| [00:00] <ubotu> New bug: #189772 in mesa-utils (main) "[hardy] glxinfo uses 100% CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189772 | |
| [00:05] <ubotu> New bug: #150638 in linux-source-2.6.22 "framebuffer mode results in black screen starting with kernel 2.6.22-13-generic (dup-of: 129910)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150638 | |
| [02:49] <ubotu> New bug: #183869 in xorg-server (main) "mouse is not working after upgrading to hardy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183869 | |
| [07:22] <tjaalton> bryce: whoa, you closed a couple of intel bugs :) | |
| [07:23] <bryce> :-) | |
| [07:24] <bryce> tjaalton: halfway to my goal of reducing -intel to <100 bugs | |
| [07:25] <tjaalton> I guess there are a lot of bugs on drivers which should really be against mesa | |
| [07:26] <tjaalton> DRI, 3D etc | |
| [07:26] <bryce> could be | |
| [07:26] <bryce> it's interesting how much easier it is working on bugs once they're cataloged properly | |
| [07:27] <tjaalton> right | |
| [07:27] <bryce> so like today since I'd finished with New, I just focused on bugs marked 'Incomplete' | |
| [07:28] <bryce> next time I'll focus on the confirmed ones and get them upstreamed | |
| [07:28] <tjaalton> or ask to try with hardy | |
| [07:28] <bryce> I did that a lot today | |
| [07:28] <tjaalton> yeah | |
| [07:28] <bryce> it was interesting just how large a portion of the bugs were plain old out of date | |
| [07:30] <bryce> sort of makes me think how unproductive a lot of the bug reporting efforts are - the bug report never gets seen upstream, yet the issue got fixed anyway, so the effort of reporting the bug merely generated work, with no benefit. | |
| [07:30] <bryce> not really their fault though of course | |
| [07:31] <tjaalton> I think our documentation should be changed to use 'lspci -nn | grep VGA', which should be enough. -vvnn creates too much noise | |
| [07:32] <tjaalton> thats partly because there are too many bugs open | |
| [07:32] <tjaalton> ..still | |
| [07:32] <tjaalton> so if we only had those that we are certain about, it would be easier to identify new ones and forward upstream | |
| [07:34] <bryce> yup | |
| [07:36] <tjaalton> having a release biannually doesn't really help :P | |
| [07:37] <bryce> in any case, I feel like we're making good progress with them | |
| [07:38] <bryce> I'd like to get to a point where I can focus on creating fixes more than just managing bug loads | |
| [07:57] <tjaalton> a reasonable goal indeed :) | |
| [07:58] <tjaalton> yay, we are below 1600 bugs (1580) | |
| [07:59] <bryce> nice; where is that totaled? | |
| [07:59] <tjaalton> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+packagebugs | |
| [07:59] <tjaalton> that's my start page when triaging | |
| [08:01] <tjaalton> bbl | |
| [08:01] <bryce> ah cool | |
| [08:02] <bryce> looks like most bugs are in lrm | |
| [08:52] <tjaalton> yeah :/ | |
| [08:53] <tjaalton> ati needs a cleanup as well | |
| [08:53] <tjaalton> maybe I should put the BTFH hat on and start bashing :P | |
| [09:12] <bryce> hehe :-) | |
| [09:19] <tjaalton> bryce: did you notice my comment about the bug list you showed me? only one of them has been tested against the ~latest driver, and the rest should be fixed according to upstream (I actually closed some of them) | |
| [09:19] <tjaalton> this was about intel vs. i810 | |
| [09:20] <bryce> oh cool, no I missed that | |
| [09:20] <tjaalton> so it looks like i810 could be dropped IMHO | |
| [09:20] <bryce> was that this page? http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/qa-hardy-list-archive/sort-by-package/current-buglist.html | |
| [09:21] <tjaalton> 12:04 < bryce> 114331 135093 147189 157610 16887 131972 and probably others | |
| [09:21] <tjaalton> nope, that :) | |
| [09:21] <bryce> ahh | |
| [09:22] <tjaalton> 147189 is the one that seems to be valid now, and I forwared it upstream | |
| [09:23] <bryce> ok | |
| [09:24] <bryce> there were some more 8xx ones I looked at in doing the triage today. I don't remember whether I asked for them to be re-tested or if they looked legit | |
| [09:26] <bryce> but yeah, I think we're getting close to being ready to deprecate it | |
| [09:26] <tjaalton> I asked Shaun (147189) to try the latest driver | |
| [09:27] <tjaalton> since it seems that the past week there has been some changes that should fix issues with i830 | |
| [09:38] <Ng> ooh, new -intel this morning :) | |
| [09:38] <bryce> heya Ng | |
| [09:38] <Ng> hey hey :) | |
| [09:39] <Ng> how evil am I for using EXA, greedy migration and "ExaNoComposite" "false"? | |
| [09:39] <Ng> seems to make EXA as nippy as XAA | |
| [09:40] <tjaalton> for me just the greedy stuff is enough (965) | |
| [09:40] <tjaalton> bryce: we actually toyed with the idea to use EXA only for 965 and use greedy :) | |
| [09:40] <tjaalton> this was on #ubuntu-desktop yesterday | |
| [09:44] <bryce> not a bad idea actually | |
| [09:46] <tjaalton> and XAA for the rest | |
| [09:46] <tjaalton> I'm not sure if it's doable, but.. | |
| [09:47] <bryce> yeah, I was wondering if that's feasible myself | |
| [09:48] <bryce> bedtime... night | |
| [09:48] <tjaalton> greedy makes it use CPU more, so I haven't tried what happens to the battery lifetime | |
| [09:48] <tjaalton> night! | |
| [09:48] <Ng> hmm | |
| [09:48] <Ng> there's something odd about the new driver | |
| [09:49] <tjaalton> Ng: oh? describe | |
| [09:49] <Ng> tjaalton: it's quite hard to describe, but things like the fading in of menus is more like a flicker | |
| [09:49] <Ng> and it almost seems like colours are made up of 8bit gif dithering | |
| [09:50] <tjaalton> hmm | |
| [09:51] <tjaalton> Ng: you had 945? | |
| [09:51] <Ng> nah this is 855 | |
| [09:51] <tjaalton> ah ok | |
| [09:53] <Ng> gonna try pulling out those options | |
| [09:53] <Ng> it's possible my eyes have just gone funny ;) | |
| [09:54] <Ng> no, that didn't help :/ | |
| [09:58] <Ng> going back to XAA doesn't seem to have helped either | |
| [09:59] <tjaalton> ok, so it seems like a regression then | |
| [10:02] <Ng> a pretty hard one to describe, but for example glxgears - the green gear looks like it alternates between light green dots and dark green dots instead of all of the pixels being a uniform green | |
| [10:04] <Ng> I should still have the old package, I'll give that a try again just to be sure I'm not mad | |
| [10:04] <tjaalton> hehe | |
| [10:06] <Ng> nope, definitely not mad :) | |
| [10:06] <Ng> 2:2.2.0+git20080107-1ubuntu2 is better | |
| [10:07] <jcristau> should be pretty easy to bisect then | |
| [10:07] <tjaalton> yes, since that version had all the commits up to ~Jan 31. | |
| [10:14] <Ng> filed as #189868 | |
| [10:15] <tjaalton> thanks | |
| [10:37] <tjaalton> looks like the only possible commit which broke this is "Allow non-strict free order for bo_list" a70b59bd44d14e77c9e522dbe225b62a8bcf3050 | |
| [10:48] <Ng> tjaalton: I'd be happy to test a build without that :) | |
| [10:48] <jcristau> Ng: git-revert a70b59bd; make :) | |
| [10:51] <tjaalton> Ng: I'll reply to the bug, 'patch -R < foo' should work too :) | |
| [11:01] <tjaalton> yeah, menus work fine on my 965 | |
| [11:17] <ubotu> New bug: #189863 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[Hardy]Window borders are not drawn using fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189863 | |
| [11:17] <ubotu> New bug: #189868 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "regression in 2.2.0.90-2ubuntu2 on i855GM" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189868 | |
| [11:44] <Ng> bah, wgetting that git link downoads 30kb of html | |
| [11:44] <tjaalton> hmm? not here | |
| [11:45] <Ng> in a browser I get a patch | |
| [11:45] <tjaalton> 928 bytes | |
| [11:46] <Ng> this is a patch to i830_memory.c, right? | |
| [11:47] <tjaalton> yes | |
| [11:47] <Ng> it's not reverse applying cleanly. just looking at why | |
| [11:48] <tjaalton> it's not that huge either, so you can just edit by hand if all else fails :) | |
| [11:50] <Ng> I sure wish patch could tell me why though | |
| [11:53] * Ng shrugs. visual inspections suggest I reverted it by hand fine, but the patch still doesn't apply. gonna build it and see what happens ;) | |
| [12:00] <Ng> tjaalton: nope, still doing it without that patch, afaics | |
| [12:00] <tjaalton> bah | |
| [12:08] <tjaalton> Ng: look at the commits since the one 13 days ago, list found here http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel.git;a=shortlog;h=xf86-video-intel-2.2-branch | |
| [12:08] <tjaalton> and apply one at a time on top of the working driver | |
| [12:08] <tjaalton> but I guess you don't have the sources anymore? | |
| [12:10] <tjaalton> you can find it here: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg | |
| [12:11] <Ng> cool, ta | |
| [13:36] <seb128> is there a known bug about middle click events being duplicates sometimes on hardy? | |
| [15:01] <tjaalton> I don't remember seeing one | |
| [17:15] <ubotu> New bug: #189969 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Newest revision (2.2.0.90-2ubuntu2) leaves garbage on screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189969 | |
| [17:16] <Ng> interesting | |
| [17:16] <Ng> that's 855 | |
| [17:17] <Ng> it's very distressing how many variants there are of each model. I've never seen anything remotely like that bug ;/ | |
| [17:35] <tjaalton> could be the same commit that causes the breakage | |
| [17:41] <tjaalton> Ng: even more important for you to find out which commit broke it :) | |
| [17:48] <Ng> tjaalton: yeah, I'll try and work through the patches this weekend | |
| [17:48] <tjaalton> hmm, I could forward it upstream in the meantime | |
| [18:21] <tjaalton> done | |
| [18:33] <Ng> cool, thanks | |
| [18:36] <ubotu> New bug: #36625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "can't remove nvidia-glx" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36625 | |
| [19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #22297 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "no icon for nvidia settings in gnome menu (dup-of: 44897)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22297 | |
| [19:36] <tjaalton> \o/ the only remaining bug regarding i830 is fixed with 2.2.0.90 | |
| [19:36] <tjaalton> so now we only have the regression with 855 :) | |
| [19:36] <bryce> whoohoo | |
| [19:37] <tjaalton> so, we could drop -i810 with 2.2.1 final | |
| [19:37] <tjaalton> I don't think it's of much value anymore, unless someone really insists on using xinerama | |
| [19:38] <tjaalton> going through lrm bugs btw.. man, there are plenty | |
| [19:39] <bryce> yeah | |
| [19:40] <bryce> when I was looking at fglrx the other day, I just searched on "fglrx" so I could focus on just that subset | |
| [19:40] <tjaalton> the good thing is that many bugs are marked against many lrm versions, so it's trivial to mark wontfix the old ones | |
| [19:40] <bryce> yup | |
| [19:41] <tjaalton> bug 36625 might have the information needed to finally fix the nvidia/fglrx uninstall issues.. | |
| [19:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 36625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "can't remove nvidia-glx" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36625 | |
| [19:41] <tjaalton> (bumped the version, was against 2.6.17) | |
| [19:43] <tjaalton> seems like if mesa has been updated or tried another revision of the driver, this could happen | |
| [19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #190004 in xf86-input-evtouch (universe) "Please merge xf86-input-evdev 0.8.7-3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190004 | |
| [19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #54335 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx should contain install instructions" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54335 | |
| [19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #54966 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "nvidia-glx boasts unnecessary dependencies" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54966 | |
| [19:58] <bryce> yeah | |
| [19:58] <bryce> after FF I want to really hammer on some bugs - hopefully I'll have this xrandr gui done by then! | |
| [20:00] <bryce> there's been a lot of people coming to us about keyboard and mouse problems... makes me think we need to look into that more seriously | |
| [20:02] <ubotu> New bug: #22255 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Potential deadlock when the connection to the AP is lost?" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22255 | |
| [20:02] <tjaalton> we should switch to input-hotplug (=evdev).. :) | |
| [20:03] <tjaalton> ie. waiting for gravity | |
| [20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #48276 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "iwlist can make network tools unusable when it crash" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48276 | |
| [22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #158317 in compiz (main) "Random screen flicker on Dell Inspiron 9400 (dup-of: 164589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158317 | |
| [22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #160747 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Random black frames (screen flickering) #7.10 (dup-of: 164589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160747 | |
| [23:15] <ubotu> New bug: #34017 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Include nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34017 | |
| [23:35] <ubotu> New bug: #39082 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "nVidia driver in dapper API mismatch" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39082 | |
| [23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #126251 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "nvidia-settings menu item missing (dup-of: 44897)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126251 | |
| [23:57] <ubotu> New bug: #149204 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy] Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149204 | |