2008/01/27/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:01] <emet> Because I was bored
[00:01] <PriceChild> So what happens next time you're bored in #ubuntu?
[00:01] <PriceChild> (if pici lets you back in0
[00:02] <emet> I would be a productive member of the Ubuntu community
[00:02] <PriceChild> next time you get bored you will be a productive member of the ubuntu community....
[00:03] <emet> yes
[00:03] <emet> honestally I don't care if you unban me or not, I just wanted to apologize
[00:45] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[00:45] <ubotu> RequinB4 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[00:45] <Pici> ...
[01:00] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (poodlesucks maybe you can figure out what he's about)
[01:00] <Pici> thats not the first time hes been banned.
[01:01] <Amaranth> What's up with the +z?
[01:01] <Pici> +z means that ops can see what the muted person is writing.
[01:01] <nalioth> Amaranth: ops can hear users when channel is moderated
[01:01] <nalioth> For tips and information on channel and user modes and management, see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml Amaranth
[01:02] <Pici> LjL: switch the banmask around if you want, I was just leaving when I saw the ops message
[01:02] <LjL> banmask is fine
[01:02] <Amaranth> nalioth: I know what +z does
[01:05] <nalioth> Amaranth: than why did you ask?
[01:19] <Seeker`> Perhaps Amaranth wanted to know why it was set in this instance
[01:20] <LjL> the answer to which is, because when i mute someone i'm usually interested in knowing what they say afterwards
[01:25] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, nickrud said: ubotu resetpanels is to reset the panel to defaults, type in a terminal  gconf-tool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel
[01:25] <LjL> !-resetpanel
[01:25] <ubotu> resetpanel aliases: panelreset - added by Pici on 2007-10-30 15:31:33
[01:26] <LjL> !resetpanel is <reply> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconf-tool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel »
[01:26] <ubotu> But resetpanel already means something else!
[01:26] <LjL> !no resetpanel is <reply> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconf-tool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel »
[01:26] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[01:26] <LjL> !resetpanels is <alias> resetpanel
[01:26] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[01:26] <ubotu> In ubotu, nickrud said: resetpanels is to reset the panel to defaults, type in a terminal  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel
[01:26] <crdlb> shouldn't that be gconftool-2 ?
[01:26] <emet> Pici, first time I've been banned
[01:26] <LjL> i'll ask
[01:27] <crdlb> LjL: nm, ubuntu makes a symlink
[01:27] <LjL> !no resetpanel is <reply> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[01:28] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[02:10] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (Furlong45)
[02:10] <Dave2> Amaranth, he's K:lined
[02:11] <Pici> emet: You have shown no indications to me that you wont exhibit such behavior in the future.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> jussi01: yes
[03:52] <emet> Pici, I didn't realise it was a such a serious thing
[03:58] <Pici> emet: You said that since you were bored, you decided to troll the channel.
[03:59] <emet> no, I was trying to be amuzing
[03:59] <emet> it's radically offensive or anything
[04:00] <ZarfPunit> and many hellos
[04:01] <emet> howdy
[04:01] <Pici> emet: Please come back tomorrow and we will discuss your ban.
[04:01] <emet> no keep me banned, I don't care honestally
[04:01] <Pici> ZarfPunit: How can we be of service today?
[04:02] <Pici> emet: Then you are free to leave this channel.
[04:02] <ZarfPunit> what is the difference of installing the OEM and regular
[04:02] <ZarfPunit> i have tried both but i am not in the know
[04:02] <Pici> ZarfPunit: This is #ubuntu-ops, not #ubuntu, did you try to join #ubuntu and was forwarded here?
[04:03] <ZarfPunit> no just surfing
[04:03] <ZarfPunit> ok
[04:03] <emet> ZarfPunit, OEM is for installing it for other people, for instance if you built a computer for someone else
[04:03] <Pici> emet: This is not a support channel.
[04:03] <Pici> !idle
[04:03] <ubotu> Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[04:03] <emet> I'm currently banned from the support channel
[04:03] <ZarfPunit> ahh
[04:04] <ZarfPunit> so ill chill in space gotcha see ya round then
[04:04] <emet> take it easy
[04:05] <Pici> emet: You can't have everything, either we talk about your ban tomorrow and you part here, or you just part and the ban will stand until I prune my bans.
[04:06] <emet> alright, I'll talk to Seveas
[04:07]  * Pici headdesks
[04:38] <jbinder> Hi.
[04:38] <jbinder> I can't find a patch for my router and it won't let me in.
[04:38] <jbinder> I connected to freenode on port 8001
[04:38] <jbinder> And it still won't let me into #ubuntu
[04:47] <nalioth> patience is a virtue
[05:27]  * Aloha waves to kitofhawaii 
[05:29] <kitofhawaii> hey everyone, anyone know if jono's been particularly busy as of late? i think we've sent requests over for the mailing list and haven't gotten a response. also want to confirm how we should handle coc re the issue regarding kah***** and #ubuntu-us-hi for Aloha
[05:33] <Madpilot> I think "jono" and "incredibly busy" tend to go together at all times :)
[05:33] <Aloha> heh
[05:33] <Hobbsee> he's just managed to get back from teh sprint though
[05:33] <Madpilot> kitofhawaii, are you another victim of the great black hole that is rt@ubuntu.com?
[05:34] <kitofhawaii> Madpilot: yah we've sent uhm...three requests in the past month, no response :)
[05:34] <Madpilot> kitofhawaii, I've sent three in the past four months, zero response.
[05:35] <Madpilot> Ubuntu Canada's website has so far taken... about a year to get this far. It's still busted.
[05:35] <kitofhawaii> ah...do we have an alternative to go with? maybe perhaps just use a different mailing list system for the time being maybe
[05:35] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: it's not supposed to always be a hole - you're supposed to get an automated response
[05:35] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, I"ve never even gotten that
[05:36] <Madpilot> kitofhawaii, join the ubuntu-loco mailing list, complain there.
[05:36] <kitofhawaii> yah me neither
[05:36] <kitofhawaii> Madpilot: that's a good idea...bark up some trees :)
[05:37] <Madpilot> For that matter, why the heck is rt in use, when we've got the mightly and glorious Launchpad, co-ordination app to end all co-ordination apps?
[05:38] <kitofhawaii> also we had a question re the whole *problem member* being an issue and a control freak with the group and new members on irc...any good ways of approaching the situation?
[05:39] <Madpilot> sounds like fun
[05:39] <kitofhawaii> oh yah
[05:39] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, would ubuntu-loco be the best place for meta-issues like "what do we do with problem members?" I can't think of another avenue, myself.
[05:41] <Aloha> ubuntu-loco isn't listed on https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Community+Support
[05:43] <Aloha> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-loco
[05:43] <Madpilot> sorry, it's loco-contacts
[05:43] <Madpilot> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
[05:43] <Aloha> thnx
[05:44] <Madpilot> closest thing Ubuntu has to a meta-loco-list
[05:44] <Aloha> what do you mean by meta?
[05:44] <Madpilot> discussion about loco-teams in general, as opposed to discussion by/about a specific loco team
[05:45] <Aloha> gotcha
[05:45] <Aloha> like a list-discuss
[05:46] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[05:46] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[05:46] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[05:46] <Madpilot> and general issues - like actually getting tech support, or dealing with control freaks/unpleasant users/whatever
[05:47] <Aloha> gotcha
[05:48] <Pyro> hello
[05:49] <nalioth> hi Pyro what can we do for you?
[05:49] <Pyro> i was wondering if you could unblock my ip address
[05:49] <nalioth> why is it blocked?
[05:49] <Pyro> i dont know
[05:49] <nalioth> how did you get to #ubuntu-ops ?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: unsure - i suspect LP is so unstable
[05:49] <Pyro> i run a static ip and i just tried to join ubuntu and it said it was banned
[05:49] <Hobbsee> and they get tickets about LP being down
[05:50] <Pyro> i was told to join and ask you by harrisony
[05:50] <Pyro> can it be unbanned?
[05:51] <nalioth> hang on a minute, please  :)
[05:52] <Pyro> thankyou
[05:52] <nalioth> Madpilot: customer
[05:53] <Madpilot> ??
[05:54] <nalioth> Madpilot: you banned pyro on the 16th
[05:54] <Pici> Madpilot: its one of your bans.
[05:54] <Madpilot> given that that was 10 days ago, safe to say I've forgotten it.
[05:54] <Madpilot> one minute, I'll pull the ban
[05:54] <Pyro> thank you
[05:55] <Pici> er
[05:56] <Pyro> do you need ip?
[05:57] <Madpilot> clear
[06:00] <Madpilot> Pyro, I think I got your ban.
[06:00] <Pyro> thanx
[06:02] <Pyro> one more thing.. do you need any mods or admins?
[06:03] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: elky would be the one to ask abotu loco stuff
[06:03] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, true 'nuff. Haven't seen her online in a while, actually.
[06:03] <tritium> Some nights are better than others...
[06:04] <Madpilot> tritium, the willfully dense character currently gracing -offtopic?
[06:04] <tritium> Madpilot: yes
[06:05] <Madpilot> "enough rope to hang himself with"
[06:05] <Madpilot> s/himself/herself as appropriate
[06:05] <tritium> I guess!
[06:06] <Pici> I say we ask him to come in here if he has a problem with the rules, I dont like having policy arugments in 'public' channels.
[06:06] <tritium> Pici is wise.
[06:06] <tritium> I agree.
[06:07] <Madpilot> "enough rope" has been reached
[06:07] <Pici> Up to you, I'm just watching (and hitting my head on my desk)
[06:08] <Madpilot> meh. you can stop bruising your forehead now, Pici :)
[06:08] <Pici> Yay.
[06:08] <Pici> now hes in #ubuntu...
[06:09] <Madpilot> we'll see if he rises to tritium's bait there.
[06:11] <bod_> tritium, so wots this channel for
[06:11] <Pici> Pyro: One does not ask for ops, one is chosen.
[06:11] <tritium> bod_: In this case, it's for moderation.
[06:11] <Pyro> =\
[06:11] <bod_> tritium,.,. ok ,.,. so could u plz explain wot i am not understanding?
[06:12] <tritium> bod_: I have.  You need to stop harassing me about it.
[06:12] <bod_> tritium, if i new the answer,. i wouldnt be asking
[06:12] <Madpilot> Pici, no, one is mad enough to volunteer when asked to. :)
[06:12] <Hobbsee> why is he trying in #launchpad?
[06:12] <tritium> It's rather simple.  #ubuntu is for ubuntu support.  That's why we flag offtopic chit-chat.  It's too busy for that.
[06:13] <bod_> tritium,  i understand that,.,. but i was kicked from off-topic for trying to understand why 3 posts that were posted not expecting a response was ot'd,.,. he knows its ot
[06:14] <tritium> bod_: that was not why you were kicked
[06:14] <bod_> tritium,  lemme guess,.,. trolling and harrasing?
[06:14] <tritium> bod_: speedy's posts were not flagged for offtopic in the first place, anyway
[06:14] <tritium> bod_: I didn't even kick you, I hope you realize
[06:15] <tritium> As I may have been biased by your harassment of me, I refrained from doing so.
[06:15] <bod_> tritium,  i no
[06:16] <tritium> bod_: speedy tried to claim that ONLY the forums were for ubuntu support, and that the channel is NOT.  He was incorrect.
[06:16] <tritium> The channel is, in fact, also for support.
[06:16] <bod_> tritium,  this is stupid,.,. im just gonna apologize and ask for the matter to be forgotten
[06:16]  * jrib thinks that is wise
[06:16] <bod_> lol
[06:16]  * Pici screams
[06:17] <tritium> amazing
[06:17] <Madpilot> bod_, first ban is for 24hrs. Come back tomorrow evening.
[06:17] <bod_> tritium,  apology accepted?
[06:17] <bod_> Madpilot, thankyou
[06:17] <tritium> bod_: sure
[06:18] <bod_> cheers,.,. where can i go for ot stuff for the mean-time?
[06:18] <nalioth> bod_: see what i told you in #ubuntu
[06:19] <bod_> nalioth, ok ta
[06:19] <bod_> c u in #ubuntu tritium
[06:19] <bod_> bye
[06:20] <tritium> Interesting.
[06:32] <danroj> hi
[06:33] <danroj> flood in #ubuntu-es
[06:33] <danroj> by gabo_
[06:51] <kitofhawaii> hey how do you move someone down from access level 30?
[06:51] <Hobbsee> what access do you have?
[06:52] <kitofhawaii> 30
[06:52] <kitofhawaii> and contact :)
[06:52] <kitofhawaii> but chanserv wouldn't let me lower it
[06:52] <kitofhawaii> (for someone else that is)
[06:53] <nalioth> kitofhawaii: are you identified to chanserv ?
[06:54] <kitofhawaii> yes i am, it let me add an op...
[06:54] <kitofhawaii> -ChanServ- [****] matches an access level higher than your own
[06:54] <nalioth> then you should be able to add your level 30 as a level 10
[06:54] <nalioth> kitofhawaii: if you'e getting that, you're not ID'd as chanown
[06:55] <kitofhawaii> hmmn
[06:55] <nalioth> kitofhawaii: /msg CHANSERV help identify
[06:55] <nalioth> kitofhawaii: not nickserv
[06:56] <kitofhawaii> oh! thank you :)
[07:05] <kitofhawaii> ok...and uh...if i need to make a potential hostile takeover of our launchpad page...?
[07:05] <kitofhawaii> is that possible? or should we just abandon the one being used
[07:06] <Madpilot> kitofhawaii, what on earth is going on in your locoteam?
=== _RenaTu is now known as RenaTo
[07:07] <kitofhawaii> Madpilot: the expected has become the has happened :)
[07:08] <Madpilot> hmm? trolls at the loco level?
[07:09] <kitofhawaii> well more just bitter feelings and uh..hot headed attitude..
[07:39] <Aloha> what is the usual course of action for complaints?
=== _RenaTu is now known as RenaTo
[08:08] <RenaTo> tchal para todos - bye for all
[09:31] <jussi01> Just a FYI for anyone who is interested (+ Hobbsee) I had a pm this morning from ardchoille, asking to be removed from #kubuntu-kde4 access list, which I have done.
[09:31] <Hobbsee> jussi01: fair enough
[09:32] <jpatrick> jussi01: well... he's gone.. :(
[09:33] <jussi01> jpatrick: you are back!! :P
[09:33] <jpatrick> jussi01: yes! and not a single ping from those trolls :D
[09:34] <jussi01> :D
[09:48] <jussi01> morning ompaul
[09:49] <ompaul> morning
[09:49] <ompaul> out to breakfast :)
[09:59] <ikonia> morning ompaul
[10:08] <ompaul> actually
[10:08] <ompaul> we have not left yet
[10:09] <ompaul> morning ikonia
[10:09] <ikonia> hey hey morning
[10:09] <ompaul> hey hey my my and into the black!
[10:09] <ikonia> what's going on
[10:10] <ompaul> can you connect my vision ....
[10:10] <ompaul> correct
[10:10] <ompaul> arrr
[10:10] <ikonia> ha ha, not with typing like that
[10:10] <ompaul> can you correct my vision ....
[10:10] <ikonia> not very easily, I'd need to google for the corrections
[10:10] <ompaul> can somebody please tell me what is going on?
[10:11] <ompaul> </rory gallagher>
[10:11] <ikonia> ahhh
[10:11] <ikonia> I don't know all the lyrics
[10:11] <ikonia> clealy you are the master
[11:02] <Gary> the noodley master?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> !ping
[11:37] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[12:10] <jaggz-> The router thing and the DCC page seem like different topics.  What's wrong with my router?
[12:11] <pricechild> Hey there.
[12:11] <jaggz-> hi price child :)
[12:12] <pricechild> jaggz-, basically its trying to interpret something that it really shouldn't be... then dies when it fails.
[12:12] <jaggz-> I can take it.. break the news to me, doc.
[12:13] <jaggz-> (I can handle the details)  :)
[12:13] <pricechild> That's basically it?
[12:13] <pricechild> I'm not the biggest expert on it either.
[12:13] <jaggz-> I join #ubuntu all the time..
[12:13] <pricechild> and its only lately you've been affected.
[12:13] <pricechild> you *were* affected
[12:13] <jaggz-> today (yesterday) I noticed my IP was changed.. my system had logged onto someone else's router!
[12:14] <jaggz-> It's supposed to stay on my own router..  Can I keep it from ever trying another router?
[12:14] <pricechild> jaggz-, wireless?
[12:14] <jaggz-> yeah
[12:14] <pricechild> it won't connect to random networks by default unless you've done it before
[12:14] <pricechild> remove them from gconf (system network blah)
[12:15] <jaggz-> I tried to log into one of my work systems and it forbid me .. took me a few minutes of worry until I tested my IP
[12:15] <jaggz-> yeah, they're not there
[12:15] <pricechild> jaggz-, anyway have you changed onto 8001?
[12:15] <jaggz-> I hibernated the other day
[12:15] <jaggz-> no, I didn't want to change my port just yet
[12:15] <pricechild> jaggz-, you should do it anyway.
[12:15] <Seveas> jaggz-, to remove networks from network-manager, see http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis/2008/01/11/traincoding-network-manager-annoyance/
[12:16] <jaggz-> so you think I was attacked by someone who sent some DCC garbage to me, causing me to flood freenode?
[12:16] <pricechild> jaggz-, no
[12:16] <pricechild> jaggz-, someone would have sent dcc garbage to #ubuntu, it goes to all users.
[12:16] <pricechild> jaggz-, your router was vulnerable and so you got disconnected.
=== Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee
[12:17] <pricechild> jaggz-, lots of people disonnecting = annoying to them and to the channel for spam
[12:19] <jaggz-> Seveas, I'm still at hoary hedgehog for now
[12:19] <Seveas> jaggz-, that's not even supported anymore :)
[12:20] <jaggz-> the network config seems to be different than that discussed at this address.
[12:20] <Seveas> and seriously obsolete, probably vulnerable
[12:20] <Seveas> jaggz-, very much so
[12:20] <jaggz-> I need a new install seriously.. waiting to get these new servers online
[12:21] <jaggz-> okay, I'll change to 8001..  why is 8001 better?  :)
[12:22] <pricechild> jaggz-, because the router won't try and interpret dcc's and fail
[12:24] <jaggz-> you're saying my router is looking at port 6667 as special?
[12:24] <jaggz-> searching on it
[12:24] <jaggz-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client
[12:26] <jaggz-> The DCC SEND exploit is an IRC related bug in some Netgear, Linksys, and d-link routers. Replacing [character argument] with a string of 14 or more characters (not including spaces) will cause users to forcefully disconnect if they are affected. This is likely directly associated with the smart firewalling feature of these routers; disabling it may resolve the issue. This exploit is confined to port 6667, so a temporary fix is to
[12:28] <jaggz-> okay.. well good enough for now
[12:28] <jaggz-> thanks
=== pricechild is now known as PriceChild
[12:42] <rndn> <-- jaggz
[12:43] <Helvasca> Hey Guys...
[12:44] <Helvasca> Anyonearound?
[12:44]  * jussi01 is
[12:44] <stdin> depends on what you want
[12:44] <jussi01> @btlogin
[12:45] <Helvasca> I was a little silly a while ago in #ubuntu, and I was talking to elky, and I was wondering if it possible to get my ban removed...
[12:46] <Helvasca> It wasn't malicious, just asking people to join #trivia, but it still doesn't mean it was right...
[12:47] <elkbuntu> can someone else please? im busy right now
[12:48] <stdin> I don't have access in #u, so someone else needs to
[12:48] <Seveas> Helvasca, we hate spammers
[12:48] <Helvasca> I do too...
[12:48] <Seveas> so why on earth were you spamming?
[12:48] <Helvasca> I don tusually do it, i did it and went... oh crap
[12:49] <Helvasca> I have no idea...
[12:49] <Helvasca> Just a lapse of judgement to be honest.
[12:50] <Seveas> a lapse of judgement that repeated itself
[12:50] <Helvasca> No?
[12:50] <Seveas> came in, spammed, spammed again, left
[12:50] <Seveas> sorry, I don't buy your story at all
[12:52] <Helvasca> did you have a date of the incident, I'm just going to go and have a look at the logs
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:09 *** Helvasca has joined #ubuntu
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:13 <Helvasca> everyone get in #trivia
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:27 <IdleOne> arthur37854: fsck
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:28 <samad909> ikonia: can not be as the network card light isn't even on
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:28 <miline> arthur37854, fsck
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:31 *** misslecommander has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:35 <arthur37854> ty
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:42 * Helvasca is urging everyone to join #trivia
[12:52] <Seveas> 2008-01-16T13:52:43 *** Helvasca (Helvasca!n=greg@unaffiliated/helvasca) has left #ubuntu ()
[12:52] <Seveas> time is UTC+1
[12:52] <Helvasca> k
[12:53] <Helvasca> That was really quite stuipd...
[12:53] <Helvasca> Dont worry about it then.
[12:54] <Helvasca> Ill cop it for a bit longer.
[13:12] <Hobbsee> !ping
[13:12] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[13:38] <Hobbsee> !ping
[13:38] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[13:39] <Hobbsee> !ping
[13:54] <ompaul> !ping
[13:54] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[13:54] <ompaul> !test
[13:54] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:58] <Hobbsee> heh
[13:58] <Hobbsee> hi ompaul
[14:02] <ompaul> Hobbsee, hi
[14:03]  * ompaul is doing stuff around the house and car - mostly the car - it got really shiny about an hour ago - nice guys in one of our larger nearby local shopping centres doing the we clean while you shop
[14:04] <jussi01> ompaul: nice! where'd you go, blanchardstown?
[14:04] <ompaul> I had not cleaned it since I got it 20th Dec and it was filthy
[14:04] <ompaul> jussi01, no Superquinn Lucan
[14:04] <jussi01> ahh, :D
[14:04] <ompaul> brought swmbo for a cuppa and while we sat back it got shiny
[14:05]  * jussi01 envies that the shops are open on sundays...
[14:05] <ompaul> then got some thank you pressies for people for their help with stuff (read wine)
[14:05] <ompaul> then hit a flower shop and got 25 euros worth of temporary dressing up for the front room
[14:06] <jussi01> ompaul: hehe, I know those sort of pressies well :D here though, we substitute the wine for vodka :P
[14:06] <Seveas> ompaul, you've got staff experience, don't you? :)
[14:06] <Seveas> do you know how to drop linked nicks that one forgot the password for?
[14:07] <Dave2> you can /nick to 'em and set the pass
[14:07] <Dave2> or just /nick and drop, I guess
[14:07] <ompaul> Seveas, you don't drop the nick you just reset the pass
[14:07] <ompaul> there is a process
[14:07] <ompaul> they have to have an address linked to a working email address
[14:08] <ompaul> which is why they ask for an email address
[14:08] <ompaul> ehh Seveas pm me
[14:08] <Seveas> ompaul, resetting pass works :)
[14:08] <ompaul> yeap
[14:08] <ompaul> Seveas, you do staff?
[14:08] <Seveas> no
[14:09] <ompaul> I was going to say you don't have the time :P
[14:09] <ompaul> jussi01, we play to the persons wants - i.e. she drinks wine
[14:10] <ompaul> jussi01, for someone else on friday it was wine x4 bottles and cognac - they did a big favour
[14:11] <ompaul> jussi01, the down side of shops open Sunday is that people go shopping
[14:11] <ompaul> ;-)
[14:12] <jussi01> ompaul: hehe
[14:12] <jussi01> Hmmm, is anyone welcome to amend the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat wiki page?
[14:12] <ompaul> jussi01, if they do it right
[14:13] <ompaul> if you understand my drift
[14:13] <Seveas> jussi01, except for trolls
[14:13] <ompaul> jussi01, there are a few people in this channel subscribed to it
[14:14] <jussi01> got you. there is a small error (do we still use ubugtu, and if so, where is the info?), and maybe we need to add #kubuntu-kde4 to the list.
[14:17] <ompaul> jussi01,  no and yes in that order feel free to work it out
[14:17] <jussi01> :)
[14:17] <ompaul> jussi01, ask Seveas if you need details
[14:17] <ompaul> gone shining the inside of the car
[14:17] <ompaul> back in a few mo
[14:22] <jussi01> ok, done. how does that look?
[14:26] <ompaul> jussi01, okay, I gots an idea if you are interested };->
[14:27] <ompaul> change infobots to bots if LJL is interested so we can explain that people get forwarded to some channels if their clients exhibit certain characteristics
[14:28] <ompaul> jussi01, only if LjL approves of it methinks
[14:30] <ompaul> Seveas, would you do an sql query for me - so that I might manage to put together a project to update the bot so it stops saying See also !foo
[14:31] <ompaul> Seveas, so we can do «/msg ubotu foo»
[14:31] <ompaul> Seveas, or do you want to do that in a single line of python albeit a long line of python
[14:31]  * ompaul hides behind Seveas 
[14:33] <ubotu> In ubotu, Stephen-Mason said: which is best?
[14:42] <jussi01> ompaul: sorry, Im making lunch...
[14:43] <ompaul> jussi01, don't be sorry, enjoy it :)
[14:43] <jussi01> ompaul: :)
[15:02] <ompaul> >Metal-maniac-mat< please don't do that in #ubuntu I'll let you back soon
[15:03] <ompaul> no commnet
[15:03] <ompaul> comment that is
[15:10]  * ompaul says nothing 
[15:10] <ompaul> and warms the emp cannon ;-)
[16:37] <Pici> Seveas: ping.
[16:37] <Seveas> Pici, pong
[16:37] <Pici> Were there any config settings you needed to make to ubotu to make it join #ubuntu or any other large channel? I'm having issues doing testing with my supybot.
[16:38] <Seveas> issues such as initial sync taking an awful long time?
[16:38] <Pici> Yes.
[16:38] <Pici> So much so that the bot times out and disconnects.
[16:39] <Seveas> haven't had those
[16:39] <Pici> hrm, I'll have to do some more debugging then.
[16:39] <Pici> Could be one of the superfluous plugins I have loaded.
[16:40] <Seveas> dennis@binaries4all:~/ubotu$ grep -i timeout ubotu.conf
[16:40] <Seveas> # simple driver based on timeout sockets, is used by default because
[16:40] <Seveas> supybot.databases.users.timeoutIdentification: 0
[16:40] <Seveas> # Determines what the default timeout for socket objects will be. This
[16:40] <Seveas> # means that *all* sockets will timeout when this many seconds has gone
[16:40] <Seveas> supybot.defaultSocketTimeout: 20
[16:40]  * Pici looks at his
[16:40] <Seveas> supybot.drivers.module: Socket
[16:41] <Seveas> iirc I had problems with twisted as driver
[16:42] <Pici> Thanks
[17:35] <BHSPitLappy> Seveas, I seem to have lost my way
[17:35] <Seveas> BHSPitLappy, buy a tomtom, garmin or holy bible then
[17:35] <BHSPitLappy> forgive me, brother, for I hath strayed from the path of the CoC, but yea, how I wish to see the light once more
[17:36] <Seveas> BHSPitLappy, before I unban you, why do you have 3 different clients from 3 different locations?
[17:38] <BHSPitLappy> Seveas, Monkey is my desktop, it's nearly always on;  Lappy is my laptop, used transiently when away from the dorm;  iTouch shouldn't have connected.  I must have left the client open on it.
[17:38] <Seveas> fair enough
[17:39] <Seveas> now behave in the future, 'stfu' and 'gtfo' are not welcome, even jokingly
[17:39] <BHSPitLappy> It's easy to forget -offtopic is still under the CoC once in a while
[17:40] <Seveas> bans removed
[17:40] <BHSPitLappy> Thanks.
[17:47] <Pici> Heres a quick test of my bantracker code (mainly to prove to myself that I can cleanly pull stuff out of the databse that I stuck in): http://bnrubin.no-ip.org:8000/log/
[17:48] <Pici> I'm using Django for the database api and html templating.
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[18:26] <ompaul> Pici, ehh you are no longer stuck in a factoid factory and now a django factory ... hmm this is news
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=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
[18:49] <no0tic> Gabriele Postorino espone le slide preparate. L'assemblea esplode in fragorose risate all'ultima slide in cui è presente una foto segnaletica di MefistoRQ con la dicitura "Attenti allo spammone!".
[18:59] <ompaul> no0tic, ?
[18:59] <no0tic> ompaul, sorry, pasted in the wrong channel :(
[19:00] <ompaul> no0tic, I figured as much but wanted you to be able to paste it wherever you needed
[19:00] <no0tic> ompaul, thanks
[19:14] <LjL> wow exploits seem to have become immensely fashionable again
[19:15] <ompaul> LjL, a new batch of l33t kidz?
[19:16] <LjL> maybe, they're possibly born like inferior animals, fish or such, hundred eggs a season :)
[19:16] <Pici> LjL: fyi, the queue idea for the new bantracker seems to be working great so far.
[19:16] <LjL> Pici: you've implemented it?
[19:16] <Pici> http://bnrubin.no-ip.org:8000/log/
[19:17] <Pici> Somewhat, it currently dumps everything to the database when it gets full though, since I havent implemented recording any of the events(kicks,bans,etc)
[19:18] <Pici> I'm trying to get it to log everything before I do the event code.
[19:18] <LjL> Pici: but is this the ubotu code or a separate thing?
[19:18] <Pici> LjL: Completely separate, but using similar ideas.
[19:18] <Pici> I have a plan to integrate the legacy tracker stuff of course.
[19:38] <kbrooks> why is source-o-matic unavailable?
[19:38] <kbrooks> as evidenced by
[19:38] <kbrooks> !source-o-matic
[19:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[19:39] <LjL> kbrooks: obsolete repositories present, mostly superseded by software sources
[19:39] <Seveas> because it's been removed :)
[19:39] <LjL> and the dutchman being lazy
[19:39] <LjL> whops here he is
[19:39] <kbrooks> LjL, ok
[20:02] <jpatrick> what did he do?
[20:03] <nalioth> jpatrick: the network just hung
[20:03] <PriceChild> jpatrick, who?
[20:04] <jpatrick> PriceChild: LjL
[20:04] <PriceChild> ah
[20:11] <Seveaz> fun, services dead?
[20:11] <Seveaz> --- No services can currently be detected
[20:11] <Seveaz> --- No services can currently be detected
[20:11] <Seveaz> --- No services can currently be detected
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[20:13] <Seveas> and no ops in #ubuntu
[20:13] <Seveas> trolltime is upon us...
[20:13] <Seveas> !staff | what happened with nick/chanserv?
[20:13] <jpatrick> Seveaz: yes
[20:13] <crdlb> for the past 8 minutes or so
[20:13] <Gary> Seveaz, yeah, services are down at the mo
[20:13] <ubotu> what happened with nick/chanserv?: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[20:13] <Seveas> lagbotu
[20:14] <jpatrick> Seveas: exactly what I was thinking...
[20:14] <jpatrick> can't the floodbot's op?
[20:15] <Seveas> not without chanserv...
[20:15] <Dave2> We've lost 'em for a bit.
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Jrib.. are you around?
[20:15] <jpatrick> 21:14 ** mode/#kubuntu [+f #ubuntu-unregged] by ChanServ
[20:16] <nalioth> Seveas: netsplit
[20:16] <PriceChild> Weren't the floodbots meant to all +o when they realised chanserv was dying?
[20:16] <PriceChild> oh.... they all died
[20:16] <jpatrick> I think it's back
[20:16] <Seveas> -NickServ- You have already identified
[20:16] <Seveas> -NickServ- You have already identified
[20:16] <Seveas> -NickServ- You have already identified
[20:16] <Seveas> -NickServ- You have already identified
[20:16] <Seveas> -NickServ- You have already identified
[20:16] <Seveas> -NickServ- You have already identified
[20:16] <Seveas> :)
[20:16] <PriceChild> jpatrick, they call you bullet :D
[20:16] <Seveas> I kept trying
[20:17] <jpatrick> PriceChild: er, no they call me Patrick :D
[20:17] <PriceChild> I'm imagining seveas with one of those toys where you have to put the shapes in the right holes.... he's got a circle and just "keeps trying" to put it in the square
[20:18] <Seveas> :))
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: I wanted to thank you for pointing me in the direction of that upstream program.  I found it well written and eash to work with
[20:18] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, I didn't :)
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> You pointed me to jrib I believe..
[20:19] <PriceChild> Nope, not me either.
[20:19]  * PriceChild consumes your thanks before you are able to retract them.
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> If I am mistaken .. then I take it ALL back  :)
[20:19] <PriceChild> too late
[20:19] <jrib> heh
[20:20]  * Seeker` steals PriceChild's thanks, and runs off, giggling
[20:20]  * PriceChild unlocks the emp cannon cabinet, blasts Seeker`, then locks it back up again and swallows the key.
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I wrote a couple modules and now when I run canoe, I can get the system information pasted directly to the pastebin
[20:21] <PriceChild> cool
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> WHo should I have try it.. it has no installer atm, just manually copy 5 files..
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I cant seem to catch jrib
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> http://pastebin.ca/875359  here was the last output from canoe
[20:23] <jrib> you spelled "kernel" as "kernal" :)
[20:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ops
[20:23] <Pici> better than spelling it colonel
[20:24] <PriceChild> or potatoe
[20:24] <jrib> true...
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Fixed
[20:24] <PriceChild> ompaul, remember that guy yesterday, you were wondering if he was a troll or just clueless?
[20:26] <nalioth> jpatrick: is that your friend who was evading the bans (in #ubuntu-irc now) ?
[20:26] <jpatrick> nalioth: no, I asked him to join so we could explain as a group
[20:26] <Seeker`> PriceChild: EMPs dont have much effect on people
[20:27] <nalioth> jpatrick: is it him?
[20:27] <jpatrick> nalioth: yep
[20:27] <nalioth> jpatrick: he _IS_ evading a kline
[20:27] <PriceChild> Seeker`, no, but it will on the computer you are sat at.
[20:27]  * Seeker` had run away, and was nowhere near the computer
[20:28] <jpatrick> nalioth: is that necessary?
[20:28] <PriceChild> Seeker`, I'm very poor atim.
[20:28] <nalioth> jpatrick: you didn't see the number of clones he was running
[20:28] <nalioth> jpatrick: i'm just giving you info
[20:28] <jpatrick> nalioth: ah, ok
[20:28] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Hah. An I;m also at least an hour away from the computer thats actually connected to freenode
[20:37] <jpatrick> nalioth: however, if you feel a kline is in order, go ahead
[20:37] <nalioth> jpatrick: no, i'm just keeping you informed
[20:38] <nalioth> my spanish isn't really good
[20:38] <jpatrick> hmm, I just tried to explain in -irc and he hits me back
[20:38] <Seeker`> is there anything "worse" than a Kline?
[20:38] <nalioth> Seeker`: a thief stealing your computer?
[20:38] <Seveas> Seeker`, the wrath of nalioth
[20:39] <Pici> s-line, where freenode stabs you in the face through the computer.
[20:39] <Seeker`> oooh
[20:39] <nalioth> awww, Pici, now we're gonna have to kill you  :P
[20:39] <nalioth> lettin' those secret projects out of the bag and all. . . .
[20:41] <jussi01> what happened to the using thscreen light as a laser to blind you project?
[20:42] <nalioth> it burned out too many displays  :(
[20:44] <jpatrick> Seveas: should we have someone @ in #kubuntu too?
[20:44] <Seveas> jpatrick, if you think it's necessary
[20:44] <jpatrick> just in case
[20:44] <Seveas> I just opped mysqlf as chanserv test :)
[20:45] <jpatrick> ah
[20:45] <LjL> why, is chanserv acting up?
[20:45] <nalioth> services won't be leaving any time soon
[20:45] <nalioth> problem was found and resolved
[20:45] <LjL> did i miss some global notice?
[20:45] <LjL> (since my own connection definitely *was* acting up...)
[20:45] <nalioth> LjL: no
[20:50] <jpatrick> LjL: would now be a good time for #k-es? :-)
[20:50] <Pici> linrux = troll imho
[20:50] <jpatrick> mikelinux_ = troll imho
[20:50]  * Pici needs to build a detect-o-troll plugin for the bot
[20:50]  * jussi01 curses all things apple as well as internet connections
[20:52] <jpatrick> no0tic: really, can't we just throw him out?
[20:53] <LjL> Pici: no, that one is mine
[20:53] <Pici> LjL: okay ;)
[20:53] <no0tic> jpatrick, explain him why, I won't
[20:53] <jpatrick> no0tic: and talk to a brick wall?
[21:00] <LjL> by the way seveas, misspelling "myself" as "mysqlf" is worrying.
[21:00] <Seveas> LOL
[21:00] <Seveas> where did you see that?
[21:01] <LjL> [21:44:49] <Seveas> I just opped mysqlf as chanserv test :)
[21:01] <Seveas> heh
[21:01] <Seveas> too many mysql problems in the past weeks
[21:01] <Seveas> it's stuck in my fingers now :)
[21:01] <LjL> jpatrick, could you do one last memoserv/mail attempt for me? i'm really not very comfortable with changing a contact when the contact is still active on IRC...
[21:02] <LjL> Seveas: take it sqlightly
[21:02] <jpatrick> LjL: erm, -MemoServ(MemoServ@services.)- You have no recorded memos
[21:02] <Seveas> @lart LjL
[21:02] <LjL> jpatrick, i'm saying memoserv *to* timido
[21:03] <jpatrick> ah, right
[21:03] <ompaul> sqleveasqleas
[21:03] <ompaul> LjL, ^^ our new op ;-)
[21:04]  * ompaul goes to play Garmin games
[21:06] <LjL> ompaul: the realname being drop table users;? or delete * from users where nickname<>'sqleveasqleas';?
[21:08] <ompaul> LjL, insert into table next_to_be_dropped (select from table users where nick equals sql);
[21:08] <ompaul> LjL, your php can do the rest
[21:09] <ompaul> back in a few
[21:09] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Seveas said: !vista =~ s/operating system/'operating system'/
[21:11] <jpatrick> right....
[21:11] <jussi01> hehe
[21:33] <PriceChild> And so the hunt for a new house begins.
[21:33] <Seveas> PriceChild, you got kicked out?
[21:33] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Next years housing?
[21:34] <PriceChild> Seveas, yeah, I trashed the place with our drunken parties
[21:34] <Seveas> :)
[21:34] <PriceChild> What actually happenned...
[21:34] <PriceChild> Is that 3 of the people fell out with the other 2... and i'm stuck in the middle.
[21:35] <Seeker`> ah, fun
[21:39] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Are you living with any of them next year?
[21:39] <PriceChild> the 2
[21:54] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[21:54] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[21:55] <PriceChild> LjL, the bots missed two forwards?
[21:59] <PriceChild> LjL, accidentally used two spaces between "victim" & "nick" when adding randomly... it added " " to the list of victims and i'm not sure how to remove it :)
[21:59] <jdong> LjL: when in doubt, strip?
[21:59] <jdong> oops... I just read that again.....
[22:00] <PriceChild> jdong, you meant it
[22:00] <PriceChild> and we *all* know it
[22:00] <PriceChild> !jding
[22:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:00] <PriceChild> gah
[22:00] <PriceChild> !jdong
[22:00] <ubotu> <Hobbsee> jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[22:03] <Seveas> !king
[22:03] <ubotu> kong
[22:03] <Seveas> !-jding
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <Seveas> !unforget jding
[22:03] <ubotu> I suddenly remember jding again, Seveas
[22:04] <Seveas> !jding
[22:04] <ubotu> jdong
[22:04] <Seveas> !zing
[22:04] <ubotu> zong
[22:04] <jdong> Seveas: if only they'd have that treatment for my grandparents.... you should go into medicine :)
[22:04] <jdong> actually, !unforget mechanics would be great for me too
[22:16] <PriceChild> <Al2O3> please allow me back into the ubuntu channel, I was a bad boy and thank you for being so kind in kicking me so I learned my lesson
[22:17] <PriceChild> Guilty conscience anyone?
[22:21] <no0tic> 27/01 23:21:20  <mikelinux> so somebody will kill you in the future
[22:24] <nalioth> no0tic: where was that?
[22:25] <no0tic> -irc
[23:09] <Amaranth> jdong: you'll like this: http://sourceforge.net/developer/diary.php?diary_id=26407&diary_user=147583
[23:09] <Amaranth> I don't think you can do that
[23:10] <jdong> Amaranth: hahaha, I'm guessing it doesn't work either :D
[23:10] <PriceChild> Amaranth, erm... wtf?!
[23:10] <jdong> "Oh by the way, I take it back...."
[23:10]  * PriceChild resists the temptation to start up a torrent of them and email him a linky or something
[23:24] <popey> should !ubuntuguide not do something?
[23:27] <PriceChild> !ubuntuguide
[23:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:27] <PriceChild> popey, what do you mean?
[23:30] <popey> generally people recommend not to use ubnutuguide
[23:30] <nalioth> popey: are you channeling?
[23:30] <popey> i figured there might be a standard bot response
[23:30] <popey> am I what?
[23:30] <nalioth> popey: are you 'psychically channeling from the past' ?
[23:30] <popey> I don't _think_ so, why?
[23:31] <popey> i am tired so humour may be lost on me
[23:31] <nalioth> popey: because Ubuntuguide _used_ to be very bad
[23:31] <nalioth> but couple years back, a university got the domain and the info is good now
[23:31] <popey> and now we recommend it?
[23:31] <nalioth> we neither recommend or dissuade
[23:31] <Daviey> 'offically'?
[23:32] <popey> oookay
[23:32] <nalioth> where formerly, !ubuntuguide would get you something similar to !automatix
[23:32] <PriceChild> help.ubuntu then wiki.ubuntu are always the ones we recommend above all else
[23:32] <LjL> PriceChild: eh you can't remove it... it shouldn't hurt too much
[23:32] <popey> !automatix
[23:32] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:32] <PriceChild> LjL, it'll expire some time eh :)
[23:32] <popey> thats a lot nicer than it used to be
[23:32] <Daviey> surely there needs to be a standard stance on something like ubuntuguide.. one way or the other
[23:32] <LjL> PriceChild: yeah, but mode -b !*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic shouldn't do any harm
[23:33] <nalioth> Daviey: ubuntuguide pretty much mirrors the wiki/help  why would we want a stance on it?
[23:33] <tonyyarusso> I've found that the new ubuntuguide is worth mentioning when there doesn't happen to be an article on the wiki yet, but if you find that happening, recommend that the user write up a version for the wiki as well.
[23:35] <LjL> ubuntuguide used to *recommend* automatix.......
[23:36] <LjL> now, i'm sure it doesn't anymore butstill
[23:36] <no0tic> nalioth, mikelinux evaded the kline again
[23:37] <LjL> jtn
[23:38] <nalioth> no0tic: he did?
[23:38]  * nalioth is shocked
[23:38] <nalioth> no0tic: i'll be he didn't bust the ban in -es, though, did he?
[23:38] <nalioth> i'll bet
[23:38] <no0tic> nalioth, /whois mikelinux shows same realname, same user but very different ip
[23:39] <no0tic> nalioth, he's on -es now
[23:39] <nalioth> oh?
[23:39] <nalioth> oh?
[23:39] <nalioth> you know what, no0tic?  your friend is indeed a troll.
[23:40] <no0tic> nalioth, I think he prefers you