| === Toma-- is now known as Toma- | |
| [02:28] <JohnC> Hi all | |
| [02:39] <JohnC> can anyone help me to get started? | |
| [02:39] <JohnC> i'm kinda lost atm | |
| [02:39] <Toma-> started with what? | |
| [02:40] <JohnC> welll i've joined groups and what not, launchpad, etc | |
| [02:40] <JohnC> but how do i actually get involved with designing artwork? | |
| [02:41] <Toma-> design something, add it to the wiki, spam it on the mailing list or in here | |
| [02:41] <Toma-> thats one approach | |
| [02:41] <JohnC> lol ok | |
| [02:41] <Toma-> constructive criticism on the mailing list is another good one | |
| [02:41] <Toma-> but its alot more productive to actually do some work than point out small problems | |
| [02:41] <JohnC> my wiki won't seem to save personal settings | |
| [02:41] <JohnC> its taking 4eva | |
| [02:42] <JohnC> yeh i want to do work | |
| [02:43] <JohnC> but i don't know where to start, how to view where the current theme is headed and add to it? Where can i see the most recent artwork? | |
| [03:44] <nothlit> yeah the personal settings, they're incredibly laggy-- if its not important just leave it alone | |
| [04:17] <troy_s> JohnC: What are youlooking for? | |
| [04:17] <JohnC> i'm not sure exactly, i just don't know where to look or where to contribute | |
| [04:18] <JohnC> or where to see what way the project is headed, is there a color pallette for all to use or anything like that? | |
| [04:18] <troy_s> JohnC: there is no contribution. there never has been really. occasionally for one reason or another a tidbit gets integrated with random decisiveness. | |
| [04:18] <troy_s> JohnC: Nope. Nothing. | |
| [04:18] <JohnC> oh so its sort of just here's a suggestion use it if you want | |
| [04:18] <troy_s> JohnC: Not even that. | |
| [04:18] <JohnC> well whats the point of i tall | |
| [04:18] <troy_s> JohnC: There isn't one. | |
| [04:19] <JohnC> it* all* | |
| [04:19] <JohnC> lol | |
| [04:19] <JohnC> ridiculous | |
| [04:19] <troy_s> JohnC: It is what it is. | |
| [04:19] <troy_s> JohnC: Truth be told, there is _some_ point to it -- occasionally you will bump into an individual or what not that you might spawn some sort of creative relationship with. | |
| [04:19] <JohnC> i see | |
| [04:20] <troy_s> JohnC: The reality is that it is a highly coveted distribution from the hierarchy at the top of Canonical. The 'need' isn't exactly there. | |
| [04:21] <JohnC> yeh | |
| [04:21] <troy_s> JohnC: And from a community standpoint, there still exists the inability to deal with fundamental design principles and concepts. | |
| [04:21] <troy_s> JohnC: All in all, more or less the same state of affairs across FOSS. | |
| [04:22] <JohnC> it would just be nice if there was a system where canonical gives out a template of all the things it needs then designers put in a sample and a few are selected to do the artwork for the entire OS or something like that | |
| [04:23] <troy_s> JohnC: Canonical is no more enlightened than the bulk of the community when it comes to the complexities of art and design. | |
| [04:24] <troy_s> JohnC: It would seem logical that process is a critical element, but to be honest, the current state of affairs would dictate that it falls in around 67th important factor. | |
| [04:24] <troy_s> JohnC: With art and design 101 probably falling in first. | |
| [04:24] <troy_s> JohnC: Maybe even a precursory high-school study in art and design instead of 101. ;) | |
| [04:25] <JohnC> haha | |
| [04:25] <JohnC> well is anyone interested in my work? | |
| [04:26] <troy_s> JohnC: I might be. Link to your work? | |
| [04:26] <JohnC> http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6747/wall1md6.jpg | |
| [04:26] <JohnC> i've only done one thing so far | |
| [04:26] <JohnC> i only just got on 2day | |
| [04:26] <JohnC> its a draft too | |
| [04:26] <troy_s> JohnC: Hrm... | |
| [04:27] <JohnC> i didn't try to do anything special i've only just started it as a concept, meh its a waste of time tho right? | |
| [04:27] <JohnC> i'm used to doing different stuff tho | |
| [04:27] <troy_s> JohnC: Nothing ever is a waste of time. | |
| [04:27] <troy_s> JohnC: At the very least, doing leads to learning. | |
| [04:27] <JohnC> http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8849/originalyx2.png | |
| [04:28] <JohnC> this is stuff like i normally do | |
| [04:28] <troy_s> JohnC: What are you seeking? | |
| [04:29] <JohnC> i just think ubuntu and similar open source OS are great, i just wanted to get involved | |
| [04:29] <JohnC> i'm just a student in Nanotechnology who does graphics in his spare time | |
| [04:30] <troy_s> JohnC: Interesting. | |
| [04:31] <JohnC> was that graphic any good? | |
| [04:32] <JohnC> it would be nice to know if i am any good at design from someone who knows what they are talking about | |
| [04:33] <troy_s> JohnC: Well you certainly don't have the right guy if you are looking for someone who knows what they are talking about. | |
| [04:33] <JohnC> hahaha | |
| [04:33] <JohnC> well did u like it then? | |
| [04:34] <troy_s> JohnC: Which one? | |
| [04:34] <troy_s> JohnC: The wallpaper? | |
| [04:34] <JohnC> either | |
| [04:35] <troy_s> JohnC: I am not a fan of branding. | |
| [04:36] <troy_s> JohnC: Both works seem to also suffer from a need for a more carefully considered tonal range or palette. Some fundamental colour theory might help? | |
| [04:36] <JohnC> branding? | |
| [04:36] <troy_s> JohnC: The Ubuntu logo in this case. Also, compositionally, I believe the works could be elevated with a little more formal knowledge. | |
| [04:37] <JohnC> well i just do it for fun | |
| [04:37] <JohnC> i'm not planning to do a course in it or anything | |
| [04:38] <troy_s> JohnC: Even a brief look at wikipedia might help with some of the more familiar concepts of classical composition. | |
| [04:39] <JohnC> ok | |
| [04:39] <JohnC> thanks | |
| [04:39] <troy_s> JohnC: Nice chatting with you. | |
| [11:30] <elwo0d> hi all | |
| [15:25] <kwwii> ok, time to answer emails | |
| [15:25] <kwwii> btw, I pushed some updates to the simplified icons | |
| [15:25] <kwwii> I think that we should go with the simple 2D version for now, perhaps looking into the etched stuff in the future, once we have the basic shapes figured out | |
| [15:26] <kwwii> anyway, the simple 2D stuff will match the text which is already on the panel | |
| [18:25] <kwwii> _MMA_: you have sponsorship for the next UDS? | |
| === luisbg_ is now known as luisbg | |