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[00:31] <darthanubis> superm1, thanks for that very simple way of getting that app installed, libupnp
[00:31] <superm1> darthanubis, np. it will be handled automatically once it clears NEW
[00:31] <superm1> so no worries
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[02:24] <darthanubis> the transcoder in the backend, does that have to be changed to nuvexport if I want to use that to create and run transcoding user jobs?
[02:24] <darthanubis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346778&page=5
[02:25] <darthanubis> It seems I missed that part
[02:25] <darthanubis> I've been wanting to set this up for some time, but did not want to go the script method
[02:31] <darthanubis> seesm I have problms with ffmpeg
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[02:52] <darthanubis> shouldn't hardy have a better ffmpeg than gutsy'?
[02:52] <darthanubis> even the mediaubuntu one?
[02:55] <superm1> use medibuntu hardy's
[02:56] <superm1> it will handle the best
[03:03] <rhpot1991> superm1: still getting: 2008-02-16 22:02:48.855 NVP: prebuffering pause
[03:03] <superm1> no you're not
[03:04] <rhpot1991> heh, if only it was that easy
[03:04] <superm1> try changing the deinterlacing settings
[03:04] <superm1> they are very different on 0.21
[03:04] <rhpot1991> strange, you think that could effect remote recordings and not local ones?
[03:05] <superm1> well depending on how close on the gap you are bandwidth wise
[03:05] <superm1> maybe?
[03:05] <superm1> at very worst it doesnt hurt to mess with it a little bit
[03:05] <superm1> and xperiment
[03:07] <rhpot1991> hmmm, any idea where they are located at now, can't seem to find any options under playback
[03:11] <superm1> yeah they're still there
[03:11] <superm1> same place as before
[03:11] <superm1> just pick the option for the resolution you are working with
[03:12] <superm1> you can change a lot of other stuff there too
[03:12] <superm1> that would affect it
[03:12] <rhpot1991> you lie, it used to be on the first page of playback
[03:13] <rhpot1991> ah here it is
[03:13] <rhpot1991> this screen confuses me
[03:17] <rhpot1991> whats the purpose of this multi rez stuff now
[03:17] <rhpot1991> use one for SD one for HD?
[03:18] <rhpot1991> by default its listing 5, and my recordings can fall under any of those
[03:19] <rhpot1991> s/5/3/
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> keescook, ping
[03:20] <rhpot1991> forced XvMC and its even skippier
[03:20] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: are you off your roof yet?
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:21] <rhpot1991> I'd be afraid of losing my laptop doing something like that
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> eh, it's only like a 40 foot drop
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> just dont drop the laptop
[03:25] <darthanubis> I can't seem to find mediabunt's hardy repo
[03:25] <darthanubis> I'm compiling ffmpeg now
[03:25] <superm1> darthanubis, turn it on in mcc
[03:25] <superm1> it does it all for you...
[03:25] <darthanubis> hmm
[03:26] <darthanubis> thought I did that
[03:26] * darthanubis checking
[03:26] <rhpot1991> superm1: deinterlacing isn't helping at all, I've tried 3/4 of them and they all do the same
[03:27] <rhpot1991> nfs share fixed it originally, so it shouldn't be a bandwidth issue
[03:28] <superm1> you can change if it plays from the backend or nfs
[03:28] <superm1> on that page too
[03:28] <rhpot1991> "always stream from backend"?
[03:28] <darthanubis> yes ffmpeg is checked as enable
[03:28] <superm1> rhpot1991, yeah you can change that
[03:29] <rhpot1991> "always stream recordings from backend" doesn't do what you think
[03:29] <darthanubis> however that did not prevent it from failing to transcode to xvid, from nuvexport from cli
[03:29] <superm1> darthanubis, so then you have an ffmpeg from medibuntu?
[03:29] <rhpot1991> thats if you have recordings locally and on the other backend
[03:29] <rhpot1991> then it will get them from there instead of locally
[03:29] <superm1> rhpot1991, you sure?
[03:29] <superm1> why would someone have such a thing setup
[03:29] <rhpot1991> reading the description
[03:29] <darthanubis> not sure where it was from, unless it was left over from the gutsy upgrade, which did have ffmpeg from mediabuntu, cvs 3.0 version
[03:29] <rhpot1991> "enable this setting if you want mythtv to always stream files from a remote backend instead of directly reading a recording file if it is accessible locally"
[03:29] <superm1> apt-cache policy ffmpeg
[03:30] <superm1> rhpot1991, but that ignores nfs
[03:30] <superm1> whether its considered "locally"
[03:30] <rhpot1991> thats off by default
[03:30] <darthanubis> Installed: 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu6
[03:30] <superm1> hmm
[03:30] <rhpot1991> turning it in would say hey ignore this nfs share (which I currently don't have) and get them from the backend instead
[03:30] <superm1> darthanubis, 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4+medibuntu3 0
[03:31] <superm1> is the medibuntu latest one
[03:31] <darthanubis> hmph
[03:31] <rhpot1991> superm1: gonna go watch a recording in the living room, I'll be back in about 40 mins, can mess more then
[03:31] <superm1> darthanubis, so it looks like the medibuntu guys dont have it updated
[03:31] <superm1> darthanubis, you can go into apt and force the lower versin
[03:32] <darthanubis> I wonder which lower version I'd end up with?
[03:32] <darthanubis> doubt the mediaubuntu one, if I don't have those repos?
[03:32] <superm1> put the repo in
[03:33] <superm1> and then you will be able to
[03:33] <darthanubis> I'd feel dirty having gutsy repos in my hardy
[03:33] <superm1> no put the hardy medibuntu in
[03:33] <superm1> that's the one mcc activates
[03:33] <darthanubis> I can't find that repo
[03:34] <darthanubis> when I tried, i got a 404 error
[03:34] <superm1> hm?
[03:34] <superm1> well let me see which one i have
[03:34] <superm1> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free
[03:34] <darthanubis> yeah, mcc did no such thing for me
[03:35] <superm1> odd..
[03:39] <darthanubis> well downgraded to the mediabuntu ffmpeg, now ubuntu wants to update it , but it should work, I locked the version
[03:41] <superm1> i'm not sure who the medibuntu guys are, but maybe want to ask them to update it to be a later version than the hardy verison
[03:41] <superm1> so you dont run through having to lock it
[03:43] <darthanubis> k
[03:52] <darthanubis> Export to XviD (disabled)
[03:56] <frank23> I have downloaded a x264 video 1920x1080 that is choppy because the cpu can't keep up. I have a AMD Athlon64 3200+ Any ideas how to get better performance? I tried mplayer and xine and get the same result.
[04:25] <darthanubis> I got the one I built from source transcoding now
[04:25] <darthanubis> sweet
[04:26] <darthanubis> looks like it may be slower than mencoder
[04:26] <darthanubis> this is all so fascinating
[04:27] <darthanubis> I need more processors now
[04:28] <rhpot1991> superm1: any other bright ideas?
[04:28] <npurciful> i have a question about the hdhomerun, if i wanted to hook it directly to my computer i would need a crossover cable right
[04:50] <superm1> rhpot1991, turning on extra audio buffering?
[04:50] <rhpot1991> already on
[04:50] <superm1> long cat5?
[04:50] <rhpot1991> booo
[04:51] <rhpot1991> it can't be the wifi, it works over nfs
[04:51] <rhpot1991> also worked before I went to trunk
[04:51] <superm1> hmm
[04:51] <keescook> tgm4883_laptop: hola!
[04:51] <keescook> sup?
[04:51] <rhpot1991> gonna be hard to run cat5 cables through multiple floors when I move too :(
[04:51] <superm1> keescook, i think he had something to ask regarding us-tx
[04:51] <superm1> but i dont know what
[04:52] <tgm4883_laptop> keescook, us-tx is your mirror right?
[04:52] * keescook check my server
[04:52] <keescook> yeah
[04:52] <keescook> things look okay at a first-glance
[04:52] <tgm4883_laptop> it's not in the database, so what is the bandwidth limits on it so we can re add it
[04:53] <keescook> ah! My monthly bandwidth limit is 1TB
[04:53] <keescook> or rather, 1000 GB/mon
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[04:55] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, want to add that? Or should i risk fubaring the db up
[04:56] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, just do it through the web interface
[04:56] <superm1> shouldnt have too much trouble messing things up there
[04:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yea i'm looking at it in the drupal db module, but can't see any add functions
[04:57] <superm1> well if you can't do it via the web if, then you'll have to do it cmd line - remember i dont have access :)
[04:57] <superm1> but i'm pretty sure you can do it in the webif
[04:57] <superm1> adding a row etc
[04:57] * tgm4883_laptop doesn't have web server access either
[04:57] <superm1> no i mean right in the db module
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> ah, i can do a query
[04:59] <superm1> yeah there you go
[05:12] <darthanubis> any of you guys bother with the -rt kernel?
[05:56] <HeMan> Hi! Is there any plans to start building packages from the release-0-21-fixes branch?
[05:57] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[06:03] <HeMan> any estimates on when?
[06:09] <tgm4883_laptop> next week maybe
[06:37] <superm1> HeMan, already doing that....
[07:02] <darthanubis> * Restarting MythTV server: mythbackend QSettings: error creating /home/mythtv/.qt
[07:05] <darthanubis> Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/nuvexport-divx line 36.
[07:18] <darthanubis> missing the nuv_export perl modules?
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[07:43] <darthanubis> No config found; attempting to find mythbackend via UPnP.
[10:47] <darthanubis> anyone using nuvexport to transcode to divx?
[10:47] <darthanubis> as a userjob?
[11:05] <Tr1p> not here
[13:52] <Tr1p> HI . im a mythbuntu user but im adding IMDB to my movies , doe i always have to do it manual with "Find IMDB" or is there a option FIND ALL IMDB OF MY MOVIES ?
[13:53] <Tr1p> its like a 500 movies so it takes alot of time in that case
[14:02] <Tr1p> ?
[14:33] <frank23> Tr1p: not sure if this is what you're looking for but a have a look at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/TVWish
[14:34] <frank23> You can have to use a text file containing all the titles you want to look for
[14:34] <Tr1p> no mate its about my movies that i have stored on my hard drive - > http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:VideoBrowseview.jpg
[14:34] <Tr1p> oh is it ?
[14:35] <Tr1p> so i make an textfile with al the names of my movies and what i do then ?
[14:35] <frank23> Oh you mean have a description of movies you already have?
[14:35] <Tr1p> yea
[14:36] <frank23> TVwish lets you automatically schedule movies as they air.
[14:36] <frank23> it's not the same thing
[14:37] <Tr1p> oke , but do u know how i do it with all my movies in one time ?
[14:37] <frank23> no. osrry
[14:37] <Tr1p> np
[14:37] <frank23> sprry*
[14:37] <frank23> sorry*
[14:58] <famicom_> does anytone here have any hints
[14:58] <famicom_> on why kaffeine works just plain fine with DVB-C streams
[14:58] <famicom_> but mythtv outputs pure garbage
[15:16] <Aqua2> Folks... I'm looking at mythconverg and I'm seeing a bunch of entries that have the hostname of 'OLDHOSTNAME'
[15:16] <Aqua2> I'm trying to trim down my db a tad... can all those entries be removed??
[15:17] <famicom_> yeah just write a sql querry
[15:18] <Aqua2> ??
[15:19] <Aqua2> I'm looking at the db with phpmyadmin
[15:19] <Aqua2> can I just do a search in there and then remove all the 'OLDHOSTNAME' entries??
[15:21] <Tr1p> steven@MediaCenter:~/imdbupdater$ ./imdb-bulk-update.pl -N -Fileup -Exclude =============================================================================
[15:21] <Tr1p> Retrieving Video Path for this MediaCenter from mythconverg.settings
[15:21] <Tr1p> DBI connect('mythconverg:127.0.0.1','mythtv',...) failed: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at ./imdb-bulk-update.pl line 566
[15:21] <Tr1p> Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at ./imdb-bulk-update.pl line 568.
[15:21] <Tr1p> steven@MediaCenter:~/imdbupdater$
[15:22] <Aqua2> I just searched for 'OLDHOSTNAME' in all tables and it returned all tables with the number of entries.... there's a delete there too
[15:26] <famicom_> yeah like i said
[15:29] <Aqua2> where exactly does the mythtv sql db reside on Mythbuntu 7.10??
[15:32] <famicom_> ARE YOU REALLY THAT THICK
[15:32] <famicom_> LEARN TO READ A DAMN MANUAL
[15:32] <famicom_> and its mythconverge@localhost
[15:32] <directhex> you don't want to poke mysql files by hand
[15:32] <directhex> mythconverg. no trailing e
[15:32] <famicom_> ho
[15:32] <famicom_> mybad
[15:34] <famicom_> time for some chillpills
[15:35] <Aqua2> I meant physical location
[15:35] <Aqua2> but I found it
[15:36] <directhex> and i meant "you don't want to poke mysql files by hand"
[15:36] <Aqua2> is it ok to do it via phpmyadmin?
[15:36] <famicom_> yes
[15:37] <famicom_> and while you are at it just delete the database
[15:37] <Aqua2> or is there a way to let myth cleanup those old abandoned entries?
[15:37] <famicom_> why, are they bothereing you
[15:37] <Aqua2> they're not needed.. and it's just junk in there
[15:38] <famicom_> yeah, and you arent needed either
[15:38] <famicom_> and full of junk too
[15:38] <famicom_> doesnt mean i go out and remove you now do i?
[15:38] <Aqua2> dude.. why are you blasting me for asking a question?
[15:38] <famicom_> just leave them alone before you break it and come back whining for more help
[15:38] * tgm4883_laptop wonders if famicom_ has been drinking
[15:38] * Aqua2 THOUGHT that's what this channel was for
[15:38] <famicom_> tgm4883_laptop i wish
[15:39] * tgm4883_laptop warns famicom_ to be nice in the support channel, that it is what it is for
[15:39] <famicom_> I've been hacking away at exotic hardware
[15:39] <famicom_> that and trying to get some obscure encryption scheme to work
[15:41] <famicom_> as for drinking
[15:41] <famicom_> i wish
[17:34] <Gringo_> My hauppage PVR-150 remote is a bit unresponsive, so i did 'irw' on the command line and I noticed that sometimes a keypress gets registered twice, sometimes once. I'm guessing it's related to the unresponsive keys/missed keys that I'm experiencing in the frontend. lircd.conf documentation doesn't appear to be very good. Any ideas?
[17:44] <darthanubis> it just seems to be that way
[17:44] <darthanubis> I have the same card/remote
[17:49] <Gringo_> darthanubis: really? damn, that sucks
[17:50] <Gringo_> have you ever tried it in windows?
[17:50] <darthanubis> never
[17:50] <Gringo_> i haven't... if it has the same problem on windows, it's probably a hardware issue
[17:50] <darthanubis> I'm thinking it isa hw issue
[17:50] <darthanubis> just a crappy remote
[17:51] <darthanubis> but it stillgets the job done in myth
[17:51] <darthanubis> depends on how you podition your ir recieveer, and type of batteries used
[17:51] <darthanubis> and ambient light condidtions
[17:51] <darthanubis> ;)
[17:51] <Gringo_> oh, so it improves if you turn the lights off?
[17:52] <Gringo_> i'll try that ;)
[17:52] <Gringo_> nah, still misses the occasional key
[17:53] <Gringo_> have you tried any other remotes with Lirc?
[17:54] <darthanubis> Today we are introducing second Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha image.
[17:54] <darthanubis> no
[17:55] <darthanubis> Changes from alpha 1: Rudimentary transmitter selection support is available for all devices but the PVR-150; include support for lircrc files that are generated to ease the editting process; include support for lircd.conf files to organize lircd.conf; DKMS support;
[17:55] <darthanubis> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04754
[17:56] <Gringo_> cool
[17:57] <Gringo_> so Lirc has been improved, except when you've got a PVR150 :D doh
[17:58] <tarvid> installed mythtv and I am stick with no video source
[17:59] <tarvid> i want to install the backend and frontend on an existing gutsy installation
[17:59] <tarvid> no particular urge to install xfce
[18:00] <tarvid> do I have a choice?
[18:02] <darthanubis> yes
[18:02] <darthanubis> there is always choice
[18:02] <darthanubis> you have to add a video source, see the mythtv wiki
[18:02] <darthanubis> schedules direct
[18:03] <Gringo_> darthanubis: is it possible to use mythbuntu without keyboard/mouse?
[18:03] <Gringo_> because i still need a keyboard to shut down the pc, for example....
[18:03] <darthanubis> yes
[18:03] <darthanubis> I use only my remote once I start the frontend
[18:04] <darthanubis> look up info onthe mythwelcome screen
[18:04] <Gringo_> okay
[18:04] <darthanubis> you can setup power up and shutdown options in the backend, then you the remotes power button
[18:05] <darthanubis> I don't like that, as my BE is my desktop
[18:05] <Gringo_> backend and frontend is the same PC here, i use mythbuntu as a hard disk recorder in the living room
[18:06] <darthanubis> When MythTV 0.21 is released nuvexport will be integrated into MYTHTV.?
[18:06] <darthanubis> really? when?
[18:56] <HeMan> Hi! What is the url for the release-0-21-fixes-branch repository that 8.04a2 uses?
[18:56] <superm1> HeMan, look in debian/rules
[18:56] <superm1> you'll see it listed there
[18:56] <superm1> for the latest source packages
[18:59] <HeMan> hmm, I have to download 16.2 Megs to get one line...
[19:00] <superm1> give me a sec, i''ll look :)
[19:00] <HeMan> oh well, I allready downloaded it
[19:01] <HeMan> but I can't find it
[19:01] <superm1> SVN_BRANCH+= http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-$(SVN_MAJOR_RELEASE)-$(SVN_TYPE)/$(SVN_PACKAGE)
[19:01] <HeMan> umm, it's the url to put in /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:02] <HeMan> ...that im looking for
[19:02] <superm1> oh its just hardy's normal repo
[19:03] <HeMan> but I'm running gutsy on my htpc
[19:03] <superm1> HeMan, then put in the mythbuntu-trunk repo
[19:03] <superm1> its on mythbuntu.org
[19:03] <superm1> that's targetted for gutsy
[19:04] <HeMan> ah! I have the trunk but I guessed that trunk is, umm, trunk... :)
[19:04] <superm1> HeMan, well for now its switched to -fixes for 21
[19:04] <HeMan> good!
[19:04] <superm1> new builds should be coming tomorrow or so
[19:04] <superm1> once 21 is released, it will switch back to "trunk"
[19:05] <HeMan> sounds good
[19:06] <HeMan> perhaps a clearification on the web-page could be helpfull
[19:06] <superm1> HeMan, if you write up a few sentences i'll pop them in
[19:06] <superm1> what would have made sense to "you"
[19:07] <HeMan> superm1: I'll give it a try
[19:39] <HeMan> superm1: my shot, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4696/
[19:45] <superm1> looks good
[19:46] <superm1> ill add in a few min
[19:46] <superm1> thx
[19:46] <Tr1p> 20:57:22 up 68 days, 12:22, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
[20:07] <npurciful> has anyone used a PCTV HD card for pinnicle
[20:07] <adaptr> no, nobody
[20:07] <adaptr> *from*, perhaps
[20:08] <npurciful> s/for/from
[20:08] <adaptr> s/pinnicle/Pinnacle/
[20:09] <adaptr> s/PCTV HD/PC HDTV/
[20:09] <npurciful> heh, my hand get ahead of brain
[20:10] <npurciful> thats pretty good i misspelled almost every word
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[22:59] <Newbuntu2> hello
[22:59] <Newbuntu2> where can I download mythbuntu for desktops?
[22:59] <Newbuntu2> the website isn't working
[23:00] <Daviey> Newbuntu2: works here
[23:01] <Newbuntu2> can you paste a link?
[23:01] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso
[23:19] <Newbuntu2> i meant the program to run it on a preexisting 7.10 install, not a new installation
[23:21] <Newbuntu2> the link from
[23:21] <Newbuntu2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop
[23:21] <Newbuntu2> to install the program fails...
[23:22] <Newbuntu2> :(
[23:28] <tgm4883_laptop> Newbuntu2, this link http://mythbuntu.org/download/getmythbuntu.php
[23:28] <Newbuntu2> that fails
[23:28] <tgm4883_laptop> error message?
[23:29] <Newbuntu2> "can not find "mythbuntu-deskop"
[23:29] <tgm4883_laptop> apt-get install mythbuntu-control-centre
[23:29] <Newbuntu2> aha.
[23:30] <Newbuntu2> synaptic doesnt find anything, however...
[23:30] <tgm4883_laptop> synaptic doesn't find mythbuntu-control-centre?
[23:33] <Newbuntu2> tgm: had to update the sources; now it found it.... forgot this was a fresh install. downloading it now; thanks!