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[00:25] <ubotu> New bug: #182430 in xorg (main) "hard crash when switching from xorg to VT and back (gutsy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182430
[05:23] <Q-FUNK> bryce: I forwarded you the two patches
[05:41] <bryce> got 'em; I'll take a look next week
[05:42] <bryce> with these two patches in place, will this take care of the issues folks have been having with -amd?
[05:44] <Q-FUNK> bryce: and other drivers with similar bugs.
[05:47] <Q-FUNK> bryce: the main issue is that x86emu was doing nasty things with the BIOS. these two patches plug the issue in two ways: 1. prevent x86emu from even trying to ever access specific ports. 2. fix the way the BIOS was accessed in the first place (it was truncating some values).
[05:49] <bryce> what's the risk of regressions for other users?
[06:09] <Q-FUNK> none, as far as I can tell. it simply prevents X core from doing stupid things.
[06:09] <Q-FUNK> but again, a test package must be built and tested.
[06:10] <Q-FUNK> if this works, it will be needed on all subsequent X core versions until upstream has merged it.
[06:10] <Q-FUNK> bartman on #xorg-devel could tell you more about how he came to those two.
[06:11] <Q-FUNK> it's largely the result of a thread between him and alan cox.
[06:12] <Q-FUNK> it basically, prevents x86emu from doing first things in the first place and lets the exception handler kill X if it still tries to, rather than freeze the whole system.
[06:12] <Q-FUNK> öö.. from doing stupid things
[06:15] <Q-FUNK> bryce: anyhow, bartman pretty much has the last say over which parts of his patch set will make sense in context.
[06:16] <Q-FUNK> what I remember from the thread (I am just reading the backlog, as I'm coming home), is that he's at least fixed X enough to turn freezes into simple segfaults that can be caught by the exception handler.
[06:17] <Q-FUNK> for the specific -amd issue, he reports in another post that he finally gets something on his display, after fixing x86emu.
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #35794 in xserver-xorg-video-trident "TV out is broken with VT1621 chip" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35794
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #47614 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xserver-xorg does not automatically set supported options for ati (slow desktop/gui)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47614
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #182547 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Failure to load nvidia kernel module into 2.6.22-14-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182547
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #182309 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[fglrx] no Visual Effects on a Radeon Xpress 1150 (Dell inspiron 1501)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182309
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #182594 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati (main) "[radeon] no Visual Effects on a Radeon Xpress 1150 (Dell inspiron 1501, hardy alpha 3)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182594
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #26090 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "updated fglrx driver breaks dual-head setup" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26090
[19:18] <bryce> heya Q-FUNK
[19:20] <Q-FUNK> hey! :)
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #182691 in xorg (main) "X doesn't write settings in xorg.conf when booting Xubuntu live CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182691
[21:02] <Q-FUNK> bryce: anything new?
[21:12] <ubotu> New bug: #182252 in x11-xserver-utils (main) "xhost +localhost does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182252
[21:37] <bryce> Q-FUNK: the usual, you?
[21:38] <Q-FUNK> bryce: wondering if Bart's patches will be merged in.
[21:38] <bryce> yeah I'll take a look monday
[21:40] <Q-FUNK> I just asked the Debian X list.
[21:40] <Q-FUNK> if they accept his two x86emu patches and merge to both the 1.3 in Testing and the 1.4 in Unstable, it might make your job easier.
[21:40] <bryce> yup, that'd be nice
[21:41] <Q-FUNK> I'm a bit more worried about the lack of reaction on the upstream X list, though.
[21:41] <bryce> I don't foresee any issue accepting it, just need to package it and make sure it builds, and so on
[21:42] <Q-FUNK> is there a big amount of Ubuntu delta left with the Debian packages?
[21:42] <tjaalton> 13 patches
[21:42] <tjaalton> oh, 15
[21:43] <Q-FUNK> wow
[21:43] <Q-FUNK> that's a lot
[21:43] <Q-FUNK> any of it that could be integrated by Debian?
[21:43] <tjaalton> we can drop the DPI patch after next revision
[21:43] <tjaalton> perhaps
[21:44] <Q-FUNK> jcristau: ? :)
[21:56] <tjaalton> gravity promised to take a look at them when he has time for it :)
[22:21] <Q-FUNK> aye. I just saw bgoglin's reply too.
[22:21] <Q-FUNK> looks good
[23:53] <jcristau> Q-FUNK: i'd rather see it upstream first...
[23:54] <jcristau> and i don't want to keep maintaining 1.3, but it should be fine for 1.4
[23:59] <Q-FUNK> well, for as long as 1.4 isn't in a releasable state, we really need that backported to 1.3 too