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[07:39] <dholbach> good morning |
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[15:17] <smagoun> moblin-applets in hardy depends on libhildon1>=2.0.1, which isn't in hardy (hardy instead has libhildon-1-0. That dependency isn't explicit in the debian/control file, so presumably a builder did the wrong thing? What's the right way to fix? |
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[15:46] <patm> Fenario, let me know if you get my swap day request, it complained when I submitted it |
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[16:02] <smagoun> StevenK: ^^^^^^ it's only 0300 there, why aren't you still at work?? :P |
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[16:29] <smagoun> Mithrandir: ^^^^ re: moblin-applets |
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[16:48] <ComradeHaz> Hi gents. I trust I'm right in my belief ubuntu-mobiles not made it onto the HTC tytn II aka Kaiser aka AT&T Tilt |
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[16:48] <ComradeHaz> ?? |
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[17:34] <amitk> ComradeHaz: you are correct |
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[17:36] <ComradeHaz> ta |
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[17:36] <ComradeHaz> sucks to be right ;) |
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[17:42] <amitk> heh |
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[17:57] <d4ri0> does a phone stack mostly use AT commands over a serial port? |
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[18:06] <Mithrandir> smagoun: file a bug; we need to adjust the shlibs and rebuild moblin-applets. |
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[18:21] <smagoun> Mithrandir: thanks, I'll file a bug. The problem's actually in libhildon's rules file, I guess that's worth a bug too. |
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[18:23] <ChickenCutlass> Mithrandir, Do you think it is ok to add an entry in NetworkManager's dbus config to allow the user ume access? |
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[18:24] <ChickenCutlass> Mithrandir, By doing so it fixes the nm-applet bug we talked about last week |
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[18:38] <raji> tonyespy, you there? |
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[18:40] <raji> tonyespy_, you there? |
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[18:40] <tonyespy_> raji: yes |
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[18:40] <raji> tonyespy_, how did the testing go with marvel v9 driver? |
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[18:42] <tonyespy_> raji: I didn't get much further... right now I'm trying to get our modified network-manager and nm-applet into the mobile ppa for hardy |
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[18:42] <raji> tonyespy_, I see , then I will test that today.. |
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[18:43] <tonyespy_> raji: test the v9 driver? |
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[18:43] <tonyespy_> raji: on gutsy? |
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[18:43] <raji> tonyespy_,yes |
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[18:43] <raji> tonyespy_, yes |
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[18:44] <tonyespy_> raji: OK... |
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[18:45] <tonyespy_> raji: FYI, we're trying to switch to Hardy this week and it appears the v9 drivers aren't in Hardy. I just cc'd you on an email to robr and crew... |
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[18:46] <raji> tonyespy_, Another question, while rootcausing the 'create new network', I see that iw_set_ext in nm_device_802_11_wireless_set_mode is returning error, I used wext driver option for wpa_supplicant, |
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[18:46] <raji> tonyespy_,ok |
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[18:46] <tonyespy_> raji: with v8 or v9? |
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[18:47] <raji> tonyespy_ with ath_pci |
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[18:47] <tonyespy_> raji: that's the name of the module, not the version |
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[18:48] <tonyespy_> if you're using v8, you have to use the marvell-specific driver module in wpa_supplicant |
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[18:48] <tonyespy_> I'm not sure it's worh testing with v8 |
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[18:50] <raji> tonyespy_, I am testing with ath_pci on my samsung q1 ,not on our release hardware menlow... |
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[18:51] <raji> tonyesp_, it is ath_pci 0.9 |
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[18:51] <tonyespy_> raji: Oh... ath_pci is the low-level module of the madwifi stack. madwifi has very poor support for adhoc, so you probably won't get too far. |
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[18:52] <tonyespy_> raji: you have to manually switch the mode of the driver from infrastructure to adhoc-demo |
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[18:52] <tonyespy_> raji: even then it may not play with other non-Atheros wifi cards |
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[18:52] <raji> tonyespy_, I changed the wireless interface to use adhoc mode and changed the code to use 'wext' instead of madwifi |
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[18:52] <tonyespy_> raji: you would be *much* better off trying to test using the v9 driver on a crown beach... |
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[18:53] <tonyespy_> raji: I'm pretty sure "adhoc" mode doesn't work, however the separate "adhoc-demo" mode does.... |
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[18:53] <raji> tonyespy_, I am not aware of that 'adhoc_demo', is it a mode |
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[18:54] <tonyespy_> raji: I haven't worked with madwifi for awhile... so most of this is from what I recall on the madwifi mailing list. |
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[18:55] <raji> tonyespy_ will try that on crown beach.. |
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[18:55] <tonyespy_> raji: again, I think you're better off working with the Marvell / Crown beach combination cause that's what our customers will be using. adhoc is tied very tightly to the driver being used. |
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[18:56] <tonyespy_> raji: keep me posted |
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[18:57] <raji> tonyespy_, another question , networkmanager 0.6.5 dont have ability to configure static ip , is it worth trying to root cause this as it anyway fails in the stage 5 |
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[18:59] <tonyespy_> raji: right now, there's no plan to do anymore work on nm 0.6.5. If I were testing adhoc, I'd do so first without NM or wpa_supplicant and just try and use iwconfig/iwpriv, etc... |
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[18:59] <tonyespy_> raji: I'm not even sure adhoc works for *any* drivers in 0.6.5. |
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[19:02] <raji> tonyespy_, 0.6.5 doesnt support adhoc with 'any' driver, then I can just make sure if driver supports it or not . |
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[19:03] <raji> tonyespy_, ok , I will try it on crownbeach and see what happens..I will let you know.. |
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[19:04] <tonyespy_> raji: correct. If the driver doesn't support it, then it's pointless to try it with NM and wpa_supplicant. Good luck! |
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[20:04] <d4ri0> raji: 'ahdemo' mode is not 802.11 standard so it won't work with other cards unless they support it |
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[20:05] <d4ri0> raji: people like ahdemo (as opposed to ad-hoc) because there are no beacons, and the stations do not need to be associated in order to receive |
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[20:25] <smagoun_> bfiller__: I pushed a fix to bzr, but it doesn't show up on launchpad yet. Do you know if there's supposed to be a delay before my revision shows up on LP? |
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[20:28] <smagoun_> StevenK: Please rebuild libhildon for Hardy to fix LP: 189041 |
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[20:30] <bfiller__> smagoun_: yes, there will be a slight delay |
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[20:31] <bfiller__> StevenK: please build hildon-desktop as well as the patches are done |
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[20:32] <smagoun_> StevenK: Please rebuild moblin-applets too (LP: 189058) |
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[21:44] <StevenK> smagoun, bfiller__: The simplest way is to either push the changes to bzr, and then ping me a lot to upload it, or just tell me what I screwed up and let me fix it. I'll fix libhildon, and wait for it to get published, and then rebuild moblin-applets, and then I'll look at hildon-desktop. |
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[21:46] <smagoun> StevenK: I pushed the libhildon change to bzr already, it just needs uploading |
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[21:47] <StevenK> smagoun: I saw that, thanks so much. |
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[21:47] <StevenK> smagoun: And to answer your implied question about your push not showing up on Launchpad, it does take a little while to appear. |
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[21:47] <smagoun> StevenK: I can give you a .dsc or a debdiff for the moblin-applets rebuild. I wasn't sure whether it's easier for you to use one of those or just do the rebuild yourself. |
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[21:48] <smagoun> StevenK: thanks. I figured it out after a couple minutes of F5F5F5F5 :) |
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[21:49] <StevenK> smagoun: To be completly honest, it's very easy to trigger a rebuild (it's only a new changelog entry), so I'll just fix it. |
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[21:49] <smagoun> ok, that's what I figured |
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[21:49] <StevenK> smagoun: Maybe we want to think about putting moblin-applets into bzr? |
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[21:50] <smagoun> StevenK: we could do that, sure. |
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[21:51] <StevenK> smagoun: Right, libhildon uploaded. It will take until :04 or so to show up as published, and then another publisher cycle for the binaries. I have to wait until that publisher run is done before uploading moblin-applets or hildon-desktop. |
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[21:52] <smagoun> StevenK: thanks much. Our nightly build will pick up the changes automatically at about 0800UTC |
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[21:52] <StevenK> smagoun: About moblin-applets, let's play wait and see -- see how much stuff we need to change in it, and how much work we have to do together on it. |
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[21:53] <StevenK> smagoun: At 0800UTC I should have all three (and *hopefully* libosso) sorted out. |
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[21:53] <smagoun> ok, that works too. We're fine working with patches for now. |
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[21:54] * StevenK kicks tomboy. |
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[22:09] <smagoun> StevenK: BTW I filed bug 189058 for the moblin-applets rebuild |
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[22:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 189058 in moblin-applets "Rebuild moblin-applets to fix bad libhildon dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189058 |
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[22:10] <bfiller__> StevenK: for some reason, debuild still fails even after fetching fresh hildon-desktop unless I use -i.bzr. What can I do to fix this? |
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[22:10] <bfiller__> StevenK: did I forget to commit something? |
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[22:12] <StevenK> bfiller__: No, the reason it fails is because it can't represent the changes to the files under .bzr |
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[22:13] <bfiller__> StevenK: how do I fix that? |
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[22:13] <StevenK> bfiller__: Export it from bzr as opposed to pulling -- you won't be able to push things into bzr from that one, but you won't have to add -i.bzr |
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[22:15] <bfiller__> StevenK: ok, thanks |
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[22:22] <Mithrandir> ChickenCutlass_: no, we should fix it so that when the desktop session starts, pam_foreground knows you're on the console. |
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[22:24] <StevenK> smagoun: Still around? |
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[22:24] <smagoun> StevenK: yup |
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[22:25] <StevenK> smagoun: Can you check git for m-i-c and see if fsets for m{ccaslin,enlow}-hardy-whatever still mention moblin-chat? |
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[22:26] <smagoun> StevenK: Only the mccaslin-lpia and menlow-lpia fsets mention moblin-chat. I think this is correct. |
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[22:27] <StevenK> Sounds good to me. |
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[22:27] <StevenK> smagoun: When did you want to get the new m-i-c into Hardy? |
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[22:28] <StevenK> smagoun: I have to upload it to fix mccaslin (since I'm a bozo), but if you're ready for the new shiny upstream, we can push that in. |
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[22:29] <smagoun> StevenK: anytime. I expect it might need to be coordinated with Mithrandir; I don't know how the nightly build gets its MIC, and the configs changed incompatibly at some point recently. |
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[22:29] <smagoun> nightly build=the Ubuntu nightly; we have our MIC built for gutsy here |
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[22:30] <smagoun> StevenK: If you want to push your fix now we can deal with shiny upstream later on. I don't want to lose out on MOTU points though! :) |
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[22:33] <StevenK> smagoun: Right, I've pushed my fix. |
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[22:40] <smagoun> StevenK: OK. What was your fix? do I need to redo the 0.40 package? |
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[22:40] <StevenK> smagoun: My fix was to take the changes I made for menlow's fsets to the mccaslin fset. |
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[22:40] <StevenK> smagoun: Which was in the diff I sent you |
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[22:41] <smagoun> ok, I think I pushed those into all the fsets save the moblin ones for 0.40, so we should be all set. |
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[22:43] <StevenK> Yay! |
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[22:44] <smagoun> StevenK: I'm heading home, send me email if you need anything |
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