2008/01/20/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[01:04] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, ally_xoxo said: ubotu what is shred
[01:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ally_xoxo about bot
[01:08] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu (theAtom)
[01:15] <jussi01> oooh, nalioth got a helper snack :P ROFL...
[01:16] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[01:16] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: January 20 2008, 03:16:27 - Next meeting: Edubuntu meeting in 3 days
[01:16] <jussi01> sigh...
[02:01] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[02:17] <no0tic> can nicks contain '#'?
[02:24] <LjL> no
[02:56] <Thugacation> hey all thugacation here
[02:56] <Thugacation> i'd like to contest some bansa
[02:56] <LjL> Thugacation: i'm listening
[02:57] <Thugacation> #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[02:57] <Thugacation> i was banned for something i dunno what
[02:57] <LjL> Thugacation: how come you just joined both channels?
[02:57] <Thugacation> i dont want those bans on record anymore
[02:58] <LjL> Thugacation: but you were right when you left them after joining.
[02:58] <LjL> you are still banned.
[02:58] <Thugacation> but they expired
[02:59] <LjL> Thugacation, no, they didn't. your ISP changed your hostname.
[02:59] <LjL> bans don't expire.
[02:59] <Thugacation> someone told me they do
[02:59] <Thugacation> why does my ISP change my hostname
[02:59] <LjL> someone was lying
[02:59] <LjL> how would i know. because they think it's a good way to hand out hostnames, i suppose.
[02:59] <Thugacation> so now since my ISP decided i shouldnt be banned anymore
[03:00] <Thugacation> i guess we can put all this behind us
[03:00] <LjL> your ISP isn't an authority about bans in Ubuntu channels.
[03:00] <LjL> i beg to differ.
[03:02] <ardchoille> Thugacation: Entering a channel using a different host after being banned from that channel can be seen as ban evasion.
[03:02] <Thugacation> well not in this case
[03:02] <Thugacation> i dont control when my isp changes hostnames
[03:02] <Thugacation> and i wouldnt have known they did it if LjL didnt tell me
[03:02] <ardchoille> Read that again.. "can be seen.."
[03:02] <ardchoille> And that can complicate matters.
[03:02] <Thugacation> u mad?
[03:03] <LjL> Thugacation, i'm not say you were intending to ban evade, however, what i am saying is that i guarantee you that the ban *is* still in place
[03:03] <ardchoille> Not at all
[03:03] <Thugacation> so when does the ban expire
[03:03] <LjL> i told you, bans don't expire.
[03:03] <LjL> it will be lifted when we decide it should be lifted.
[03:03] <LjL> and, right now, i'll throw this random suggestion - come back in a week
[03:04] <Thugacation> ill be back tomorrow probly before the game starts
[03:04] <Thugacation> later
[03:04] <LjL> i don't think so
[03:08] <LjL> [04:08:13] [Whois] l0000000000l is n=ldnguyen@c-67-168-41-252.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (l0l)
[03:11] <no0tic> lol
[03:18] <no0tic> auto_bleh script now provides multiple banforward with|without private notices. You can find it at no0tic.homelinux.org/~no0tic
[03:20]  * nalioth smells a spammer
[03:20] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:21] <ardchoille> nalioth: How does a spammer smell?
[03:22] <no0tic> nalioth, you told me to inform you about changes :)
[03:28] <danroj> hi
[03:28] <danroj> LjL, hi
[03:28] <danroj> esta=?
[03:29] <LjL> danroj, we saw your message. that channel is legal.
[03:29] <danroj> LjL, no #gnu-rujillo es ilegal?
[03:29] <danroj> LjL, no #gnu-trujillo es ilegal?
[03:30] <danroj> LjL, si es ilegal o no
[03:30] <elkbuntu> hola danroj
[03:31] <LjL> danroj, no es un canal Ubuntu - es una pregunta para los del staff
[03:31] <danroj> entonces se puede?
[03:31] <danroj> LjL, puedo crear un canal asi?
[03:31] <LjL> no, entonces no es una pregunta a que you puedo respondir
[03:31] <nalioth> danroj: this room is only for #ubuntu channels
[03:31] <danroj> LjL, crearon un canal asi
[03:32] <danroj> ese canal no es ilegal?
[03:32] <LjL> danroj, como te dice nalioth, este canal es solamente sobre los canales de Ubuntu.
[03:32] <danroj> ok
[03:32] <danroj> thanks
[03:33] <LjL> jesus christ
[03:41] <elkbuntu> i dont think even he has control here
[03:42] <nalioth>  i have no clue what is going on  :(
[04:16] <Pici> something about the canals of ubuntu.
[04:17] <elkbuntu> Pici, canals = channels
[04:17] <Pici> Yes, I was making a feeble attempt at a joke
[04:36] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, TheAlien said: !aptfix is that a command?
[04:38] <elkbuntu> Pici, i dont get the joke
[04:39] <Pici> elkbuntu: It was pretty dumb.  Not even a joke at best.
[04:40] <nalioth> Pici: so your joke was a joke?
[04:40] <Pici> nalioth: you could say that.
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[09:37] <jussi01> whats our policy on [11:35] < surgy> is it ok to poll this channel if its on subject? in #kubuntu-de4 ?
[09:38] <jussi01> hang on, #kubuntu sorry...
[10:46] <jpatrick> jussi01: should we set +z in -kde4?
[10:48]  * Hobbsee always likes +z
[10:50]  * jussi01 wonders why we would do that atm?
[10:51] <jpatrick> jussi01: in case of floods, let us suffer instead of everyone else
[10:51] <jussi01> done
[10:53] <jussi01> jpatrick: ^
[10:54] <jpatrick> :)
[10:54] <jussi01> I am soo sick of that freaking bot... sigh
[11:06] <Arelis> !metisse
[11:06] <ubotu> Metisse is Mandriva's composite window manager. For more information, see http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse
[11:06] <Arelis> that link is broken
[11:09] <jussi01> doesnt mandriva use compiz-fusion now?
[11:12] <Helvasca> what the...
[11:12] <Helvasca> ok that was wierd...
[11:13] <jussi01> @btlogin
[11:32] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, nickspoon said: !forget me not
[12:20] <jussi01> someone should probabbly keep an eye on #u: [14:14] < aurax> bazhang: what about you join to #ubnutu-stfu-you-fucking-nerd ?
[12:26] <aurax> elkbuntu you idiot :)
[12:26] <jpatrick> again?
[12:26] <Gary> aurax, can you stop this please
[12:27] <aurax> nah
[12:27] <aurax> giving kids op status..
[12:27] <aurax> hehe
[12:28] <PriceChild> aurax, can I help you?
[12:28] <aurax> nah
[12:28] <PriceChild> aurax, is there any reason for your presence here then?
[12:28] <aurax> yep
[12:29] <PriceChild> aurax, could you explain?
[12:29]  * aurax points at elkbuntu
[12:29] <PriceChild> aurax, what about elkbuntu?
[12:29] <aurax> he's being too charming
[12:29] <Hobbsee> pft
[12:30] <PriceChild> elkbuntu, awww you're too charming :)
[12:30] <Seveas> let's see what happens next
[12:30] <Seveas> !staff
[12:30] <ubotu> staff is <sed> s/Dave2/Dave2, Gary/
[12:30] <Seveas> wtf...
[12:30] <elkbuntu> Seveas, once he's out of all that channels i'm in, he'll start pm'ing i bet
[12:30] <PriceChild> Wheras I'm just a racist. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=672946
[12:30] <Seveas> who messed up !staff?
[12:30]  * PriceChild wouldn't dare touch the staff
[12:30] <Gary> me neither
[12:31] <jpatrick> elkbuntu: I've kicked whereever I can
[12:31] <Seveas> mez did
[12:31] <Daviey> !-staff
[12:31] <ubotu> staff aliases: staffers - added by Seveas on 2007-02-04 18:30:28
[12:31] <Gary> anyone want to make a nice pastebin log?
[12:31] <Seveas> !no staff is <reply> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[12:31] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[12:32] <Seveas> @removeeditor Mez
[12:32] <ubotu> OK
[12:32] <Daviey> heh
[12:32] <Daviey> poor Mez
[12:33] <PriceChild> Daviey, don't laugh or you'll be next ;)
[12:33] <PriceChild> Gary, of aurax?
[12:33] <Daviey> I'm not trusted enough as it is PriceChild
[12:33] <elkbuntu> he's in debian too now
[12:33] <Gary> PriceChild, yeah
[12:34]  * jenda waves
[12:34] <PriceChild> gimme a mo
[12:37] <PriceChild> Gary, http://pastebin.ca/VtJAemJ4 is most of it, p/w = aurax
[12:38] <PriceChild> I've probably missed a few channels
[12:39] <PriceChild> missed -es and -motu
[12:39] <Daviey> I reckon we can guess what happend in those.
[12:39] <jpatrick> and -youth
[12:45] <Gary> I've gotta go, made a report to more senior staff of aurax's playtime, will chase it up later this evening
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[13:35]  * Seeker` still doesn't understand how Gary became staff
[13:35] <Tm_T> Seeker`: its all about the money
[13:37] <Seeker`> heh
[13:43] <Daviey> I heard Gary recieved the staff status as part payment for other services :/
[13:43]  * Hobbsee doesn't wnat to know what services were provided...
[13:44] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: or see or any other knowledge
[13:44]  * Daviey suspects Hobbsee already knows, and is hiding behind false innocence :)
[13:44] <Tm_T> trust me on this
[13:45] <Hobbsee> heh
[13:49]  * Seeker` prods pricechild's "p" and "c"
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[13:52] <Seeker`> :D
[13:52] <PriceChild> Thanks.
[13:52] <Seeker`> how be?
[13:53] <PriceChild> hmm?
[13:53] <Seeker`> how are you?
[13:54] <ubotu> coolbhavi called the ops in #ubuntu-in ()
[13:54] <PriceChild> same as ever
[13:55] <PriceChild> I'm already there, was a mistake.
[13:56] <Mez> Seveas, don't see why I should be blamed for that - if the bot didn't pick up the <sed> then how is that my fauly ?
[13:56] <Mez> fault *
[13:57] <Seveas> Mez, you used the wrong syntax
[13:57] <Mez>  I used !x is <sed> s/x/y/
[13:57] <PriceChild> ~=, not sed
[13:57] <ubot3> Factoid not sed not found
[13:58] <Mez> PriceChild, either works, unless one was deprecated?
[13:58] <Mez> and it's =~
[13:58] <PriceChild> meh, I don't pretend to be comfortable using it :)
[13:58] <Mez> !bot
[13:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:58] <Mez> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#head-3418de1c1f674e0c2d94331fc7da75049319fc3c
[13:59] <Mez> oh, ok
[13:59] <Mez> I added in an "s" before the first delimeter.
[13:59] <Mez> but if you're going to use regexps - it should take regexps
[14:01]  * Mez shakes head
[14:06] <elkbuntu> Mez, you should at least have checked it.. that's called being responsible. that way you could have fixed it, or let us know and we could have fixed it before we needed it
[14:14] <jpatrick> elkbuntu: by the way, do you not have +i set?
[14:15] <elkbuntu> jpatrick, no. if losers want to harrass me, they'll go into every ubuntu channel anyway
[14:47] <Mez> elkbuntu, so for one mistake I have editor rights revoked? (one mistake may I add that is the fault of the software - not myself)
[14:47] <elkbuntu> Mez, firstly, i didnt remove you so i'm merely speculating, but the mistake is the lesser part of the problem in my eyes, the bigger part is that you didnt act responsibly by checking it worked
[14:48] <PriceChild> Mez, I think you should take it up with Seveas. He manages the bots.
[14:48] <PriceChild> *bot
[14:49] <Mez> elkbuntu, when I issue a command that the bot should come back to me and tell me regarding issues with it, and it comes back saying "OK" ... then I should check it
[14:49] <Mez> for example
[14:49] <Mez> !staff is The staff shouldnt be here
[14:49] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Mez said: !staff is The staff shouldnt be here
[14:49] <elkbuntu> just because it replaces text, doesnt mean it did it correctly
[14:49] <elkbuntu> i *always* check a command i edit, even if i replace the whole text
[14:49] <Mez> elkbuntu, so it's my job to check that the progeamming is wrong ?
[14:50] <Hobbsee> ie, wrong syntax?
[14:50] <Hobbsee> it's generally a darned good idea to check *any* new thing you put into the bot, particularly if it has a regular expression
[14:50] <Seveas> Mez, you used !no staff is ....
[14:51] <Seveas> which will replace the entire factoid
[14:51] <Mez> and even if I *was* in error I should be spoken to first rather than just penalised
[14:52] <Seveas> I removed access rights since I didn't know if you would be around here before making more of such edits
[14:52] <Seveas> preventive lockout
[14:53] <Mez> and yet you made no effort to contact me, which would have been the sensible thing to do
[14:54] <Seveas> !chanserv.py
[14:54] <ubotu> chanserv.py is http://www.sourceguru.net/files/chanserv.py.txt
[14:55] <Seveas> interesting as well, why doesn't that point to the real location?
[14:55] <ompaul> Seveas, it is a version but not the canonical version I take it
[14:55] <Seveas> no
[14:56] <ompaul> __module_version__     = "1.0.2"
[14:56] <ompaul> is it current?
[14:56]  * ompaul goes to look
[14:56] <Seveas> nope
[14:56] <ompaul> __module_version__     = "1.0.3"
[14:56] <ompaul> that is what I am running
[14:56] <ompaul> who changed that?
[14:56] <ompaul> or created it
[14:56] <ompaul> and which
[14:56] <ompaul> :P
[14:57] <Seveas> obsolete as well :)
[14:57] <ompaul> yeap
[14:57] <ompaul> I concur
[14:57] <ompaul> where did it come from?
[14:58] <Seveas> !no chanserv.py is <reply> http://kaarsemaker.net/software/chanserv/
[14:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[14:58] <ompaul> google says: www.kaarsemaker.net/software/chanserv/ - 134k - Cached - Similar pages
[14:58]  * ompaul pats google on the head
[15:08] <ompaul> Mez, seems to me (and I am not here long today) you broke it - you could have fixed it - they don't owe you anything, if they have to babysit your output, such as telling you when break stuff, you lose their trust. When I do new stuff I call it here so that it can be checked if I really break it someone better than me can fix it or at least carry the message to someone who can. That's my take on it, and a note from IRC survival ompaul (c) 200
[15:08] <ompaul> 8 manual.
[15:09] <Mez> ompaul, one mistake out of ... how many edits ?
[15:10] <ompaul> Mez, I work in an industry where you are only as good as your last job
[15:10] <elkbuntu> Mez, we dont know since you dont check
[15:10] <ompaul> i.e. one error can cost you your ability to continue in that role
[15:11]  * Mez headdesks
[15:11] <ompaul> Mez, leave the desk alone :)
[15:12] <Mez> ompaul, no offence meant, but it's my desk.
[15:12] <Mez> and my head
[15:13] <ompaul> maybe I was trying to be nice to your head - just maybe
[15:14] <LjL> NOTICE - the floodbots will now attempt to get +o if they detect that nobody is opped in the channel. So, if you need to deop them, you will have to stay opped yourself. If they need to *stay* deopped, kickban them.
[15:14] <Mez> The simple fact is that due to one mistake, I have punitive action taken against me, without even being spoken to. Plus, may I add, by someone who I believe stepped down from the council, therefore has no right to take punitive action? If I am wrong correct me - but I beleive that if there is an issue with someone, generally the first step is to talk to them? Even if it was preventitive Seveas, you didn't make any effort to TRY and contact me - and when
[15:14] <Mez> I bought that up completely ignored me.
[15:15] <nalioth> Mez: it's his bot
[15:15] <nalioth> Mez: he can take it home with him and not let it out ot play, if he wants to
[15:15] <elkbuntu> Mez, the bot is on his computer, he has more rights to it than the council does
[15:15] <ompaul> Mez, the bot does not belong to the council they grant it rights to help
[15:16] <elkbuntu> Mez, meanwhile, im really glad there's no trolls or borderline people in here to see an op argue like they do
[15:16] <Seveas> speaking of which, thw bot still needs to go away from my hosting at some point :)
[15:17] <nalioth> Seveas: i would offer, but my hosting company doesn't allow irc bots  :(
[15:17] <Seveas> Mez, and if the council disagrees with the editrights being removed, they have access enough to reinstate it
[15:18] <elkbuntu> nalioth, we're hoping for one of the serverpronto ones canonical still has lying around
[15:18] <Mez> Seveas, which I have offered to host for you before, which I went out of my way to setup my server to accommodate it, only for you to lose interest.
[15:18] <Mez> elkbuntu, I don't believe this is an argument, I believe this is a discussion, however, if you wish, we can move it to another channel ?
[15:19] <elkbuntu> Mez, seveas has stated his reasons and some of us have approved his reasoning.. yet you're arguing against them with a repetitive argument
[15:20] <elkbuntu> Mez, as for the bot server, we dont want it moving from one privately held server to another, we want it somewhere that if we all died tomorrow that it'd be recoverable
[15:21] <Seveas> @list User
[15:21] <ubotu> capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
[15:21] <Seveas> @list admin
[15:21] <ubotu> capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
[15:21] <Seveas> help capability add
[15:22] <Mez> elkbuntu, I'm not arguing the actions. I can understand them. However, the way I've been treated is a different matter. If someone makes a mistake, then someone makes a mistake. At that point, it's usually, I believe, general procedure to talk to them over any issues. If not procedure, then at least politeness
[15:23] <elkbuntu> Mez, seveas was within his rights to protect his asset before anything else. we cant deny him that for your pride
[15:23]  * Mez headdesks.
[15:23] <Mez> You don't seem to be getting the point
[15:24] <Seveas> and given that you so far have only argued to get privileges back instead of even apologizing for the error, I'm not too sure whether I want to reinstate them
[15:24] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i am in agreement with you
[15:24] <LjL> we sound like a bad soap opera.
[15:25] <ompaul> LjL, you reading it out loud?
[15:25] <Mez> Seveas, please quote me where I have argued to have my privileges reinstated?
[15:25] <Seveas> ahem...
[15:25] <elkbuntu> Mez, the past half hour
[15:25] <LjL> ompaul: well, not loud, but yeah you've discovered my little semi-conscious vice
[15:25] <elkbuntu> sorry, 45 minutes
[15:25]  * Seveas stops feeding troll -- sorry Mez I really thought better of you
[15:26] <Mez> I don't believe I've asked once for them to be reinstated. I'm not pissed because of the revocation, I'm pissed because of the fact that noone even bothered to try and talk to me regarding the issue.
[15:27] <elkbuntu> seveas stated his reasons and you've refused to accept them
[15:27] <Mez> <+Seveas> I removed access rights since I didn't know if you would be around here before making more of such edits
[15:27] <Mez> <+Seveas> preventive lockout
[15:27] <Mez> <Mez> and yet you made no effort to contact me, which would have been the sensible thing to do
[15:28] <Mez> I haven't refused to accept them at all. I'm unhappy that the people here find it fine to resolve an issue without even talking to the persons involved
[15:29] <LjL> i thought "duck, if that fails hide, if that fails run" was always our motto
[15:29] <elkbuntu> Mez, your name was mentioned thrice and hence pinged thrice. we needed to mention it a fourth with 'please talk'?
[15:29] <Mez> If I for example, hadn't been online this weekend, had come back, tried to make a change when Seveas wasn't here...
[15:29] <ompaul> your change would be echoed to this channel and most likely executed if found to be sane
[15:29] <elkbuntu> then you still wouldnt have seen our attempts to talk since you wouldnt have been here
[15:30] <Mez> elkbuntu, just because there is a presence of me in this room, doesnt mean I'm active. Infact, I only picked it up on the backlog. Which was "mez did" "@removeditor Mez" "poor Mez"
[15:30] <Mez> I had no clue what the hell was going on and had to go and find out from ubuntulog
[15:31] <elkbuntu> then you come and go 'i shouldnt be blamed'
[15:32] <elkbuntu> that was not a good way to start this conversation.. you immediately set beacons going with that statement
[15:33] <Mez> elkbuntu, indeed I shouldn't be blamed for an issue with the programming of the bot. Not fully anyway. Ok, a mistake was made. but that is all it was, a msitake, and yet here I am being treated without even being given the respect of being spoken to. Can you imagine how annoyed I'd be if i'd only found out a week down the line that this had happened?
[15:34] <elkbuntu> Mez, you were blamed *for being irresponsible and not checking*
[15:35] <Mez> elkbuntu, if the bot responds to a command like that legitimately, then it's a bug in the bot. Do you really expect me to call !staff here? and annoy all of them?
[15:35] <elkbuntu> hello Co_OkE, can we help
[15:36] <elkbuntu> Mez, you could PM the bot, like I do when i edit things that are sensitive
[15:36] <LjL> we all do that
[15:36] <LjL> except seveas
[15:36] <LjL> who likes to spam us in channels
[15:37] <Mez> You know what - forget it. I'm off to watch a movie. I'll email the list later with my thoughts when I've calmed down
[15:37] <Seveas> Mez, what you typed was syntactically correct. This is not a programming error
[15:38] <Seveas> Mez, so yeah watch that movie, read the docs for the bot, apologize and ask the council for your rights if you want them. In that order
[15:39] <Seveas> Mez, and if you have complaints, voice them in here...
[15:40] <ompaul> bugs on launchpad
[15:40] <Mez> Message sent to Seveas: <Mez> I do not appreciate being talked down to, or patronized
[15:40] <Seveas> Mez, and I don't appreciate your troll-like behaviour
[15:40] <Mez> feel free to discuss. I thought it polite to discuss issues with a single comment ion private, rather than pull them into the open
[15:41] <Mez> Seveas, and I'm sure you know that that comment itself is trolling.
[15:41] <ompaul> Co_OkE, is there is something we can do to help
[15:41] <elkbuntu> Mez, no it's not, it's the opinion of several of us
[15:42] <Mez> elkbuntu, then for someone to discuss their opinion regarding their treatment is being a troll?
[15:43] <elkbuntu> Mez, no, the way they go about it is the defining factor
[15:43] <Mez> elkbuntu, we'll discuss this later
[15:43] <elkbuntu> yes, we will
[15:44] <ompaul> enjoy the film
[15:48] <stdin_> <fllszbrnc> irc://irc.p2p-irc.org/gtn < in #kubuntu
[15:49] <LjL> co_oke is the usual 125.164 forwarded guy
[15:49] <LjL> changing nick every time
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[15:49] <Seveas> why not just ban then instead of forward?
[15:50] <LjL> Seveas, i don't know, not my ban, but when we forward i trust there's usually a reason
[15:50] <LjL> i don't think he ever replied here
[15:50] <elkbuntu> LjL, the ip address hasnt changed the whole time, i dont think
[15:51] <elkbuntu> i think we can safely ban them outright
[15:51] <LjL> call me curious though, but i am interested in knowing why on earth he keeps coming in with a different nickname and not replying to us
[15:52] <LjL> Co_OkE: how can we help you?
[15:52] <elkbuntu> LjL, im betting spy bot
[15:52] <LjL> could be but it's not really joining -ops, it's joining #ubuntu and getting redirected, and they should have found out by now
[15:53] <ompaul> hmm
[15:53] <LjL> and i'm pretty sure he/she/it was just made to rejoin manually now
[15:53] <LjL> doesn't reply to version
[15:53] <ompaul> just a moment
[15:53] <LjL> there is another 125.164 online right now
[15:53] <LjL> and it's in #ubuntu
[15:53] <ompaul> %login
[15:54] <ubotu> OK
[15:54] <LjL> it replies to version though
[15:54] <LjL> XChat-GNOME IRC Chat 0.16 Linux 2.6.20-15-386 [i686].
[15:54] <LjL> !info xchat-gnome dapper
[15:54] <ubotu> xchat-gnome (source: xchat-gnome): a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 499 kB, installed size 4280 kB
[15:54] <LjL> !info linux dapper
[15:54] <ubotu> linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.51 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[15:54] <LjL> !info xchat-gnome feisty
[15:54] <ubotu> xchat-gnome (source: xchat-gnome): a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.16-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 784 kB
[15:54] <LjL> !info linux feisty
[15:55] <ubotu> linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[15:55] <LjL> hmmm
[15:56] <stdin> forwarded here for changing nicks in #u
[15:56] <LjL> i smell logging bot
[15:58] <ompaul> I smell a nick changing machine
[15:58] <ompaul> so yes
[15:58] <ompaul> Co_OkE, or whoever you are come back some time when you have a different IP
[15:58] <ompaul> you are now going to be banned
[15:58] <ompaul> from here
[15:58] <ompaul> and #ubuntu
[15:59] <LjL> melin never spoke in #ubuntu, either
[15:59] <ompaul> it is ban forwarded to here
[15:59] <LjL> although he/she/it has been there for quite some time
[15:59] <ompaul> I banned them for nick changing no reason
[15:59] <LjL> he is, but melin is another host
[15:59] <LjL> it merely happens to be the only other 125.164* online
[16:00] <elkbuntu> LjL, what's the other 125.164*? one exactly?
[16:00] <LjL> elkbuntu: yeah, "melin". and my logs say he's been in #ubuntu at least since november, but never spoke
[16:01] <LjL> but as i said, it does reply to VERSION, while this bot does not
[16:01] <elkbuntu> melin's n=  is also interesting
[16:02] <LjL> yep.
[16:03] <ompaul> a hijacked kiosk ?
[16:03] <elkbuntu> ompaul, i'm starting to suspect
[16:03] <LjL> mebbe whonnoes
[16:03] <ompaul> or a kiosk install to hide its real purpose - spies from SuSE ;-)
[16:04] <ompaul> they want to see what a community looks like
[16:04] <elkbuntu> except for the fact that the xchat instance would need to actually be started by someone, and noticable
[16:04]  * ompaul slaps his own wrist, bad ompaul
[16:04] <LjL> elkbuntu: weird that that someone hasn't PM'd me about my VERSION request.
[16:04] <LjL> they usually do
[16:04] <ompaul> LjL, daemonised
[16:08] <elkbuntu> according to apnic, it's indonesian
[16:13] <elkbuntu> anyway, im off to bed. g'nite
[18:27] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 help me add a factoid for fixing sound for Toshiba Sattilite A105-2071 with sound card:ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[18:28] <LjL> Darkmystere, is there a bug filed against that?
[18:29] <Darkmystere> LjL: I dont think so... Let me google second
[18:29] <Darkmystere> in err launchpad right?
[18:29] <LjL> yes
[18:29] <Darkmystere> google is giving me generic links link to site please
[18:30] <LjL> !bugs
[18:30] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[18:30] <kbrooks> um, is anyone watching #ubuntu-offtopic at present
[18:30] <LjL> kinda
[18:31] <LjL> i'll do it the dutch way
[18:31] <kbrooks> ljl: ty
[18:31] <gouki> heheh
[19:22] <jussi01> Darkmystere: is that not one of the !intelhda cards??
[19:23] <Darkmystere> I Think but that didnt really help me
[19:37] <Darkmystere> Could some 1 help me get my splash screen in Ubuntu?
[19:39] <jussi01> @btologin
[19:39] <jussi01> @btlogin
[19:55] <Darkmystere> !flash
[19:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:55] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:05] <Darkmystere> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":2.0".
[20:05] <Darkmystere> err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"SystemRequirementsDialog" returned 1602
[20:25] <jussi01> Pici: ping?
[21:14] <Pici> jussi01: pong?
[21:16] <jussi01> Pici: ahh, you missed him, one of your bans popped in (I beleive)
[21:16] <Pici> jussi01: oh?
[21:17] <jussi01> Pici: Darkmystere I looked it up on bt, a paster from a few weeks ago (it seems)
[21:17] <Pici> Hmm.. I''ll take a look
=== Pricey is now known as PriceChild
[22:08] <Seeker`> jussi01: Pici: He's done that in -uk too. He doesn't seem like he means any harm, just a new user that doesn't really seem to know much about anything
[22:14] <Pici> I see a kick for pasting... but not a ban..
[22:15] <LjL> darkmystere is an idiot
[22:17] <PriceChild> Is that the guy wanting to make his own bot from scratch to help?
[22:18] <LjL> yeah
[22:18] <Pici> ugh, him.
[22:18] <LjL> and asking to become an op, and a couple of other idiotic things
[22:18] <PriceChild> pfft who'd wanna be an op
[22:28] <LjL> sigh
[22:28] <LjL> i asked someone in #ubuntu to pastebin the last 200 lines or so of their syslog
[22:29] <LjL> i asked that 20 minutes ago
[22:29] <LjL> the PMs are still incoming...
[22:41] <ardchoille> LjL: :(
[22:41] <Seveas> LjL, LOL :_)
[22:43] <LjL> [Sun Jan 20 2008] [23:08:03] <zk> Jan 20 23:36:36 ubuntu syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart.
[22:43] <LjL> [Sun Jan 20 2008] [23:32:43] <zk> Jan 20 23:36:42 ubuntu NetworkManage
[23:40] <crdlb> slashix is still recommending envy :/
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> crdlb: which room
[23:42] <crdlb> still in #ubuntu