| [04:15] <donsmouse> info | |
| [07:53] <yao_ziyuan> if a linux distro aims to conquer the world's desktop, | |
| [07:53] <yao_ziyuan> it must appeal to app developers | |
| [07:53] <yao_ziyuan> and the best to that, | |
| [07:54] <yao_ziyuan> is to support cross-platform open-source RAD tools like Lazarus and Code::Blocks | |
| [12:57] <jenda> Mike_Feravolo: I always read when my name is mentioned :) | |
| === MrM is now known as mrmonday | |
| === MrM is now known as mrmonday | |
| [21:50] <DPic> nobody's added anything to the meeting agenda | |
| [21:54] <desertc> Where's the meeting agenda? | |
| [21:54] <desertc> Let's get the link in the channel topic | |
| [21:55] <DPic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-02-27 | |
| [21:59] <DPic> i think the channel topic is too long | |
| [22:04] <desertc> IMHO, a meeting to get the group organized is way more important than anythhing in the /topic right now. | |
| [22:04] <desertc> *announcing a meeting | |
| [22:05] <DPic> yeah | |
| [22:06] <DPic> the message i sent to the lists didn't evoke much of a response | |
| [22:06] <DPic> list* | |
| [22:11] <desertc> Hey, tell me what you think of this poster I am putting together | |
| [22:13] <DPic> it looks good | |
| [22:14] <DPic> can i play around with the source document? | |
| [22:14] <desertc> :) That is the source document. | |
| [22:14] <desertc> It's Sans font | |
| [22:15] <DPic> okay what do i use to mess around with jpegs? | |
| [22:15] <DPic> i'm used to working with pdf's in openoffice | |
| [22:15] <desertc> I am just using GIMP | |
| [22:15] <DPic> alright | |
| [22:17] <DPic> i think it's good | |
| [22:17] <DPic> but you should provide a few starting point. you mention firefox and ubuntu but you should actually direct them somewhere | |
| [22:18] <desertc> call to action - good point | |
| [22:27] <DPic> who are the ops for this channel? | |
| [22:44] <desertc> Well, Jenda, for one | |
| [22:45] <desertc> You could go to #ubuntu-ops and see who is running things at this moment, also. | |
| [22:46] <DPic> what do you think we should talk about at the upcoming meeting? | |
| [22:56] <desertc> I was just chatting with persia who game me a brilliant idea: Put a fake advertisement on employment bulletin boards with instructions to go to the a open source contribution website. :) | |
| [22:57] <desertc> Not sure that we want developers who can't find work in today's job market, but worth considering for the future if there is a recession like everyone predicts. | |
| [22:58] <desertc> DPic: Well, I hope that fellow maco comes to the meeting, who had all the ideas before. | |
| [22:58] <DPic> yeah | |
| [22:58] <desertc> He was sure telling everyone what is what -- yet I've never seen him in here before. | |
| [22:59] <DPic> what do you think of this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConvertFriends | |
| [22:59] <DPic> i just threw it together | |
| [22:59] <desertc> All the power to him if he wants to get this organized, but he'll have to do more than pop in for a couple minutes on one day. | |
| [22:59] <desertc> Not sure if the word "convert" is the one you want. ;) | |
| [23:01] <desertc> You may want to include this graphic. I have permission from the author to use it. | |
| [23:01] <desertc> http://www.linuxgamingworld.com/?q=node/194 | |
| [23:03] <desertc> The words "convert" and "target" sound hostile. It might sound better with "enlighten" and "uniformed" | |
| [23:03] <desertc> But you have some good information in there, nice work! | |
| [23:05] <desertc> I personally find that showing off what it can do will get them interested more than an explanation of Free Software. | |
| [23:05] <DPic> that's why knowing the person and their interests is important | |
| [23:06] <DPic> no matter what you have to decide what's appropraite | |
| [23:06] <DPic> that page is from like three different articles i've read | |
| [23:06] <desertc> You say not to be preachy in one part, and then you say to start by explaining Free Software in a later part. Seems to contradict. | |
| [23:08] <desertc> I would also add, "Don't promise the Moon." Too often people will say using Ubuntu will make your computer do everything including wash the dishes. As soon as a person gets disappointed with one failing, then it's back to Windows for them. | |
| [23:10] <desertc> I would omit all the "explain free software" references, actually. It's usually a waste of breath. They are so wrapped up in a closed-system, that they can't understand the situation. I like to say, "Come for the cost, stay for the freedom." | |
| [23:10] <desertc> People are more able to understand Free Software once they are using it. | |
| [23:12] <desertc> s/Some people don't understand how free software is better/ Some people cannot understand how free software is better/ | |
| [23:13] <desertc> Uh, still there? | |
| [23:18] <DPic> sorry about that | |
| [23:19] <DPic> i'm back | |
| [23:20] <DPic> i haven't had a problem explaining the basic concepts of free software to anyone | |
| [23:20] <DPic> and it can be explained without being too preachy | |
| [23:20] <DPic> i think the only people who are incapable are understanding it are probably the technopobes | |
| [23:21] <desertc> Well, I still think you mean cannot and not don't -- because if they simply don't understand then they will figure it out once you tell them. | |
| [23:22] <desertc> I do know many people who simply cannot bring themselves to understand issues involving freedom. I think it's due to the television conditioning. | |
| [23:25] <DPic> yeah | |
| [23:25] <DPic> alright i have to go rightn ow though | |
| [23:27] <desertc> cya! | |