seb128> mvo: could you sponsor bug #213357? | |
| [15:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 213357 in gnome-terminal "Please sponsor gnome-terminal 2.22.1 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213357 | |
| [15:50] <ember> i'm getting this on gnome-games | |
| [15:51] <seb128> ember: slomo added a builddepends on ggzd in debian | |
| [15:52] <ember> i know, i added it to gnome-games too | |
| [15:52] <seb128> did the upstream configure changed or something? | |
| [15:53] <pitti> pochu: no, toolchain changes are not appropriate now | |
| [15:54] <mvo> seb128: ok, looks like gnome-control-center is not yet published but libgnome-desktop-2 breaks on it | |
| [15:54] <mvo> transient hopefully | |
| [15:54] <ember> seb128 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6562/ | |
| [15:54] <seb128> mvo: yes, I've uploaded a g-c-c rebuild one hour ago or so | |
| [15:54] <mvo> ok | |
| [15:55] <seb128> ember: the new builddepends doesn't seem required then, not sure why it has been added there | |
| [15:55] <seb128> mvo: can you do the sponsoring? just trying to split GNOME 2.22.1 sponsoring tasks ;-) | |
| [15:56] <pitti> pochu: what do you need from the new version? | |
| [15:56] <ember> seb128 it ftbs without ggzd | |
| [15:57] <seb128> ember: no idea about the issue | |
| [15:59] <pochu> pitti: not really needed... Vinagre in Debian build-depends on it now to get dh_icons called, which is in gnome.mk now, but I can leave it in rules and postpone the sync to Intrepid | |
| [16:00] <pitti> pochu: ubuntu's cdbs has done that for ages, so it should be good | |
| [16:00] <mvo> seb128, ember: checking out the gnome-terminal update now | |
| [16:00] <pochu> pitti: oh, nice | |
| [16:02] <ember> ggzd have too many changes upstream to merge it to ubuntu humpfh | |
| [16:08] <seb128> ember: just builddepends on whatever has the requires files rather than on ggzd if that's doesn't work correctly | |
| [16:13] <pochu> seb128: err, I thought I was here when I requested you the sync/sponsorship :) | |
| [16:13] <seb128> pochu: that's alright ;-) | |
| [16:23] <seb128> pochu: uploaded | |
| [16:59] <ember> seb when you have time check pidgin, is mostly bugfix | |
| [16:59] <seb128> yeah, will do that later today | |
| [17:00] <ember> thanks | |
| === fernando_ is now known as fernando | |
| [19:28] <pochu> slomo: can I have sponsoring for this? :) http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea.debdiff | |
| [19:28] <pochu> slomo: it backports two patches from SVN, fixing 2 crashes | |
| [19:29] <pochu> one I could reproduce it and it's fixed. The other one I couldn't, but jwendell could and has confirmed it fixes it | |
| [19:30] <slomo> ok | |
| [19:52] <pochu> slomo: thank you :) | |
| [20:45] <fta> seb128, i've posted a debdiff of the new cairo 1.5.18 yesterday | |
| [20:46] <seb128> fta: yes, I've noticed thanks, I'll upload that later | |
| [20:46] <fta> pixman is in now | |
| [20:46] <seb128> fta: btw maybe you could send your pixman change to debian so they can use it and we can sync again? ;-) | |
| [20:47] <seb128> fta: I did the upload so I noticed ;-) | |
| [20:47] <fta> oh :) | |
| [20:47] <fta> or i can do a merge | |
| [20:48] <seb128> you can but still would be nice to get them applying your change rather than having to keep ubuntu specific changes | |
| [20:49] <fta> yep, so feel free to send them. | |
| [20:49] <seb128> ok | |
| [20:49] <seb128> will do after having packaged GNOME 2.22.1, etc | |
| [20:49] <seb128> brb | |
| [21:22] <seb128> re | |
| [21:22] <seb128> mvo: around? | |
| [21:23] <mvo> seb128: yes, but not for long | |
| [21:23] <seb128> mvo: your compiz update doesn't work for me | |
| [21:23] <mvo> ohhh | |
| [21:23] <seb128> I get stucked on workspace 1 now | |
| [21:23] <mvo> tell me mor e please | |
| [21:23] <seb128> the workspace switcher applet still has the grib | |
| [21:23] <seb128> but neither the keybindings nor dnd success to switch workspace | |
| [21:24] <seb128> it's worth noting that compiz and compiz-fusion-plugin-main have not been updated | |
| [21:24] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded | |
| [21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (imgjpeg) - Error: InitObject failed | |
| [21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'imgjpeg' | |
| [21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded | |
| [21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (text) - Error: InitObject failed | |
| [21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'text' | |
| [21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded | |
| [21:25] <seb128> mvo: etc in .xsession-errors | |
| [21:26] <mvo> seb128: what did you do? a dist-upgrade and that lead to compiz and compiz-fusion-plugins-main being held back? | |
| [21:26] <seb128> mvo: no, I use your update-manager thing ;-) | |
| [21:26] <mvo> crap :P | |
| [21:26] <mvo> sorry SCNR | |
| [21:27] <seb128> and I can't use the dist-upgrade mode since it refuses to install non authentificated packages and close | |
| [21:27] <mvo> yeah, I guess that explains the trouble | |
| [21:27] <seb128> yeah | |
| [21:27] <seb128> still point a lack of Breaks somewhere | |
| [21:27] <mvo> could you please check with apt-get dist-upgrade what it would do in upgrade mode ? | |
| [21:27] <mvo> agreed | |
| [21:28] <seb128> Calculating upgrade... Done | |
| [21:28] <seb128> The following packages will be REMOVED: | |
| [21:28] <seb128> compiz-fusion-plugins-main-dbgsym | |
| [21:28] <seb128> The following packages will be upgraded: | |
| [21:28] <seb128> compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-main | |
| [21:28] <seb128> doing it now | |
| [21:28] <seb128> I just wanted to point the partial upgrade issue thing | |
| [21:28] <mvo> aha! | |
| [21:28] <mvo> thanks | |
| [21:29] <seb128> brb | |
| [21:30] <seb128> mvo: not better :-( | |
| === walters_ is now known as walters | |
| [21:30] <seb128> but it might be that the plugin loading issue kicked them out of the config | |
| [21:30] <seb128> mvo: should I reset /apps/compiz to try? | |
| [21:30] <mvo> meh :( | |
| [21:31] <mvo> yeah, or just fire up ccsm | |
| [21:31] <mvo> that is not encouraging | |
| [21:31] <mvo> same error with core too? | |
| [21:31] <seb128> no, no error now | |
| [21:31] <seb128> just no workspace switching | |
| [21:32] <seb128> mvo: ok, that was it | |
| [21:32] <seb128> the plugins had been dropped from my profile apparently | |
| [21:33] <seb128> back to normal after resetting the config | |
| [21:36] <mvo> seb128: ok, thanks for testing. not that good | |
| [21:36] <seb128> mvo: you are welcome | |
| [21:37] <seb128> mvo: just make sure that you block partial upgrades and that should be alright ;-) | |
| [21:37] <mvo> :) | |
| === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow | |
| === pmf__ is now known as ember | |
| [23:47] <ember> seb128 can i do file-roller? | |
| [23:48] <seb128> ember: no, I'm doing it, I've gio changes to use | |
| [23:50] <seb128> I did upload your piding update | |
| [23:55] <ember> thanks on pidgin upload | |
| [23:55] <seb128_> you are welcome | |
| [23:56] <ember> is anything on .1 that i can do? | |
| [23:57] <seb128_> ember: not right know, the updates are either done or waiting for a sync on debian or have somebody doing those usually | |
| [23:57] <seb128_> s/know/now | |
| [23:57] <ember> okidoki | |