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[07:13] <crevette> bonjour |
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[08:14] <dholbach> good morning |
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[08:15] <seb128> hello dholbach |
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[08:15] * dholbach hugs seb128 |
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[08:15] * seb128 hugs dholbach back |
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[09:26] <asac> hi ... would gdk_window_lookup(0) give me a valid window? root window? |
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[09:34] <kwwii> seb128: I was thinking about including the clearlooks gtkrc as well since the engine is installed already by default, what do you think? |
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[09:34] <seb128> kwwii: did you get requests for it? should be alright |
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[09:34] <seb128> asac: hey, no idea about this one, better to try |
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[09:35] <huats> moring everyone |
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[09:35] <asac> seb128: ok |
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[09:37] <kwwii> seb128: yes, quite a few people asked of it |
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[09:37] <mvo> asac: if you need the root window id, better use GDK_ROOT_WINDOW() |
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[09:37] <seb128> kwwii: the gtkrc takes no space, add it again |
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[09:37] <kwwii> at the same time I hae an small update for the murrine theme |
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[09:38] <seb128> lut huats |
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[09:38] <kwwii> execellent, thanks...I'll ping you in a bit |
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[09:38] <asac> mvo: is Xid 0 root window? |
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[09:38] <asac> thats what i ask ;) |
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[09:38] <huats> lut seb128 |
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[09:39] <mvo> asac: aha :) sorry, I don't know. xprop -id 0 gives me a error here, xprop -root is fine, my guess is no |
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[09:39] <asac> ok thanks ... thats what i expected. |
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[10:04] <seb128> pochu: want to do some gnome updates? ;-) seahorse? |
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[10:05] * mvo is off for some minutes to switch network |
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[10:07] <pochu> seb128: yes, and vinagre and vino when they are released ;) |
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[10:07] <seb128> I'll sync gnome-keyring when it's available on the mirrors |
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[10:07] <seb128> pochu: there is also gnome-games to do if you are interested |
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[10:08] <pochu> seb128: not that one this time... I need to do things for the uni |
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[10:09] <seb128> pochu: alright, just asking in case you were looking for updates to do ;-) |
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[11:02] <slomo> seb128: heh, so the epiphany 1st april mail wasn't a joke ;) what are you going to do for ubuntu? keep 2.22 for a long time, move it to universe or get webkit to main? |
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[11:04] <bhale> hi slomo |
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[11:04] <seb128> slomo: for hardy no change, the webkit backend is not really good yet in 2.22 |
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[11:04] <slomo> yeah, i mean after hardy of course :) |
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[11:04] <slomo> hi bhale |
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[11:04] <bhale> if they get their way they are going to replace gtkhtml with webkit |
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[11:04] <seb128> slomo: next cycle will likely just package the webkit variant as upstream is doing |
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[11:05] <seb128> either promote webkit or demote epiphany-browser |
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[11:05] <bhale> I think it will be ok for use then - webkit epiphany is already pretty usable |
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[11:05] <slomo> ok, sounds good |
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[11:05] <bhale> I only have one bug |
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[11:05] <seb128> it depends on whetever yelp, etc are switched to webkit |
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[11:05] <slomo> bhale: are plugins working good already? |
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[11:05] <seb128> bhale: can you use plugins now? |
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[11:06] <bhale> slomo: eh, ive never used plugins |
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[11:06] <bhale> the bug is clicking links with a target don't work |
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[11:14] <pochu> seb128: seahorse looks good, and slomo has already updated it in pkg-gnome too http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/seahorse_2.22.1-0ubuntu1.dsc |
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[11:14] <slomo> seahorse is only a trivial cleanup change |
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[11:52] <asac> mvo gone? |
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[11:53] <asac> ah |
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[11:53] <asac> ok |
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[11:53] <asac> :) |
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[12:05] <pochu> slomo: do we want the new gstreamer core/base in hardy? |
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[12:13] <asac> mvo: do you have glatzors cell phone? |
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[12:13] <asac> number ;) |
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[12:13] <mvo> eh? |
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[12:13] <mvo> asac: I think I have his regular number, but ... what do you need it for? |
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[13:08] <slomo> pochu: if you love version numbers... :) we already have the two patches |
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[13:09] <pochu> ah, so the updates are kind of useless for us... *nevermind* :) |
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[13:09] <pochu> although base is a sync, so could update it |
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[13:09] <pochu> s/could/we could/ |
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[13:14] <seb128> ok, I changed the wikiTODO again |
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[13:14] <seb128> we have now a table listing the things claimed as it used to have |
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[13:14] <fernando> moin all |
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[13:15] <seb128> and the list is only used to list usual updaters so you know if you should contact somebody before starting on an update |
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[13:15] <seb128> hey fernando |
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[13:15] <fernando> hey seb128 |
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[13:43] <seb128> asac: http://download.gnome.org/sources/epiphany/2.22/epiphany-2.22.1.tar.gz, wants to do the update? |
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[13:44] <pedro_> salut seb128! |
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[13:44] <seb128> hey pedro_! |
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[13:44] <glatzor> servus asac |
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[13:45] <asac> glatzor: hey ;) |
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[13:45] <asac> glatzor: got my SMS ? |
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[13:46] <glatzor> asac, you are already approved :) |
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[13:46] <asac> seb128: ill after sorting out the langpacks ;) ... or if i need a break from that :) |
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[13:46] * asac hugs glatzor |
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[13:46] <asac> glatzor: sorry for the SMS, btw |
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[13:46] <seb128> asac: ok, thanks |
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[13:47] <asac> glatzor: so how can i approve? |
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[13:47] <glatzor> asac, no problem. I was just a little bit surprised. |
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[13:47] <asac> do i just need to select the radio button next to the suggestion? |
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[13:47] <glatzor> was my first ubuntu related sms :) |
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[13:47] <asac> like for https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated |
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[13:49] <asac> glatzor: select the radio and then "save & continue" ? |
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[13:51] <glatzor> asac, what is the problem at all? |
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[13:51] <glatzor> asac, an import problem? |
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[13:51] <asac> glatzor: we have a bunch of translations that have suggestoins that need to be improved (due to deficiency of our import script) |
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[13:51] <asac> glatzor: so basically its going over the list and approving the suggestion |
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[13:51] <asac> some might have two ... but its obvious which is the right one |
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[13:52] <asac> glatzor: i am trying thta now ;) (e.g. selecting the radio next to the suggestion and pushing "save & continue" |
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[13:52] <glatzor> asac, you just have to pay attention to brain split problems in the future |
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[13:53] <asac> glatzor: huh? |
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[13:53] <glatzor> asac, that is ok. you want to do this for all languages? or only the "core" languages? |
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[13:53] <asac> glatzor: personally i will only do german and hope for translator teams to do that for the other |
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[13:53] <glatzor> asac, if you overwrite/confirm a translation in launchpad you won't get any upstream changes later |
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[13:54] <asac> as sometimes there are two suggestions and i have no idea about chinese |
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[13:54] <dholbach> seb128, pitti: I implemented your suggestions for 5-a-day |
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[13:54] <asac> glatzor: ok. you say that new translation imports will not overwrite those tha i now approve? |
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[13:55] <glatzor> asac, afaik right. |
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[13:55] <asac> i think thats ok. given that we are at early stage we might be able to reset things once the import works perfect (me hides from translators) |
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[13:55] <asac> but in order to get the right translation now i need to approve them ;) |
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[13:55] <asac> and i want to test whats missing when i have german fully translated |
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[13:56] <seb128> dholbach: which one? |
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[13:57] <dholbach> seb128: namespacing stuff :) |
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[13:57] <dholbach> it's 5-a-day <options> now (the old stuff still works via symlinks) |
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[13:57] <seb128> ah ;-) |
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[13:57] <asac> glatzor: i guess new imports will make new suggestions pop up? |
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[13:57] <glatzor> asac, right |
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[13:58] <asac> glatzor: what happens to the suggestions i am not using? |
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[13:58] <asac> do i need to remove them manually for them to disappear? |
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[13:58] <glatzor> asac, they will be sitting there until the end of time :) |
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[13:58] <asac> or will they be removed because i chose one out of two? |
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[13:58] <asac> glatzor: no chance to deny them? |
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[13:58] <glatzor> asac, I am not aware of such a feature |
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[13:59] <asac> thats interesting ... doesn't there accumulate cruft over time= |
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[13:59] <asac> ? |
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[13:59] <asac> there must be something ;) .. ill ask carlos |
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[14:00] <pitti> dholbach: 5aday> thanks! *hug* |
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[14:01] * dholbach hugs seb128 and pitti |
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[14:01] * seb128 hugs dholbach and pitti |
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[14:01] <seb128> oh, pitti is there! |
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[14:01] * Hobbsee hugs dholbach and pitti and seb128 |
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[14:02] * seb128 hugs Hobbsee |
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[14:02] <Hobbsee> :) |
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[14:02] * dholbach hugs hobbsee back |
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[14:03] <dholbach> seb128: 5-a-day now has bash completion too and it only commits stuff to the remote branch if you haven't committed anything in the last 60 minutes - that should make it a bit quicker and avoid locks |
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[14:06] <seb128> cool |
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[14:07] <pitti> hey seb128 |
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[14:07] <pitti> seb128: yeah, woke up very early (6:30) and did my mail and blogged |
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[14:08] <seb128> pitti: had a nice trip to go there? |
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[14:08] <pitti> seb128: the flight here was pretty hectic, but yesterday was nice (see blog) |
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[14:09] <seb128> I didn't know that you have a blog, looking ;-) |
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[14:58] <jcastro> seb128: btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep |
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[14:59] <jcastro> seb128: feel free to put a desktop topic on the list, or just let me know and I can do it |
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[15:00] <seb128> jcastro: ok, will have a look to that, thanks |
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[15:39] <mvo> seb128: if you (or someone else) have a moment, I would appreciate if you could test if compiz from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main" work well for you |
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[15:39] <seb128> ok |
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[15:40] <Amaranth> mvo: btw, works fine for me :) |
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[15:40] <mvo> did anything change with the nautilus/nautilus-cd-burner/libeel2-2 breaks? |
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[15:40] <mvo> Amaranth: cool, thanks .:) |
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[15:40] <Amaranth> but i can't test any of the specific things it was supposed to make better right now |
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[15:42] <seb128> mvo: I did rebase nautilus on the debian version, I might have dropped a change or something, why? |
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[15:42] <seb128> mvo: any issue? |
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[15:42] <mvo> seb128: yeah, lts upgrades can not be calculated currently, not sure what the issue is exactly yet |
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[15:43] <mvo> but it might be some inconsitency in the archive |
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[15:43] <mvo> some bits build some not, I haven't really looked into it yet |
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[15:44] <seb128> ok |
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[15:45] <mvo> yeah, looks like nautilus-cd-burner is not yet publushed |
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[15:46] <mvo> but the libeel2-2 breaks on (<= 2.20.0-1) |
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[15:46] <mvo> eh, no |
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[15:46] * mvo scratches his head |
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[15:49] <pochu> great, we can't just sync vinagre this time |
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[15:49] <pochu> unless we merge cdbs, but I doubt we will do it this late in the cycle, pitti? |
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[15:49] <seb128> pochu: not a good idea no |
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[15:50] <pochu> well, there's no changes needed so it's an easy one |
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[15:50] <ember> pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: ggzd (>= 0.0.14) which is a virtual package. |
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[15:50] <seb128> mvo: could you sponsor bug #213357? |
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[15:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 213357 in gnome-terminal "Please sponsor gnome-terminal 2.22.1 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213357 |
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[15:50] <ember> i'm getting this on gnome-games |
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[15:51] <seb128> ember: slomo added a builddepends on ggzd in debian |
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[15:52] <ember> i know, i added it to gnome-games too |
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[15:52] <seb128> did the upstream configure changed or something? |
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[15:53] <pitti> pochu: no, toolchain changes are not appropriate now |
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[15:54] <mvo> seb128: ok, looks like gnome-control-center is not yet published but libgnome-desktop-2 breaks on it |
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[15:54] <mvo> transient hopefully |
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[15:54] <ember> seb128 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6562/ |
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[15:54] <seb128> mvo: yes, I've uploaded a g-c-c rebuild one hour ago or so |
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[15:54] <mvo> ok |
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[15:55] <seb128> ember: the new builddepends doesn't seem required then, not sure why it has been added there |
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[15:55] <seb128> mvo: can you do the sponsoring? just trying to split GNOME 2.22.1 sponsoring tasks ;-) |
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[15:56] <pitti> pochu: what do you need from the new version? |
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[15:56] <ember> seb128 it ftbs without ggzd |
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[15:57] <seb128> ember: no idea about the issue |
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[15:59] <pochu> pitti: not really needed... Vinagre in Debian build-depends on it now to get dh_icons called, which is in gnome.mk now, but I can leave it in rules and postpone the sync to Intrepid |
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[16:00] <pitti> pochu: ubuntu's cdbs has done that for ages, so it should be good |
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[16:00] <mvo> seb128, ember: checking out the gnome-terminal update now |
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[16:00] <pochu> pitti: oh, nice |
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[16:02] <ember> ggzd have too many changes upstream to merge it to ubuntu humpfh |
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[16:08] <seb128> ember: just builddepends on whatever has the requires files rather than on ggzd if that's doesn't work correctly |
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[16:13] <pochu> seb128: err, I thought I was here when I requested you the sync/sponsorship :) |
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[16:13] <seb128> pochu: that's alright ;-) |
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[16:23] <seb128> pochu: uploaded |
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[16:59] <ember> seb when you have time check pidgin, is mostly bugfix |
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[16:59] <seb128> yeah, will do that later today |
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[17:00] <ember> thanks |
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[19:28] <pochu> slomo: can I have sponsoring for this? :) http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea.debdiff |
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[19:28] <pochu> slomo: it backports two patches from SVN, fixing 2 crashes |
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[19:29] <pochu> one I could reproduce it and it's fixed. The other one I couldn't, but jwendell could and has confirmed it fixes it |
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[19:30] <slomo> ok |
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[19:52] <pochu> slomo: thank you :) |
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[20:45] <fta> seb128, i've posted a debdiff of the new cairo 1.5.18 yesterday |
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[20:46] <seb128> fta: yes, I've noticed thanks, I'll upload that later |
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[20:46] <fta> pixman is in now |
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[20:46] <seb128> fta: btw maybe you could send your pixman change to debian so they can use it and we can sync again? ;-) |
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[20:47] <seb128> fta: I did the upload so I noticed ;-) |
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[20:47] <fta> oh :) |
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[20:47] <fta> or i can do a merge |
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[20:48] <seb128> you can but still would be nice to get them applying your change rather than having to keep ubuntu specific changes |
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[20:49] <fta> yep, so feel free to send them. |
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[20:49] <seb128> ok |
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[20:49] <seb128> will do after having packaged GNOME 2.22.1, etc |
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[20:49] <seb128> brb |
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[21:22] <seb128> re |
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[21:22] <seb128> mvo: around? |
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[21:23] <mvo> seb128: yes, but not for long |
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[21:23] <seb128> mvo: your compiz update doesn't work for me |
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[21:23] <mvo> ohhh |
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[21:23] <seb128> I get stucked on workspace 1 now |
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[21:23] <mvo> tell me mor e please |
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[21:23] <seb128> the workspace switcher applet still has the grib |
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[21:23] <seb128> but neither the keybindings nor dnd success to switch workspace |
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[21:24] <seb128> it's worth noting that compiz and compiz-fusion-plugin-main have not been updated |
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[21:24] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded |
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[21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (imgjpeg) - Error: InitObject failed |
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[21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'imgjpeg' |
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[21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded |
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[21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (text) - Error: InitObject failed |
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[21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'text' |
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[21:25] <seb128> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: no 'core' plugin with ABI version '20080214' loaded |
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[21:25] <seb128> mvo: etc in .xsession-errors |
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[21:26] <mvo> seb128: what did you do? a dist-upgrade and that lead to compiz and compiz-fusion-plugins-main being held back? |
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[21:26] <seb128> mvo: no, I use your update-manager thing ;-) |
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[21:26] <mvo> crap :P |
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[21:26] <mvo> sorry SCNR |
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[21:27] <seb128> and I can't use the dist-upgrade mode since it refuses to install non authentificated packages and close |
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[21:27] <mvo> yeah, I guess that explains the trouble |
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[21:27] <seb128> yeah |
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[21:27] <seb128> still point a lack of Breaks somewhere |
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[21:27] <mvo> could you please check with apt-get dist-upgrade what it would do in upgrade mode ? |
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[21:27] <mvo> agreed |
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[21:28] <seb128> Calculating upgrade... Done |
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[21:28] <seb128> The following packages will be REMOVED: |
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[21:28] <seb128> compiz-fusion-plugins-main-dbgsym |
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[21:28] <seb128> The following packages will be upgraded: |
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[21:28] <seb128> compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-main |
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[21:28] <seb128> doing it now |
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[21:28] <seb128> I just wanted to point the partial upgrade issue thing |
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[21:28] <mvo> aha! |
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[21:28] <mvo> thanks |
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[21:29] <seb128> brb |
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[21:30] <seb128> mvo: not better :-( |
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[21:30] <seb128> but it might be that the plugin loading issue kicked them out of the config |
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[21:30] <seb128> mvo: should I reset /apps/compiz to try? |
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[21:30] <mvo> meh :( |
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[21:31] <mvo> yeah, or just fire up ccsm |
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[21:31] <mvo> that is not encouraging |
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[21:31] <mvo> same error with core too? |
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[21:31] <seb128> no, no error now |
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[21:31] <seb128> just no workspace switching |
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[21:32] <seb128> mvo: ok, that was it |
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[21:32] <seb128> the plugins had been dropped from my profile apparently |
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[21:33] <seb128> back to normal after resetting the config |
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[21:36] <mvo> seb128: ok, thanks for testing. not that good |
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[21:36] <seb128> mvo: you are welcome |
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[21:37] <seb128> mvo: just make sure that you block partial upgrades and that should be alright ;-) |
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[21:37] <mvo> :) |
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[23:47] <ember> seb128 can i do file-roller? |
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[23:48] <seb128> ember: no, I'm doing it, I've gio changes to use |
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[23:50] <seb128> I did upload your piding update |
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[23:55] <ember> thanks on pidgin upload |
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[23:55] <seb128_> you are welcome |
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[23:56] <ember> is anything on .1 that i can do? |
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[23:57] <seb128_> ember: not right know, the updates are either done or waiting for a sync on debian or have somebody doing those usually |
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[23:57] <seb128_> s/know/now |
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[23:57] <ember> okidoki |
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