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| [14:01] <danilos> you? | |
| [14:01] <jtv> me? | |
| [14:01] <barry> mii | |
| [14:01] <ddaa> self | |
| [14:02] <bac> yo | |
| [14:02] <sinzui> I | |
| [14:02] <SteveA> Who is chairing today's meeting? | |
| [14:02] <danilos> kiko or someone he delegates :) | |
| [14:02] <danilos> that's what the MeetingAgenda says | |
| [14:02] <SteveA> who has kiko delegated? | |
| [14:03] <SteveA> BjornT_: would you run today's meeting? | |
| [14:03] <danilos> apparently, nobody | |
| [14:04] <BjornT_> SteveA: sure, i'll do it | |
| [14:04] <SteveA> thanks | |
| [14:04] <BjornT_> so, roll call. who's here? | |
| [14:04] <jtv> me | |
| [14:04] <mrevell> me | |
| [14:04] <SteveA> me | |
| [14:04] <matsubara> me | |
| [14:04] <flacoste> me | |
| [14:04] <mpt> me | |
| [14:04] <schwuk> me | |
| [14:04] <bac> me | |
| [14:04] <statik> me | |
| [14:04] <jamesh> me | |
| [14:04] <barry> me | |
| [14:04] <adeuring> me | |
| [14:04] <ddaa> me | |
| [14:05] <stub> me | |
| [14:05] <sinzui> me | |
| [14:05] <intellectronica> me | |
| [14:05] <salgado> me | |
| [14:05] <mthaddon> me | |
| [14:05] <allenap> me | |
| [14:06] <danilos> me | |
| [14:07] <gmb> me. | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> == Agenda == | |
| [14:07] <gmb> Sorry. | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Roll call | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Agenda | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Next meeting | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Actions from last meeting | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Oops report (Matsubara) | |
| [14:07] <leonardr> me | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Bug tags | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * Operations report (mthaddon) | |
| [14:07] <BjornT_> * DBA report (stub) | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> ---- | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> * Test plans ownership (flacoste) | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> * Add your bug feed to your website (mrevell) | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> ---- | |
| [14:08] <BjornT_> * Blockers | |
| [14:09] <BjornT_> who will not be here for the meeting next week? | |
| [14:09] <BjornT_> ok. so next meeting will be as usual, 17th jan, 1400 UTC | |
| [14:09] <BjornT_> * Actions from last meeting | |
| [14:10] <BjornT_> there were no actions from the last meeting | |
| [14:10] <BjornT_> * Oops report (Matsubara) | |
| [14:10] <matsubara> Today's oops report is about bugs 181772, 181770 | |
| [14:10] <ubotu> Bug 181772 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/181772 is private | |
| [14:10] <matsubara> bigjools: can you take181772? | |
| [14:11] <matsubara> I've chatted with flacoste about #181770 already and assigned to him | |
| [14:11] <matsubara> bigjools: ? | |
| [14:13] <bigjools> hi | |
| [14:13] <matsubara> am I lagged? | |
| [14:13] <SteveA> bug 181770 | |
| [14:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 181770 in launchpad "Oops deleting a package link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181770 | |
| [14:14] <bigjools> matsubara: I can take that | |
| [14:14] <SteveA> matsubara: I don't think you are lagged | |
| [14:14] <ddaa> I'd be happy to take that | |
| [14:14] <matsubara> thanks bigjools | |
| [14:14] <matsubara> ddaa: please coordinate with flacoste about it. thanks for volunteering | |
| [14:14] <flacoste> ddaa: if you mean 181770, yes, I think it's a fallout from your branch | |
| [14:14] <ddaa> flacoste: indeed | |
| [14:15] <BjornT_> ok, let's move on. there has been an amendment to the agenda. SteveA has an item now. | |
| [14:15] <matsubara> BjornT_: I'm done with oops reports. I'll move on to Joey's critical bugs | |
| [14:15] <BjornT_> * launchpad-security team (SteveA) | |
| [14:15] <matsubara> BjornT_: ok, go on | |
| [14:15] <matsubara> SteveA: stage is yours :-) | |
| [14:16] <SteveA> thanks | |
| [14:16] <carlos> sorry, I forgot the meeting completely... | |
| [14:16] <SteveA> right now, we have the launchpad-security team | |
| [14:16] <SteveA> and it is automatically subscribed to bugs that are marked as related to security | |
| [14:17] <SteveA> the problem with that is that we often need to have private bugs for launchpad that are not related to security | |
| [14:17] <SteveA> so, there's a lot of noise for members of launchpad-security | |
| [14:17] <SteveA> both in bugs that that team is subscribed to | |
| [14:18] <SteveA> and in new bugs being temporarily subscribed to, and then unsubscribed | |
| [14:18] <SteveA> I'm going to work around this by creating a new team: launchpad-security-autosubscribed | |
| [14:18] <mpt> SteveA, currently "Launchpad Developers" is a member of "Launchpad Security" | |
| [14:19] <SteveA> that will have launchpad developers as a member, and will be the security contact for launchpad projects | |
| [14:19] <SteveA> we'll need to manually subscribe the "real" launchpad-security team to bugs that are really security issues | |
| [14:19] <mpt> so "members of launchpad-security" means "all the developers" | |
| [14:19] <SteveA> we have some outside help on launchpad-security, including james troup and kees cook | |
| [14:19] <mpt> yes | |
| [14:19] <barry> SteveA: doesn't it (perhaps also) make sense to have a separate checkbox for "this is a private (not security) bug" or somesuch? currently the workflow for private-not-security bugs is a pita | |
| [14:19] <cprov> me (sorry) | |
| [14:20] <SteveA> barry: yes, I've separately proposed better support for projects like launchpad | |
| [14:20] <SteveA> barry: that will take a while to get done | |
| [14:20] <barry> SteveA: cool, thanks | |
| [14:20] <SteveA> barry: it's with the lpcomm team | |
| [14:20] <SteveA> so, I'll be doing this change today | |
| [14:20] <SteveA> any questions? | |
| [14:20] <SteveA> 4 | |
| [14:21] <SteveA> 3 | |
| [14:21] <SteveA> 2 | |
| [14:21] <SteveA> 1 | |
| [14:21] <SteveA> thank you | |
| [14:21] <BjornT_> ok, thanks | |
| [14:21] <BjornT_> * Critical Bugs (matsubara) | |
| [14:21] <EdwinGrubbs> me, sorry I'm late | |
| [14:21] <matsubara> We have two critical bugs not yet started: bug 181766 and bug 181771. | |
| [14:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 181766 in launchpad "fix mailing list message headers and footers" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181766 | |
| [14:21] <ubotu> Bug 181771 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/181771 is private | |
| [14:21] <matsubara> barry, do you have a status report about them? | |
| [14:22] <flacoste> why are those critical? | |
| [14:22] <barry> matsubara: i just reported them about 10 minutes ago :) | |
| [14:22] <barry> flacoste: sorry, they shouldn't have been critical, but high | |
| [14:22] * barry will fix | |
| [14:22] <matsubara> barry: all right | |
| [14:23] <matsubara> so, no critical bugs atm | |
| [14:23] <matsubara> BjornT_: I'm done here. | |
| [14:23] <barry> fixed | |
| [14:23] <BjornT_> * Bug tags | |
| [14:23] <BjornT_> no new tags have been proposed | |
| [14:23] <BjornT_> * Operations report (mthaddon) | |
| [14:23] <mthaddon> Staging update script in progress | |
| [14:23] <mthaddon> Staging supermirror rewritemap script now in place | |
| [14:23] <mthaddon> Staging mailman complete (I believe?) | |
| [14:23] <mthaddon> Scheduled downtime tomorrow to enable BBWC and for a PostgreSQL security update | |
| [14:23] <mthaddon> Any final comments on the paramiko/bzr upgrade tests before we roll those out to all LP servers? | |
| [14:23] <mthaddon> That's it from me unless there are any questions | |
| [14:23] <barry> mthaddon: YES! thanks so much | |
| [14:24] <mthaddon> cool | |
| [14:24] <barry> mthaddon: we may want to run a few more tests (including a full rebuild) once my branch that flacoste is reviewing lands | |
| [14:24] <mthaddon> barry, absolutely - just let me know when | |
| [14:24] <barry> mthaddon: great, thanks | |
| [14:25] <BjornT_> ok, moving on | |
| [14:25] <BjornT_> * DBA report (stub) | |
| [14:25] <stub> DB patch review call happened today with Mark. A couple of patches will | |
| [14:25] <stub> get name changes. Two are rejected (bugs forwarded upstream, | |
| [14:25] <stub> and bugs fixed elsewhere/upstream). I'll be doing the formal reviews tomorrow. | |
| [14:25] <stub> Nothing else happening. | |
| [14:25] <BjornT_> any questions for stub? | |
| [14:25] <BjornT_> 4 | |
| [14:25] <BjornT_> 3 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 2 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 1 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> anyone have any outstanding rt requests rinchen should know about? | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 5 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 4 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 3 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 2 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> 1 | |
| [14:26] <BjornT_> * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | |
| [14:27] <mrevell> Howdy | |
| [14:27] <mrevell> Hello. Today's user-affecting issue is related to bug 60915. | |
| [14:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 60915 in usplash "usplash messes up colors on console" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60915 | |
| [14:27] <mrevell> At present, non-authenticated users see an obfuscated version of email addresses in bug comments. | |
| [14:27] <mrevell> However, email addresses in bug comments are still displayed to logged-in users. | |
| [14:27] <mrevell> This has caused a complaint from someone who has reported a bug to Cocinella project. The bug reporter felt that as they had chosen to hide their email address in Launchpad it should not appear in bug comments at all. | |
| [14:28] <danilos> mrevell: is it really 60915? | |
| [14:28] <mrevell> danilos: Thank you, no, not that one. Sorry. | |
| [14:28] <SteveA> I see one email address there | |
| [14:28] <mrevell> bug 60195 | |
| [14:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 60195 in launchpad-answers "May need to obfuscate email addresses in comments" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60195 | |
| [14:28] <SteveA> at the domain paul.sladen.org | |
| [14:28] <SteveA> is that the email address being objected to? | |
| [14:28] <mrevell> The bug that caused the complaint is: bug 180132 | |
| [14:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180132 in coccinella "Login settings are not saved" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180132 | |
| [14:29] <mrevell> comments 1 and 3 include the email address and comment 11 is where the reporter asked for removal | |
| [14:29] <SteveA> what's bug 60915 then? | |
| [14:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 60915 in usplash "usplash messes up colors on console" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60915 | |
| [14:29] <mrevell> SteveA: A typo on my part. Sorry. | |
| [14:29] <BjornT_> mrevell: could you file a bug or send a mail to the list about this? we won't be able to come up with a solution in this meeting. | |
| [14:29] <mrevell> BjornT_: Thank you. I shall file a bug. | |
| [14:29] <BjornT_> thanks | |
| [14:30] <carlos> SteveA: do we parse and hide email addresses included in bug comment text ? | |
| [14:30] <BjornT_> * Test plans ownership (flacoste) | |
| [14:30] <SteveA> carlos: yes, but only for non-loggedin-users | |
| [14:30] <carlos> SteveA: because that other bug has an email address because someone added it manually | |
| [14:30] <carlos> I see, ok | |
| [14:30] <bigjools> the same obfuscation takes place in package changelogs | |
| [14:30] <flacoste> hmm, ok, i think i remember what this was about | |
| [14:31] <flacoste> i want to know on which team test plan a bug or blueprint should appear | |
| [14:31] <flacoste> is it on the team's responsible for the functional area | |
| [14:31] <flacoste> or the team of the person who will test the bug | |
| [14:31] <SteveA> mrevell: please make sure the person who complained and the person who inadvertantly posted their mail address knows that we care. | |
| [14:31] <mrevell> SteveA: I shall. | |
| [14:31] <BjornT_> flacoste: that sounds like a question better suited for the list, doesn't it? | |
| [14:32] <flacoste> BjornT_: probably | |
| [14:32] <flacoste> i'll email the list about it | |
| [14:32] <flacoste> i think there was some other issue, but can't recall (i posted that item nearly one month ago) | |
| [14:32] <BjornT_> flacoste: cool. i'm curious about the answer myself :) | |
| [14:32] <BjornT_> * Add your bug feed to your website (mrevell) | |
| [14:33] <mrevell> I've placed my bug feed on my home page at http://www.understated.co.uk/ | |
| [14:33] <mrevell> It'd be great to see other people do something similar on their website, so that we can demonstrate the feeds feature we introduced with 1.1.12. | |
| [14:33] <mrevell> It's very easy to do using MagpieRSS, Wordpress and tools such as http://wigitize.com/ | |
| [14:33] <mrevell> I've posted a quick Wordpress how to at: | |
| [14:33] <mrevell> http://www.understated.co.uk/2008/launchpad-bug-feeds-in-wordpress/ | |
| [14:34] <mrevell> I'm keen to see how people are using their feeds, so please post links to the launchpad-users list if you go ahead. | |
| [14:34] <mrevell> Thanks, back to BjornT_ | |
| [14:34] <BjornT_> thanks mrevell | |
| [14:34] <BjornT_> * Blockers | |
| [14:34] <mrevell> Releases: not blocked | |
| [14:34] <BjornT_> Bugs: not blocked | |
| [14:34] <jtv> Translations team: Not blocked | |
| [14:34] <flacoste> Foundations: not blocked | |
| [14:34] <SteveA> SC: not blocked | |
| [14:34] <schwuk> HWDB: not blocked | |
| [14:35] <ddaa> Code: dunno, just came back from vacation and have not synced up yet. Presumably not blocked. | |
| [14:35] <statik> lpcomm: not blocked | |
| [14:35] <bigjools> Soyuz Team: not blocked | |
| [14:36] <BjornT_> ok, that should be everyone. thanks for coming! | |
| [14:36] <BjornT_> MEETING ENDED | |
| [14:36] <schwuk> Thanks BjornT_ | |
| [14:36] <statik> thanks for running the meeting BjornT_ | |
| [14:36] <matsubara> Thanks BjornT_ | |
| [14:36] <SteveA> thank you BjornT_. very smooth. | |
| [14:36] <mrevell> thanks all | |
| [14:37] <barry> thanks BjornT_ | |
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