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[00:00] <kiko-afk> soren, geser: https://launchpad.net/bugs/179816 |
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[00:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 179816 in malone ""Unknown" importance should be unsettable if project uses Launchpad for bugtracking" [Medium,Confirmed] |
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[00:05] <ubotu> New bug: #191401 in launchpad "text-to-html on products?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191401 |
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[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191423 in launchpad "wish: subscribe to announcements by mail" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191423 |
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[02:50] <reacocard> I just created a PPA, and uploaded a couple of source packages to it, which were accepted. However, they do not appear to be building nor are they listed in the build records, is this normal? |
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[02:56] <jamesh> reacocard: what's your Launchpad ID? |
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[02:57] <reacocard> same as my username here, but I made a separate team for this PPA, called reacocard-awn |
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[02:58] <jamesh> that is weird |
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[02:59] <jamesh> I'd have expected to see them at https://edge.launchpad.net/~reacocard-awn/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all |
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[02:59] <reacocard> exactly what I was expecting |
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[02:59] <reacocard> but, they're not, and no error of any sort was given |
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[02:59] <jamesh> a lot of the PPA stuff is handled by cron jobs |
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[03:00] <jamesh> so it is possible that it hasn't been picked up for building yet (even though the source packages have been published) |
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[03:00] <reacocard> even so i'd expect it to be listed as 'pending' or something like that on the status page |
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[03:00] <reacocard> sorry, 'needs building' |
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[03:01] <reacocard> if it goes through on the cron and it's just not showing in the UI then that is a bug that need fixing, giving feedback to users is improtant |
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[03:01] <jamesh> if it still hasn't shown up in 30 minutes to an hour, please file a ticket at https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz |
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[03:02] <reacocard> it's already been nearly 40 minutes for the first one |
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[03:03] <jamesh> I agree that the system needs work. At some point, it'd be good to make the system a lot more event based |
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[03:03] <jamesh> (similar to how the background jobs for code hosting work) |
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[03:03] <reacocard> sounds good |
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[03:04] <reacocard> I'll give it another 20 minutes, if nothing shows then I'll file a ticket at the page you linked to |
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[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #191445 in launchpad "lint.sh still does s/bzr+ssh:/sftp:/, even though bug 147836 is fixed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191445 |
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[03:28] <reacocard> jamesh: it just went through (build failed but that was my fault, missing build-dep), so it seems it's just a bug in launchpad's build display mechanism |
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[03:41] <reacocard> mm, more ui bugs, after deleting what I had uploaded my 0 source packages are taking up 2.2MB of space :) |
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[03:44] <jamesh> reacocard: asking to delete something just removes it from the archive. |
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[03:44] <jamesh> there is another batch job that goes through to actually remove obsolete files later on |
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[03:44] <jamesh> unless you are running close to the quota, I wouldn't worry about it |
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[03:45] <reacocard> ah ok |
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[03:45] <reacocard> It just looked weird, I figured it'd be something like that |
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[03:46] <jamesh> there are still rough edges on the PPA functionality, as you've seen |
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[08:05] <carlos> morning |
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[08:28] <ubotu> New bug: #191485 in launchpad "repeated rows when searching for bugs with patches" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191485 |
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[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #191486 in launchpad "badge in bug listing for bugs with patches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191486 |
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[08:54] <goobsoft> I'm trying to use pbuilder to ensure I have the proper build-deps in a package I'm going to upload to lp ppa. However, I'm getting "cp: cannot stat `./misc': No such file or directory" |
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[08:54] <goobsoft> I searched on google and all I found was this which seems to be the same thing |
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[08:54] <goobsoft> http://pastebin.ca/884424 |
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[08:54] <goobsoft> the only place I have misc is in debian/control as "Section: misc" |
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[09:03] <goobsoft> nevermind, I was running pbuilder with the changes instead of the dsc |
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[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #191517 in rosetta "Person's translations page points to hidden pofiles" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191517 |
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[10:58] * kiko high fives scottk |
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[11:07] <thegodfather> hmmmm |
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[11:07] <thegodfather> kiko: ping? |
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[11:08] <kiko> yes thegodfather? |
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[11:08] <thegodfather> hey consigliere |
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[11:08] <kiko> how goes it |
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[11:08] <thegodfather> kiko: i am a bit lost on the LP interface.. i was wondering if you could help me a second |
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[11:08] <thegodfather> pretty ok... i guess |
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[11:08] <thegodfather> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/2.6.24.6-5.16 |
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[11:08] <thegodfather> i am trying to find the binaries generated by that source |
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[11:09] <thegodfather> i remember there was a way in LP to download them from the librarian even if removed from disk |
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[11:09] <thegodfather> but i can't find it anymore |
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[11:09] <kiko> right |
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[11:09] <kiko> thegodfather, unpack builds, follow a build, and then unpack resulting binaries, and pick the binary. |
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[11:09] <kiko> by unpack I mean expand the portlet |
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[11:10] <thegodfather> oh there it is :) |
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[11:10] <thegodfather> thanks |
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[11:10] <kiko> rock on |
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[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191534 in launchpad "Leadership Code of Conduct should be signed by Team Leaders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191534 |
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[12:22] <dholbach> how often are NEW packages accepted into PPA? |
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[12:35] <dholbach> cprov: ^ do you know? |
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[12:36] <cprov> dholbach: PPA uploads are auto-accepted, there is no queue-stage |
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[12:37] <dholbach> cprov: ah ok, it's just that in the 5-a-day PPA there are "No matching builds." for "All states" although I got the accepted mail |
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[12:37] <cprov> dholbach: PPA url ? |
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[12:38] <dholbach> cprov: https://launchpad.net/~5-a-day/+archive/+builds |
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[12:38] <cprov> dholbach: it takes up to 1 hour until the accepted sources get queued for build |
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[12:38] <dholbach> cprov: I see - thanks a lot, I'll be patient then :) |
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[12:38] <cprov> dholbach: ahh, that was the team name :) sorry. |
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[12:39] <dholbach> don't worry |
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[12:41] <cprov> dholbach: published 38 minutes ago ... the build(s) will be there in a bit, queue-builder starts on :08 and finishes on :48 (hourly) |
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[12:41] <dholbach> rock and roll |
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[12:41] <dholbach> gracias cprov - you ROCK |
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[12:41] <dholbach> hey thekorn |
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[12:42] <thekorn> huhu dholbach |
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[12:42] <cprov> dholbach: PPA users *rock* even more :), keep it up ! |
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[12:43] <dholbach> :-) |
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[12:53] <cprov> dholbach: btw, your build is there. |
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[13:00] <dholbach> cprov: yoohoo! |
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[13:02] <holtmann> I put in the bluez-gnome trunk/HEAD for translation and import directly from CVS. However it seems that needs to be approved first. Can someone please do that. Thanks. |
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[13:12] <kiko> holtmann, I did it today, but the import failed. |
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[13:12] <kiko> holtmann, I asked mwhudson to help me figure out what the problem is, because it's pretty weird. |
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[13:12] <holtmann> kiko: Anything I can do? |
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[13:13] <holtmann> Besides that Sourceforge.net CVS was down yesterday for a few hours. |
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[13:13] <kiko> holtmann, well, there might be -- I'll be able to tell you tomorrow. |
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[13:13] <kiko> he's in NZ so the timezone doesn't work out so well |
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[13:13] <holtmann> Okay ping me and I do it. |
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[17:05] <jonalv> Can launchpad couple to sourceforges bug tracking system in some way? |
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[17:06] <kiko> yes |
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[17:06] <kiko> we support sourceforge perfectly! |
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[17:06] <kiko> just add watches |
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[17:07] <jonalv> I like the word "perfectly" :) |
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[17:10] <jonalv> and now my question would be: what's the base url for a sourceforge projects bug tracking? |
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[17:11] <kiko> jonalv, just use a sourceforge URL |
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[17:11] <kiko> jonalv, SF is a unique tracker -- so it's a bit special. |
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[17:11] <kiko> jonalv, is there a form asking you for a base url? |
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[17:11] <kiko> jonalv, ah! you don't need to register the tracker |
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[17:11] <kiko> jonalv, just use SF urls -- it works. |
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[17:14] <jonalv> hm I don't think I understand. I seem to have some other projects bugs now :) |
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[17:15] <kiko> jonalv, what are you trying to do? |
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[17:16] <jonalv> Well in change details I changed bugs are tracked from "somewhere else" to In a registered bug tracker Sourceforge.net tracker |
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[17:18] <jonalv> Then I went over to bugs thinking that I could point it over to some sourceforge adress somehow |
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[17:19] <jonalv> ah well not exactly I think it was something about bug tracker.... |
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[17:20] <jonalv> The short answer is probably: "then I got lost..." |
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[17:27] <kiko> aha |
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[17:27] <kiko> jonalv, can you show me an example bug? I'll teach you something. |
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[17:27] <jonalv> <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1885535&group_id=150681&atid=778609> |
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[17:27] <ubotu> Sourceforge bug 1885535 "Jmol broken in 1.2.0" [Pri: 5,Open] - Assigned to Nobody/Anonymous |
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[17:30] <ChrisM> Hello, is there the Launchpad where I can get help with Ubuntu problems? I was directed to here by a person in #ubuntu. |
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[17:31] <ChrisM> is this* |
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[17:33] <kiko> jonalv, I mean the launchpad bug. |
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[17:33] <kiko> ChrisM, what problems are you having? |
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[17:33] <jonalv> kiko, what launchpad bug? :) |
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[17:33] <kiko> jonalv, you said "in change details".. what project was this? |
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[17:33] <jonalv> kiko, we seems to have some sort of communication problem here :) |
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[17:33] <kiko> yeah, a big one! |
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[17:34] <kiko> heh |
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[17:34] <ChrisM> I updated the Linux Kernel Headers, and no matter what I try, I can't seem to get past this error in the menu.lst |
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[17:34] <jonalv> the launchpad project is bioclipse |
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[17:34] <kiko> ChrisM, okay. they probably were suggesting you asked the question at answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu |
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[17:34] <kiko> jonalv, thanks. |
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[17:35] <ChrisM> Oh, on a forum? |
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[17:35] <kiko> ChrisM, sort of. |
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[17:35] <ChrisM> OH OK. |
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[17:36] <kiko> jonalv, okay. were you looking to import your bugs into launchpad? I guess I'm not sure what you want to do. |
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[17:36] <jonalv> Well remember what I asked first? If laucnhpad could couple over and use the sourceforge bug tracker |
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[17:37] <jonalv> somehow |
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[17:38] <kiko> jonalv, well, can you clarify the somehow? that's the root of my confusion right now. :-) |
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[17:38] <jonalv> Ah well, I guess hm... |
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[17:39] <jonalv> Well pu it like this |
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[17:39] <jonalv> We want to use launchpad but we want to keep having the bugs at sourceforge for a while longer. |
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[17:39] <jonalv> Is there a best way for doing this? |
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[17:40] <jonalv> Can launchpad use the bugs over at sourceforge in some way? |
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[17:40] <jonalv> I was beginning to suspect this was the case since I could clearly tell it that the bugs in fact are over at sourceforge... |
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[17:44] <jonalv> ah ping kiko? |
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[17:45] <kiko> jonalv, okay. |
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[17:46] <kiko> jonalv, right now we can't import your bugs read-only into launchpad. we'd like to do that, but there is a bit of engineering that needs to happen. |
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[17:46] <tomek> good day, I need to develop a closed source project. Can I host it on launchpad? |
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[17:46] <kiko> tomek, talk to statik! :) |
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[17:47] <tomek> kiko: thanks :) |
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[17:47] <kiko> jonalv, I was checking to see if your software is in Ubuntu, but I see it's not |
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[17:47] <jonalv> kiko, okey so the answer is: "not yet"? :) |
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[17:47] <jonalv> ah yes the answer to that is not yet :) |
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[17:47] <kiko> jonalv, well, what can be done is bugs in Launchpad can be linked to bugs in SourceForge |
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[17:47] <kiko> jonalv, however, in your case, that isn't really what you want I don't think |
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[17:47] <jonalv> okey, that is at least very helpful I guess |
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[17:47] <kiko> jonalv, we use this functionality so that a project can keep track of bugs that are actually caused by other software |
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[17:48] <jonalv> ah |
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[17:48] <kiko> jonalv, for instance, in Ubuntu, we use these links (called bug watches) to say "this bug is in Ubuntu, but it's actually caused by a problem in firefox" or whatever upstream it is. |
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[17:48] <kiko> jonalv, let me find a bug to exemplify this to you |
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[17:48] <tomek> statik: hello? :) |
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[17:48] <jonalv> yup I understand :) |
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[17:49] <jonalv> kiko, I understand :) |
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[17:49] <kiko> tomek, hmm, let me see if he's on the phone |
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[17:49] <kiko> ah, he dropped off |
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[17:49] <kiko> tomek, can you write to elliot@canonical.com? |
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[17:50] <tomek> oh, okey. but I mean only an academic project for a competition |
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[17:50] <tomek> it is not something big or... you know :) |
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[17:51] <kiko> tomek, yeah, I understand -- Launchpad's free for free software, and for non-free you need to check with him |
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[17:51] <tomek> something that may get opened next year |
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[17:51] <tomek> ok thanks :) |
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[17:58] <statik> tomek: hey there |
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[17:58] <statik> was getting some food |
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[18:03] <tomek> hey! |
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[18:04] <tomek> I was thinking about using Launchpad for our academic project |
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[18:04] <tomek> it has to be in the beginning closed source, because we would lose the competition if others took all our work |
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[18:05] <tomek> the topic is very hot, so our innovations must be kept secret |
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[18:05] <tomek> is it possible to get such an account? |
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[18:11] <Rinchen> tomek, interesting! |
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[18:11] <Rinchen> tomek, the best thing you can do is to send an email with your details to feedback@launchpad.net |
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[18:11] <tomek> statik is probably eating the food now |
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[18:12] <tomek> Rinchen: send a request or share the idea of hosting a closed source projects? |
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[18:12] <statik> tomek: go ahead and mail me as kiko previously suggested and we'll see what we can do. |
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[18:12] <Rinchen> tomek, what statik just said :-) |
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[18:13] <statik> it sounds like a very exciting project |
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[18:13] <tomek> yes |
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[18:13] <kiko> ah, I was going to show jonalk https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/16465 |
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[18:13] <kiko> oh well |
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[18:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 16465 in firefox "Firefox eats up all the CPU with certain pages" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) |
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[18:13] <tomek> competition by MS |
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[18:13] <tomek> so does launchpad help in translating Visual Studio projects? |
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[18:14] <statik> tomek: I don't think it has anything to do with visual studio |
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[18:14] <statik> but with the resource file format |
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[18:14] <statik> windows uses integers as string identifiers |
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[18:14] <tomek> oh.. |
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[18:14] <statik> while po files use the english string as an identifier |
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[18:15] <tomek> so there is no bigger problem |
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[18:15] <statik> no |
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[18:15] <statik> it's a question of teaching launchpad to understand the file format |
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[18:15] <statik> I've been thinking we needed to support this |
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[18:15] <statik> but you are the first person I've seen request it |
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[18:15] <statik> do you have your resource files built already, or are you just getting started? |
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[18:16] <tomek> we are just getting started |
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[18:16] <tomek> and I've found your blueprint manager |
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[18:16] <tomek> that's thing I dreamed of |
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[18:16] <statik> it can be a bit tricky to allow changing languages on the fly using the windows translation formats |
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[18:16] <statik> but you don't have to use the built in windows resource file format on your code |
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[18:16] <statik> in fact, if you intend the software to be portable to other systems, I recommend against using the windows format |
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[18:17] <statik> and instead using something like ICU (IBM Components for Unicode or something like that) for managing your strings |
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[18:17] <statik> this works just fine on windows and all the other platforms as well, so porting is a whole lot easier |
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[18:17] <tomek> it is a MS competition, so we have to use VS... |
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[18:17] <statik> sure, you can use visual studio |
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[18:17] <statik> that is just a compiler and an IDE |
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[18:18] <statik> anyway, I'm sure you will make a good choice there |
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[18:18] <tomek> thanks :) |
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[18:18] <statik> just wanted to point out a hard-earned lesson about portability in translation formats :) |
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[18:21] <tomek> we are now choosing technologies to achieve our goals, and the time to decide on file formats is coming :) |
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[18:22] <tomek> thanks a lot, I will consult the rest of the team and talk to you if they get excited with launchpad too@ |
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[18:22] <tomek> bye! |
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[18:54] <ubotu> New bug: #191623 in malone "Launchpad should import statuses from Savannah bugs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191623 |
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[18:54] <ubotu> New bug: #191624 in malone "Launchpad should import importances from Savannah bugs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191624 |
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[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #191639 in malone "Bug status transitions should be recorded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191639 |
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[19:05] <pochu> Can I subscribe to 3 bugs in a row? |
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[19:06] <pochu> ubotu: subscribe 1234 ! |
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[19:06] <pochu> ^ that would be cool |
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[19:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191648 in malone "Launchpad bugs should have an aging report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191648 |
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[20:16] <ubotu> New bug: #191666 in soyuz "PPA: Delay before packages appear in build queue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191666 |
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[21:19] <Sam__> Hi Launchpad team, I was interested in trying out the Launchpad translation facility for my project, but my translation file has been in the import queue for 7 days now. Can you help? |
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[21:50] <seb128_> hi |
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[21:51] <seb128_> is there a way to know what ubuntu task has a watch on a determined upstream url? |
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[21:55] <Fujitsu> seb128_: A URL like https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/mozilla-bugs/375591 will take you to the Launchpad bug that references #375591 in Mozilla Bugzilla. |
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[21:55] <seb128_> Fujitsu: thanks |
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[22:05] <tomek> have a good valentines :) |
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[22:23] <Seq> Hello. If a team creates a PPA, can any team member upload to that PPA, or is there a way to limit it to a certain few? |
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[22:24] <lifeless> Seq: the team defines write access, anyone can read |
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[22:24] <lifeless> Seq: so no, you can't have team A's ppa only written to by team B. |
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[22:26] <Seq> lifeless: well it's just one team. I just created one and have had two users request membership. I want them to be involved, but don't want them to be able to upload to the PPA until there is a certain level of trust. |
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[22:26] <lifeless> Seq: sounds like you equate 'involved' with 'team membership' |
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[22:27] <lifeless> Seq: what ubuntu does is have various teams for graduated trust |
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[22:32] <Seq> lifeless: ahh, I see. so you'd have Blah-members and Blah-community |
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[22:33] <lifeless> yes, *if* you need to grant some permissions (like bug triage) to some people, and others (like ppa's) to other people |
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[22:33] <Seq> lifeless: i'm not neccessarily equating involved with membership, but I don't want them to mistake "rejected membership" for "rejected participation" |
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[22:34] <lifeless> fair enough |
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[22:34] <Seq> lifeless: i'll keep that in mind in the future. I'll probably just talk to them beforehand and explain the issue. I'm sure they'll understand |
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[22:34] <Seq> Thanks! |
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[23:00] <jml> Hey guys. |
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[23:00] <jml> Looks like my linode server is down :( |
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[23:07] <soren> People still use linode servers? |
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[23:07] <soren> Are those still uml based? |
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[23:10] <jml> soren: no idea |
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[23:11] <soren> *shrug* |
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[23:11] <jml> soren: what do the cool kids use? |
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[23:11] <jml> instead of linode, that is. |
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[23:11] <soren> I've got an actual server hosted somewhere. It's not the pricey anymore at all. |
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[23:12] <soren> Of course linodes are probably way cheaper now than when I look at them last (3-4 years ago). |
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[23:12] <jml> :) |
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[23:13] <soren> For €59 I get a Dual core 2.8GHz box, unlimited traffic, 100 Mbit/s, 4 GB RAM, 800 GB disk. I could fit a lot of linodes on one of those :) |
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[23:21] <ubotu> New bug: #191701 in launchpad "build stuck in pending state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191701 |
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[23:26] <spiv> soren: you can get a linode for 20 USD. For that price it's only 360 MB RAM and 10 GB storage, but that's plenty for what I need. |
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[23:29] <spiv> soren: (and they are still UML based I think, although they are beta testing Xen) |
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[23:29] <soren> spiv: Yes, I just found that out, too. |
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[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #191703 in launchpad "ppa overview page doesn't make failed archive visible" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191703 |
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[23:46] <steveire> Hi I'm still confused about version numbering in my ppa. I've named the package 1.1.10-1ubuntu1~ppa1. That should be upgraded if a new version of libxine appears in -backports. Is that what will happen with the current version name |
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